Doppelgangsters - Game Over - Town Wins

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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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This is nonsense
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:24 pm Okay where’s Sloonei
That's a good question :srsnod:
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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trying to soul read if alison is on a mafia team with slooneiprime based on exactly that one post
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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I also don't like the idea of a role that requires you to know real IDs because it seems like a haven for OGI stuff but that's an aside and that sort of thing is at least common in games like this. Play the game not the host and all that, but Tutuu seems opposed to something like that.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:39 pm I also don't like the idea of a role that requires you to know real IDs because it seems like a haven for OGI stuff but that's an aside and that sort of thing is at least common in games like this. Play the game not the host and all that, but Tutuu seems opposed to something like that.
I don't think that is what it is, they said perfect reads that means alignment
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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I want to retaliate that my role sucks for town unless I get a RP bonus, so everyone please suck more than me in RP today so I have a chance of winning. Thanks.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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nutella's AtE with :i knew this was going to happen" "should never have subbed in" is NAI according to Alison, but I'm no longer RPing as Alison...
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?
I'm not trying to solve that way. I had an idea on Paprika and Maid, but it was inevitable because Paprika went out of character.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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nutellaphant wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 pm akemi apparently scumreading her own mason is apparently a thing despite the fact they are on my wagon together right now
possibly a distancing move and they are w/w but if they are then I'm not getting there today

I don't know why quokka is voting me
I don't know why my shell is voting me after townreading me yesterday. is it because of the "1 wolf in nutella/my shell" thing yesterday or did something happen overnight because I recall them townreading me and I townread them back?
where's Epignosis when you need him
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:36 pm trying to soul read if alison is on a mafia team with slooneiprime based on exactly that one post
Damn. Now you spoiled me. How sure are you?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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When you say Alison, do you mean me or do you mean The Real Alison, who I think is [redacted]?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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My Shell wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 pm I believe her survival increases her chance of being wolf
Can you expound on this one?

I was rb last night, so you being blocked doesn't jive
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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PonySparkPrime wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:59 pm
nutellaphant wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 pm akemi apparently scumreading her own mason is apparently a thing despite the fact they are on my wagon together right now
possibly a distancing move and they are w/w but if they are then I'm not getting there today

I don't know why quokka is voting me
I don't know why my shell is voting me after townreading me yesterday. is it because of the "1 wolf in nutella/my shell" thing yesterday or did something happen overnight because I recall them townreading me and I townread them back?
where's Epignosis when you need him
You filled the slot well.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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PonySparkPrime wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:01 pm
My Shell wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 pm I believe her survival increases her chance of being wolf
Can you expound on this one?

I was rb last night, so you being blocked doesn't jive
I do not know then, I did not get specific notification of a block so if you did maybe she was saved a different way.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Town blocker / Mafia blocker?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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If a town doc protected her I am perplexed honestly, why

unless she is actually able to save herself but self targeting is probably not allowed by OP

So my next thought is she has ability to survive death automatically
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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PonySparkPrime wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:59 pm
nutellaphant wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:53 pm akemi apparently scumreading her own mason is apparently a thing despite the fact they are on my wagon together right now
possibly a distancing move and they are w/w but if they are then I'm not getting there today

I don't know why quokka is voting me
I don't know why my shell is voting me after townreading me yesterday. is it because of the "1 wolf in nutella/my shell" thing yesterday or did something happen overnight because I recall them townreading me and I townread them back?
where's Epignosis when you need him
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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something's very wrong
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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that's unironically the best tsp rp all game and it makes me think that whoever's being tsp should stop trying to be tsp and start trying to solve the game
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:01 pm When you say Alison, do you mean me or do you mean The Real Alison, who I think is [redacted]?
you alison but I'm getting a little worried about The Real Alison too
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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My Shell wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:05 pm So my next thought is she has ability to survive death automatically
find this extremely 100% unlikely without winning a bonus.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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It would be great to know who you guys are talking about but we should be voting my shell here anyways trust me I will CARRY YOU
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
This is all wrong, I was taking about actual reads.
Like Wilgy is town, never rescinding for eg.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?
If you think the playerslist has any inexperienced townie, please let me know who you are talking about.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:00 pm It would be great to know who you guys are talking about but we should be voting my shell here anyways trust me I will CARRY YOU
Why is MyShell scum and what do you think about Akemi and Nutphant?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Maid wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:34 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?
If you think the playerslist has any inexperienced townie, please let me know who you are talking about.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:45 pm
Maid wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:34 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:37 pm
Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:33 pm
1337 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:00 am
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 am 1312 where did you get the idea that Made claimed Vigilante from? I searched the thread for "vigilante" because of what Michelle said but the only mentions I could find of Vigilante are from her.
He sifted it extremelly hard and I commented on it at the time he said something like "I have a really good role that my reads to be perfect for" etc
worth going back to this. my personal read was something that would require him to know true id's.
Feel like at this point you could know personal IDs if you really wanted to, but seems like a weird luck based role that idk if I would believe. Regardless I kind of get the impression maid is somewhat inexperienced and potentially just inexperienced town, no idea who is who behind the rp though, just the impression I get from their play this game?
If you think the playerslist has any inexperienced townie, please let me know who you are talking about.
You lmao
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Akemi Homura wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:30 pm after Martin won best roleplay, did he disappear?
Yes.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 pm I am the towniest person in this game and all suggestions to the contrary will be met by a fist
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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[VOTE: nutellaphant] aubergine
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Hello?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Akemi has seemed town this day phase for me, her claim of an anti-town role that gets a boost if you win the roleplay award is believable to me based on what I know. Despite not understanding 1312's reads I trust him because of the miller claim and the fact that he was fishing for the vig and thought it was Made doesn't seem scummy. My Shell has claimed vig and that claim I believe will selve resolve sooner or later.

That leaves the POE to me (excluding nutella who I am voting) as PonyStarkPrime, Martin and Fuskdall. And between those, Fuskdall seems the towniest, followed by Martin and then PSP. If nutella flips town somehow we will have to re-evaluate everything but for now this is how I see the game.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Made is the odd one out in this list, their claim is not fully trustworthy but I think I know who they are and their behavior has been a towntell for them if so. If they are who I think they are, then they are usually an easy read for me, which is why I'm putting them above the POE and below the people with role claims.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:25 pm Akemi has seemed town this day phase for me, her claim of an anti-town role that gets a boost if you win the roleplay award is believable to me based on what I know. Despite not understanding 1312's reads I trust him because of the miller claim and the fact that he was fishing for the vig and thought it was Made doesn't seem scummy. My Shell has claimed vig and that claim I believe will selve resolve sooner or later.

That leaves the POE to me (excluding nutella who I am voting) as PonyStarkPrime, Martin and Fuskdall. And between those, Fuskdall seems the towniest, followed by Martin and then PSP. If nutella flips town somehow we will have to re-evaluate everything but for now this is how I see the game.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:25 pm Akemi has seemed town this day phase for me, her claim of an anti-town role that gets a boost if you win the roleplay award is believable to me based on what I know. Despite not understanding 1312's reads I trust him because of the miller claim and the fact that he was fishing for the vig and thought it was Made doesn't seem scummy. My Shell has claimed vig and that claim I believe will selve resolve sooner or later.

That leaves the POE to me (excluding nutella who I am voting) as PonyStarkPrime, Martin and Fuskdall. And between those, Fuskdall seems the towniest, followed by Martin and then PSP. If nutella flips town somehow we will have to re-evaluate everything but for now this is how I see the game.
Mafia have fake claims
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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I think I’ve archetyped Maid as town, sorta within a few camps. They /might/ be my second highest town
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:25 pm Akemi has seemed town this day phase for me, her claim of an anti-town role that gets a boost if you win the roleplay award is believable to me based on what I know. Despite not understanding 1312's reads I trust him because of the miller claim and the fact that he was fishing for the vig and thought it was Made doesn't seem scummy. My Shell has claimed vig and that claim I believe will selve resolve sooner or later.

That leaves the POE to me (excluding nutella who I am voting) as PonyStarkPrime, Martin and Fuskdall. And between those, Fuskdall seems the towniest, followed by Martin and then PSP. If nutella flips town somehow we will have to re-evaluate everything but for now this is how I see the game.
Mafia have fake claims
Oh, that's true. Then claims have to be sorted based on how provable they are, in which case My Shell's claim would be the towniest since it's provable and would make no sense for mafia to make even as a fakeclaim. Despite not having a trustable claim Akemi at least seems to be putting some thought into the solves and isn't just pushing agenda needlessly. Right now I am working based off a nutellaphant = scum world and Akemi doesn't make sense as wolf with My Shell. Followed by 1312 for taking an approach to the vigilante that looks like a townslip to me.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:16 pm that's unironically the best tsp rp all game and it makes me think that whoever's being tsp should stop trying to be tsp and start trying to solve the game
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Quokka wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:24 am
Fuskdall wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm
Quokka wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:25 pm Akemi has seemed town this day phase for me, her claim of an anti-town role that gets a boost if you win the roleplay award is believable to me based on what I know. Despite not understanding 1312's reads I trust him because of the miller claim and the fact that he was fishing for the vig and thought it was Made doesn't seem scummy. My Shell has claimed vig and that claim I believe will selve resolve sooner or later.

That leaves the POE to me (excluding nutella who I am voting) as PonyStarkPrime, Martin and Fuskdall. And between those, Fuskdall seems the towniest, followed by Martin and then PSP. If nutella flips town somehow we will have to re-evaluate everything but for now this is how I see the game.
Mafia have fake claims
Oh, that's true. Then claims have to be sorted based on how provable they are, in which case My Shell's claim would be the towniest since it's provable and would make no sense for mafia to make even as a fakeclaim. Despite not having a trustable claim Akemi at least seems to be putting some thought into the solves and isn't just pushing agenda needlessly. Right now I am working based off a nutellaphant = scum world and Akemi doesn't make sense as wolf with My Shell. Followed by 1312 for taking an approach to the vigilante that looks like a townslip to me.
it's provable until it's not, and currently it looks like it's not. But I'm taking michelle as town at least until further notice.
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@Duskfall I'm taking this avatar with me when we're done with this game
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Day 1
Boringboi [5]: My Shell, Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo
nutellaphant [5]: Fuskdall, MartinWP69, NurseWilgy, Boringboi, Akemi Homura
dodo [1]: 1337
My Shell [1]: Paprika
NurseWilgy [1]: nutellaphant

Day 2
Paprika [4]: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphent
nutellaphant [4]: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Fuskdall, Quokka
Akemi Homura [2]: Maid, PonySparkPrime
My Shell [1]: Paprika

Voted for nutellaphant twice:
Fuskdall, Martin, Akemi Homura

Voted for nutellaphent once:
Quokka, NurseWilgy, Boringboi

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant twice:
My Shell

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant once:
Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo, NurseWilgy, 1337, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons once:
1337, Maid, PonySparkPrime, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons both times:
Paprika
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:03 am Day 1
Boringboi [5]: My Shell, Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo
nutellaphant [5]: Fuskdall, MartinWP69, NurseWilgy, Boringboi, Akemi Homura
dodo [1]: 1337
My Shell [1]: Paprika
NurseWilgy [1]: nutellaphant

Day 2
Paprika [4]: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphent
nutellaphant [4]: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Fuskdall, Quokka
Akemi Homura [2]: Maid, PonySparkPrime
My Shell [1]: Paprika

Voted for nutellaphant twice:
Fuskdall, Martin, Akemi Homura

Voted for nutellaphent once:
Quokka, NurseWilgy, Boringboi

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant twice:
My Shell

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant once:
Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo, NurseWilgy, 1337, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons once:
1337, Maid, PonySparkPrime, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons both times:
Paprika
Has not voted for nutellaphant (living players):
1337, Maid, My Shell, [nutellaphant], PonySparkPrime
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Quokka wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:11 pm This four wagon formation bothers me, I don't have confidence today is a hit either due to that. Between the four I would rather nutellaphant because of yesterday and the fact that their entrance was unreadable. I don't understand why they are suspecting Martin either.

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Maid wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:06 pm
Akemi Homura wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:44 pm
nutellaphant wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:43 pm nothing paprika has done today has really swayed me on them either, but I didn't manage to read the last few pages in-depth.
Paprika's eod was fine.

One of you or My Shell was saved yesterday, if you're town, find scum in My Shell.
Is this what I think it is? Because if it is I want to wolf read this mindset.
Maid wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:07 pm [VOTE: Akemi] aubergine
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 1

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Akemi Homura wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:36 pm I can't guess who's behind Paprika unless it's exactly DrWilgy. Sorry to be antifun.

I can vote My Shell or nutella today. Maybe dodo.

I just realized I scumread the ladies lol
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nutellaphant wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:19 am i'd solve more today if i had more time. did I forget about 1337 or whatever the numbers are? i scumread them still.
Why?
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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Boring.
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Re: Doppelgangsters - Day 3

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MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:15 am
MartinWP69 wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:03 am Day 1
Boringboi [5]: My Shell, Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo
nutellaphant [5]: Fuskdall, MartinWP69, NurseWilgy, Boringboi, Akemi Homura
dodo [1]: 1337
My Shell [1]: Paprika
NurseWilgy [1]: nutellaphant

Day 2
Paprika [4]: NurseWilgy, 1337, My Shell, nutellaphent
nutellaphant [4]: Akemi Homura, MartinWP69, Fuskdall, Quokka
Akemi Homura [2]: Maid, PonySparkPrime
My Shell [1]: Paprika

Voted for nutellaphant twice:
Fuskdall, Martin, Akemi Homura

Voted for nutellaphent once:
Quokka, NurseWilgy, Boringboi

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant twice:
My Shell

Voted main counterwagon to nutellaphant once:
Quokka, PonySparkPrime, Maid, dodo, NurseWilgy, 1337, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons once:
1337, Maid, PonySparkPrime, nutellaphant

Voted away from two main wagons both times:
Paprika
Has not voted for nutellaphant (living players):
1337, Maid, My Shell, [nutellaphant], PonySparkPrime
Don't lie, is bad luck, I voted for Nutphant but I went for my first scum read.
You are talking like you know Nutphant is mafia and I wamt to know why.
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