Downton Abbey Mafia (ENDGAME)

[LoRab]

^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

I want to be kind, but this post makes me suspect you more. The suspicion of you isn't from no where; you've been mentioned for days.

And during the last lynch, when you made a similar post, everyone stepped back from you. I wonder if you aren't trying to use the same philosophy and seeing if it works a second time.

linkitis: MM, Ika, or Scotty. Because they are the 3 I suspect most. MM's posts haven't made me feel any better about him since they started making me feel suspious of him last round. Ika, see above. And Scotty I've been suspish of for a while. Claiming to have a non-power role in a game where there is no such thing doesn't help my feelings on him.

Well at least you've narrowed it down to 3/4 people.

Assuming my assumptions are correct on my civ reads, then only 1 of those 3 people is civ. So, yeah.

[Scotty]

^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

I want to be kind, but this post makes me suspect you more. The suspicion of you isn't from no where; you've been mentioned for days.

And during the last lynch, when you made a similar post, everyone stepped back from you. I wonder if you aren't trying to use the same philosophy and seeing if it works a second time.

linkitis: MM, Ika, or Scotty. Because they are the 3 I suspect most. MM's posts haven't made me feel any better about him since they started making me feel suspious of him last round. Ika, see above. And Scotty I've been suspish of for a while. Claiming to have a non-power role in a game where there is no such thing doesn't help my feelings on him.

Well at least you've narrowed it down to 3/4 people.

Assuming my assumptions are correct on my civ reads, then only 1 of those 3 people is civ. So, yeah.

Cool. Then vote with me for MM. You know you wanna

[Epignosis]

^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

I want to be kind, but this post makes me suspect you more. The suspicion of you isn't from no where; you've been mentioned for days.

And during the last lynch, when you made a similar post, everyone stepped back from you. I wonder if you aren't trying to use the same philosophy and seeing if it works a second time.

linkitis: MM, Ika, or Scotty. Because they are the 3 I suspect most. MM's posts haven't made me feel any better about him since they started making me feel suspious of him last round. Ika, see above. And Scotty I've been suspish of for a while. Claiming to have a non-power role in a game where there is no such thing doesn't help my feelings on him.

When ika and I were bad, we flipped out on each other in BTSC. I don't recall him having a meltdown in the thread. The biggest point against him is the Silverwolf kill, but in the last game, he tried to pin it on a teammate. ika hasn't tried to bus anybody so far (i.e., his accusations have all been civilian, if you count me).

[Epignosis]

We need all hands on deck. If you are a civilian at this point, do not waste your vote, and if you have a role ability, use it according to your best guess.

[Epignosis]

We need all hands on deck. If you are a civilian at this point, do not waste your vote, and if you have a role ability, use it according to your best guess.

That means please don't self-vote or not vote, and please don't PM the host saying, "I don't want to use my ability tonight." Use it. All hands on deck.

[Scotty]

^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

I want to be kind, but this post makes me suspect you more. The suspicion of you isn't from no where; you've been mentioned for days.

And during the last lynch, when you made a similar post, everyone stepped back from you. I wonder if you aren't trying to use the same philosophy and seeing if it works a second time.

linkitis: MM, Ika, or Scotty. Because they are the 3 I suspect most. MM's posts haven't made me feel any better about him since they started making me feel suspious of him last round. Ika, see above. And Scotty I've been suspish of for a while. Claiming to have a non-power role in a game where there is no such thing doesn't help my feelings on him.

When ika and I were bad, we flipped out on each other in BTSC. I don't recall him having a meltdown in the thread. The biggest point against him is the Silverwolf kill, but in the last game, he tried to pin it on a teammate. ika hasn't tried to bus anybody so far (i.e., his accusations have all been civilian, if you count me).

This makes sense. I just wish he were more involved.

We need all hands on deck. If you are a civilian at this point, do not waste your vote, and if you have a role ability, use it according to your best guess.

That means please don't self-vote or not vote, and please don't PM the host saying, "I don't want to use my ability tonight." Use it. All hands on deck.

Uh...ok. Nothing changes for me.

[Epignosis]

I think MetalMarsh89 is the best choice for a lynch right now. I'll explain why later.

[Epignosis]

I think MetalMarsh89 is the best choice for a lynch right now. I'll explain why later.

In the meantime, discuss.

[Scotty]

I think MetalMarsh89 is the best choice for a lynch right now. I'll explain why later.

In the meantime, discuss.

I personally believe that gun control should be a topic of concern in this year's election cycle.

[LoRab]

^^ THIS. Ika, you are making it very difficult to believe that you are a Confused Civvie.

THEN FUCKIGN VOTE ME TOMMORW THE FACT EVERYONE FUCKINS SUSPECTS ME MAGICALY NOW IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. LITYL EVERYONE SOMEHOW WENT FROM IM TOW TO SCM IN A MATTER OF WHAT? HRS? MINUITES? ONE GOD DAMN POST?

EVERYOEN IS CALLING ME SCUM SO THEREFORE I MUST BE CONFIRMED SCUM. LETS FUCKING VOTE ME TOMMORW AND SEE WHERE THAT LANDS US OK?

I want to be kind, but this post makes me suspect you more. The suspicion of you isn't from no where; you've been mentioned for days.

And during the last lynch, when you made a similar post, everyone stepped back from you. I wonder if you aren't trying to use the same philosophy and seeing if it works a second time.

linkitis: MM, Ika, or Scotty. Because they are the 3 I suspect most. MM's posts haven't made me feel any better about him since they started making me feel suspious of him last round. Ika, see above. And Scotty I've been suspish of for a while. Claiming to have a non-power role in a game where there is no such thing doesn't help my feelings on him.

Well at least you've narrowed it down to 3/4 people.

Assuming my assumptions are correct on my civ reads, then only 1 of those 3 people is civ. So, yeah.

Cool. Then vote with me for MM. You know you wanna

I'm leaning in that direction at the moment.

[Epignosis]

Ugh. Why is this lynch so hard??

Right now I am leaning civ for Ika, LoRab and probably Matt.

That leaves me Scotty and MM.

Scotty, why not just vote for MM? Unless you are protecting him....

You know, I will vote for Mm. I have a hunch, plus he was my first gut read as scum in this game.

Vote MM

Well that's convenient isn't it?

This isn't the worst thing that could happen today, but it's certainly not the best either.

What would be the worst thing that could happen?

I'll let you know if it happens.

Speak.

[Epignosis]

ika, are you bad?

[Epignosis]

I found some required reading I either forgot about or never noticed before.

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... it=cleared

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

Any ideas on night one yet?

I'm not even sure who all is playing lol

I think LC is pretty dangerous and good at reading people.

Clapping Epi on the back with an axe would not be a bad idea. He's pretty much playing up Sawyer as much as possible and can be a pain in our neck down the road.

[Epignosis]

ika, are you bad?

Let's rephrase this question: If you're not bad, and I'm not bad, who is bad?

[Long Con]

From LOST AGAIN

Any ideas on night one yet?

I'm not even sure who all is playing lol

I think LC is pretty dangerous and good at reading people.

Clapping Epi on the back with an axe would not be a bad idea. He's pretty much playing up Sawyer as much as possible and can be a pain in our neck down the road.

Hey, cool Scotty! Thanks for that vote of confidence, I'd say I AM dangerous, but absolutely crappy at reading people.

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

Got a question for you all.
Maybe not now, but in like 2-3 nights time (the night after we kill Sorsha, which we definitely should do on night 4) if I haven't been lynched by then, and Matt is still alive, or Bullz is slipping (hypothetical), how devious would it be for me to lie about being a civ blocker. Only we know that the civs will be out of power roles. If we don't put a kill in, and I come out saying that I blocked Matt/Bullz....game set and match. No one will want to kill me until I don't die 2 nights in a row after that and they catch on to my lie?

Hmm, I'll keep thinking on it. It's really late and I just feel anxious all the time.

Is there a Mafia help line??

You know what you are, Scotty? You're a schemer.

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

Well Matt, it is done. I have voted you with much chagrin.

@Golden did we find out if we can continue to post in here after death? Because I do value Matt's voice and would hate to lose him!

Scotty will vote a teammate if it comes down to it, but he doesn't like to do it.

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

Hahahaha love you guys.

So here's where I think I may have saved myself today:

Epi still hasn't voted or commented. I put up a case for nutella, Epi's main suspicion. Wilgy then votes for Epi, even though he will could be the deciding vote. It might end in a tie. WHO KNOWS? THE MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR NEVER ENDS. NEXT TIME, ON LOST (again)!

After Typh, I think we need to kill Epi and SVS. They're the most likely to pick me out as bad, IMO. Everyone else I can handle.

SVS should go first I think before Epi. He's at least not as solid-looking civ.

Even if I do go today, Bullz, you are strong man! Chin up! Mr. Friendly doesn't die in the show, does he?

Strategy.

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

Jeez. Typh is literally the town version of Hitler. I -really- wish he had died N1. And since Sorsha is gone, and we didn't take advantage of that blocker claim (it would be bad timing anyway) he's all but cleared as good. Now people will take what he says as gospel.

Scotty demonstrates a concern for strategy again.

[Epignosis]

...

Dagnabbit.

Ah well. Typh has been very spot on with his suspicions this game.
I have to agree with Bullz that he should die. Literally no one is suspecting him or can suspect him. Except Wilgy right now for some reason. But Wilgy is not looking hot right now so who's going to listen to him?

Yeah, Typh is the best option here.

And again.

[Epignosis]

From LOST AGAIN

While I do think that zebra is the only person bringing suspicion on zebra, I'm not so sure she's going I have much traction. Throwing your name around could just look like a desperation distraction move on her part and see what sticks. Plus having a little suspicion is not bad.

I was thinking maybe an Epi lynch. SVS is the easy one, but I think Epi's suspect list is better for us. Guess it depends on who gets lynched today.

He plans for my lynch.

[Epignosis]

...

That long winded Epi ISO post is like Ben Brantley rating your performance as outstanding on the opening night of your Broadway debut.

He's clearing you as civ.

Now if SVS comes back with some high falootin theory abou your badness, it might be a good idea to keep her around because of her penchant to suspect you. I don't know what concrete evidence she can come back with that counteract Epi's brilliant ISO on you. With a steady stream of suspicion coming from SVS it will give you more cred for the Mafia not killing you. the question is will anyone buy it?


Let me think about this.

He plans to keep me around because I defended Bullzeye (his teammate).

[Epignosis]

...

Alright, so Epi hasn't responded to SVS yet, but he did just post and it looks like he's still eyeing nutella.

That's good right now!

Something we need to figure out assuming SVS doesn't get Bullz lynched today...

Do we kill SVS or not?

I'm not sure which looks better, tbh. I'm leaning on letting her live.

She might even question her own instincts if we let her live.

I was thinking about that, as I said earlier. But I do think killing her is our best option:

If we kill Epi, who is our current knight in shining armor, Wilgy and SVS- who have current doubts (even though Wilgy hasn't voted Bullz yet)- could just lynch Bullz and we will prolly lose. Plus to the lay observer, mafia killing one of the 2 most non-civ players throughout the game is a glaringly obvious strategy that these guys might pick up on.

If we kill SVS, then at least Wilgy can continue being a Doubting Dennis, and we still have a chance with Epi clearing us. It could look like framing being done for Bullz, and I think we would still have a chance to make it out.

Or. Epi could just wise up after his main target, nutella, is found to be civ, and vote Bullz.

Scotty is okay with keeping me around because I defended Bullzeye.

[Epignosis]

If I were Mafia, I would have killed you by now.

How's that for WIFOM.

Also I think I have an idea of what Dom is now that he mentioned it. I remember him indirectly hinting at it, so I think I will leave him.

Ika and llama are on my list, and I've never brought up ika before since he's had my back, but of course he would know that I'm civ if he were bad.
That he's voting for llama isn't a great sign, but I feel stronger that llama is bad based on his voting this game.

Bullshit.

[Scotty]

[Marmot]

Ugh. Why is this lynch so hard??

Right now I am leaning civ for Ika, LoRab and probably Matt.

That leaves me Scotty and MM.

Scotty, why not just vote for MM? Unless you are protecting him....

You know, I will vote for Mm. I have a hunch, plus he was my first gut read as scum in this game.

Vote MM

Well that's convenient isn't it?

This isn't the worst thing that could happen today, but it's certainly not the best either.

What would be the worst thing that could happen?

I'll let you know if it happens.

Speak.

It didn't happen.

That would be you being lynched . I think that would have been the worst outcome.

[Marmot]

Oh my, look at that poorly placed period.

[Dom]

Scotty u bad m8?

[Scotty]

Scotty u bad m8?

No. And furthermore Epi combing through my scum chat in LOST is absolutely useless and WIFOM. Yes I'm tactful and strategize when I'm bad. What should I do- just vote and talk willy nilly and hope I get through the game? No, there's manipulation to be had.

I will once again state that I don't have BTSC this game.

I'm curious about the jump from where Epi said 'we should vote MM because unexplained reasons' to 'Scott is capable of strategy'. Still waiting on why you think we should vote MM. I know why I'm voting mm

[Epignosis]

Ugh. Why is this lynch so hard??

Right now I am leaning civ for Ika, LoRab and probably Matt.

That leaves me Scotty and MM.

Scotty, why not just vote for MM? Unless you are protecting him....

You know, I will vote for Mm. I have a hunch, plus he was my first gut read as scum in this game.

Vote MM

Well that's convenient isn't it?

This isn't the worst thing that could happen today, but it's certainly not the best either.

What would be the worst thing that could happen?

I'll let you know if it happens.

Speak.

It didn't happen.

That would be you being lynched . I think that would have been the worst outcome.

That isn't how I interpreted this. I interpreted this as an indication that the lynch would be stopped. If you were Joseph Molesley, however, you would not have a reason to fear being blackmailed, as a lynch survival is not a Night action. That could mean you were Dr. Clarkson, able to stop the lynch, and that retaining possession of your night action was paramount, since you would want to bring back Black Rock and not Sorsha.

That would be the worst thing that could happen.

To add to it, you asked this:

Epignosis, do you think the Doctor is still alive? The role not the player.

If you are Clarkson, you can stop this lynch. If you are not Clarkson then you are naughty and must be punished.

That's why I think you are the safest lynch.

[Epignosis]

ika, what's your opinion of Scotty and MM? Which do you think is bad, if either?

[Scotty]

Scotty u bad m8?

Lol I totally forgot I was replying to a dead person.

Rip Dom if I haven't mentioned that already.

[Scotty]

Scotty u bad m8?

Lol I totally forgot I was replying to a dead person.

Rip Dom if I haven't mentioned that already.

also speaking of seeing dead people, I saw sixth sense with my gf last night (it was her first time seeing it ) and the ending was already spoiled for her and then when the twist actually happened she goes "oh my god! I had no idea that was gonna happen!" Followed by "I thought Bruce Willis was [spoiler]gonna be Haley Joel Osment all grown up![/spoiler]
After more deduction, I learned she was spoiled, albeit abstractly, about the Usual Suspects. (the spoiler is like...sorta a spoiler for usual suspects if you haven't seen it. Though not really, so whatever.)

[Marmot]

I'll be around this evening to chat, as well tomorrow morning. How about the rest of y'all?

[Dom]

I missed the night post and thought I was alive and waiting for the post

[Polo]

I'll be around this evening to chat, as well tomorrow morning. How about the rest of y'all?

I plan on continuing to rot here. It's not that bad, though; I've already lost 10 or so pounds.

[Matt]

Just wanted to post to add to the deadie party. Woot!

[Marmot]

Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

[LoRab]

Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

[Marmot]

Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

The problem with this is that it would require I am mafia.

Why do you think I'm bad?

[LoRab]

Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

The problem with this is that it would require I am mafia.

Why do you think I'm bad?

Because of your posts, because reasons I've said, because reasons other have said, because of the baddie role you were given in your initial host pm.

[LoRab]

Voted MM.

I don't want to forget to vote later in the day. I should be around most of the day, at least on and off.

[Marmot]

Yo LoRab, let's say Wilgy checked both of us and neither of us had BTSC.

Let's also say that one of the three people Wilgy checked had BTSC and they were civ with BTSC.

How would that make you feel about your current voting suspicions, if this were true?

That's the main point that makes me hesitant about you. MM's posts this past RL day have made me feel worse about him and my vote may go in that direction.

It's these kinds of posts that make me think "She's bad."

What specifically about MM's posts this past day made you feel worse? What did he say? Why?

Just vaguely nodding and going, "He made me feel worse" makes me feel worse about you.

Sorry, I had about 5 minutes to be able to post and didn't have time to elaborate.

In short, it's partly tone and partly that he's gone back and forth on everyone, seemingly hopping onto whatever name comes up at a given moment. His accusations and posts read as disingenuous to me.

Alright Lorab, this is a post you made about me yesterday, and the first accusation I could find from you against me all game.

I have not been hopping onto whatever name comes up, seemingly or otherwise. I do try to make a meaningful vote on a daily basis... usually.

Why do you think it's bad to "jump on lynch trains"? I know lynching a civilians isn't a good thing, and it doesn't look great when a player does it, but in my opinion, it looks worse to not have any part in lynches, regardless of who is lynched. Constantly placing your vote elsewhere is worse because that means you are avoiding getting your hands dirty. This is a common mafia strategy, and Sorsha is a perfect example of this.

Looking back, the day that you were supposed to be lynched, Sorsha didn't vote on either of the bandwagons, but voted for Long Con.

[LoRab]

Yo LoRab, let's say Wilgy checked both of us and neither of us had BTSC.

Let's also say that one of the three people Wilgy checked had BTSC and they were civ with BTSC.

How would that make you feel about your current voting suspicions, if this were true?

That's the main point that makes me hesitant about you. MM's posts this past RL day have made me feel worse about him and my vote may go in that direction.

It's these kinds of posts that make me think "She's bad."

What specifically about MM's posts this past day made you feel worse? What did he say? Why?

Just vaguely nodding and going, "He made me feel worse" makes me feel worse about you.

Sorry, I had about 5 minutes to be able to post and didn't have time to elaborate.

In short, it's partly tone and partly that he's gone back and forth on everyone, seemingly hopping onto whatever name comes up at a given moment. His accusations and posts read as disingenuous to me.

Alright Lorab, this is a post you made about me yesterday, and the first accusation I could find from you against me all game.

I have not been hopping onto whatever name comes up, seemingly or otherwise. I do try to make a meaningful vote on a daily basis... usually.

Why do you think it's bad to "jump on lynch trains"? I know lynching a civilians isn't a good thing, and it doesn't look great when a player does it, but in my opinion, it looks worse to not have any part in lynches, regardless of who is lynched. Constantly placing your vote elsewhere is worse because that means you are avoiding getting your hands dirty. This is a common mafia strategy, and Sorsha is a perfect example of this.

Looking back, the day that you were supposed to be lynched, Sorsha didn't vote on either of the bandwagons, but voted for Long Con.

I was talking more about your posts than your votes. In my reading, you latch onto the suspicion of the day--and then vote wherever. And yes, I find that suspicious. You can explain how different players play all you want--I do understand the game, thanks--but different people use different methods.

Interesting how you turn my suspicion around onto what mafia strategy actually is (because, you know, mafia never uses bandwagons to hide), and then point out that sorsha didn't vote on a bandwagon in the lynch in which I wasn't lynched. Really nice way to take suspicion and try to make it not be about you at all.

Nice switcheroo.

[Marmot]

Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

[LoRab]

Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

So you're voting yourself?

But seriously, if you truly aren't mafia, then who do you think the remaining baddies are?

[Marmot]

Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

So you're voting yourself?

But seriously, if you truly aren't mafia, then who do you think the remaining baddies are?

I believe it is Scotty and ika, and you after that.

In my mind, Epignosis cannot be mafia, and Illy is likely not mafia.


As I mentioned about ika before, he's been done nothing the past few days except vote for Epignosis, himself, and on the day Sorsha was lynched: Illy the counterwagon.

Then there is Scotty. He claimed to not be a power role when the only vanilla role was lynched Day 2. His contributions have been defenses of himself, and a request to lynch me. He hasn't posted in over 24 hours. With his own neck not being on the line, he is coasting too much today. So is ika. Scotty was more active at the beginning of the day when he had votes.



I changed my mind, I'm voting ika. I'm not putting up with this plan of voting the "safe" option because it's bullsuit.

[Marmot]

Ah, but I see that Scotty said somewhere else he has 2 shows today, so that could explain the inactivity somewhat.

Still, he did make such a post somewhere else and not here.

[LoRab]

Ah, but I see that Scotty said somewhere else he has 2 shows today, so that could explain the inactivity somewhat.

Still, he did make such a post somewhere else and not here.

Scotty and ika have both posted elsewhere. Hrm.