The Syndicate

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Scotty wrote:Dagnabbit.

Ah well. Typh has been very spot on with his suspicions this game.
I have to agree with Bullz that he should die. Literally no one is suspecting him or can suspect him. Except Wilgy right now for some reason. But Wilgy is not looking hot right now so who's going to listen to him?

Yeah, Typh is the best option here.

And again.

From LOST AGAIN

Scotty wrote:While I do think that zebra is the only person bringing suspicion on zebra, I'm not so sure she's going I have much traction. Throwing your name around could just look like a desperation distraction move on her part and see what sticks. Plus having a little suspicion is not bad.

I was thinking maybe an Epi lynch. SVS is the easy one, but I think Epi's suspect list is better for us. Guess it depends on who gets lynched today.

He plans for my lynch.

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Scotty wrote:That long winded Epi ISO post is like Ben Brantley rating your performance as outstanding on the opening night of your Broadway debut.

He's clearing you as civ.

Now if SVS comes back with some high falootin theory abou your badness, it might be a good idea to keep her around because of her penchant to suspect you. I don't know what concrete evidence she can come back with that counteract Epi's brilliant ISO on you. With a steady stream of suspicion coming from SVS it will give you more cred for the Mafia not killing you. the question is will anyone buy it?


Let me think about this.

He plans to keep me around because I defended Bullzeye (his teammate).

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Scotty wrote:

Matt wrote:Alright, so Epi hasn't responded to SVS yet, but he did just post and it looks like he's still eyeing nutella.

That's good right now!

Something we need to figure out assuming SVS doesn't get Bullz lynched today...

Do we kill SVS or not?

I'm not sure which looks better, tbh. I'm leaning on letting her live.

She might even question her own instincts if we let her live.

I was thinking about that, as I said earlier. But I do think killing her is our best option:

If we kill Epi, who is our current knight in shining armor, Wilgy and SVS- who have current doubts (even though Wilgy hasn't voted Bullz yet)- could just lynch Bullz and we will prolly lose. Plus to the lay observer, mafia killing one of the 2 most non-civ players throughout the game is a glaringly obvious strategy that these guys might pick up on.

If we kill SVS, then at least Wilgy can continue being a Doubting Dennis, and we still have a chance with Epi clearing us. It could look like framing being done for Bullz, and I think we would still have a chance to make it out.

Or. Epi could just wise up after his main target, nutella, is found to be civ, and vote Bullz.

Scotty is okay with keeping me around because I defended Bullzeye.

Scotty wrote:If I were Mafia, I would have killed you by now.

How's that for WIFOM.

Also I think I have an idea of what Dom is now that he mentioned it. I remember him indirectly hinting at it, so I think I will leave him.

Ika and llama are on my list, and I've never brought up ika before since he's had my back, but of course he would know that I'm civ if he were bad.
That he's voting for llama isn't a great sign, but I feel stronger that llama is bad based on his voting this game.

Bullshit.

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Illyria wrote:Ugh. Why is this lynch so hard??

Right now I am leaning civ for Ika, LoRab and probably Matt.

That leaves me Scotty and MM.

Scotty, why not just vote for MM? Unless you are protecting him....

You know, I will vote for Mm. I have a hunch, plus he was my first gut read as scum in this game.

Vote MM

Well that's convenient isn't it?

This isn't the worst thing that could happen today, but it's certainly not the best either.

What would be the worst thing that could happen?

I'll let you know if it happens.

Speak.

It didn't happen.

That would be you being lynched . I think that would have been the worst outcome.

Oh my, look at that poorly placed period.

Dom wrote:Scotty u bad m8?

No. And furthermore Epi combing through my scum chat in LOST is absolutely useless and WIFOM. Yes I'm tactful and strategize when I'm bad. What should I do- just vote and talk willy nilly and hope I get through the game? No, there's manipulation to be had.

I will once again state that I don't have BTSC this game.

I'm curious about the jump from where Epi said 'we should vote MM because unexplained reasons' to 'Scott is capable of strategy'. Still waiting on why you think we should vote MM. I know why I'm voting mm

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Illyria wrote:Ugh. Why is this lynch so hard??

Right now I am leaning civ for Ika, LoRab and probably Matt.

That leaves me Scotty and MM.

Scotty, why not just vote for MM? Unless you are protecting him....

You know, I will vote for Mm. I have a hunch, plus he was my first gut read as scum in this game.

Vote MM

Well that's convenient isn't it?

This isn't the worst thing that could happen today, but it's certainly not the best either.

What would be the worst thing that could happen?

I'll let you know if it happens.

Speak.

It didn't happen.

That would be you being lynched . I think that would have been the worst outcome.

That isn't how I interpreted this. I interpreted this as an indication that the lynch would be stopped. If you were Joseph Molesley, however, you would not have a reason to fear being blackmailed, as a lynch survival is not a Night action. That could mean you were Dr. Clarkson, able to stop the lynch, and that retaining possession of your night action was paramount, since you would want to bring back Black Rock and not Sorsha.

That would be the worst thing that could happen.

To add to it, you asked this:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, do you think the Doctor is still alive? The role not the player.

If you are Clarkson, you can stop this lynch. If you are not Clarkson then you are naughty and must be punished.

That's why I think you are the safest lynch.

ika, what's your opinion of Scotty and MM? Which do you think is bad, if either?

Dom wrote:Scotty u bad m8?

Lol I totally forgot I was replying to a dead person.

Rip Dom if I haven't mentioned that already.

Scotty wrote:

Dom wrote:Scotty u bad m8?

Lol I totally forgot I was replying to a dead person.

Rip Dom if I haven't mentioned that already.

also speaking of seeing dead people, I saw sixth sense with my gf last night (it was her first time seeing it ) and the ending was already spoiled for her and then when the twist actually happened she goes "oh my god! I had no idea that was gonna happen!" Followed by "I thought Bruce Willis was [spoiler]gonna be Haley Joel Osment all grown up![/spoiler]
After more deduction, I learned she was spoiled, albeit abstractly, about the Usual Suspects. (the spoiler is like...sorta a spoiler for usual suspects if you haven't seen it. Though not really, so whatever.)

I'll be around this evening to chat, as well tomorrow morning. How about the rest of y'all?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'll be around this evening to chat, as well tomorrow morning. How about the rest of y'all?

I plan on continuing to rot here. It's not that bad, though; I've already lost 10 or so pounds.

Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

The problem with this is that it would require I am mafia.

Why do you think I'm bad?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

The problem with this is that it would require I am mafia.

Why do you think I'm bad?

Because of your posts, because reasons I've said, because reasons other have said, because of the baddie role you were given in your initial host pm.

Voted MM.

I don't want to forget to vote later in the day. I should be around most of the day, at least on and off.

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yo LoRab, let's say Wilgy checked both of us and neither of us had BTSC.

Let's also say that one of the three people Wilgy checked had BTSC and they were civ with BTSC.

How would that make you feel about your current voting suspicions, if this were true?

That's the main point that makes me hesitant about you. MM's posts this past RL day have made me feel worse about him and my vote may go in that direction.

It's these kinds of posts that make me think "She's bad."

What specifically about MM's posts this past day made you feel worse? What did he say? Why?

Just vaguely nodding and going, "He made me feel worse" makes me feel worse about you.

Sorry, I had about 5 minutes to be able to post and didn't have time to elaborate.

In short, it's partly tone and partly that he's gone back and forth on everyone, seemingly hopping onto whatever name comes up at a given moment. His accusations and posts read as disingenuous to me.

Alright Lorab, this is a post you made about me yesterday, and the first accusation I could find from you against me all game.

I have not been hopping onto whatever name comes up, seemingly or otherwise. I do try to make a meaningful vote on a daily basis... usually.

Why do you think it's bad to "jump on lynch trains"? I know lynching a civilians isn't a good thing, and it doesn't look great when a player does it, but in my opinion, it looks worse to not have any part in lynches, regardless of who is lynched. Constantly placing your vote elsewhere is worse because that means you are avoiding getting your hands dirty. This is a common mafia strategy, and Sorsha is a perfect example of this.

Looking back, the day that you were supposed to be lynched, Sorsha didn't vote on either of the bandwagons, but voted for Long Con.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Scotty wrote:Yo LoRab, let's say Wilgy checked both of us and neither of us had BTSC.

Let's also say that one of the three people Wilgy checked had BTSC and they were civ with BTSC.

How would that make you feel about your current voting suspicions, if this were true?

That's the main point that makes me hesitant about you. MM's posts this past RL day have made me feel worse about him and my vote may go in that direction.

It's these kinds of posts that make me think "She's bad."

What specifically about MM's posts this past day made you feel worse? What did he say? Why?

Just vaguely nodding and going, "He made me feel worse" makes me feel worse about you.

Sorry, I had about 5 minutes to be able to post and didn't have time to elaborate.

In short, it's partly tone and partly that he's gone back and forth on everyone, seemingly hopping onto whatever name comes up at a given moment. His accusations and posts read as disingenuous to me.

Alright Lorab, this is a post you made about me yesterday, and the first accusation I could find from you against me all game.

I have not been hopping onto whatever name comes up, seemingly or otherwise. I do try to make a meaningful vote on a daily basis... usually.

Why do you think it's bad to "jump on lynch trains"? I know lynching a civilians isn't a good thing, and it doesn't look great when a player does it, but in my opinion, it looks worse to not have any part in lynches, regardless of who is lynched. Constantly placing your vote elsewhere is worse because that means you are avoiding getting your hands dirty. This is a common mafia strategy, and Sorsha is a perfect example of this.

Looking back, the day that you were supposed to be lynched, Sorsha didn't vote on either of the bandwagons, but voted for Long Con.

I was talking more about your posts than your votes. In my reading, you latch onto the suspicion of the day--and then vote wherever. And yes, I find that suspicious. You can explain how different players play all you want--I do understand the game, thanks--but different people use different methods.

Interesting how you turn my suspicion around onto what mafia strategy actually is (because, you know, mafia never uses bandwagons to hide), and then point out that sorsha didn't vote on a bandwagon in the lynch in which I wasn't lynched. Really nice way to take suspicion and try to make it not be about you at all.

Nice switcheroo.

Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

So you're voting yourself?

But seriously, if you truly aren't mafia, then who do you think the remaining baddies are?

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Oh well, might as well get this over with.

I would prefer lynching one of the two mafia roles, because going into the night phase with both of them still alive is not a "safe" option in my opnion.

So you're voting yourself?

But seriously, if you truly aren't mafia, then who do you think the remaining baddies are?

I believe it is Scotty and ika, and you after that.

In my mind, Epignosis cannot be mafia, and Illy is likely not mafia.


As I mentioned about ika before, he's been done nothing the past few days except vote for Epignosis, himself, and on the day Sorsha was lynched: Illy the counterwagon.

Then there is Scotty. He claimed to not be a power role when the only vanilla role was lynched Day 2. His contributions have been defenses of himself, and a request to lynch me. He hasn't posted in over 24 hours. With his own neck not being on the line, he is coasting too much today. So is ika. Scotty was more active at the beginning of the day when he had votes.



I changed my mind, I'm voting ika. I'm not putting up with this plan of voting the "safe" option because it's bullsuit.

Ah, but I see that Scotty said somewhere else he has 2 shows today, so that could explain the inactivity somewhat.

Still, he did make such a post somewhere else and not here.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ah, but I see that Scotty said somewhere else he has 2 shows today, so that could explain the inactivity somewhat.

Still, he did make such a post somewhere else and not here.

Scotty and ika have both posted elsewhere. Hrm.

I'm about to head out the door, and might not be back until after the deadline. See y'all then.

Hey ika: care to explain why you moved your vote and why you moved it to illy?

And now switching to me, without a post, and for no explained reason.

I think Ika just earned my vote.

Either decide not to be involved, but then actually don't play. It's not ok to use your vote and then not actually post about it or your reasons. Not to mention defending.

*votes Ika*

LoRab wrote:And now switching to me, without a post, and for no explained reason.

I think Ika just earned my vote.

Either decide not to be involved, but then actually don't play. It's not ok to use your vote and then not actually post about it or your reasons. Not to mention defending.

*votes Ika*

I don't think that's wise. He's being cheeky. He did the same thing to me. Please go back to MM.

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:And now switching to me, without a post, and for no explained reason.

I think Ika just earned my vote.

Either decide not to be involved, but then actually don't play. It's not ok to use your vote and then not actually post about it or your reasons. Not to mention defending.

*votes Ika*

I don't think that's wise. He's being cheeky. He did the same thing to me. Please go back to MM.

Because I trust you, I will. Even if I don't think my vote will make a difference in either direction.

That said, I don't trust Ika. Why hasn't he posted, but changed his vote multiple times?

LoRab wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

LoRab wrote:And now switching to me, without a post, and for no explained reason.

I think Ika just earned my vote.

Either decide not to be involved, but then actually don't play. It's not ok to use your vote and then not actually post about it or your reasons. Not to mention defending.

*votes Ika*

I don't think that's wise. He's being cheeky. He did the same thing to me. Please go back to MM.

Because I trust you, I will. Even if I don't think my vote will make a difference in either direction.

That said, I don't trust Ika. Why hasn't he posted, but changed his vote multiple times?

Well, his vote is on MM now.

I think he's having a bit of fun is all.

I think MM pretended to be blackmailed in order to get me lynched. I can't see any reason for him to vote me if he were blackmailed at this point unless he were Mrs. Patmore (who could be dead) or Dr. Clarkson (who almost certainly is). I think he tried to pull a fast one.

I want Mrs. Patmore (or ghost Mrs. Patmore, whichever is the case) to roast up some marmot tonight.

And then he moved back to me.

And still hasn't posted.

He can't be silenced, because he voted....so I just don't get it.

LoRab wrote:And then he moved back to me.

And still hasn't posted.

He can't be silenced, because he voted....so I just don't get it.

I wouldn't worry too much about it.

Polo wrote:I'm anxious.

It's going to be a bit, I can tell you.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

LoRab wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Hi deadies.

I see that no living player came by. Probably for the better, because my 1 hour climbing session turned into 4 hours, and I'm home later than anticipated and exhausted.

So, in your exhaustion, do you want to tell us all how you're bad?

The problem with this is that it would require I am mafia.

Why do you think I'm bad?

That was it?

Whoa! Totally unexpected. Good job!

I'm having heart palpitations. I must take a dose of salts.

Civilians
Upstairs
Robert Crawley - DFaraday
Cora Crawley - thellama73
Violet, Dowager Countess - birdwithteeth11
Lady Mary Crawley - Polo
Lady Edith Crawley - Black Rock
Lady Sybil Crawley - Spacedaisy
Matthew Crawley - Nerolunar
Isobel Crawley - DrWilgy
Tom Branson - ika
Lady Rose MacClare - Dom
Downstairs
Mr. Carson - Epignosis
Mrs. Hughes - Illyria
John Bates - Matt
Anna Smith Bates - Silverwolf
Mrs. Patmore - Lorab
Daisy Mason - Bubbles replaced by bea Day 2
Joseph Moseley - Scotty

Mafia
Thomas Barrow - Long Con
Sarah O'Brien - Sorsha
James Kent - Metalmarsh89

The Doctor
Dr. Richard Clarkson - sig

So for anyone wondering why I never posted I don't do cypher posting

What was the reason for killing silver n1?

This was a superfun game to watch. I was biting nails at the end there.

Awesome game guys, you were a fun group to mod. And Congrats to Elohcin for such a fun first game as solo host!

Elohcin wrote:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Need premission

LoRab wrote:Personally, mainly because I'm stubborn, I'm not putting it outside the realm of possibility that LC was bad and his team killed him to protect his identity, seeing that his lynch seemed inevitable. What that means for this new lynch, I'm not sure. But I'm not buying that LC was civ. If he was, killing him would make no sense for the baddies.

Give this lady a prize.