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Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:14 am
by Tangrowth
Metalmarsh89 wrote:I am amazed at how fast you had that post written up MP.
I think we are down to two scenarios.
I've been F5ing the thread every 10 seconds from about 8:50AM onward, fully anticipating my death, only to see that I was still alive so I wanted to puke that post out as soon as possible.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:14 am
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:MM, if you're mafia, then well fucking played. Either way, I need you to work with me here so I can figure you and the rest of these players out, because I'm feeling lost. When are you going to be around?
Not until tonight, I'm on my way to school now and will be busy all day.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:14 am
by sig
yup we are in F or 1
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:14 am
by Tangrowth
I shouldn't be here, either, since I really need to write this stupid paper, but I can't get my hands to actually obey.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:15 am
by sig
That is the only one we have since Golden didn't flip as the two shot jailkeeper, and we know we have a vig, I believe.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:16 am
by ika
Honestly, the game should be over. Us town doesnt have controll of the lynch, i checked the wincons on MU and this is what scums wincons are
You are Mafia Goon. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch.
Controlling the lynch is arbitrarily defined at us town being able to use our numbers to lynch scum without their assistance, when its 3v3 its impossible for us to do it by natural means.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:16 am
by Tangrowth
sig wrote:voting unvote for the time so I can see the votes. I agree with MP we are in lylo. I think the possibility of even night vig just went up seeing how we had kills only on even nights. Golden was the JK, which doesn't help us much since we had a kill every night however, if he mentions the vig it could mean we have an every night vig who he protected twice?
I'm going to review some stuff. Right now I'd be fine with Wilgy. but I'm holding my vote.
I'm in the middle of school so I'll be in and out.
linki: If MM is mafia I so called it.
Probably best to hold the vote since we don't want a hammer this phase.
What do you think of everyone else? Reads list, maybe?
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:16 am
by Tangrowth
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:MM, if you're mafia, then well fucking played. Either way, I need you to work with me here so I can figure you and the rest of these players out, because I'm feeling lost. When are you going to be around?
Not until tonight, I'm on my way to school now and will be busy all day.
Ehhhh, that's probably for the best (for my RL work). Noted, thanks.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:17 am
by Tangrowth
ika wrote:Honestly, the game should be over. Us town doesnt have controll of the lynch, i checked the wincons on MU and this is what scums wincons are
You are Mafia Goon. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch.
Controlling the lynch is arbitrarily defined at us town being able to use our numbers to lynch scum without their assistance, when its 3v3 its impossible for us to do it by natural means.
Can't we control it via tie / coin flip?
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:17 am
by Tangrowth
I'm pretty sure the game is only still going because there's at least one TPR still alive. If it was just VTs, the game would be over, yeah?
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:17 am
by Marmot
I think ika just admitted to being scum.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:18 am
by ika
MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:Honestly, the game should be over. Us town doesnt have controll of the lynch, i checked the wincons on MU and this is what scums wincons are
You are Mafia Goon. You win when Town can no longer control the lynch.
Controlling the lynch is arbitrarily defined at us town being able to use our numbers to lynch scum without their assistance, when its 3v3 its impossible for us to do it by natural means.
Can't we control it via tie / coin flip?
thats not mafia, thats jsut trying to win by luck and chance.
pedit: no im talking realsitic here MM, even if i was scum i would argue this
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:19 am
by Tangrowth
Agh, this game.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:20 am
by Tangrowth
Scum team is:
DrWilgy, ika, and Metalmarsh or Scotty. It has to be. Unless sig is a G.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:20 am
by ika
me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:20 am
by sig
I'd say in theory since we can tie it then it isn't over. Assuming all mafia vote on one wagon then all town vote on a mafia member and we win the flip.
3/2
2/2
2/1
1/1
It could come down to a one vs one tie tie. But, we basically just need to hit one mafia member tonight and then connect the dots.
what is a G?
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:21 am
by Tangrowth
I guess DrWilgy, Metalmarsh, and Scotty is possible too...
Fuck this madness.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:21 am
by ika
however the final scum gave in cus how it is,is that they couldnt win so they gave up, this is the same situation.
tie voting is not controlling a lynch, thats jsut chance
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:21 am
by Tangrowth
ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:21 am
by Tangrowth
sig wrote:I'd say in theory since we can tie it then it isn't over. Assuming all mafia vote on one wagon then all town vote on a mafia member and we win the flip.
3/2
2/2
2/1
1/1
It could come down to a one vs one tie tie. But, we basically just need to hit one mafia member tonight and then connect the dots.
what is a G?
Gangster.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:23 am
by Tangrowth
I'm going to have to perform more analysis. Shame we don't have another scum flip to work with. This sucks. The only thing I can think of is performing interaction analyses between pairs of the final players remaining.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:23 am
by ika
MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM
THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:24 am
by Tangrowth
ika wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM
THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH
VOTE IKA
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:24 am
by ika
litarly every game i have ever fucking played, if scums are tied at SOD its scum win.
bullshit tie mechanics is not mafia
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:26 am
by ika
VOTE MOVING PICTURES
EAT FUCKIGN ROPE
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:26 am
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM
THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH
VOTE IKA
Umm, nice analysis.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:26 am
by Tangrowth
Day 5: Rainbow List
(#1 d5, #8 overall)
Strong Town:
N/A
Moderate Town:
N/A
Slight Town:
sig
Slight Mafia:
Scotty (Psittacitform)
ika
Metalmarsh89
Moderate Mafia:
DrWilgy
Strong Mafia:
N/A
Not much has changed, I guess. Clearly three of these people have to be scum. No one deserves moderate or strong town read. This is paranoia time.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:27 am
by sig
........
Will you two stop acting like children and STOP VOTING!
Like I mean are you seriously on the last day No Uing each other.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:28 am
by ika
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM
THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH
VOTE IKA
Umm, nice analysis.
MM HELP ME VOTE THE GOD DAMN SCUM OFF IF THE PLACE WANTS TO USE BULLSHIT MECHANICS TO MAKE REASONS TO NOT END THE GAME THEN LETS DO IT
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:28 am
by ika
sig wrote:........
Will you two stop acting like children and STOP VOTING!
Like I mean are you seriously on the last day No Uing each other.
HOW ABOUT YOU EAT ROPE TOO YOUR STILL SCUM
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:28 am
by sig
Metalmarsh89 wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:ika wrote:me and silver litraly had this same scnario once before where it was 2 scums (us), 1 scum, 1 town.
it didnt end due to a bullshit possible tie outcome
Sounds like you're upset the game hasn't ended.
ika, are you bad?
WILL YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU FUCKING SCUM THE FACT ITS NOT OVER IS FUCKING BULLSHIT OF COURSE IM NOT SCUM
THE GAME IS OVER TOWN DOES NOT HAVE CONTROLL OF LYNCH
VOTE IKA
Umm, nice analysis.
MM what do you think of Scotty? Do you think his RL made him busy or was it an excuse?
What does Scotty even do is he really like Taylor Swift or something.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:29 am
by sig
I'm really tempted to vote for Ika, but I don't want to fuck it up since he is yelling at me.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:29 am
by Marmot
sig wrote:........
Will you two stop acting like children and STOP VOTING!
Like I mean are you seriously on the last day No Uing each other.
It seems to be that way.
Linki: I am not voting yet because I want to have a chance to sit down on my computer and read later.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:30 am
by Tangrowth
ika's emotion seems sincere to me. I'm switching back.
VOTE DRWILGY
Term paper time. Be back later. Then I guess I'll revisit my IAWY interaction analyses and try performing some arbitrary paired analysis of the five of you? Not sure what else to do at this stage.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:30 am
by sig
hmm okay i suspected MM for a long time, I also suspected zebra and she flipped civ.
I think MM could be a civ.
I guess my lynch priority right now would be Wilgy, Ika, Scotty/MM
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:30 am
by Marmot
Scotty is actually Taylor Swift.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:32 am
by sig
So wait does it take three to hammer or four?
I knew it! Scoylor (Scotty +Taylor) should pay for all of use to go on a cruise or something.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:33 am
by Marmot
MovingPictures07 wrote:ika's emotion seems sincere to me. I'm switching back.
VOTE DRWILGY
Term paper time. Be back later. Then I guess I'll revisit my IAWY interaction analyses and try performing some arbitrary paired analysis of the five of you? Not sure what else to do at this stage.
We could probably talk about how awful our town vig has been.
Two kills between Zexy, Dyslexicon, Golden, and Soneji is just awful.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:33 am
by Marmot
sig wrote:So wait does it take three to hammer or four?
I knew it! Scoylor (Scotty +Taylor) should pay for all of use to go on a cruise or something.
Jay said it was 4.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:34 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
I've locked the thread. Stand by just one moment.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:37 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Initially I elected to continue the game because of the presence of a town power role, but I have changed my mind. A sound point was made that even with that power role in play, the game can only be tied at best (2-2) for town entering the next day phase. This does not constitute true control over a lynch, which means the mafia team has already met its win condition. I apologize for the tease, townies. This was a rather complex scenario.
THE MAFIA TEAM HAS WON THE SCRIMMAGE. CONGRATULATIONS!
You may all reveal yourselves at will.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:39 am
by Tangrowth
Eat it, townies.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:39 am
by Tangrowth
I was the Mafia Jack of All Trades.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:40 am
by sig
Sooooooo
ugh
Ika MP I'm going to kill you both for day 1 and what you just pulled like five minutes ago.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:41 am
by Tangrowth
sig wrote:Sooooooo
ugh
Ika MP I'm going to kill you both for day 1 and what you just pulled like five minutes ago.
What can I say?
What I can say is: Thanks to my teammates, ika, Inawordyes, and sig. Couldn't have done it without you all.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:41 am
by ika
2 things:
first: sorry for the vote switch i dditn mean to make the "two seprate votes" i wanted to change it back but couldnt
second: while i was scum, my rage and argument was 100% NAI, i would of done it as town and scum. when scum has living majority at SOD, game should be over. thats why i got so upset.
and FTR yes i killed silver, and yet it ate me alive and the only way i was able to overcome it was being able to talk ot her (I pmed JJJ and dom about how much guilt i had after and how i wanted to gamethrow)
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:42 am
by Tangrowth
Indeed, ika insisted on killing Silver N1, which I was OK with because she was onto me more than anyone else. I feared Epignosis, so I killed him too.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:42 am
by ika
so golden, do you realzie now that no matter how well you knwo MP you cant say what you have said?
when you compared me and sivler to you and MP they were 2 diffrent things entirely.
god i need a soda i will post more later.
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:43 am
by sig
also good job town it was tough at times.
Ika and Mp I had fun in BTSC chatting with you even though you almost gave me a heart attack and thanks Jay for the great game!
Re: Mafia Championship Scrimmage
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:44 am
by Silverwolf
Hi Yeah ika and I talked w permission of JJJ due to the guilt he felt for killing me. Because of these issues, we probably won't play together outside of the game we are signed up for, for a little while.