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Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:02 pm
by Golden
I'm going to be blogging Survivor from next season.
I'll post more closer to the time, but it would be neat if those of you who are Survivor fans came along and read my ramblings
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:09 pm
by insertnamehere
Golden wrote:I'm going to be blogging Survivor from next season.
I'll post more closer to the time, but it would be neat if those of you who are Survivor fans came along and read my ramblings
Ready for the Sierra/Troyzan power couple to take over the island?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:17 pm
by Golden
insertnamehere wrote:Golden wrote:I'm going to be blogging Survivor from next season.
I'll post more closer to the time, but it would be neat if those of you who are Survivor fans came along and read my ramblings
Ready for the Sierra/Troyzan power couple to take over the island?
I can't wait to see how a season like this plays out. It looks remarkably lopsided on paper.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:38 pm
by Scotty
GAME CHANGERS
ok how did Sierra change the game? She voted off her Mom? So what? I accidentally left my mom at a gas station on a vacation and you don't see me getting any medals.
But seriously am excited about seeing some familiar faces next season. Looks to be a pretty cutthroat one.
Ozzy should be voted out first, if they're smart.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:50 pm
by insertnamehere
Scotty wrote:GAME CHANGERS
ok how did Sierra change the game? She voted off her Mom? So what? I accidentally left my mom at a gas station on a vacation and you don't see me getting any medals.
But seriously am excited about seeing some familiar faces next season. Looks to be a pretty cutthroat one.
Ozzy should be voted out first, if they're smart.
Sierra Dawn Thomas and Ciera Eastin are both on the next season. Ciera's the one who VOTED OUT HER MOM according to Probst.
Sierra was in Worlds Apart and did literally nothing. Waste of a space.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:51 pm
by Golden
Scotty wrote:GAME CHANGERS
ok how did Sierra change the game? She voted off her Mom? So what? I accidentally left my mom at a gas station on a vacation and you don't see me getting any medals.
But seriously am excited about seeing some familiar faces next season. Looks to be a pretty cutthroat one.
Ozzy should be voted out first, if they're smart.
You're thinking of ciera. Sierra did much less.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 5:56 pm
by Scotty
Spoilers from this past season:
Jess's rock draw pissed me off. What a shitty way to go. I was rooting for her.
As for last season, what a heart wrenching story from Adam. During that last 2 episode arc it was clear he was being set up for a win from the edits, and I was being really put off by his sob story. But to hear that it was all true and his mother actually dying at that time is awful, and I'm glad he won. 100%. What a great gesture to give a quarter of his winnings to cancer research as well. I thoroughly enjoyed that season for the most part, even if Hannah existed and made some boneheaded decisions that impacted/blindsighted some of my favorite players.
Linki; ohhhh right. I don't even remember that Sierra lol.
What has anyone with the homophone of Sierra done in this game worth noting?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:13 pm
by insertnamehere
Scotty wrote:
Spoilers from this past season:
Jess's rock draw pissed me off. What a shitty way to go. I was rooting for her.
As for last season, what a heart wrenching story from Adam. During that last 2 episode arc it was clear he was being set up for a win from the edits, and I was being really put off by his sob story. But to hear that it was all true and his mother actually dying at that time is awful, and I'm glad he won. 100%. What a great gesture to give a quarter of his winnings to cancer research as well. I thoroughly enjoyed that season for the most part, even if Hannah existed and made some boneheaded decisions that impacted/blindsighted some of my favorite players.
Linki; ohhhh right. I don't even remember that Sierra lol.
What has anyone with the homophone of Sierra done in this game worth noting?
Ciera (the mom voting one) pulled a pretty amazing blindside on Andrew Savage in Second Chances.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 8:15 pm
by Golden
insertnamehere wrote:Ciera (the mom voting one) pulled a pretty amazing blindside on Andrew Savage in Second Chances.
I think Ciera's done a number of good things:
She did a lot of work to get Caleb to turn on Brad
She got Katie to admit she didn't have an idol through a shrewd piece of play
She recognised the need to go to rocks (sure, it was an episode too late)
She played both the Woo and Savage votes well in Second Chances, and was unlucky not to successfully dispatch of Fishbach too - it took an idol to get her out.
Listening to Jeff, you can see the season should be called 'Big Moves', because what he basically said is all of the players tried to do big things and play hard, even if it didn't work for them (this is still not true of Sierra...)
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:23 pm
by Scotty
Golden wrote:insertnamehere wrote:Ciera (the mom voting one) pulled a pretty amazing blindside on Andrew Savage in Second Chances.
I think Ciera's done a number of good things:
She did a lot of work to get Caleb to turn on Brad
She got Katie to admit she didn't have an idol through a shrewd piece of play
She recognised the need to go to rocks (sure, it was an episode too late)
She played both the Woo and Savage votes well in Second Chances, and was unlucky not to successfully dispatch of Fishbach too - it took an idol to get her out.
Listening to Jeff, you can see the season should be called 'Big Moves', because what he basically said is all of the players tried to do big things and play hard, even if it didn't work for them (this is still not true of Sierra...)
That one must not have had an impression on me. I know it just happened but I don't even remember the winner of that season.
It's that early onset dimentia striking again
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:00 pm
by Golden
So it begins:
http://www.truedorktimes.com/s34/martell/
I'm offically blogging Survivor, guys. Hope some of you who are Survivor fans will come along and read from time to time.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:16 pm
by insertnamehere
Congrats on hitting the TrueDorkTimes big leagues!
I'm definitely gonna try and read it every week. I can't get enough of online Survivor coverage.
If any of you all don't already know about it, Mario Lanza's Funny 115 website about Survivor is a goddamn masterpiece, and he's releasing his third iteration about seasons 21-30 right now.
http://www.funny115.com/
Definitely a must-read for Survivor fans, along with the Golden Ticket.
(I also love the hatch door map banner.)
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:59 pm
by Scotty
Awesome work man! I will read that during the show today.
I especially like from my initial perusal how you spell the word "analyze"
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:36 pm
by Golden
Scotty wrote:
Awesome work man! I will read that during the show today.
I especially like from my initial perusal how you spell the word "analyze"
Not colour?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:25 pm
by Golden
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:01 pm
by Scotty
Holy shit dude. Your thoughts and mine are almost the same!!
After looking at the lineup, I figured Sandra would be a huge pull for votes right around merge and would probably be the first voted out of the merged tribe. And then you said ~10th! Right on!
I really want Malcolm to win. I do love the makeup of the Malu tribe and would be willing to bet that if a majority of them make it to merge with numbers, one of them will win it all.
I'm supes excited about this season. Good gameplay > loud personalities > pretty people
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:35 pm
by Golden
I'm excited too. I just hope we don't lose superstar after superstar before the merge, that would be bad news.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:16 pm
by Scotty
Golden wrote:I'm excited too. I just hope we don't lose superstar after superstar before the merge, that would be bad news.
If I were on a tribe with a winner and 2-time winner, you best know I wouldn't ally with them nor would I want them on my team. But man would it be cool for one of them to go all the way again.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:15 pm
by insertnamehere
My Sandra avatar accurately describes the amount of days until Game Changers.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:03 pm
by Scotty
insertnamehere wrote:My Sandra avatar accurately describes the amount of days until Game Changers.
True dat. And no spoilers in thread until at least Thursday please! I won't get to watch until then.
I'll be sure and post my final 3 predictions after I watch the first episode tho
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:20 pm
by Golden
All talk spoiler tagged, is a good policy. I probably can't watch until your Thursday either.
I have to start my next blog tonight... I've seen the first 7 minutes of the episode and thought about the new twist (the one that's been publicly announced) so that's enough to get going.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:47 pm
by Scotty
Golden wrote:All talk spoiler tagged, is a good policy. I probably can't watch until your Thursday either.
I have to start my next blog tonight... I've seen the first 7 minutes of the episode and thought about the new twist (the one that's been publicly announced) so that's enough to get going.
Agreed. Until at least we're several weeks in.
We should all put out our top 3's and whoever wins wins a win
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:10 pm
by Golden
Is this your final 3, or top 3 guesses for who wins?
My top three guesses for who wins are:
The third one is me giving the end to the terrible season of terribleness, but I think they could beat some others they would get to the end with in that scenario.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:04 pm
by insertnamehere
My top three guesses for who wins:
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:04 pm
by insertnamehere
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:19 pm
by Scotty
Ok! I done caught up I tells ya.
Did a fancy little draft with some friends, and here are my picks for final 3:
insertnamehere wrote:But seriously...
Really?
Sandra? Really? Naw bro. She's too much of a threat. She's the first or second boot at merge. She and Tony got into that spat where she said "no one would vote for a winner at final tribal" and if she truly believes that, she is wrong. They would win in a heartbeat if the others are foolish enough to let Jen get that far. They're not gonna get that far. I would even go so far as to say that the patsy JT will outlast her.
Don't misunderstand though- she's one of the best characters here.
Michaela tho? That one I'm even more perplexed about. I WANT her to win. She's my woman. I love her and her short temper and inability to contain facial expressions. But not only does she have that working against her, she also is coming from general obscurity. I think that she and Zeke will find themselves on the outs early rather than later, because I don't think this group wants another Russell hantz situation on their hands. Which sucks, because she's great.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:23 pm
by Scotty
Also hilarious is that it is pure coincidence that I named a tribe in my game 'Mamana' when a tribe of similar colors in this season is called 'Mana'
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:12 pm
by Golden
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:16 am
by Golden
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:07 pm
by Ricochet
Ok, sell me on one Survivor season.
One.
You can collaborate at will on this one.
And not the first one, I've seen that one back in the day. I actually still strongly remember Richard for how much of a vile, yet laudable ass he was. Dammit, I even vividly remember the last 3 challenge, that Rudy lost after, what, nine hours or something? I think my parents were heartbroken by it or something. Damn you brain, why you choose to keep these memories, of all things!!
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:24 pm
by Golden
It's funny looking back now and watching season one... Richard doesn't seem at all vile any more.
Before there is any pitching - from your one season only perspective, what do you like about the idea of Survivor, and what do you not like about it?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:47 pm
by Ricochet
The Last-Person-Standing-like challenge, competition and spectacle would interest me the most, by some distance. I attribute the challenges more towards the episodic nature of the series, so with exceptions that are gripping or truly interesting (like the Rudy stuff I mentioned, stuck in my brain webs), this will probably not attract me as most. Further down the rainbow, I don't see myself either perceptive enough or downright interested in the (actual) survivor skills on display throughout the tournament.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:52 pm
by Golden
Do you likely to be more or less interested in social dynamics forcing strategy (say, conflict in real life views) or in pure gamesmanship defining strategy? What's your tolerance for strategic jerkiness?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:10 pm
by Ricochet
I'd be tolerant to watching mostly anything unfold, methinks. But that's as far as I can understand your question. It would not be the same as saying I also condone what veers on edgy and dirty or that I'd intentionally ask for big drama to go with my popcorn. Then again, I've watched enough Weakest Link to know gamesmanship and strategy don't always match.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:43 pm
by Golden
Ricochet wrote:I'd be tolerant to watching mostly anything unfold, methinks. But that's as far as I can understand your question. It would not be the same as saying I also condone what veers on edgy and dirty or that I'd intentionally ask for big drama to go with my popcorn. Then again, I've watched enough Weakest Link to know gamesmanship and strategy don't always match.
Aha, how true! But a big part of the appeal of Survivor (in my opinion) is figuring out who is playing well, and who is not (the worst seasons, however, are the ones where a bunch of people aren't playing at all).
My pitch to you is:
Pearl Islands, season 7.
Here's a few reasons why this season would be a good season for you to watch.
1) The season has a number of surprises and also a number of evidently good and bad decisions. In terms of watching the battle to be the last man standing, it's a pretty good watch. Power plays and attempted power plays abound. It's a formative season for what good Survivor strategy looks like.
2) The cast is diverse. It includes a number of Survivor's most recognisable faces playing for the first time. There's a good mix of the one dimensional, but plenty of two dimensional characters as well (and the one dimensional characters are still very compelling TV). There is douchiness but not to an obnoxious level that affects enjoyment of the season.
3) There is a certain evolution to Survivor, that I think makes the show more compelling if you watch a couple of earlier seasons first. Pearl Islands predates the invention of many of the twists the show has thrown at us, and while many of those twists have been fantastic and added strategic options for good players, I think it's best to get a compass of what 'good play' looks like while the game is still relatively raw. I'd give you a short list of seasons to watch to get a crash course in the evolution of the game, but since the rule is one season, this is probably the best.
4) In a recent poll of fans, Pearl Islands managed to come in second to top in terms of 'what is the best season'. It's popularity hasn't waned for a reason.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:53 pm
by insertnamehere
PEARL ISLANDS = BEST SEASON
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:58 pm
by Golden
Now that's what I call collaboration!
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:52 pm
by Ricochet
Well, since this seems a thread of three lately, I say that'll be enough and that the tribe has spoken.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:54 pm
by Golden
I look forward to your review
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:12 am
by juliets
I'll be interested in seeing your blog about this week's show Golden.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 3:43 pm
by Golden
juliets wrote:I'll be interested in seeing your blog about this week's show Golden.
No kidding! As I was watching it play out I was thinking 'how do I even begin to make sense of this'. I'll do my best!
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:37 am
by Scotty
Golden wrote:juliets wrote:I'll be interested in seeing your blog about this week's show Golden.
No kidding! As I was watching it play out I was thinking 'how do I even begin to make sense of this'. I'll do my best!
Spoiler alert:
IM MORE PISSED THAN DEBBIE WAS IN THE PREVIEW FOR NEXT EPISODE. MY BOY MALCOLM WAS ROBBED. ALSO NO ONE CAN SPELL HIS NAME RIGHT. HOSERS.
I think Varner, Sierra and Troyzan are in pretty spots though.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:15 am
by insertnamehere
Hey, it saved Sandra for another week, so I'd call it a good twist.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:09 pm
by Ricochet
Ugh, and I told myself I wouldn't do this. #shutthisreviewingfactorydown #shut.it.down
Pearl Harbour ep1
See, even an introductory, low stakes episode such as this highlights what draws skepticism and cynicism from me in regards to these highly-televised, highly-monitored, heavy on post-production reality shows. It was impossible for me not to think that a narrative was threaded, making it all look like "Morgan Tribe shits the bed - The Episode" - granted, with that group having a very poor, scattered challenge and bonding performance, overall. But compared to it, nitpicking into Drake issues was like, what -- "oh, Jon turns into a drunktard jokester?" Riveting.
That being said, I nearly anticipated a karma bitch moment of Morgan winning the immunity challenge overall and it ALMOST happened. Not that I could make much sense of that high-pace editing. Drake seemed dead stuck, then suddenly no steam left for Morgan? Shouldn't they have been a mile ahead by the time Drake finally pulled on the better sand route? No idea how Morgan blew it, tbh. And that's considerate, given that their opening strategy was "let's carry each component of this cannon separately", good grief
.
One thing I didn't understand or even disliked during the imm challenge was the rocks clearing phase. It seemed like Drake did all the clearing, while Morgan just recovered and waited in the back? How was this fairly set out for a dual confrontation?
Rupert's lootin' kinda earned mad respect from me, lul. He ain't wrong about being cheeky whilst also focused on the prize. Even more serious cred for all that fishin', especially after [two macho men, whomever those personality-less chaps were] barely farted one catch. Sandra being a genuine trump card for this team during the trades was also notabl
hey hold up isn't this the lady in INH's avatar??. These two seem jury material, at least, easily. I think Jonster the Jokester will be fine for a while, too, even if he was the only thing the rest of Drake could grimace at. Has a bit of edge that I think will keep him afloat.
Over on These-Poor-Folks' side, the only thing I noted was Lillian's doing her scout stuff when appropriate and at this point I wouldn't say I can fault Andrew for what he attempts or speaks out as a leader. Very surprised human bulk Osten got away easy during Throwing Under the Bus phase; literally no mention or beef. He must have been aligned with the other two powerhorse macho figured and left alone. I honestly didn't see the bit about Ryan S. not pulling his weight during the challenge because MALE NAKED BUTTS PULLING AND PUSHING STUFF. As soon as Nicole went trying to hook people into eliminating [Tijuana? Tijuanda?], I sensed she went too tryhard into this scheme and it would backfire. Good choice, I suppose, but nothing too thrilling about this, per se. Both Ryan S. as a challenge fail scapegoat and Nicole as "cash me ousside howba dah" drama seemed fairly routine elimination routes.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:25 pm
by Golden
Survivor's production values are higher than most - while there's no doubt that they craft a narrative for their 42-minute synopsis of three days of real life, most contestants say it always broadly reflects what actually happened (and those that don't are usually blowhards who came off looking like jerks because they are jerks). The one exception being that they will almost always endeavour to make you believe there is more than one name on the table going in to tribal council to allow for suspense, even if the vote was actually straightforward.
I've sat amongst people who are in the prediction game for a long while and... some seasons they get it right, some they get it badly wrong. Survivor editors are notable for deliberately toying with your expectations of the edit. But they're still bound to ensure that even the most casual of viewer can feel like they can understand what happened.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:01 pm
by Ricochet
Didn't plan on watching a new episode for at least one or two days, but I didn't pick a movie for this evening, so I said to myself, whatevs
Pearl Harbour ep 2
I generally feel I got the same viewing experience as on the first episode - The Woes of Morgan. Drake conflicts were again trivial, although that fishing spear mishap was serious and cool drama. And what Sandra did to them, looting their tarp, oh da sizzle.
Which brings me to Skeptic-Moment-of-this-Episode, in regards to the post-edit drama. So here's me watching:
a. Andrew and Osten (Morgan) fearing Drake might steal their tarp
b. Sandra comes here: "Ola. Hhmm... how 'bout tarp?"
and I'm like
Now onto Morgan - with comments on at least the relevant people (half of them were totally in the shadows this episode):
1. Skinny Ryan having been sent first into the reward challenge (treasure picking in the water) -
why?!?!. I seriously could not even understand this mismatch between "hey, we hate Skinny Ryan for not pulling his weight, being to our disadvantage; let's send him into the water!"
2. Still like Andrew's chops, he was especially superior in the first part of the imm challenge...
3. ... which brings me to the second part. How.
How. Did Morgan just got stuck at the finish line like this.
4. My reactions to Osten's should I stay or should I go antics were pretty negative. Just like Lillian said, it was clear Osten is kinda pussying out. Didn't like him from minute one in this series, so every argument he brought about feeling spent just sounded disingenuous to me.
5. ...that being said, also having in mind what Golden pointed out in the post above, I was dead sure Osten would not get the boot and the tribe (majority) answer to that will be "sorry, we still need the manpower". Still feeling bad for Skinny Ryan, especially given my point 1. It's like they sentenced him to death.
So there you go, I'm rambling on a Survivor episode just like my grandma rambles on how Sheik Uzgün's wife cheating on him with his brother in her TV soap.
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:38 pm
by Golden
You have no idea how relevant that simile is going to be...
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:47 pm
by Ricochet
That what?
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:49 pm
by Golden
Ricochet wrote:That what?
The simile you used in your last sentence!
Re: SURVIVOR
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:49 pm
by Scotty
Ricochet wrote:That what?
A simile is like a metaphor