The Syndicate

bea wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:On another note, every single one of us who shared GTH reads listed Bea as a baddie read. Like I said earlier, giving the results staggered like we did opens things up to manipulation from bad players coming in late, but still, the results are the results. If we were voting solely based on that exercise, Bea would be a slam dunk lynch. That is not to say I think we should lynch her today (I'm not sure we should at all), but it's something worth discussing. Obviously the most important thing is Bea herself finding the time to play with us today.

I am trying. I can see why people would think so because I was inactive. I was/am sick. I was bound to my bed for days. The low content last cycle was not normal for me regardless of allignment and had everythijg to do with being sick. I ditched the sim saturday and havent been anywhere else i normally am as well.

I certainly don't fault you for your absence and I appreciate your efforts to get involved. Where are you in your catchup attempt right now?

Soneji wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Soneji wrote:Do you think that I specifically forget to mention my teammates as mafia, Llama?

Yeah.

Would you like to display your research to the class?

Nah.

John Coltrane wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:

Scotty wrote:Remind me again what John coltrane has done in this game?

Spent a lot of time justifying a vote at the very end of the Macdougall bandwagon.

Wow. Really? Very nice of you to say

I don't appreciate this assessment of my contributions. Although I haven't posted much, I've done more than this. I certainly did post more info/opinion than that, and more suspicions along with my Mac vote.

Back to my reading, with more to say as I go along.

Forgot to address this earlier. No hard feelings, Mr Coltrane. This was a reaction test. I gave you a much more thorough and favorable look in the main thread.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:From what I have observed, it does not appear that any (or at least not many) roles have been directly copied from past games. It seems they are mostly just based on games from the last calendar year, not ripped directly from them.

I take it your role is in the same boat?

I will say that mine is as well. It is based on a past game, but not taken verbatim from a past game.

I was locked away in solitary when all those mofos got to play their little prison games last time.

I was killed Night 1 in Prison Wars. That was bothersome.

I was killed in the middle of linkitis in Death Note, so sad.

So I guess the roles are a mix. Mine was verbatim. Macs was from the universe of his game, as I understand it, but not a role in the actual game. Yours is based on a game, like Macs was?

John Coltrane wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Coltrane has given no one any reason to trust him. I don't have a specific ping about him like I do against Soneji, but he definitely has work to do if he wants to stick around. I'd say the same for Donna Meagle, who appears to not be trying at all.

Thing is, I'm 99% confident I know who John Coltrane is, and he's been lynched recently for this exact kind of behavior, only to flip civilian.

I don't intend to defend him, I just wanted to say that.

Hmmm, I'd like to see if you are right

Yeah, gonna take a break. Apologies.

I'm pretty sure I am.

But I'd like to hear more from you. GTH reads perhaps? A rainbow list? Something?

You've made three posts in this thread, and they've all been defenses of yourself. I need to know what you think about other players.

Same with you Donna. Let's get some input!!!

Linki: Oh hey! That was my doing wasn't it. I was killed similarly in a game recently, can't remember which one.

I think there is enough content in this thread alone for everyone to have something to say about something.
We've got a few substantial cases against the likes of Soneji and Made. What do people think of these?
Myself and Scotty have also received a bit of scrutiny.
There's been a good deal of chatter about lynching a low poster (Bea seems to be the preferred choice). What does everyone think of this? We've got plenty of time to work out a good lynch, but that requires us not sitting on our hands.

I've already said what I thought about Soneji - not going to vote there today unless something else compelling comes up.

I'm not seeing the suspicions on Prisoner and Scotty. In fact, I'd like to hear MM's reasoning for a Scotty vote.

I could still vote bea. She hasn't really allayed my concerns but she seems to be trying. I could also vote for Made. The more I thought about it the more I don't like that initial question to us about the other thread, and I'm not wild about the S~V~S post I quoted. I'm also wondering if Epi's suspicion of Made might be what got him killed. It was early though, before his suspicion of Mac.

I have moved away from Coltrane but he does only have 3 posts as someone just pointed out and in his last post he seemed angry and then gave up. I'm not wild about that but I guess it doesn't mean he's bad.

Made was the 5th vote on Mac out of 8. The 5th vote on what was mostly a runaway wagon against an inactive scum player has bus potential. When I looked at the 8 Mac voters for a potential busser, I slotted Made right in the middle of the pack. That is to say, his vote did not strike me as particularly good or bad. So this essentially worke out to a null read, which neither helps nor hurts my suspicion today.

Just fyi Prisoner, there were 9 votes on Mac. If you look at the top of the vote record in the vote thread you will see that Daisy made a note that the version of the poll she captured was prior to the end of the poll, and that sorsha was the 9th voter for Mac. I don't think that changes your analysis, Made is still in the middle, I just bring it up in case it becomes important to you later on down the road, for example in an analysis of sorsha.

My vote is a placeholder vote.

I'm off now, I'll be back later. I'll likely vote for a low-poster when I do. I don't feel strongly about a suspicion of anyone. I'm willing to give Made the benefit of the doubt with regards to whether he bussed MacDougall or not, at least until we can see the posts from Day 1.

As for bea, I asked others what they think about her posts in this thread, but got no response. I find her entrance to this thread (and Day 2) to be genuine.

While Soneji did not vote for Mac on Day 1, he did vote for sig, a suspicion I share.

As such, I will likely vote Boomslang unless he responds, or at least demonstrates that he's paying attention. Actually, I'll go ahead and vote Boomslang now!



Later, Beach Bums.

Linki: There were eight (8) votes on Mac.

Never mind, I misread your post juliets.

juliets wrote:Just fyi Prisoner, there were 9 votes on Mac. If you look at the top of the vote record in the vote thread you will see that Daisy made a note that the version of the poll she captured was prior to the end of the poll, and that sorsha was the 9th voter for Mac. I don't think that changes your analysis, Made is still in the middle, I just bring it up in case it becomes important to you later on down the road, for example in an analysis of sorsha.

I had not noticed this, as sorsha is not recorded in the Polls thread. Thank you. I'll have a look at Sorsha if/when I'm back in that thread.

Prisoner 27385 wrote:I think there is enough content in this thread alone for everyone to have something to say about something.
We've got a few substantial cases against the likes of Soneji and Made. What do people think of these?
Myself and Scotty have also received a bit of scrutiny.
There's been a good deal of chatter about lynching a low poster (Bea seems to be the preferred choice). What does everyone think of this? We've got plenty of time to work out a good lynch, but that requires us not sitting on our hands.

You know what I think about Soneji. I have yet to be convinced by the case on Made. I guess I'm not seeing what others are seeing. I have a blind spot for Scotty. I always tend to think he's bad based on tone, so I don't especially suspect him here, and as I said in the other thread, I think you would be nuts if you were Mac's teammate (assuming only one baddie team, that clears you, but I don't know if I'm ready to make that assumption).

My GTH read of Bea was thta she could be bad, and I wouldn't object to lynching her. However, I do not think she would lie about being sick to excuse her inactivity.

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:I think there is enough content in this thread alone for everyone to have something to say about something.
We've got a few substantial cases against the likes of Soneji and Made. What do people think of these?
Myself and Scotty have also received a bit of scrutiny.
There's been a good deal of chatter about lynching a low poster (Bea seems to be the preferred choice). What does everyone think of this? We've got plenty of time to work out a good lynch, but that requires us not sitting on our hands.

You know what I think about Soneji. I have yet to be convinced by the case on Made. I guess I'm not seeing what others are seeing. I have a blind spot for Scotty. I always tend to think he's bad based on tone, so I don't especially suspect him here, and as I said in the other thread, I think you would be nuts if you were Mac's teammate (assuming only one baddie team, that clears you, but I don't know if I'm ready to make that assumption).

My GTH read of Bea was thta she could be bad, and I wouldn't object to lynching her. However, I do not think she would lie about being sick to excuse her inactivity.

I am still waiting for Made to get in here and say a few more things before I make a final decision on him. If he changes my mind I'm likely to move to Bea just to give our GTH results some credit.

juliets wrote:Ooooh ok Scotty. I think I see now. And yeah, it's odd that the cheerleader is here but there are no process elements to protect. I'll discount the cheerleader for the rest of the day.

Made, I have two things for you in looking over your posts. First, can you explain what you meant in the underlined portion?

Made wrote:Ok, so I do not know SVS's meta but she's reading really lowkey to me. Like from the games i remember she's been very much at the forefront of baddie hunting and theory making and stuff and things, but day 1 and so far during beach day, she seems to be throwing ideas in thread with relatively isolated back and forth. I didn't look at her day 1 post ISO but she did have the same number of post as me during day 1 (31) which i felt i was personally lacking relative to my typical standard. Given it's probably has been like 2 years since I've played with her, I wanted to point this out.

Also, you said in another post that you didn't vote for Mac based on the meta analysis, that you had another case on him. Since you voted at the same time as the meta analysis was going on I assumed thats why you had voted him. What was that case or reason you voted for him if it wasn't that?

Finally, I mentioned it before but just a reminder, could you explain why you wanted us to look at people in the other thread?

Keyboard numbers don't all work so bear with me
[one]. I didn't see a lot of conversation with svs during day one, i just saw a lot of larger post with no real back and forth
2. he was reading funny to me, he said something along the lines of " voting priz ;} " and with that and a lack of content in other post I voted him.
3. I kinda responded to a variation of this question, but it's not that I'm like super interested in the other thread, It was 5 hours in essentially another day one and I wanted more discussion. To my credit, it worked, and most people answers the question. to quote svs

S~V~S wrote:
And I asked you because I wanted to hear your answer.

And further, I'd argue as a few other have that wanting to talk about the other thread isn't a sign of alignment. Infact, a baddie has no reason to talk about the other thread because they basically have access to it?
Actually, I'm gonna take this a step further: Excuse my tone, but i feel like the cases against me are kinda bull.

If you suspect of me having a weridly good memory and thing that points to my alignment, that's on you.
My question stims from information i can't know, so I asked. tbh, specific answers to that question could of even provided pretty good information because if you know what's going on in the other thread, you answer to the question has to be given with more discression that someone doesn't know.
Warning more memory incoming: the votes for Mac switched fast. It went from 5 votes on Wilgy to 5 votes on Mac in the time it took me to type my reason for voting Mac. This means that it wasn't a lost cause by the time Juliets, Myself, or LC voted. Does that clear any of us? no. But It doesn't provide a bad read of us. like Juliets said it's created a null read.

If you want to vote me for thinking the majority of the baddies are in the other thread, well fine. I think that's silly, frankly, but do you what you gotta do.
I'm not claiming that I shouldn't be questioned or taking heat, I just think the things i'm taking heat in unproportional amounts for silly reasons.

Going to reread everyone with vote records in mind and see where that leads me.

Thanks Made, I appreciate your passion.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My vote is a placeholder vote.

I'm off now, I'll be back later. I'll likely vote for a low-poster when I do. I don't feel strongly about a suspicion of anyone. I'm willing to give Made the benefit of the doubt with regards to whether he bussed MacDougall or not, at least until we can see the posts from Day 1.

As for bea, I asked others what they think about her posts in this thread, but got no response. I find her entrance to this thread (and Day 2) to be genuine.

While Soneji did not vote for Mac on Day 1, he did vote for sig, a suspicion I share.

As such, I will likely vote Boomslang unless he responds, or at least demonstrates that he's paying attention. Actually, I'll go ahead and vote Boomslang now!



Later, Beach Bums.

Linki: There were eight (8) votes on Mac.

Hey MM, it doesn't look like you changed your vote but at least I know from this you don't suspect Scotty as your highest suspicion any longer.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:Is there more to the Soneji case than his denouncement of meta-analysis? Because I can't vote for him if that's it.

There's a little more to it. I initially noticed Soneji for his avoidance of mentioning Macdougall, even when he was the central topic of discussion. The meta comment combined with that observation to form my suspicion, as I think baddies often forget to talk about one another.

Mac didn't really talk about anyone except the players who voted for him.

Soneji didn't post all that much in the Day 1 thread either.


I don't find it that surprising that one quiet player did not mention another quiet player.

before I forgot, this isn't true. Surprised llama didn't point this out actually because he's the one i'm quoting.
According to a post from night one he made,
the players who mac talked to that day or quoted by name that day were Golden, priz, Wilgy, DH, Boom, Quin, Sig, Epi, MM, llama, juliets, me, LC, BR, John Coltrane, and Sorsha. The players who talked about or quoted mac by name were Priz, Quin, Epi, Mm, llama, juliets, Professor, BR, LC, Myself, Wilgy, Golden, Scotty, Sig, DH, Boom, John Colltrane, Sorsha, and Lorab

The players who neither talked about nor talk to him bea. bwt, Soneji, Floyd, and timmer

Source: this happened to be on the one page i had open in another tab.

Prisoner, could you refresh my memory about what you said about Coltrane's vote on Mac in the other thread?

Made wrote: before I forgot, this isn't true. Surprised llama didn't point this out actually because he's the one i'm quoting.
According to a post from night one he made,
the players who mac talked to that day or quoted by name that day were Golden, priz, Wilgy, DH, Boom, Quin, Sig, Epi, MM, llama, juliets, me, LC, BR, John Coltrane, and Sorsha. The players who talked about or quoted mac by name were Priz, Quin, Epi, Mm, llama, juliets, Professor, BR, LC, Myself, Wilgy, Golden, Scotty, Sig, DH, Boom, John Colltrane, Sorsha, and Lorab

The players who neither talked about nor talk to him bea. bwt, Soneji, Floyd, and timmer

Source: this happened to be on the one page i had open in another tab.

Thanks for digging up that list, Made. I needed a refresher on it. The fact that Bea was on the "no interaction" list is one of the reasons I am more willing to lynch her than I am Boomslang, for example. Until now I have been giving her the benefit of the doubt because of her illness, but my patience for non-contributors is running out.

thellama73 wrote:

Made wrote: before I forgot, this isn't true. Surprised llama didn't point this out actually because he's the one i'm quoting.
According to a post from night one he made,
the players who mac talked to that day or quoted by name that day were Golden, priz, Wilgy, DH, Boom, Quin, Sig, Epi, MM, llama, juliets, me, LC, BR, John Coltrane, and Sorsha. The players who talked about or quoted mac by name were Priz, Quin, Epi, Mm, llama, juliets, Professor, BR, LC, Myself, Wilgy, Golden, Scotty, Sig, DH, Boom, John Colltrane, Sorsha, and Lorab

The players who neither talked about nor talk to him bea. bwt, Soneji, Floyd, and timmer

Source: this happened to be on the one page i had open in another tab.

Thanks for digging up that list, Made. I needed a refresher on it. The fact that Bea was on the "no interaction" list is one of the reasons I am more willing to lynch her than I am Boomslang, for example. Until now I have been giving her the benefit of the doubt because of her illness, but my patience for non-contributors is running out.

Does anyone recall what Booms said about Mac? I only remember him randomizing among the Mac voters as opposed to saying anything about Mac. My memory is not the best after two days. I do agree llama I am out of patience with the non-contributors.

Something to point out in Made's favor is he only had about 30 posts total in the Felt game we just played where he was bad. He was blendy in that game, and he remarked that when he's mafia he overthinks things which makes it hard to get things into the thread. I guess he could have radically changed his style this game but I really think you can't change that much in one game.

To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I dont understand why boom is suspicious outside of not posting much.

I like the priz, i like svs, i like jc. They are reading civ. ??? For everyone else.

Made keeps making me flip flop.

Im not sure i completely get the back and forth between songj and llama.

Ugh. Posted before i was done. I felt pretty good about golden too when i was read up his silence seems genuine.

I know its not suspects listed, but i tend to work backwards.

bea wrote:To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I know. That's why I'd rather lynch Soneji today and revisit you once I have more content to analyze.

Boomslang, I see you are here. Please post!

Is it possible Boom is faking being silenced? But then why would he do that?

Alternatively, is it possible Golden is faking being silenced?

If Booms is faking being silenced why wouldn't he vote?

I guess Golden could be faking it but he likes to talk so much I tend to doubt it.

I've thought about a role that has choices of what they want to do each night and maybe they picked silencing and then maybe there is a silencer role as well but Epi had a role that allowed him to choose among abilities and I don't know that there would be two such roles in one game. Gosh that was a long sentence. I also thought about a mimic but then again, why hasn't Boom voted?

juliets wrote:I've thought about a role that has choices of what they want to do each night and maybe they picked silencing and then maybe there is a silencer role as well but Epi had a role that allowed him to choose among abilities and I don't know that there would be two such roles in one game. Gosh that was a long sentence. I also thought about a mimic but then again, why hasn't Boom voted?

I have been in games with role abilities thta both silence and prevent voting, but it seems unlikely to be paired with another silencer role.

thellama73 wrote:Is it possible Boom is faking being silenced? But then why would he do that?

It's always possible. Boomslang would only make sense if either there is a town silencing role (which picked a quiet player so as to not silence a potentially strong voice on Day 2) or if some sort of indirect/passive or misdirected silencing ability is in play. Or Boomslang simply hasn't said anything. Golden is almost certainly silenced/pretending to be silenced.

juliets wrote:Prisoner, could you refresh my memory about what you said about Coltrane's vote on Mac in the other thread?

It came at the very end of the day when Mac was a sure thing to be lynched. This is not a mark for or against John Coltrane. The vote also came in a long post explaining his thought process and what lead him to the vote for Macdougall. I forget what exactly what it said, but nothing of what he said seemed unreasonable to me at the time. But it was nothing that couldn't be fabricated by a baddie player, and as his vote was just a tacked on contribution at the end of the day (not his fault, just timing), it is hard to say that his vote is definitively good. Likewise, he didn't post enough overall on Day 1 to make any such determination.

Reiterating this post from earlier @Made:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:voting for Made

Made wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:The working theory in these GTH exercises is that baddies tend to name more good/civ reads, perhaps because they are nervous about calling out players who they know are town. This makes me look at Made more questioningly.

I feel like there is a flaw in this logic. As a counter question, if there's four baddies in this group, and everyone feels like the other group is badder, then how many baddies are in that group, and how many baddies are there over all?

What is the flaw in this logic?

I'd also like to add on to it. Made, your response to my point about you naming the fewest baddies in our GTH exercise is that you believe the Hatch holds more baddies than the Beach. With a gun to your head, who are the Hatch baddies?

bea wrote:To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I dont understand why boom is suspicious outside of not posting much.

I like the priz, i like svs, i like jc. They are reading civ. ??? For everyone else.

Made keeps making me flip flop.

Im not sure i completely get the back and forth between songj and llama.

What do you think of Scotty and juliets?

thellama73 wrote:Alternatively, is it possible Golden is faking being silenced?

I think he's a civ, so:shrug:

I lost internet for a few hours, catch up time.

Alright, time to post instead of do the work on which I am desperately behind. Hella busy for personal reasons, will not be of much help in the next few days.

Juliets is right: I didn't post anything about Mac himself, I merely randomized among his voters. Not having time to catch up, I made the following logical argument to myself: the odds of lynching mafia are worst on Day 1, Mac was more likely to be good than bad (all else being equal), and at least one blendy mafia would jump on the biggest lynch train. Turns out he was bad, so way to beat the odds!

Llama's case on Soneji seems the most solid out of anything so far. Omitting the lynchee from discussion while questioning the judgment used to lynch him is textbook indirect mafia support. I also don't like Soneji quickly jumping to "You didn't see me defend Mac, did you?" when talking about his distrust of meta. That seemed to me to be ahead of llama's questioning. Doth protest too much. And whoa, Soneji saying "As for a GTH, everyone is bad in my eyes until they flip otherwise" is just a tremendous cop-out of responsibility. Could at least say he didn't have time or just ignore the request altogether. And there's some snarky sarcasm that doesn't read right.

Prisoner comes out best in the interaction with Scotty. Scotty emphasizes "why not," while Prisoners wants to get a solid reason "why." Prisoner also leads a GTH rollcall, which if nothing else generates content.

I also don't really like bea coming in and questioning the votes on me. Like Soneji's posts on meta, I think it's a tangential defense of her own absence.

I feel like Golden is using his movable vote to keep a running commentary on the thread. I see votes on me, juliets, and John Coltrane commented. Missed the actual timing, so not sure how much I can help with analyzing that, but there it is.

Made looks better here than he did last game we played. Helpful as much as he can be, and my gut likes his last few defense posts.

That's about it. Have to vote soon, and will probably go with Soneji unless something big happens in the next half hour.

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Alternatively, is it possible Golden is faking being silenced?

I think he's a civ, so:shrug:

I lost internet for a few hours, catch up time.

I do too, but civs have been known to fake these things "for the lulz". Golden is not that type of player though.

Prisoner 27385 wrote:

bea wrote:To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I dont understand why boom is suspicious outside of not posting much.

I like the priz, i like svs, i like jc. They are reading civ. ??? For everyone else.

Made keeps making me flip flop.

Im not sure i completely get the back and forth between songj and llama.

What do you think of Scotty and juliets?

Prisoner, I am the "jc" she's referring to, juliet's coffee used to be my full screen name and people still call me "jc".

Oh, hi Boom!

juliets wrote:Something to point out in Made's favor is he only had about 30 posts total in the Felt game we just played where he was bad. He was blendy in that game, and he remarked that when he's mafia he overthinks things which makes it hard to get things into the thread. I guess he could have radically changed his style this game but I really think you can't change that much in one game.

This is the big thing that doesn't have me pushing it further. I liked Made's tone on day 1. It felt...different from his recent baddie game. But if I were just lynched for being bad, I'd want to change it up next time. Wouldn't you?

Yo Made. You haven't answered my post to you:

Scotty wrote:Sorry I missed the GTH fun. Not gonna play right now. Goin to bed after a long night of singing.

Made wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:

Made wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:My sources and you simply have not been acquainted yet.
Who are your top suspects, whether they're at the beach or not?

I'm gonna piggy back on this: As a fun thought experiment, who do you think is going to be lynched in Hatch? Not who would you lynch, but who do you think would be?

In case you forgot:
DharmaHelper (1), Black Rock (3), Quin (8), Long Con (13), timmer (14), DrWilgy (16), sig (22), Professor Farnsworth (23), Sorsha (24), TheFloyd73 (26), LoRab (27) 39%

Personally I'd guess Sig but would deffo put LoRab in there as a toss up.

Who do you think is going to be lynched at the beach?

I feel like our group is more of a crap shoot of who comes up with a theory that sticks. I could see me, I could see you, but i feel like scotty is most vulnerable atm.

Made wrote:iunno call it gut I guess. I just feel he's susceptible to vote atm.

Whatever happened to this dingleberry of a comment?

I see you GTH read me as good. That's swell, Made. I didn't realize I was off your radar. I'm still trying to decipher what you meant by your comment of me being "vulnerable" and "susceptible to vote". Like, is that even a suspicion? If it isn't, then why even mention it?

Made wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:Is there more to the Soneji case than his denouncement of meta-analysis? Because I can't vote for him if that's it.

There's a little more to it. I initially noticed Soneji for his avoidance of mentioning Macdougall, even when he was the central topic of discussion. The meta comment combined with that observation to form my suspicion, as I think baddies often forget to talk about one another.

Mac didn't really talk about anyone except the players who voted for him.

Soneji didn't post all that much in the Day 1 thread either.


I don't find it that surprising that one quiet player did not mention another quiet player.

before I forgot, this isn't true. Surprised llama didn't point this out actually because he's the one i'm quoting.
According to a post from night one he made,
the players who mac talked to that day or quoted by name that day were Golden, priz, Wilgy, DH, Boom, Quin, Sig, Epi, MM, llama, juliets, me, LC, BR, John Coltrane, and Sorsha. The players who talked about or quoted mac by name were Priz, Quin, Epi, Mm, llama, juliets, Professor, BR, LC, Myself, Wilgy, Golden, Scotty, Sig, DH, Boom, John Colltrane, Sorsha, and Lorab

The players who neither talked about nor talk to him bea. bwt, Soneji, Floyd, and timmer

Source: this happened to be on the one page i had open in another tab.

juliets wrote:

Prisoner 27385 wrote:

bea wrote:To be fair llama, I didnt interact with you yesterday either. Pretty hard to interact with anyone through the 10 pages of chatter i was passed out during.

I dont understand why boom is suspicious outside of not posting much.

I like the priz, i like svs, i like jc. They are reading civ. ??? For everyone else.

Made keeps making me flip flop.

Im not sure i completely get the back and forth between songj and llama.

What do you think of Scotty and juliets?

Prisoner, I am the "jc" she's referring to, juliet's coffee used to be my full screen name and people still call me "jc".

Ah. I assumed JC was John Coltrane.

Im pretty up in the air about scotty, but slightly civ is where im leaning.


And yes jc is juliets sorry.

Hmmmm

Hi Boom.

Nice honest directive there. At least it appears honest. Thanks for answering.

Linki: thanks bea. up in the air was a pretty decent movie

bea wrote:Im pretty up in the air about scotty, but slightly civ is where im leaning.


And yes jc is juliets sorry.

What do you make of Boomslang's post a few minutes ago? He had something to say about you and I'd like to know what you think of that.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:My vote is a placeholder vote.

I'm off now, I'll be back later. I'll likely vote for a low-poster when I do. I don't feel strongly about a suspicion of anyone. I'm willing to give Made the benefit of the doubt with regards to whether he bussed MacDougall or not, at least until we can see the posts from Day 1.

As for bea, I asked others what they think about her posts in this thread, but got no response. I find her entrance to this thread (and Day 2) to be genuine.

While Soneji did not vote for Mac on Day 1, he did vote for sig, a suspicion I share.

As such, I will likely vote Boomslang unless he responds, or at least demonstrates that he's paying attention. Actually, I'll go ahead and vote Boomslang now!



Later, Beach Bums.

Linki: There were eight (8) votes on Mac.

Placeholder vote, eh? And he didn't even change his vote.

What happened to voting yourself for a placeholder vote? And if you're looking to just have a vote on someone and already suspect you might be voting a low poster, what is it doing on me in the first place?!

I don't like your jib, kid.

Thats the kind of post I was expecting from Booms if he was good. So now I just need to decide where to move my vote.

Made wrote: *snip*

And further, I'd argue as a few other have that wanting to talk about the other thread isn't a sign of alignment. Infact, a baddie has no reason to talk about the other thread because they basically have access to it?
Actually, I'm gonna take this a step further: Excuse my tone, but i feel like the cases against me are kinda bull.

If you suspect of me having a weridly good memory and thing that points to my alignment, that's on you.
My question stims from information i can't know, so I asked. tbh, specific answers to that question could of even provided pretty good information because if you know what's going on in the other thread, you answer to the question has to be given with more discression that someone doesn't know.
Warning more memory incoming: the votes for Mac switched fast. It went from 5 votes on Wilgy to 5 votes on Mac in the time it took me to type my reason for voting Mac. This means that it wasn't a lost cause by the time Juliets, Myself, or LC voted. Does that clear any of us? no. But It doesn't provide a bad read of us. like Juliets said it's created a null read.

If you want to vote me for thinking the majority of the baddies are in the other thread, well fine. I think that's silly, frankly, but do you what you gotta do.
I'm not claiming that I shouldn't be questioned or taking heat, I just think the things i'm taking heat in unproportional amounts for silly reasons.

Going to reread everyone with vote records in mind and see where that leads me.

Made, regarding your first point. Trying to talk about something other than the business at hand is a distraction. Not wanting to talk about who WE are going to lynch makes it easy to redirect a lynch to last minute wagons. Especially when your premise seems to be that, oh, no baddies in this thread, they are all in the other thread.

Trying to redirect conversation away from baddie hunting to a distracting topic that has no bearing to the business at hand is suspicious to me.

Regarding your memory, you just posted an exact list from the other thread that you happened to have open in another window. So yeah, maybe I am a bit freaked out about your access to the other thread, whether it is from open tabs or memory.

I am sorry if you think I am silly. This is how I play. I pick apart little things. It works for me more often than not.