The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote:

Marmot wrote:And for my next trick, I'll do a Sockface impersonation.
Dyslexicon
Epignosis
FZ.
DrWilgy
Elohcin
insertnamehere
JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con
Luke11646
MovingPictures07
speedchuck
nutella

Does the order of the yellows matter?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.

Congrats on the loss.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.

Epignosis wrote:Frankly, if you're bad speed, I'm cool with you winning. Sorsha and Dom aren't doing shit. It'll be yet another mark on The Syndicate where civilians do absolutely nothing and lose for other people.

Hopefully they're bad though.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis clearly doesn't give a fuck who goes as long as it's not him. He's not town.

Congrats on the loss.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.

The object of the game for mafia is to not "seem scummy." She doesn't have anything that "seems scummy" because she doesn't have anything.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I also don't trust any of you all as far as I can throw you, but I don't think lynching the less-than-active Dom or Sorsha is the way to go. I see nothing in Sorsha's post history that seems that scummy, and I don't like how speedchuck is behaving this phase.

I'm considering all of you, but I still think it's Epi and speedchuck. Just look at the way they've interacted with DF and each other all game.

The object of the game for mafia is to not "seem scummy." She doesn't have anything that "seems scummy" because she doesn't have anything.

You are so fucking bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

Epignosis wrote:

speedchuck wrote:

Epignosis wrote:In the meantime, speedchuck- why are you voting me when your belief is that Sorsha is bad too and I'm throwing her under the bus?

If I vote sorsha, and she does happen to be your scummate:
Sorsha dies.
MP dies.

You easily glide to a speedchuck lynch without MP here.
Town loses.

It's also quite possible, as per your defense and MP's scumreads, that I'm wrong about Dom, that he is your teammate, and you are defending him.
Basically, I consider the Epi/Sorsha and Epi/Dom worlds to be more likely than the Sorsha/Dom. I think. I'm still prone to switching.

Again, I like you because you are talking.

Let's not vote each other. I'm not bad. I think you are, but I'm willing to lynch someone else before you.

If you aren't bad, then it would make sense to consider someone other than me.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

Took all of two minutes, didn't it?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

Took all of two minutes, didn't it?

It doesn't matter how long it took me.

If you wanted to crusade against inactives, you should have done it before a critical LYLO stage in the game.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Explain to me, Epi, how it makes sense to go with a shot in the dark with Sorsha then (since you seem to think that's what she is) OVER the person you just said above "I think you're bad, but you're talking, so whatever".

Bullshit.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I gave a full ISO of Sorsha on the other page. I analyzed her voting history. There's enough there to at least try to analyze here, and I don't think she's bad. But if she is bad, we can figure it out after we lynch someone else who's been more involved. Fuck this voting inactives shit. That's a cop-out right now, Epi, and it's so indicative of your entire attitude all game: You've gone after everyone when it was convenient to do so. You're not going after anyone with an attempt to sort them.

You're bad. Let's lynch Epi NOW.

Took all of two minutes, didn't it?

It doesn't matter how long it took me.

If you wanted to crusade against inactives, you should have done it before a critical LYLO stage in the game.

It's not a crusade against inactives. There's one inactive. If you vote me out, and Sorsha is bad, you have handed the win to somebody who didn't even friggin play. That's going to be on you.

You going to eat a hat if you're wrong again?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.

MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I cannot fathom any member of the town just going "ehhh whatever, I don't care, I just don't want to lose to the inactive scum" at this point in the game. Not even Epi.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.

Then lay off me and lynch somebody who is bad. Don't call my game "ass" when you are sucking ass right now yourself coming for me.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seriously Epi, stop preemptively blaming me. You're being a real something right now and it's pissing me off.

Then lay off me and lynch somebody who is bad. Don't call my game "ass" when you are sucking ass right now yourself coming for me.

THEN STOP BLAMING ME FOR EVERYTHING. I've come in here and was nice enough to replace. I performed all of that work trying to sort everyone out. You're not even doing anything. Your game is ass and has been all game. Deal with it.

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.

I don't care what behavior it is. You come in here all high and mighty and want to lynch me over someone with 19 posts?

Fuck out of here.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This is just like what you did earlier when you argued with G-Man, who was confirmed fucking town I might add, for seemingly no reason to sort anyone out. You keep pushing back against me using emotional manipulative statements saying "you're going to lose it all for town hurrr de durrr". That's scummy ass behavior.

I don't care what behavior it is. You come in here all high and mighty and want to lynch me over someone with 19 posts?

Fuck out of here.

Yes, I do, because I've pointed out PLENTY of interpretations of your posts and behavior that make you seem real damn bad. Sorsha doesn't have that. She's a player just like everyone else; if she has just 19 posts, then she has just 19 posts. They have content in them too to be analyzed.

You just can't stand the fact that I find you more suspicious than someone who didn't play the game. Get over it. You're suspicious.

Epignosis wrote:I'm done engaging with you. You've made up your mind. You're wrong. If you are a civilian, you will lose (again) in Lost (again).

speedchuck wrote:MP, you've got a rather strong suspicion of Epi going on. Is any of that due to metaread? If so, could you explain?
In more certain terms, is avoiding the definitely-scum-DF lynch and trying to find a different scummate instead of DF at friggin MYLO something Epi would be prone to do?

speedchuck wrote:Right, so I'll keep my defense short and then get to rereading Epi.

My defense is nothing. I had a really crappy first 3.5 days. Not gonna go and appeal to RL reasons or anything. I've barely read days 2 and 3, day one was a pile of roleplay meaninglessness, and I simply popped into the thread occasionally and popped some immediate gut reads based on the last 10/20 posts. Perhaps it was worse than useless. I've got no defense for it. Good luck pulling an actual agenda out of it, though.

Thought process on votes is likewise terrible.
D1: Had a strong feeling Llama was town. Voted on the train that wasn't him. Felt kinda guilty for pulling attention to him, even.
D2: Barely popped in. Between NotSawyer and Nutella? An easy choice.
D3: I honestly popped a vote on Quin (now you) to see if it would work. I thought the mod might change the poll. Unfortunately, I wasn't around at dayend to change it. No excuses. It's crap.
D4: Based on your role-flip, game suspicions, and DF's survival, I was positive they were scum. Anything that allows a player to survive two lynches in a game, in any way, would be broken. That lynch should have been guaranteed. Crazy (to me) that I even got close to rivaling it.

D1 and D4 should give pause to me being aligned with DF, if only slightly, but you can work through that. You can also look at my vanilla town meta, vs my non-town meta, if that helps. Really though, neither applies.
I've had a crappy few days. I'm gonna try and step my game up so I don't lose it for you guys.

Epignosis wrote:I tell you what, MP.

For better or worse, I'll do the same thing I did with G-Man. I don't think you are mafia, and I know I'm not, so this is a safe(r) approach. I will put my vote wherever you do (provided of course it's not on me). That makes your vote worth two. And if we're wrong today

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Epignosis wrote:You are not confirmed, but given the ratio of previous installments (two civilian power roles vs. one mafia power role), I'd say it's highly unlikely you are bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:You are not confirmed, but given the ratio of previous installments (two civilian power roles vs. one mafia power role), I'd say it's highly unlikely you are bad.

Oh, was my alignment not confirmed when Quin's first role card flipped? I didn't even check, I just assumed it was.

MovingPictures07 wrote:If you don't think S~V~S or Dom is mafia either, why offer it to me?