Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:56 am
Since he's dead I can break my vow of silence RE: BTSC and say Wilgy told me that if speedchuck went after G-Man he was bad.
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Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:58 am
G-man was not mentioned in my issue of the PM.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:06 am
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:58 am
Ok, here's the Last Words of Wilgy:
After his death, I sent this to all the recipients:Sent: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:16:50 pm
From: DrWilgy
Recipient: DharmaHelper thellama73 nutella Long Con Dyslexicon
I have revealed everything to SVS.
Watch how she respinds to my death. This is all O can do for you in my final moments.
Revealing this pm on the thread would devalue it.
I only got one response to that PM:Long Con wrote:Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:02 am So, S~V~S has responded to Wilgy's death:
S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:56 pm OK, what he told me was that he was an Indy with no win condition. He asked if I was bad, and told me that if the baddies targeted him, he would join the baddie team. And if I was a baddie, to NK him so he could become a baddie.
Now he appears to have been lynched without an affiliation, so I am going to assume he was being truthful about that and he actually thought I was bad.Any thoughts, with regard to Wilgy's final PM?S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:19 amAnd thanks for votes~ I don't know that I did any good, while Wilgy came up with no affiliation, his role is one I would expect to see as a civvie. But he also baddie camped it up in the thread, so hard to say what happened there. I would like to talk about it, though, since he told me who his suspects were, and while I have reason to disagree with at least one of them, at first I thought it was misdirection but maybe not.
He did seem to want to be lynched there at the end, so maybe he will be back.
DH didn't Reply All to it either, and when I asked about that, he said:DharmaHelper wrote:Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:38 amIts tough to say not knowing Wilgy's actual affiliation but SVS seems legit so far.
Llama, nutella, and Dyslexicon never acknowledged the PM in any way.DharmaHelper wrote:Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:51 pm Of course I didn't Reply All. I want to keep as tight a circle as possible this game
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:40 am
That'll be the last time I PM LC this game :P
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:00 am
I haven't done any PMing in days. And I'm sorry if you thought PMs were some sort of secret vault, but in an open BTSC game, they're evidence.
If you had said "LC, swear you will never reveal these PMs in the thread!" then maybe.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:29 am
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:51 am
Why do you have to bring Indy into it? How do you come to that conclusion, how does it help? Some Indies have to kill everyone else to win. Is that someone you'd like to vote?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:54 pm I could move off Sloonei onto someone else. I'm kinda wondering how far Speedchuck is going to take the "I do what DH Does" schtick. I had my suspicions of Dyslexicon but I thought they might be an Indie and not a mafia. IDK. Quin might be a good vote. IDK.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:16 pm
It's an INH game, I'm considering every angle. For this particular double lynch I'm focused on eliminating possible llama teammate(s), which if I believe Quin to be independent, he wouldn't be.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:51 amWhy do you have to bring Indy into it? How do you come to that conclusion, how does it help? Some Indies have to kill everyone else to win. Is that someone you'd like to vote?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:54 pm I could move off Sloonei onto someone else. I'm kinda wondering how far Speedchuck is going to take the "I do what DH Does" schtick. I had my suspicions of Dyslexicon but I thought they might be an Indie and not a mafia. IDK. Quin might be a good vote. IDK.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:51 pm
Can you tell me more about how you came to the "Independent" conclusion for Quin? What player traits and gameplay make you believe someone is Indy?
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:44 pm
The frequency with which Dyslexicon dropped and picked up suspicions early in the game. Breeze on the wind type shit. No agenda.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:48 pm
If I were Indy in a closed setup game, I would claim it. Indy with a 'survival' win-con. That's a really nice place to be. Quin said he's not Indy though.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:50 pm
OK.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:54 pm
You took responsibility for the Llama lynch, and you want that to give us Civ vibes about you, right? Remind me how you were responsible.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:57 pm
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:47 pm
Does anybody have a compelling argument as to why I should move my vote off of SVS? I'll be at work for the last few hours of this phase, so I don't have much time to finalize my vote.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:54 pm
Well, something like that:
That's actually what I was referring to.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmI mean I caught Llama like days before anyone else so.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:35 pmI would like a little more effort from you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pm Phase 2 in Sherlock Mafia was "There are no more teams it is LMS now"
FWIW
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:56 pm
I don't see anywhere within that statement that says I'm taking credit for the llama lynch or expect you to believe I'm civ because llama got lynched.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:54 pm Well, something like that:
That's actually what I was referring to.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmI mean I caught Llama like days before anyone else so.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:35 pmI would like a little more effort from you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pm Phase 2 in Sherlock Mafia was "There are no more teams it is LMS now"
FWIW
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:01 pm
Ok fine. Why should I believe you're Civ?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:56 pmI don't see anywhere within that statement that says I'm taking credit for the llama lynch or expect you to believe I'm civ because llama got lynched.Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:54 pm Well, something like that:
That's actually what I was referring to.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:37 pmI mean I caught Llama like days before anyone else so.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:35 pmI would like a little more effort from you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:33 pm Phase 2 in Sherlock Mafia was "There are no more teams it is LMS now"
FWIW
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:02 pm
Sloonei had a similar impression about you:
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:15 pmThere does seem to be a part of you that is coasting off the goodwill you built up from lynching llama. You don't seem to have a confident read on who his teammates might be though. Does this worry you at all?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:13 pmCool.speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:05 pmLaziness.
Buddying.
Not voting for Llama even when DH did.
DH is about halfway down my list because all he's done to make himself look town is go after Llama. Bussing is pretty common where I come from. The mafia kills in this game have been quality-of-life kills. Kills that make the game more talkative, better. DH is having fun, I might could see him doing this (until phase 2 starts). It doesn't seem like anyone has genuinely put up any investigating toward DH.
Still, the llama push is pretty convincing. Good push I guess. Of course, Llama didn't die when lynched...
Anyway, there's that. And good job keeping me from following you, DH. I'm lazy and in fun mode, but not to the point of self-voting.
As for you, sloonei, I thought epic made some decent points, but I'm still not putting you much lower than SVS or Quin. The bottom three on my list are about even, and are very lazily non-controversial. I like things that way.
And you guy have an auto-rainbow tool? That's fantastic!
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:05 pm
Why shouldn't you believe I'm civ?
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:11 pm
I thought your S~V~S - Llama interactions were all right. You talked about a "repeated soft defense" in her earlier quoted posts but this first one isn't. Just the "BOTD" for Llama due to his travelling.
You reference a possible shifting of focus away from Llama by S~V~S, when she brought forth that Wilgy thing. If she's on Llama's team, then that could have been a successful ploy, but Wilgy was really the originator of it... like, his PM to her was confirmed real, unless I'm remembering wrong.
I thought the best point you had was her Llama vote. Llama was already a goner, and she just kind of whipped in with "I agree with the Llama case" and a vote. That's certainly not the most inspiring thing I've ever seen.
I felt like your Quin case was the more eyebrow-raising of the two.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:28 pm
I am probably going to be voting for Quin. I haven't seen anything to make me think I was wrong about Dyslexicon, and thellama73's blatant defense is the kind of fast and loose thing he'd do.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:02 pm
Seems like Quin's a goner. I'd focus on the #2
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:09 pm
Quin is the only other player I feel I have a sufficient enough case against to justify a vote. I think I'll leave it on SVS, as she is my preferred second choice.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:58 pm
i am honestly feeling so attacked right now
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:00 pm
Self-pres doesn't seem to be an option for me at the moment. So, who am I taking down with me? My vote is still in the wind.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:02 pm
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:03 pm
It seems so many people are anti-SVS, but SVS only has one vote. This confuses me. It is a not-good feeling.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:25 pm
Actually, I am going to vote for SVS... Quin would be my vote, but he seems to be covered.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:55 pm
Interesting, and saucy.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 pm
Starting to feel pretty bad about Long Con but I guess we'll see.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:33 pm
Nothing he has done since the beginning has made me believe he is a civilian. I probably should have been killed Night 3, but that would have exposed Long Con. Or maybe he's comfortable keeping me around since I'm holding up my end of the deal.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 pm Starting to feel pretty bad about Long Con but I guess we'll see.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pm
Did I sub in to almost immediately bus Long Con?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:33 pmNothing he has done since the beginning has made me believe he is a civilian. I probably should have been killed Night 3, but that would have exposed Long Con. Or maybe he's comfortable keeping me around since I'm holding up my end of the deal.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 pm Starting to feel pretty bad about Long Con but I guess we'll see.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 pm
Quin is most assuredly getting my vote. Instead of fighting or working toward a civilian win condition, he asked who he's taking down with him.
Hopefully your teammate.
Hopefully your teammate.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 pm
I don't know. Did you?Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pmDid I sub in to almost immediately bus Long Con?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:33 pmNothing he has done since the beginning has made me believe he is a civilian. I probably should have been killed Night 3, but that would have exposed Long Con. Or maybe he's comfortable keeping me around since I'm holding up my end of the deal.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 pm Starting to feel pretty bad about Long Con but I guess we'll see.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:47 pm
No.Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:39 pmI don't know. Did you?Quin wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:37 pmDid I sub in to almost immediately bus Long Con?Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:33 pmNothing he has done since the beginning has made me believe he is a civilian. I probably should have been killed Night 3, but that would have exposed Long Con. Or maybe he's comfortable keeping me around since I'm holding up my end of the deal.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:06 pm Starting to feel pretty bad about Long Con but I guess we'll see.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:47 pm
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:56 pm
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:57 pm
Voted Sloonei.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:01 pm
a 3 way tie in a two person lynch
Epignosis you madman
Epignosis you madman
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:04 pm
A FOUR WAY TIE
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:05 pm
I just wanna congratulate my fellow Quin voters.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got 'em
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got 'em
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:09 pm
Hey epi wanna switch to long don? Or would you be more comfy with sloonei?
My Wi-Fi is down again and it's frustrating but I will be home tomorrow. I can't do ctap on phone, but I can vote. I can help the tie, but I'll defer to your judgement.
Whatdoyouthimk?
My Wi-Fi is down again and it's frustrating but I will be home tomorrow. I can't do ctap on phone, but I can vote. I can help the tie, but I'll defer to your judgement.
Whatdoyouthimk?
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:09 pm
Madman? No.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:01 pm a 3 way tie in a two person lynch
Epignosis you madman
I don't trust Sloonei or Long Con. I don't distrust S~V~S, although I do struggle to understand why she isn't being helpful. Given that Wilgy tried to fish a kill out of her, and he didn't get one, I'd say that makes S~V~S look pretty good.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:10 pm
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrDharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:05 pm I just wanna congratulate my fellow Quin voters.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we got 'em
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:11 pm
I'd say your vote is safest on Quin.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:09 pm Hey epi wanna switch to long don? Or would you be more comfy with sloonei?
My Wi-Fi is down again and it's frustrating but I will be home tomorrow. I can't do ctap on phone, but I can vote. I can help the tie, but I'll defer to your judgement.
Whatdoyouthimk?
If your Internet is sketchy, I wouldn't worry too much about it unless you feel differently about Quin.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:12 pm
If you're asking between S~V~S and Sloonei, I would prefer you voted Sloonei.
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:12 pm
if my sister was still alive i know she'd be on my side
Re: Blue Velvet Mafia {DAY 4}
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:13 pm
Works for me.
See you guys tomorrow. With actual internet access.
Linki: nah, I don't want to kill svs today.
See you guys tomorrow. With actual internet access.
Linki: nah, I don't want to kill svs today.