The Syndicate

Not the greatest of optics there. Who was the other person?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:35 pm Not the greatest of optics there. Who was the other person?

Quin.

Say what you're gonna say cuz I can't wait to tear into this real bad point you're about to make.

Does epi trust me now?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:42 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:35 pm Not the greatest of optics there. Who was the other person?

Quin.

Say what you're gonna say cuz I can't wait to tear into this real bad point you're about to make.

Well, Quin was town. And SVS was scum.

So were you scum, this would be a truth and a lie throw-off dealie, dissociating yourself with a townie and a scummie. Not the greatest of optics.
If you're town, it would just be an honest statement about the state of the game.

Is that about right, or am I just staying up too late?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:18 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:42 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:35 pm Not the greatest of optics there. Who was the other person?

Quin.

Say what you're gonna say cuz I can't wait to tear into this real bad point you're about to make.

Well, Quin was town. And SVS was scum.

So were you scum, this would be a truth and a lie throw-off dealie, dissociating yourself with a townie and a scummie. Not the greatest of optics.
If you're town, it would just be an honest statement about the state of the game.

Is that about right, or am I just staying up too late?

I wouldn't think so hard about it Speedchuck.

Huh. Alright then.

Good work, Sloon. RIP Quin, sorry I didn't believe in you.

Holy shit, the Mutiny option has been upgraded! "Mutiny Opportunity for 3" instead of just "Mutiny for 3". Ooh la la!

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:57 am Holy shit, the Mutiny option has been upgraded! "Mutiny Opportunity for 3" instead of just "Mutiny for 3". Ooh la la!

I decided to roll out the red carpet.

Here's how I feel about the night poll:


Full Role List Reveal - I prefer open games anyway
Everyone Has 2 Votes On Day 5 - kinda cool I guess. Not super-useful like lynching two people, but it does give more opportunity for vote analysis
D5 Public Rankings Voting - this seemed kind of cool, but not my first choice
D5 Will Be A Private Vote - I would like to hear good reasons for this as a choice
During N5, There Will Be A Public Vote To Restrict BTSC For One Player - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
D5 BTSC Blackout - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
N5 BTSC Blackout - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
Mutiny Opportunity for 3 - no. Sorry INH, but I'd rather stay the course

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:17 am Here's how I feel about the night poll:


Full Role List Reveal - I prefer open games anyway
Everyone Has 2 Votes On Day 5 - kinda cool I guess. Not super-useful like lynching two people, but it does give more opportunity for vote analysis
D5 Public Rankings Voting - this seemed kind of cool, but not my first choice
D5 Will Be A Private Vote - I would like to hear good reasons for this as a choice
During N5, There Will Be A Public Vote To Restrict BTSC For One Player - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
D5 BTSC Blackout - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
N5 BTSC Blackout - Restrict BTSC = boring and pointless
Mutiny Opportunity for 3 - no. Sorry INH, but I'd rather stay the course

My vote reflects the relative amount of fucks I give.

In retrospect SVS flipping bad confirms an early game concern I had, which I would be glad to explain only if asked.

At any rate, I will provide now my reasoning behind my vote for this poll. I think Full Role Lists is going to win so I'm voting for the next coolest option.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:50 pm Does epi trust me now?

No.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:50 pm Does epi trust me now?

No.

Why not?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:50 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:23 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:50 pm Does epi trust me now?

No.

Why not?

I don't credit anyone with lynching an inactive or semi-inactive.

I will read through your posts if I live and give you a fair shake though.

Man that poll time has been sliding all game, huh guys?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:48 am Man that poll time has been sliding all game, huh guys?

If it's okay with everyone, I can end the night an hour early.

I'm just ball bustin'. The night ends when it ends.

Don't everybody all pipe up at once fam.

Here we fuckin' go lads.

DAY 5

151. EXT. FRANK'S CAR/BEAUMONT HOUSE - NIGHT

BANG.

Jeffrey fires one last bullet into Paul's body. His hands are shaking, barely able to keep hold of the gun, and his eyes are red and watering.

Raymond still has Aunt Barbara's blood all over him, and a switchblade in his hand. Dorothy's still inside the car, at the wheel, horrified at the grisly display of four dead bodies before her.

Jeffrey quickly whirls around, aiming the gun at Raymond now.


He begins moving towards the car.


Raymond starts moving towards Jeffrey.


Jeffrey has one hand on the car door, and the other pointing a gun at Raymond, who is a couple yards away, and still slowly advancing.


Raymond begins to grin.

Jeffrey pulls the trigger.

Click.

Click-click-click-click.

Raymond begins to laugh, and Jeffrey's expression turns into one of horror.


Lifting the switchblade up, Raymond throws it in the exact same way Jeffrey used to kill Frank.

THWACK.

It lands directly into Jeffrey's chest.


He collapses to the ground.


Dorothy begins to wail incoherently.

Raymond walks over and pulls the switchblade out of Jeffrey's chest.


He plunges the blade into Jeffrey's head.


Dorothy screams even louder.

Raymond leaves the knife where it is, and climbs inside the car.


He starts the engine and floors it.

Timmer has been killed. He was Jeffrey Beaumont, a member of Dorothy's team.

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to vote in the poll.

CIVILIANS (11)

Jeffrey Beaumont - Either a detective or a pervert. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Beaumont. Bad boy to Dorothy Vallens. Searches for Frank Booth every night. If he finds him, Frank dies. When he is alive, Frank Booth can only be killed by him. If Red Cedar wins the D0 poll, your vote counts for double in the Night Event Polls.

Sandy Williams - Nice girl. High school student. Fond of mysteries. Daughter to Det. Williams and Mrs. Williams. Girlfriend to Mike. Friend of Jeffrey. Vanilla civ.

Mrs. Williams - Remarkably composed woman. Sandy's mother. Husband to Det. Williams. Vanilla civ.

Detective John Williams - His job, as a detective for the Lumberton PD, is great. And horrible too. Husband to Mrs. Williams. Father to Sandy. Partner of Det. Gordon. Vanilla civ.

Mrs. Beaumont - Caring mother to Jeffrey. Shouldn't ask so many questions. Wife of Tom Beaumont. Sister to Aunt Barbara. Vanilla civ.

Aunt Barbara - Bit of a nag. Knows not to go near Lincoln Street. Sister of Mrs. Beaumont. Aunt of Jeffrey. Vanilla civ.

Mike - High school quarterback, and big man on campus. Can be a bit of a douche, but knows when to dial it down. Boyfriend of Sandy. Vanilla civ.

Don Vallens - Van Gogh. Captive of Frank Booth. Husband to Dorothy Vallens. Vanilla civ.

Detective T.R. Gordon - Yellow man. Works for the Lumberton Police Department. Has been an undercover operative inside Frank Booth's organization. Partners with Det. John Williams. Vanilla civ.

Little Donny - 4-year old son of Dorothy and Don Vallens. Has a nifty spinning hat. Captive of Frank Booth, and currently being held by Ben. Vanilla civ.

Sparky the Dog - A dog. That's it. You love hoses and sprinklers, and are prepared to climb over dying humans to get to them. Vanilla civ.

MAFIA (3)

Frank Booth - A very dangerous man. He'll fuck anything that moves. Call him Daddy, shithead. While Jeffrey Beaumont is alive, can only be killed by him. Once Jeffrey is dead, Frank is no longer immune to lynches or NKs. Sends a love letter every night. You know what a love letter is, fucker? It's a bullet from a fuckin' gun, fucker. If he dies, the kill passes to his associates. If Sycamore Maple wins the D0 poll, your vote counts for double in the Night Event Polls.

Ben - One goddamn suave fuck. Knows the Candy Colored Clown. Business associate of Frank Booth. Vanilla baddie.

Paul - *CLAP* He's Paul. He's been to Pussy Heaven. Henchman to Frank Booth. Vanilla baddie.

INDEPENDENT (1)

Dorothy Vallens - Singer for the Slow Club. Her husband and child were taken from her by Frank Booth. Jeffrey Beaumont is her bad boy. Every night, she searches for the three of them. If she finds them, they have the option of joining her and forming a third, independent team. This team can only win the game if it outnumbers the civilians, and all of Frank Booth's organization have been eliminated. Dorothy can win no other way. If Douglas Firs wins the D0 poll, your vote counts for double in the Night Event Polls.

Night 4:

I feel like voting for Epignosis.

The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

You don't think chuck, the guy who has been acting like a dog all game, is the dog role?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Because fuck you that's why not.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:02 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

You don't think chuck, the guy who has been acting like a dog all game, is the dog role?

Maybe?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Because fuck you that's why not.

Why did you vote for me yesterday?

Why is speedchuck the best vote, nutella?

Rico = Sandy Williams: Civ
G-Man = Mrs. Williams: Civ
Wilgy = Detective John Williams: Civ
Spacedaisy = Mrs. Beaumont: Civ
Quin = Aunt Barbara: Civ
Sprityo = Little Donny: Civ/Possible 3p recruit
Timmer = Jeffrey Beaumont - civ->3P scum leader killer and 3P recruit
Llama = Frank Booth: Scum leader: Civ
SVS = Paul: Scum

Sparky the Dog: Civ
Mike: Civ
Detective T.R. Gordon: Civ
Don Vallens: Civ/possible 3P recruit

Ben: Scum

Dorothy Vallens: 3P recruiter

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:12 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Because fuck you that's why not.

Why did you vote for me yesterday?

Cuz it is increasingly likely you're the last of the mafia.

Up to half of the game could be non-town right now

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:12 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Because fuck you that's why not.

Why did you vote for me yesterday?

Cuz it is increasingly likely you're the last of the mafia.

Walk me through this thought process.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:19 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:12 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:05 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:03 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:51 pm I feel like voting for Epignosis.

Why? I don't. He's Mike; that role's existence is confirmed now.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:56 pm The independent throws a wrinkle into my reads. Hm.

Indeed. This is all very interesting.

But guess what? I think you, speedchuck, are the last member of the mafia.

because i am still unaware of his role claiming shenanigans. If he has a confirmed role then voting for him is silly. But the vote was just a way of showing that I'm awaiting his re-read of my posts. I'll gonfor uh DharmaHelper then. Because why not?

Because fuck you that's why not.

Why did you vote for me yesterday?

Cuz it is increasingly likely you're the last of the mafia.

Walk me through this thought process.

I know who I am and strongly suspect I know who some of the other players are, and of the players I don't know or strongly suspect sits you.

Who is everybody else?

13. No copy and pasting or screenshotting my PMs to you. Do not use any part of my role PMs as supposed verification for your roleclaims. People have to take you at your word when you claim your role, no using me as a shield.

I'd ask everyone to keep this rule in mind.

Changed vote to Long Con, but I'm waffling quite a bit between him, Sloonei, and speedchuck.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:28 pm Who is everybody else?

Epi is probably Mike
Speedchuck is probably the Dog
Long Con is likely not mafia since he thought the game was LMS and his PM would have, I assume, included the names of his teammates as well as their names in the CC: field so I doublt he'd miss that.
I know I'm a civ.

Tbh that leaves you and Nutella, don't it.

I'm leaning long con as independent. For obvious reasons.

I could say Sloon is the mafia, and hope that no recruitment has happened. That would probably be too clean.

RIPIWYG Phase 2 or 3 or any phase. +

Long Con didn't vote Douglas Fir.

Or Maples.

I don't understand that man.

Sneak Peek at Phase 2:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:00 pm I'm leaning long con as independent. For obvious reasons.

I could say Sloon is the mafia, and hope that no recruitment has happened. That would probably be too clean.

I could see this being the case. It would explain LC's apparent PM mistake.

LC as indie and sloonei as mafia (rather than speedchuck assuming he's the dog) makes sense.

" Dorothy Vallens - Singer for the Slow Club. Her husband and child were taken from her by Frank Booth. Jeffrey Beaumont is her bad boy. Every night, she searches for the three of them. If she finds them, they have the option of joining her and forming a third, independent team. This team can only win the game if it outnumbers the civilians, and all of Frank Booth's organization have been eliminated. Dorothy can win no other way. If Douglas Firs wins the D0 poll, your vote counts for double in the Night Event Polls."

"The three of them."

Which three? Her husband? Child? Booth? Beaumont?