The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:06 pm LC, the best thing for you to do is quit the act, join the rest of us in being totally open, and just go along with DH's plan as it offers you the best chance at a win.

Wrong. The best thing for you to do is join the act, because it's funny. What exactly would you have me do differently? Vote for someone else? I... just... can't vote for Mutiny yet because the poll doesn't exist. So I do not understand what you're asking of me here.

And listen to both of you, "Epi claimed Mike in PM long ago, so it's true". Guess what, the baddies got fakeclaims. I claimed Dr Gynde to Dyslexicon at the outset of the game in a PM. If the Role List reveal happened the way it should have, then the fakeclaims would have been included. Instead, it shut down any further Mafia gaming and it's only due to this mutiny thing that the game is still going.

If Dr Gynde had been in that Role List reveal, then we would all be voting for Epignosis today, I promise you that. So don't get all smug and self-assured with a roleclaim by PM, because next time it happens, you probably won't have a surprise Role List reveal to show you how razor-thin your assumptions actually are.

No we wouldn't.

Epi appealed to speedchuck and I via PM after DH and Nutella publicly declared their intentions. I can't picture Epi doing something like this unless he's 100% earnest about it. That is why I'm voting for Long Con. Plus roleclaim stuff.

Ignoring that, you're still going along with the 3P strategy. If you were really Civ, you'd want to work with Civs and take out a 3P to make this game numerically improbable for mafia to win.

Epignosis appealed to me privately via PM telling me he thinks Sloonei is the last mafia and that we should lynch him ASAP

Sloonei... you would have been the kill tonight, after we lynched Epi. Only because you did so well with the S~V~S case. Pure Civ right there... gotta go.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:51 pm Epi appealed to speedchuck and I via PM after DH and Nutella publicly declared their intentions. I can't picture Epi doing something like this unless he's 100% earnest about it. That is why I'm voting for Long Con. Plus roleclaim stuff.

"Appealed" how? Telling you he's Civ and his name is Mike?

To be totally fair I did warn you guys against voting for the role reveal option.

So the reason for the odd kill choices were:

LLama and SVS were mafia
Long Con was Mafia
I asked not to be killed until Phase 2
Killing Epi would have put too big a target on the only active mafia

Funny.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:00 pm Epignosis appealed to me privately via PM telling me he thinks Sloonei is the last mafia and that we should lynch him ASAP

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:03 pm To be totally fair I did warn you guys against voting for the role reveal option.

I was obviously way too optimistic about how it would go.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:08 pm So the reason for the odd kill choices were:

LLama and SVS were mafia
Long Con was Mafia
I asked not to be killed until Phase 2
Killing Epi would have put too big a target on the only active mafia

Funny.

I try not to kill Epi when I'm Mafia, more fun to try and lynch him.

Epignosis has time to appeal to people privately via PM but not enough time to watch the seminal classic Quick Change

How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.

Should I choose heads or tails?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:09 pm How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.

And dude.... you know you can always count on me to go for the win via a zany plan.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:23 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:09 pm How fucking wild would it be if this plan worked holy shit.

And dude.... you know you can always count on me to go for the win via a zany plan.

My preciousssss

Wouldn't it have made more sense to not try and lynch LC?

I mean now I'll either end up with the kill and a 50% chance to win or a mutiny and a 100% chance to win.

NIGHT 5

154. INT. STAIRS AND LANDING - BEN'S APARTMENT - NIGHT

Raymond clutches a case of Pabst Blue Ribbon. Next to him is Dorothy, standing perfectly still, and looking straight ahead. Her eyes are dead. All the fight has left her.

They're in front of a dingy apartment, with stained, rusted walls. Raymond steps up close to Dorothy.

He steps back, and starts banging on the door.

A tall, slender man with a smoking jacket and a powdered face opens the door. It's BEN. His voice is effeminate, disarming, and ever so threatening.

155. INT. BEN'S APARTMENT - NIGHT

The apartment is very large. All the furniture is over-stuffed. In the room there is a very much over-weight WOMAN dressed in black and a greasy-looking COUPLE. On the couch, a YOUNG WOMAN plays with a large doll.

Raymond sits down, while Dorothy remains on her feet, still staring into the distance.


The large woman re-appears with glasses.

Ben takes the glasses, and starts pouring out the Pabst Blue Ribbon.


Her sudden interjection, in fact, her first sign of life in the entire conversation, comes as a slight shock to both me.


Ben sighs.

The young woman opens up a door, and Dorothy rushes inside.

Raymond tenses.


Raymond angrily stands up.

Ben smiles.


Raymond sits back down, still fuming. The YOUNG WOMAN creeps behind him.


The young woman gets closer and closer.

BANG.

The young woman puts up her smoking gun.

Bits of Raymond flow around the carpet. His corpse slouches off the seat.

Ben sighs, and sips his beer.


Epignosis has been killed. He was Mike, a vanilla civilian.

Now it's dark.

You have 24 hours to send in night actions, and to vote in the event poll.

Lets light this fuckin' candle.

Lynched Epignosis as a Civilian. Checking it off my to-do list for this game. Pleased.

Day 5:

You're welcome INH.

Let's do this. Good luck to me or sloonei, whichever survives the night. Hope you get into the final three and trounce the fourth.

Tell ya what: Kill sloonei and not me, and I'll make sure the mutiny goes through if I get in, rather than screwing the game over for you, LC.

No you should for sure tank the mutiny.

But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:50 pm But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!

The event will happen regardless.

Three people who chose the event will be given a choice to mutiny. If all 3 accept, a mutiny occurs.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:50 pm But with nut, DH, and myself voting Mutiny, it will go through without your help, right?

The thing is, I don't really know how it works. When it wins, does it randomly go to either me, or the surviving Civ? I don't know!

When it wins tonight, it becomes an option tomorrow. ANYONE who opts in tomorrow gets in. Three of those that opted in are randomly selected. If all 3 say yes, mutiny happens.

If I get in, I promise to say yes. Give sloonei the 3/4 chance of going in, and he might say no. I swear, I will allow the mutiny through.

So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 pm So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?

The purpose of the mutiny was because the mafia and the independent faction can't win together as is.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 pm So... can I kill no one, and Mutiny with speed and sloon, and we all win?

I think so, but that's if the odds magically give us the mutiny. It would choose three of us out of 5. 1 in ten chance of any particular team. Trust me, I'm a math person.

No matter what happens, whoever is left tomorrow gets to randomly opt in to win.

Reminder: The technical realignment won't take place till after tomorrow's lynch as well.

No no... you misunderstand. I meant all three of us join you and nutella on Team Mutiny, and five players win. I understand wrong?

DH, I'm not considering betraying you, I am just trying to get a comprehensive understanding.

Or you could kill one of them and improve your odds of being mutinous by a significant margin.


Linki: i don't know if that would work.

LC if you kill one of the civs tonight and we lynch the remaining civ tomorrow, then you, me, and Nutella will automatically be chosen for mutiny and enter the next night technically on opposite teams but once we confirm mutiny we win.

Oh, the kill is already sent in.

I was considering changing it to a no-kill, if the three of us could join your team and win. Sounds like there's too much uncertainty involved, so I'll kill one S-name, and we will lynch the other S-name tomorrow.

Different mutiny teams, LC.

And yeah, DH is correct. The kill and lynch can just decide arbitrarily who wins.

Welp. GG. I tried.

This is so silly.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 pm Different mutiny teams, LC.

Oooooohhhhhhh..... ok I see.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:24 pm Welp. GG. I tried.

This is so silly.

I'd be fine with ending the game unless there are unknown factors in play.

I want to see how this mutiny thing plays out

What a cool and good plan. I am like a mafia python, coiled up and waiting for my moment to strike and then I wrap my prey up and jab 'em with my poison teeth.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:13 am But I'm still dead? Doesn't seem like a great plan to me if I'm still dead

RIP Fam.

Plan happened after you kicked it.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:40 pmLong Con is likely not mafia since he thought the game was LMS and his PM would have, I assume, included the names of his teammates as well as their names in the CC: field so I doubt he'd miss that.

Very clever and also something you'll never be able to pull off ever again.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:09 am Very clever and also something you'll never be able to pull off ever again.

If I get this win, I won't need to.

It was actually a combination of a true misunderstanding of the game, and an accidental "obvious Civ slip" over on HCRealms that I did in my last game there. My first post in that game made it (embarrassingly) obvious that I had a Civ role PM and also didn't know if it was Civ or bad.

We could end night phase early, get this over with.