The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:11 pm**

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Greater Idea Mafia Game, the game taken from the MafiaWiki which I'm bringing to this forum today!

Players:

1- Ricochet
2- Spacedaisy
3- MovingPictures07
4- JaggedJimmyJay
5- Epignosis
6- Sprityo
7- Elohcin

Rules:

- Votes are changeable and self-voting is allowed.
- Voting is not mandatory, but posting it. Players wh are inactive for more than one day may be modkilled.
- Role revealing and info dumping are allowed.
- Double targetting is not allowed.
- Players win along with their faction, dead or alive.
- Day phases are 20 minutes and night phases are 10 minutes. Day 0 will be 10 minutes. Please be aware this may change depending on circumstances.
- All roles are revealed upon death.
- Do not communicate with any players about this game outside the game thread, unless given explicit permission by your role. I will provide you with a BTSC channel if that is the case.
- All game posts should be posted in white. Off-topic posts should be posted in green. Dead posts should be posted in red. Non-players should post in blue. I will be using this colour.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:15 pm**

- Town: The uninformed majority. Members of town win the game when they eliminate every scum faction, serial killer, cult, and any role that poses a threat to their existance, or when it is impossible for that not to happen.

- Mafia: The first baddie faction. Mafia wins the game when they eliminate every faction other than themselves, or when it is impossible for that not to happen. They are allowed to kill once per night. Keep in mind that Mafia in this game is the name of one specific faction. Evil players as a whole are called scum.

- Werewolves: The second scum faction. Werewolves function the same way as the Mafia, also having one faction kill per night. But they may have different roles to pick from.

- Aliens: The third scum faction. Aliens also win the game when they eliminate every other faction in the game. But the fundamental difference is that each alien player can only kill once in the game. To balance this restriction, the alien faction automatically wins any ties that happen at the endgame.

- Independents: Any players who do not belong to specific factions. Those include Serial Killers, Cults and any other roles. They have specific winning conditions.

Be aware that there may be alignment changing roles in this game, including, but not limited to, cults.

Every role that can possibly be in the game can be found in this link:

http://bit.ly/2haXUMb

If you have any questions about any specific role, feel free to ask me, by PM or in the thread.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:23 pm**

List of Discarded Roles

1- Ricochet - Jack of All Trades (44)
2- Spacedaisy - Mafia 1-shot Dayvig (96)
3- MovingPictures07 - Vanilla Townie (9)
4- JaggedJimmyJay - Alien Prober (122)
5- Epignosis - Evangelistic Townie (50)
6- Sprityo - Vengeful Townie (45)
7- Elohcin - Mafia 1-shot Governor (95)

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm**

Prologue

It was a beautiful city. A normal one, seemingly, for those who would be new to it. But only those who lived in it knew the nightmare that was that place. Because that city was the stage of a war between three factions: the local mob, who wanted to control all the crime in the city; a clan of werewolves seeking human flesh; and even an alien invasion. That war took more innocent lives every day.

Until one day, the people of the city decided this had to stop. They formed a mob, and went to war for their home. But, unknown to them, members of the three factions had infiltrated that mob. And so, they would have to figure out who to trust, in order to defeat the three factions and save their city.

But first, they had to figure out who killed one of the members of their group.

Dragon D. Luffy (Vanilla Townie - 0) was found dead.

DAY 0 BEGINS!

You may now post.

[mention]MovingPictures07[/mention]
[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]
[mention]Epignosis[/mention]
[mention]Elohcin[/mention]
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention]
[mention]Ricochet[/mention]
[mention]sprityo[/mention]

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm**

Among those who we know for sure rejected a civilian role:

Rico rejected strong role

MP rejected weak role

Epi rejected weak role

sprityo rejected decent role

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm**

Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:28 pm**

I'm stupid this is day 0 not 1.

Votes are locked for the next 10 min.

Also I totally ripped off the prologue from my first greater idea game at NF

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm**

the trick is JJJ had two scum roles and picked the better of the two

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm**

We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm**

I turned it down in favor of a government job.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm the trick is JJJ had two scum roles and picked the better of the two

To be honest I didn't even look at the scum role other than to see that it was not blue. I wanted to be a civilian. I've been evil enough lately.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?

I also remember what happened the last time you played a burglary. What's your point?

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm**

What if everyone rejected all the mafia rolea that they were proposed? We could all be town? This is weird.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm the trick is JJJ had two scum roles and picked the better of the two
To be honest I didn't even look at the scum role other than to see that it was not blue. I wanted to be a civilian. I've been evil enough lately.

nonsense

on that note, the only person im willing to clear is Eloh since she discarded a really good role

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm the trick is JJJ had two scum roles and picked the better of the two
To be honest I didn't even look at the scum role other than to see that it was not blue. I wanted to be a civilian. I've been evil enough lately.
nonsense

on that note, the only person im willing to clear is Eloh since she discarded a really good role

Why would that clear her? The same scenario you just stuck to me can still apply if her only options were both bad.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm**

MP hasn't posted yet. Scum.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm**

Poor DDL.

Yay burglary! :yay:

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:33 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm What if everyone rejected all the mafia rolea that they were proposed? We could all be town? This is weird.

This pleases me. I'm not lynching Elohcin today.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Among those who we know for sure rejected a civilian role:

Rico rejected strong role

MP rejected weak role

Epi rejected weak role

sprityo rejected decent role

Do you think it's more likely -- if players were given the option of one town role and one mafia role -- that the town role would be weak/vanilla or power?

This question goes for anyone.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:34 pm**

Tbh, I didn't realize I had turned down a scum role. I didn't even think to look if it were scum. I would have picked to be mafia if I knew I had the opportunity.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:34 pm**

That said, as much as I would love to hunt based on information (like which role everyone threw out and guessing what that means their other role was), I'm not sure anything other than blind shots in the dark could come of it.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:34 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:30 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm the trick is JJJ had two scum roles and picked the better of the two
To be honest I didn't even look at the scum role other than to see that it was not blue. I wanted to be a civilian. I've been evil enough lately.
nonsense

on that note, the only person im willing to clear is Eloh since she discarded a really good role
Why would that clear her? The same scenario you just stuck to me can still apply if her only options were both bad.

but power speaking, your discarded role isnt the strongest

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.

That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm**

From the sign up thread:

Some information: I can't host the game if there are more than 80% or less than 40% civ/town roles.

In that case I'll have to draw them again. I promise I'll do it as fast as possible.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.

I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?

I do think it's important to keep a strong eye on Jay in any game, especially a burglary (I still have PTSD from the last one), but I'm not convinced we should vote him out this time just yet. Give it a few more minutes.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm What if everyone rejected all the mafia rolea that they were proposed? We could all be town? This is weird.

That's impossible.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?
I do think it's important to keep a strong eye on Jay in any game, especially a burglary (I still have PTSD from the last one), but I'm not convinced we should vote him out this time just yet. Give it a few more minutes.

No shit you're "not convinced" "just yet". We're like eight minutes into Day 0. Give me a read immediately.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm MP hasn't posted yet. Scum.

I'm here! Just was caught up working.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm**

Btw Rico said he'd miss the first couple minutes, I deleted his post because I wasnt done making the thread. He probably didnt notice.

(yes I'm a verbose host. sorry cant help it)

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm**

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/postin ... 9&p=352888

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm**

whoops

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:37 pm Ricochet was lynched. He was a vanilla civilian.

It is now Night 2.

I'll try to keep deadlines specific to the minute that I post the latest host post from now on. So night will end at 8:47 AEST.

there we go

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Assertion:

If Epi had a civ or non-civ decision, he is by nature more likely to select the latter. He's the same guy who sided with the Reapers immediately after their strongest member was lynched.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:39 pm**

I think Daisy would have easily chosen to be town instead of mafia given the chance, but nonetheless I think it'd be tough for anyone to not be a mafia-aligned Dayvig (I mean, come on), so seeing that she rejected an awesome mafia power role makes me feel good enough about her.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:39 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?
I do think it's important to keep a strong eye on Jay in any game, especially a burglary (I still have PTSD from the last one), but I'm not convinced we should vote him out this time just yet. Give it a few more minutes.
No shit you're "not convinced" "just yet". We're like eight minutes into Day 0. Give me a read immediately.

Well, I just gave you one about Daisy (town GTH), and you and Elo seem OK for me at the moment as well -- genuine GTH.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

So according to DDLs post and him not redistributing rolea, we have some civ and some mafia. But we just don't know how many.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Assertion:

If Epi had a civ or non-civ decision, he is by nature more likely to select the latter. He's the same guy who sided with the Reapers immediately after their strongest member was lynched.

If.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

wolves are JaggedJimmyJay and sprityo

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Assertion:

If Epi had a civ or non-civ decision, he is by nature more likely to select the latter. He's the same guy who sided with the Reapers immediately after their strongest member was lynched.

I think I agree with that. Might depend on the power of each role though.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.
That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?

Vanilla townie is my favorite role in Mafia, and yet I'd still never select it over a power role. That's a willful reduction of one's own win-chance. Do you believe Rico would do that?

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm**

switching to mobile, driving

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:41 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Assertion:

If Epi had a civ or non-civ decision, he is by nature more likely to select the latter. He's the same guy who sided with the Reapers immediately after their strongest member was lynched.
If.

Pointless tiny posts, I'm ready to lynch you.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:41 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm So according to DDLs post and him not redistributing rolea, we have some civ and some mafia. But we just don't know how many.

I would guess 5 v. 2 at worst case scenario. Perhaps 6 v. 1 but that seems less likely.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm**

disregard, im here to stay

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm**

The game details stipulate that there's no guarantee of balance, so I think the game could be literally anything. There are meant to be four factions, so I don't know if it was aligned to facilitate that (but it still cannot be wholly controlled with only 7 people).

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm switching to mobile, driving

Don't mafia and drive please.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.
That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?
Vanilla townie is my favorite role in Mafia, and yet I'd still never select it over a power role. That's a willful reduction of one's own win-chance. Do you believe Rico would do that?

Well, one could assume that DDL is trying to balance the game so that if Rico wanted to be VT for some reason (didn't want the pressure, perhaps), he could select it knowing that DDL is probably taking that into consideration.

That said, I do agree that it's dubious and, although possible, unlikely.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 pm**

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm switching to mobile, driving
Don't mafia and drive please.

Posted: **Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 pm**

the most obvious point to do is lynch rico for discarding a powerful role, but that's probably part of his strategy and im not gonna poke him for it

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