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Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm
by sprityo
Good job town, I feel I could've maybe slipped away alive if I had just not been afk for 30 minutes :fist:

What I want to know is why eloh tried killing me?

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:30 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Thanks for playing, guys. Spend over a month trying to get this going.

I plan to host a non-turbo version of this game sometime, hopefully with way more players.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Epignosis
My claim was a double bluff.

I was vanilla anyway, given the setup.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Spacedaisy
That was so much fun. When we doing this again?

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Elohcin
See...it says i was mafia seer

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Elohcin
Like I can see who mafia is

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Tangrowth
DDL, thank you so much for hosting this. This was a TON of fun, I absolutely loved it. The setup is just brilliant. I'm dying to play another.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm
by Elohcin
I didn't know I was mafia who could see mafia

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm I just realized its be taken on, not took.

Epi must be gritting his teeth.
:eye:

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:29 pm Good game, gang. :slick:

Eloh and sprityo both had tough roads in this game, so props for making things exciting. Thanks for running a good burglary, DDL!
:mafia:
No regrets. :meany:

I figured you could be a gov't role, or you could be full of shit (and without substantive posts in the thread I wasn't giving you any space) -- and if it's the latter you're never getting lynched unless I scream about it. Besides, it led to sprityo killing you (I presume), trying to pin it on me, and in so doing revealing his hand.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
you could see werewolf, not mafia

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by Tangrowth
Well played to everyone, this was a great game. Elo and sprityo really rocked it too especially being lone mafia.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by Spacedaisy
Elohcin wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm Like I can see who mafia is
:haha:

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:32 pm
by Epignosis
Elohcin wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm Like I can see who mafia is
Image

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by Elohcin
Which are a mafia faction 😋

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by Tangrowth
Elohcin wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:31 pm I didn't know I was mafia who could see mafia
Yeah, you were a mafia-aligned cop basically.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
The seer identifies werewolves. The cop identifies mafia.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by Elohcin
It was totally fun. Great way to relax after a busy day

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
there isnt a role in the setup who can universally detect any faction. Closest one is bloodhound (who gets town or not town). Each type of cop detects something.

Cop finds mafia.
Seer finds wolves.
FBI finds serial killer.
Private investigator finds cult.
conspiracy theorist finds alien.
bloodhound finds town.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:34 pm
by Elohcin
Keep in mind...my only exposure to mafia is youth group RL and the syndicate, hehe

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:34 pm
by Tangrowth
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm The seer identifies werewolves. The cop identifies mafia.
Oh yes, that's right. Around here we would say cop, so that's what I meant, but in this setup you're right it's important to make the distinction.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:34 pm
by Ricochet
yay

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:34 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
If you notice, in the first page, I used the word "scum" to refer to baddies in general. Not mafia. Mafia is a specific faction.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:35 pm
by Tangrowth
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm there isnt a role in the setup who can universally detect any faction. Closest one is bloodhound (who gets town or not town). Each type of cop detects something.

Cop finds mafia.
Seer finds wolves.
FBI finds serial killer.
Private investigator finds cult.
conspiracy theorist finds alien.
bloodhound finds town.
Really incredible setup. Can we play the next one now? Lol. Just kidding, I have work to do, but seriously I want to play another version of this ASAP.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:35 pm
by Elohcin
Oh...i know i could just see warewolf. But it was my last ditch effort saying I could check for mafia

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:36 pm
by Elohcin
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:34 pm If you notice, in the first page, I used the word "scum" to refer to baddies in general. Not mafia. Mafia is a specific faction.
I did not know this.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
I did not have time to make a better explained thread, unfortunately. This was pretty rushed.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
It only worked because I had hosted greater idea before, so I knew the ins and outs of the roles. all the dealing with syndicate format and polls and hosting a turbo game for the first time ever was hard.

But I'm glad you guys liked it.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm
by Spacedaisy
This was super fun. Seriously, I reiterate my question of when the next turbo like this will be? lol, addicted.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm
by Tangrowth
Spacedaisy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm This was super fun. Seriously, I reiterate my question of when the next turbo like this will be? lol, addicted.
Same.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm
by Tangrowth
Also, good idea about using distinct terminology for each faction. I think I'll do that going forward instead of "mafia team 1" and "mafia team 2".

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm
by Spacedaisy
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm It only worked because I had hosted greater idea before, so I knew the ins and outs of the roles. all the dealing with syndicate format and polls and hosting a turbo game for the first time ever was hard.

But I'm glad you guys liked it.
I'm sorry, we should have let you play in the sandbox first so you could get a feel. But you did a great job! I wouldn't have changed how you ran it at all.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:39 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
MovingPictures07 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:35 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:33 pm there isnt a role in the setup who can universally detect any faction. Closest one is bloodhound (who gets town or not town). Each type of cop detects something.

Cop finds mafia.
Seer finds wolves.
FBI finds serial killer.
Private investigator finds cult.
conspiracy theorist finds alien.
bloodhound finds town.
Really incredible setup. Can we play the next one now? Lol. Just kidding, I have work to do, but seriously I want to play another version of this ASAP.
You can play a variation too if you want.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... dea_Setups

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:39 pm
by Tangrowth
Spacedaisy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:37 pm It only worked because I had hosted greater idea before, so I knew the ins and outs of the roles. all the dealing with syndicate format and polls and hosting a turbo game for the first time ever was hard.

But I'm glad you guys liked it.
I'm sorry, we should have let you play in the sandbox first so you could get a feel. But you did a great job! I wouldn't have changed how you ran it at all.
I echo this sentiment as well.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:40 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
MovingPictures07 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:38 pm Also, good idea about using distinct terminology for each faction. I think I'll do that going forward instead of "mafia team 1" and "mafia team 2".
Again, I did not design this setup. But yeah it's a good idea.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:41 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
If you guys want to play more, here is my 11th mafia game.

https://www.narutoforums.org/threads/in ... n.1112208/

2 more spots.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:44 pm
by Spacedaisy
I really want to sign up for that one, but I'm already in two games.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:40 pm
by Quin
God damn it. I'm so sorry I missed this. My phone battery died so my alarm didn't go off.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:59 pm
by Tangrowth
Spacedaisy wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:44 pm I really want to sign up for that one, but I'm already in two games.
Same. I'd love to though if I had the time. Perhaps once my mafia schedule clears up a bit and I'm past a few more dissertation deadlines.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:07 pm
by Epignosis
The greatest takeaway here is that JJJ regards Laconic wit as "pointless and tiny."

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:13 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Mental note: MP is desperate to play another GI. Use that to your advantage.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:44 pm
by Tangrowth
I'm an addict even against my better judgment, what can I say.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:52 pm
by Epignosis
I had fun, sure, but that was just giving JJJ shit.

My problem with this is that the setup isn't guaranteed to be balanced, and civilian roles generally aren't useful.

For example: I searched for serial killers.

There were no serial killers in this game...

...except there were two of them, since there was no mafia BTSC, only two independent killers.

I think this would work much better if you killed the werewolf / alien factions and worked it out to where there would be a balanced Mafia / Civilian game.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:34 pm
by sprityo
As a note since I missed this earlier

I'm sure this kind of setup is meant for a lot more people

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:38 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:34 pm As a note since I missed this earlier

I'm sure this kind of setup is meant for a lot more people
Ive been told that before

Apparently most people play it with small numbers. It was originally played in real life, with a deck of cards.

But next time I will attempt one with a lot more players.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:39 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:52 pm I had fun, sure, but that was just giving JJJ shit.

My problem with this is that the setup isn't guaranteed to be balanced, and civilian roles generally aren't useful.

For example: I searched for serial killers.

There were no serial killers in this game...

...except there were two of them, since there was no mafia BTSC, only two independent killers.

I think this would work much better if you killed the werewolf / alien factions and worked it out to where there would be a balanced Mafia / Civilian game.
Or that, too.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:40 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
The setup not being guaranteed to be balanced is the main draw of the whole thing though.

Re: Greater Idea

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:18 am
by Dragon D. Luffy
Or

We can play this

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... Idea_Mafia

No serial killers, and it has a new goo faction instead of werewolves. It also seems to remove most pointless roles.