Mountain Mafia [END]

[Sloonei]

I don't know about sig. I think that he may be civ. I can't see him up and leaving his team.

I think blooper could be bad. But if so, "that's bad luck 'ol boy" for our mafia team. Thirs person in that slot with really no participation. Did blooper even post more than once? I don't think she did.

why is sig possibly good and blooper possibly bad?

Did I not just answer this?

Not really. You gave a soft answer for sig, but your answer for ninja isn't much more than shrug.

[nutella]

Eloh's defense is working on me though. That percentage is going down a little bit atm.

[Sloonei]

Eloh's defense is working on me though. That percentage is going down a little bit atm.

how so?

[Elohcin]

I don't know about sig. I think that he may be civ. I can't see him up and leaving his team.

I think blooper could be bad. But if so, "that's bad luck 'ol boy" for our mafia team. Thirs person in that slot with really no participation. Did blooper even post more than once? I don't think she did.

why is sig possibly good and blooper possibly bad?

Did I not just answer this?

Not really. You gave a soft answer for sig, but your answer for ninja isn't much more than shrug.

That role has had three players and one post. What am I supposed to do but shrug? You're crazy if you use that against me. My daughter wants me ti straighten her hair. I will possibly be back later. Not sure how much time I'll have.

[Sloonei]

I don't know about sig. I think that he may be civ. I can't see him up and leaving his team.

I think blooper could be bad. But if so, "that's bad luck 'ol boy" for our mafia team. Thirs person in that slot with really no participation. Did blooper even post more than once? I don't think she did.

why is sig possibly good and blooper possibly bad?

Did I not just answer this?

Not really. You gave a soft answer for sig, but your answer for ninja isn't much more than shrug.

That role has had three players and one post. What am I supposed to do but shrug? You're crazy if you use that against me. My daughter wants me ti straighten her hair. I will possibly be back later. Not sure how much time I'll have.

I asked for your opinion on two players and you committed to opposite stances on the two of them. I just want to know why that is. Sig is unlikely to have bailed on his teammates, but the combination of glorf/inh/blooper is not?

[Sloonei]

It's 3 AM and I really should be going to bed, but instead here's a thought that's been bugging me all day long and I need to get out of my system:
Wilgy slipped a completely vague suspicion of me into the thread during Night 5. It was the first time I'd faced an ounce of scrutiny in a while. Eloh responded to say that "the thread has pretty much confirmed" me as town, and the doctor responds with a bogus cryptic hint toward something:

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Can anyone tell me why I have a bad read on Sloonei? I want to see what you think.

I don't know why you had a bad read on sloonei. But I think the thread has pretty much confirmed him town now. I cannot remember the exact reason why, though. Too much to remember.

Perhaps I'll find out why tonight.

I got the increasing sense over the course of this day that this was a bogus suspicion being pushed in an unsuccessful attempt to sully my good name. In my paranoid narcissism, Elohcin is also complicit in the evildoing. Early on she pushed me as a suspect (I was peddling "nonsense" because I suspected for an inconsistent rainbow. That's a real sentence I just typed with a straight face), but dropped it in the middle portion of the game. It seemed to me like she was kind of just following Epi's lead. He cleared me, and so she fell in line with his belief. But then wilgy came out of left field with a bogus attack on me, one which I now feel was probably pre-meditated. This was as meaty as it got:

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Hey Sloonei. Not much. I had a notion that you were bad based on your behavior around the J3 lynch and the Malk lynch.

I remembered behavior that seemed like buddy-ing towards Malk and his flip revealed that it may have been the case.

I also recall you being a defactor during the J3 lynch.

Other than that, I haven't read much and feel like I'm hindering everyone. Sorry.

If this was indeed a pre-meditated attack on me, it might not be a leap to assume that his teammate(s) could also be in on it, as the scum team thinks they see an avenue to push my lynch. Maybe they've tried to kill me and failed and want to get rid of me this way instead. Or something. I don't know. The point is, today it seemed like everything I said was met by objection and criticism from Elohcin. Observe:

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and welcome nijuukyugou, thanks for stepping in. Do not worry about trying to read all of this nonsense. This is already the biggest speed game in syndicate history. It'll be pointless and counterproductive to attempt a catch up. Just hop right in and start telling us who seems honest or dishonest.

I don't know if this is the best advice. Seems kind of idd for you to tell her not to worry about reading any previous content. I mean, I don't expect her to read ALL the pages, but still.

I'll extend that question to everyone, about everyone. I think this could be a useful exercise: in a brief answer, what reason do you have to read each player remaining in this game as town?

I think if I were to propose an idea like this I would be jumped on and lynched. However, with the way things are going, maybe ruling out those we trust will help us lynch scum. I just don't know. Gut tells me this approach is coming FROM scum to distract us from looking at clues in posts from those who have died recently.

I'd still like it if as many of us as are able could list reasons to read everybody as town. I have a reason for asking this, and the more people who do it, the more potentially useful the exercise is.

But why can't you just come right out and tell us your plan?

I agree with nutella that slooneis adventure to find civs is silly.

Wow, I was gone a few hours and there hasn't been much talk. I said this already. I think we need to go back to where we were before all the CFD (I think that's what you would call what has happened in just about all, if not all our lynches). Its like we have our mind made up and and then it gets changed at the end. I'm up for voting sig, kyle, or quin. I think those were the ones who had cases against them which were forgotten in the CFDs. But most of all, I'm up for sloonei. I think he took us down a rabbit trail today and wasted our time as I thought would happen. I cannot stay up late. I will be voting within the next hour.

Even though I would rather vote sloon, I went with quin because he already has a vote. I hate to do that, but as y'all can see... I have two votes. I cannot stay up any longer to help save myself, so I'll do what I can. I'm telling y'all... I think we are doing these bad lynches to ourselves. We have all these suspects and all of a sudden today you are going to decide to leave that behind and vote for me. This is not helping.

She's back to pushing me as her preferred suspect even though a couple of days ago I was "pretty much confirmed town", and any suggestion I make in the thread is opposed because... I don't know, Elohcin's just opposing everything I say.

It's worth noting that I also sensed some of the same attitude from nutella, but from her it seemed more like paranoid skepticism than Eloh's outright rejection of my ideas. Nutella classified her suspicion of me as "tinfoil" and actually provided a reason or two for wanting to avoid the exercise I was trying to lead. Plus she's generally been pro-Sloonei during this game.

i'm sleeping now.

Sloonei is suggesting here that I was trying to push a lynch on him. This makes no sense. Why would I try to lead a lynch on Sloonei? He is a very respected play this game and I am no lynch leader. If anything, this shows me as town because if I were mafia, I'd have no good reason to try to draw attention to myself and shake up the thread by going against such a trusted player. And definitely not "try to lynch him". This makes no sense for any bad guy. I was just put off by the (let's name why people are civs) exercise and gave my honest opinion. It truly made me suspicious. And I actually believe that if I were to say..."hey guys... instead of looking for baddie behavior today, even though we're doing a shit-show job of finding them, let's name why we think people are CIV!", I'd be crucified for it. Sloonei or whoever... I'm just calling out what I find suspicious. If I were mafia, I wouldn't have said anything at all because I understand it just increases my own chance of being lynched. Sloonei is well trusted and was actually on my side for a while. This is a silly case.

But my suspicion is that you were not doing this alone. You and wilgy both took stances opposed to me out of the blue and around the same time. Neither of your suspicions made sense to me and came at a potentially opportunistic moment in the game. I don't know why you'd resist me the way you did if you are town. I don't get what your objections to me were. You keep saying that my town read exercise is something that would have drawn suspicion onto you if you proposed it. why? You rejected my proposal for niju not to try to read everything in the thread. why? You repeatedly named me as your preferred suspect during the day, despite listing me as "pretty much confirmed town" a few days prior. why?

[Elohcin]

I don't know about sig. I think that he may be civ. I can't see him up and leaving his team.

I think blooper could be bad. But if so, "that's bad luck 'ol boy" for our mafia team. Thirs person in that slot with really no participation. Did blooper even post more than once? I don't think she did.

why is sig possibly good and blooper possibly bad?

Did I not just answer this?

Not really. You gave a soft answer for sig, but your answer for ninja isn't much more than shrug.

That role has had three players and one post. What am I supposed to do but shrug? You're crazy if you use that against me. My daughter wants me ti straighten her hair. I will possibly be back later. Not sure how much time I'll have.

I asked for your opinion on two players and you committed to opposite stances on the two of them. I just want to know why that is. Sig is unlikely to have bailed on his teammates, but the combination of glorf/inh/blooper is not?

Sig was actually here at some point. The others in gorlfs original role were not. Bloop came in, said we were insane, and was out. I guess you can call that bailing. But the other two weren't even here in the first place TO bail. So... that's the difference imo and that's why I give them opposite reads. But there isn't much to go on either way.

[Elohcin]

Okay... between responses and doing gair, I didn't have time tonread much of wilgy. Now I gotta eat and go out for Epis last performance. Be back later tonight.

[Elohcin]

Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.

[Sloonei]

Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.

Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?

[dunya]

I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour

Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".

I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour

Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".

dude the number of times my advisor has sent me "did you wake up at 2/3/4am or did you send that before bed" is alarming.

So guys.

This is like, just a game.

If you are losing sleep to see the EoD, then you should consider giving up on seeing the EoD.

Just a friendly advice.

nah, I'm staying up late cos I have exams anyway. I'm not staying up till eod, except once in a critical lynch, cos Epi told me sleep was for the weak and I had to prove my town loyalty by staying up like him. I don't think he took into consideration the 6hrs between us, but it's okay.

[dunya]

Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.

Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?

she was definitely saying "I do think you're good," since she started the next sentence with "But". Her husband is an English teacher. That makes sense.

[dunya]

I'm not sold on Eloh's defense tbh.

I'm looking at her, and I'm looking at a fourth active scum member. Something Sloonei said reasoned with me. And how Jay went after the inactives. I think it's possible none of the replaced players were scum. :/ nijuu could have more easily been able to contribute if she was scum. Something tells me she picked up a town role card.

[Sloonei]

Have one more thing to say. Sloonei...I donthunk you're good. But I feelnlike you are really reaching with these last few posts/questions to me.

Is "donthunk" supposed to be "do think" or "don't think"?

she was definitely saying "I do think you're good," since she started the next sentence with "But". Her husband is an English teacher. That makes sense.

If that is the case then I'm even more confused. She spent all day yesterday calling for me to be lynched.
also i don't know how to feel about being accused of reaching for asking her to explain the things she's put into the thread

[Sloonei]

I'm not sold on Eloh's defense tbh.

I'm looking at her, and I'm looking at a fourth active scum member. Something Sloonei said reasoned with me. And how Jay went after the inactives. I think it's possible none of the replaced players were scum. :/ nijuu could have more easily been able to contribute if she was scum. Something tells me she picked up a town role card.

i've said a lot of things. what was it?

[Sloonei]

If Elohcin is scum, I'd much more inclined to look at niju than sig. But I'd also be open to a 4th active partner.

[Boomslang]

Super late to the party due to a power outage, but thanks to LC for giving credit where credit is due for player salad :P Making a lasting mark on the community!

[Sloonei]

Super late to the party due to a power outage, but thanks to LC for giving credit where credit is due for player salad :P Making a lasting mark on the community!

The man, the myth, the legend

[dunya]

It's not easy getting real answers out of Eloh. I tried. At least she hasn't made any "I'm busy, I have cakes to bake and children to educate" excuses to you yet. Those will make you feel shameful.

I'd also like to point out, and I know I've mentioned this hit me the wrong way repeatedly, but the Dom placement.
She excused herself a couple days ago by saying it must have been someone who said something that made her suspect Dom. But when I read her ISO yesterday, she actually defended her reads:

Her response to Quin:

Kyle is yellow. I have no real read on him. Its only you and sloonei. And like I said already....the rainbow list was just a way tonget my gut reads out there of who I can/cannot trust. I cannot ISO or dig deep on anyone specific, pulling posts to quote and show why I'd lynch rhis player or that. I simply don't have time. I'm constantly just reading the thread through and responding. I would need some quiet in the thread so I have time to actually read peope individually and contribute detailed reads.

This is the response she gave after a JJJ prod on her list:

As for discussion of the rainbow list I made on day one (I think it was), I just looked at the list of playera and basically put them in order of most trustworthy to least trustworthy in accordance with my opinion. Apparently I was ignorant to the fact that rainbow lists had to be more complicated than that. And yea, In mentioned that I was okay with voting A low poster as I felt a baddie could be among them. Of course its not like I would have picked a low powter at random to vote for. It would be something that would have to be discussed. And just because I'm okay with voting a low poster doesn't mean all the low posters have to be orange and red on my rainbow list.

There was no mention of any suspicion towards Dom itt around her post.

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I've enjoyed reading dunya's catch up posts.

I want to address mesk's play. Who was it that said they had played with her as civ before and she was really fierce? She seems so genuine to me, but that info doesn't allign with her behavior. I think she needs to be up for discussion today.

Linki...by the way... I can never address linki because on my phone, the left side of linki gets cut off for some reason. Just thought I'd share.

I don't think her absence for 6 days is indicative of her alignment. That's what I would like to sway people away from.
Yes, as town, a wrongly accused town, she gets very vocal and aggressively defensive. She hasn't been on the frying pan though, indeed, she hasn't even been on the forum for 6 days so....we can't say she's scum because she's not here.

This is oddly defensive, imo.

Dunya replaced in awesomely with great effort. What if she is too good to be true? What if there have been no night kills because of a quiet mafia and two of them are mesk and now dunya? Just really spitting this out real quick before I go watch tv with the family. I'm not fully caught up so tell me if I'm insane.

She asks a question in the thread: "Who was it that said they had played with her as civ before and she was really fierce? "

I answered her question in a post. Since it did not align with what she wanted, she accuses me of being "oddly defensive" of Mesk and tries to immediately draw suspicion towards me.

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@Long Con Lost Again 3 comes to mind. But whatever man. I don't feel the need to prove I can play a good scum game. Especially given the fact that I am not scum in this game.

That's exactly what Scumdaisy would say.

Since DrWilgy is here (hi! *wave)
Can you please elaborate more on this specifically as I have a mixed read on Daisy so far. I have never played with ScumDaisy before.

Nothing. I'm terrible at reading Daisy.

Um...this post screams scum, wilgy.

Still reading...

she chose the least "scummy" wilgy post. In fact, it's literally 6 words. a 6 word post SCREAMS scum. I find that extreme hyperbole. Very strange choice of quote and exaggeration. Why is it screaming of scum? But that's not the funny thing, the funny this is:

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I was amazed at how many called me scum in their gth reads. Does this reflect my contributions thus far or mostly what you were feeling from sprityo? Genuinely curious.

I fell asleep after your first handful of posts (you must have been boring )and just woke up to the GTH reads. So my read was about 90% sprit and 10% dunya, without having read most of your contributions.

Fair enough. I don't know you well, but I feel your answer here is genuine.

I kind of did my own GTH as I was reading through the thread. Of the low posters, I think Dom and wilgy may be good although there was one post of wilgy's that seemed very scum, but then he better explained himself and that sounded pretty genuine. But then again maybe it was a slip and he noticed how scum he sounded and then just tried to make up for it well. I think INH and mesk could be bad. Oh and sig is quiet too but I'm unsure about him. I could be missing some. Of the outspoken players, i think jjj, cbob, and dunya are good. I think thats all. The others are all in between participants imo, not over chatty and not too quiet. Maybe I'll try doing a list of my gth tomorrow qhere I can include everyone. I'm very sleepy.

Like, literally her next post names Wilgy may be good (referencing that post that made Wilgy seem "very scum"....but he still made it to her may be good. With whom? With Dom, who was her third suspect from the bottom in her rainbow list.

Then she flips and calls her green reads, Mesk and INH bad.

She names Jay, cBob and me as good here (this won't last, she's been throwing shit my way ever so often in the beginning so expect a follow up to when she thinks dunya is fake again).

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Quick comment regarding the GTH exercise.

For everyokne that GTH'd me good. Why do you think I'm good? Under what scenarios do you find that I'm scummy? Would you say that you are mpre of a player that finds people innocent until proven guilty or guilty until proven innocent?

@elochin I'm still curious as to why you stated my comment about being able to read Daisy stuck out to you as scummy before my further explanation. What about that comment caused a scum read? Am I not allowed to be bad at reading someone?

@JoH, I'll get back to you. I've come to a point where I'm aware of my tunneling and I need to review others before I continue to bark at you. What I find interesting outside of our back and forth is your baddie read of me. What prompted this read exactly?

It was the tine and abruptness off your post. I quoted and posted and then came back to where I left off and saw you had explained yourself better in the very next post. I thought maybe after you posted, you read it back and saw your scummy tone and figured you should better explain or.... perhaps your tone wasn't a scum slip and you were just continuing your thoughts in the next post. Seeing as just about everyone, if not everyone, sees you as good with their GTHs, I'm thinking it was one of my irrational reads. I'm good at those. But I don't know. I would put you as a firm yellow in my head.

Wilgy asks her why she thought his post was scummy, she made a defense and then told him how his responses had moved her opinion, but puts him in a "firm yellow" after naming his as "maybe good" with Dom a few post earlier.

JaggedJimmyJay - EGH
JJJ is never scum.
No, but really, I don't know what he'd be like as scum. If he's leading, and leading well, mafia will probably kill him and take care of things for us. If they start killing other leaders and JJJ takes control of the game, wipe him.

This is gross. All it is is an invitation for JJJ-less mafia to burn a lynch. Gross.

Yeah, shoot. Mafia ain't gonna take him out now. They know if they don't, you eventually will! I don't think this was a wise posy to make if you are civ, chuck.

This post just screams "fake" to me. It was almost as though she was giving a soft future defence of why Jay may not be nightkilled since he's usually one of the most outspoken "supertowns". Also, it reads like a mom scolding a child, very different from "angry" Eloh using bad words.

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YET ANOTHER IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT

insertnamehere has replaced Glorfindel.

INH replaced in with time to submit a kill for Night 1.

Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:53 pm

insertnamehere posted elsewhere at 11:36pm EST this same evening.

And dunya said that she thinks there is more of a team kill rather than a specific role that can send in the kill because if it were a specific role then marmot would have replaced her there.

So if only the killer mafia role is allowed to send in a kill, then I think it has to velong toneither INH or dunya. Most likely INH since he replaced in first. @Marmot can the team send in the kill as a group pm? (Hey... doesn't hurt to ask, right?)

tries to add a few cents to what we were discussing and leading towards. She obv knows the answer, but prods Marmot for a response. Not sure what her parenthesis mean. Did she think he wouldn't answer in the thread? Not sure...

The issue I'm running into is that at this point I suspect both dunya and jack, but they can't both be bad, dunya is voting for Jack, Jack is being irregularly difficult at all times.

I'd be up for a dunya lynch. I keep having this nagging voice in the back of my head that says, "She's bad, Tasha. B. A. D." But part of me feels bad because she does aeem to be really on top of things and very helpful, especially for a replacement.

and here we are, Eloh trying to get me lynched again. I'm BAD, but also possibly good. But she'd also be up for lynching me. She made no observations on why I'm bad except that I'm helpful and on top of things. Does that worry Scum Eloh?

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Wih mesk still not around, I'm thinking she is civ. She isn't new to mafia even though she is new here. I don't think she qould abandon a btsc team. Of course, I could be wrong. There is always a chance she and dunya are bad. I know I have said this before. And dunya kind of eased my mind about it, but think...mesk hasn't been back. She doesn't know that dunya is here. What is mesk was all alone in btsc and decides to justbleave and now she has a strong teammate but doesn't know it. Gah.... I'm so indecisive.

I need some feesback on my thoughts of dunya. What are y'all thinking?

After stating Mesk was on her bad list, she came around to townie again. But then how can she accuse me, so apparently, after defending Mesk, I'm not Mesk's scum mate and Mesk is MIA because it was just me and her in the BTSC...

She pushes for more feedback on me, no one replies to her so she says she's not voting for Mesk or Dom or Sloonei and will vote for speedchuck instead, like that, out of the blue.

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Wow! I cannot believe so many of you stayed up til 2am for mafia. Five pages from 10pm-2am. I looked at the poll, I read a few posts, but tbh, not enough to really understand how y'all came around to mesk. I thought I was the only one who thought she was bad. Y'all know not to listen to cooky eloh, shoot.

Mesk, I hope you join us again sometime soon. You seem like a fun person tonplay with when you're here.

I'm not gonna lie. Even if the lynch was a townie, I'm still happy someone is gone. It helps me form better opinions of others. Dunya... I think you're alright imo now. It eases my mind because I hated that nagging feeling that you were bad.

Alright... it's Thursday and you know what that means... I won't be around. Don't talk too much.

And Mesk flips town, and I'm town again. She had the nagging feeling I was defending her. She could have continued suspecting me if that's why she thought I was scum, my scumminess never depended on Mesk flipping scum. I don't get where she gets her reads.

now this next part was blown waaaaay out of proportion (and honestly, I was offended that she thought I would be cheating in any way and I posted the photo again to prove to her it was a cat photo because she said she didn't see any cat in the photo. I don't like being called a cheater tbh)

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Okay...this is weird. I'm not caught up. Trying though. But I told Juliets that I would try to get into discord today since I haven't been in there is probably a couple weeks. I went in there just now and dunya has posted a pic in there of her laptop and it has a quote of mine and her talking about me feeling guilty or whatever. She also says I'm lurking. She refers to my post when I ask for a catch up and say something like, I'm not trying to cheat. I feel the need to address this. First of all...what is that doing in discord. Second, I'm not lurking. I have been super busy as I have said. I have kept the page open so I can read here and there throughout the day as Im waiting on cupcakes to bake or nuts to roast or laundry to heck...food to finish heating in the microwave. I haven't really had the cahnce to actually post though b/c I'm STILL catching up even now. And I was not feeling guilty. I just was hoping for a catch up on the EoD and night since I wasn't here really. I called it cheating because I was asking someone else to tell me what happened rather than reading it myself. Anyway... still catching up.

all that it was ftr is a photo of my laptop (with a post I'd made public in the thread opened since I was playing mafia, and Lizzy behind looking at herself in the mirror and I said something like "diva queen" or some comment on Lizzy). That's a very nervous scum reaction imo blowing things way out of proportion. I mean sorry my screen was open on a couple of most recent posts made in the thread? Maybe I'm biased about that because I don't like to be accused of cheating, but a Townie would not have acted as hung up and defensive and aggressive as her there.

now here's where it gets good again:

I'm pushing hard for a Wilgy lynch here

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I'll tell you what a strong townie stance is: it's having strong suspicions. Just clearing people off is more a scum stance-tactic. Does that make sense to you?

You were only using emojis, but those emojis actually reflected better on you. You were calling people good/bad with them. That's townie as hell.

This "not calling Jack bad for his play day one" and "not agreeing on a Jay lynch" is not necessarily townie as hell.

I hope you can see where I am coming from; I'm super genuine and super serious and extremely demanding.

So you want mor quantity from me?

no...I never complained about low post count or quantity of post. I want more genuine, hard stances. I would understand your hesitation in that you can't give me a genuine scum read without outing a scum-mate, but try.

she laughs. She doesn't make any other comments on the exchange going on between Wilgy and I, she just laughs.

next post she makes that isnt OT?

I would be okay lynching wilgy, quin, sloonei, dunya, or lc. I know its my duty to go into detail but I cannot stare at this screen much longer. This isnbased on a previous poat I made in response to dunya. These arenthe people I don't trust atm.

Wilgy-not trying hard enough. Has pinged me a couple times.
Quin and sloonei-seem to be a driving force this game but I don't feel like they seem super civ. Baddie teams usually have at least one very vocal player. If this team does, gotta be one of these.
Dunya-same field as sloonei and quin as a driving force, but she has said several things that ping me even though she also seems like a vey helpful civ. "Seems" and "is" are two different things.
Lc-still could be bad imo

She names Wilgy as her #1 suspect. Because he's not trying hard enough.

I mean....I could go on and on. But I have convinced myself 100%. All these reasons and more (I still have 2 pages I can ISO) are why I will be lynching Elo tomorrow no matter what happens tonight.

[dunya]

well, unless Elo died tonight. That's the only condition where I won't lynch her.

[dunya]

the question is outside of nijuu/sig, who is the least likely active, scummy player with Eloh?

[dunya]

by least I mean most. sorry, my mind is mushy now.

[Sloonei]

the question is outside of nijuu/sig, who is the most likely active, scummy player with Eloh?

My tinfoil is on nutella.

[Sloonei]

This game makes the most sense to me if Elohcin is scum.

[dunya]

the question is outside of nijuu/sig, who is the most likely active, scummy player with Eloh?

My tinfoil is on nutella.

I think Everest would have pushed harder for a scummy nutella. No one was questioning her. Unless Everest is inactive.

anyway, if I die tonight guys, please don't let Eloh go. consider it my last dying wish.

[dunya]

But Everest isn't inactive cos of Day 1 tie.

[Sloonei]

the question is outside of nijuu/sig, who is the most likely active, scummy player with Eloh?

My tinfoil is on nutella.

I think Everest would have pushed harder for a scummy nutella. No one was questioning her. Unless Everest is inactive.

Who then?

[Kylemii]

If Eloh is mafia and dies leaving a solo mafia sig/nijuu, I don't think we'd see a night kill.

[Sloonei]

If Eloh is mafia and dies leaving a solo mafia sig/nijuu, I don't think we'd see a night kill.

I think niju could at least select a name to submit a kill.

[dunya]

I mean if Elo flips scum, we should wait and see what would happen Night 8 before we decide whether to try our luck with lynching an inactive (nijuu/sig...not hot on sig tbh) or start looking at one of the following:

speedchuck
Quin
DDL

[dunya]

This is me tinfoiling majorly here, but after how much we've talked about bussing scenarios, and after seeing firsthand how hard Jay went after DrWilgy and Eloh, would it be that implausible that speed was given the green light to bus DrWilgy yesterday because he's very busy IRL and his activity levels have taken a beating?

[dunya]

anyway, my list reads from least to most likely

speed
Quin
DDL

[Dragon D. Luffy]

If Eloh is mafia and dies leaving a solo mafia sig/nijuu, I don't think we'd see a night kill.

I think niju could at least select a name to submit a kill.

I like to believe a veteran player wouldn't be completely inactive and still come to send kills. It's unsportsmanlike.

[dunya]

My money is still on 4 active scum members and all of the inactives were townies at this point. It's more overwhelming to come into a game of this magnitude when you're town. It's so much easier when you're scum, you know who the baddies are, you just have to bullshit your way around suspicion. I have a feeling if nijuu was scum, she'd have shown up again, esp considering it was Friday and it's a weekend and she's a high school teacher as Eloh mentioned.

so yeah, leaning strangely town.

[Sloonei]

I mean if Elo flips scum, we should wait and see what would happen Night 8 before we decide whether to try our luck with lynching an inactive (nijuu/sig...not hot on sig tbh) or start looking at one of the following:

speedchuck
Quin
DDL

Definitely agreed with the first part, but I would not remove nutella from that list.
Do you have any thoughts on which of those three might be scum?

[Kylemii]

yeah but like

[Kylemii]

wouldn't it be great if an active final wolf skipped their kill so we'd think they were inactive

[Sloonei]

I can see niju being scum, but I may be siding with the 4 active theory.

[Sloonei]

wouldn't it be great if an active final wolf skipped their kill so we'd think they were inactive

Or submitted a lazy kill to make it appear like they're not paying attention. What would the numbers be like supposing eloh is scum and we lynch her tomorrow? I ask because i'm too lazy to do math

[dunya]

I mean if Elo flips scum, we should wait and see what would happen Night 8 before we decide whether to try our luck with lynching an inactive (nijuu/sig...not hot on sig tbh) or start looking at one of the following:

speedchuck
Quin
DDL

Definitely agreed with the first part, but I would not remove nutella from that list.
Do you have any thoughts on which of those three might be scum?

don't make me start tunneling nutella again. I thought everyone told me to stop

What do you think of my speedchuck theory?

[dunya]

well, if scum make a kill tonight and we lynch scum eloh tomorrow we'd be down to

1 v 9

[dunya]

The odds are in our favor to win this game.

[Sloonei]

I mean if Elo flips scum, we should wait and see what would happen Night 8 before we decide whether to try our luck with lynching an inactive (nijuu/sig...not hot on sig tbh) or start looking at one of the following:

speedchuck
Quin
DDL

Definitely agreed with the first part, but I would not remove nutella from that list.
Do you have any thoughts on which of those three might be scum?

don't make me start tunneling nutella again. I thought everyone told me to stop

What do you think of my speedchuck theory?

I'm not familiar with it. Where did you discuss it?

I liked the theory that speedchuck is town due to being the third wagon on Day 4 after Jay and Wilgy.

[Sloonei]

well, if scum make a kill tonight and we lynch scum eloh tomorrow we'd be down to

1 v 9

8 vs 1 vs 1

[Kylemii]

maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that

[Sloonei]

Either way, those numbers afford us time to call the hypothetical bluff of an active player withholding a kill. We could take the time lynch sig and niju and still be guaranteed to make it to lylo. Especially with the everest ability in our favor.

[dunya]

I'm not counting the 3P as an independent. s/he wins with town and town can win with him/her. There's mutual interest.

[dunya]

maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that

[Dragon D. Luffy]

maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that

Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.

[Sloonei]

maybe the mafia will even decide not to send a kill tonight either so we think that nijuuk and sig are the last wolves 0:

that would be the best move I sure hope they don't do that

Well that's not unsportsman like and I've done a similar thing myself once.

My role was a jester who turned into a serial killer if he didn't get lynched day 1. I got lynched day 1 and won the game but another player used a revive on me with made me "unwin" the game so now I had to be a serial killer. I proceeded to spend the whole game without killing anyone so people would think I was still a jester. It was fun because I acted as scummy as possible for a full game. And then I won it again.

Who's bad?