The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:25 am**

Also, if I vote Wilgy now, it will be near-identical to when I voted bob:

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:06 am OK, hittin' up bob to seal the deal. It was 6-4, now it's 7-4.

Increased the lead on the already-looking-lynched guy. Do I do that again? Got burned with bob.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:26 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:24 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:19 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:16 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:15 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 am Kylemii, speedchuck. And Quin is a big question mark as well, really. But speedchuck's an old suspicion, and dealing with Kyle today was sketchville as well.
Look dude, I'm just saying if Nutella or even Sloonei asked me the same questions you were asking, I probably would have given a straight answer.
I don't know what the difference really is, because Long Con would still know your answer.
Yeah, it feels like just a dickish move especially since I'm Civ, you tree stump!
tree stump? we're all mountains here

I was trying to think of something impossibly stubbornly hard to move. Missed the obvious.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:27 am**

Voting Wilgy, and he'd better be bad.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:27 am**

Since he's on the way out. My theory for Wilgy is he's K2.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:28 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:16 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:15 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 am Kylemii, speedchuck. And Quin is a big question mark as well, really. But speedchuck's an old suspicion, and dealing with Kyle today was sketchville as well.
Look dude, I'm just saying if Nutella or even Sloonei asked me the same questions you were asking, I probably would have given a straight answer.
I don't know what the difference really is, because Long Con would still know your answer.

The difference is the source. It changes the motivation behind asking the question.

If a family member asks you about your homeowners insurance policy you'd probably answer them. If your shady neighbor who has a garage full of gasoline and matches asks the same question you probably think twice.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:28 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:26 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:24 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:19 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:16 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:15 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:12 am Kylemii, speedchuck. And Quin is a big question mark as well, really. But speedchuck's an old suspicion, and dealing with Kyle today was sketchville as well.
Look dude, I'm just saying if Nutella or even Sloonei asked me the same questions you were asking, I probably would have given a straight answer.
I don't know what the difference really is, because Long Con would still know your answer.
Yeah, it feels like just a dickish move especially since I'm Civ, you tree stump!
tree stump? we're all mountains here
I was trying to think of something impossibly stubbornly hard to move. Missed the obvious.

they're hard to spot, those mountains

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:30 am**

I did a game of elimination from k2s notes and also tried to explain why one night phase was missed.

Drwilgy fits that. He mentions himself in the last message as a last mild suspect but focuses on DDL

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:31 am**

The only other person it could be was Kyle but Kyle never misses a night phase. And Eloh but he called himself a male so not her.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:27 am Since he's on the way out. My theory for Wilgy is he's K2.

we discussed this theory fairly in depth a page or two back. I feel there's more evidence against it than for it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am**

Also Eloh isn't as up to speed on the thread.

And Kyles in the thread suspects did not align with K2s

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am**

If I'm lynched today Long Con is Sutter Buttes.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:33 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:15 am wilgy has been one of dunya's most vocal opponents in the thread. On Night 4 K2 said this:
Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:24 am
K2 wrote: Additionally, K2 thinks Jay's flip should clear Dunya and Epig from suspicion.

With Love,
K2

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:33 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:27 am Since he's on the way out. My theory for Wilgy is he's K2.
we discussed this theory fairly in depth a page or two back. I feel there's more evidence against it than for it.

are you sure?

Wilgy has only been opposing me today

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:34 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am If I'm lynched today Long Con is Sutter Buttes.

explain?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:35 am**

Also of note in the snippet I pulled above, K2 refers to Epignosis as "Epig". wilgy says "epi".

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:35 am**

Omg I moved to Wilgy. I hope you're right Sloonei. If not I'm going to hit you.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:36 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:35 am Omg I moved to Wilgy. I hope you're right Sloonei. If not I'm going to hit you.

deal

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:36 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:32 am If I'm lynched today Long Con is Sutter Buttes.

Cool! Let's leave the votes exactly as they are then.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:36 am**

Cos like the only reason I let my suspicions go was K2

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:35 am Also of note in the snippet I pulled above, K2 refers to Epignosis as "Epig". wilgy says "epi".

I hope so :o

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am**

Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:40 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:35 am Also of note in the snippet I pulled above, K2 refers to Epignosis as "Epig". wilgy says "epi".

Well now I'm sure who K2 is.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.

Sounds entertaining.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.
Sounds entertaining.

I have a choreographed dance to go with it if you'd like to see it.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:43 am**

K2 is going to name and shame all of us.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:44 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:42 am
Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:37 am Before LC voted I was entertaining the idea that he was using "Wilgy is already in the lead" as an excuse to not vote and to allow Wilgy and Everest to lynch me today. If Wilgy was town he'd try to follow up with his lynch. I see arguments for and against Wilgy being his teammate in that scenario. Him not considering Wilgy and Everest's votes at the time just freaked me out.
Sounds entertaining.
I have a choreographed dance to go with it if you'd like to see it.

No thank you.

I used to call him Epig, but then I saw people saying Epi and I was afraid he might think I'm calling him a pig.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:44 am**

LMAO LC

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:44 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:43 am K2 is going to name and shame all of us.

What if K2 has to name and shame himself?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:45 am**

I thought Epig was a bit like Epic

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:45 am**

Anyway, cool lynch bros, but Marmot isn't even online, so I'm going to bed. Later!

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:46 am**

I hope K2 understands that I only engaged in discussion of their identity because it was necessary in order to produce the lynch result that I was in favor of, and I've made an effort to avoid discussing who I believe them to be, and stuck instead to refuting the possibility of one player specifically holding their role.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:47 am**

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:44 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:43 am K2 is going to name and shame all of us.
What if K2 has to name and shame himself?

He'll be modkilled :o

Linki shut up and take the blame Sloonei. We are all fucked if this doesn't add up

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:51 am**

i'm innocent!

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:35 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:47 am I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour

Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:40 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:47 am I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour
Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".

dude the number of times my advisor has sent me "did you wake up at 2/3/4am or did you send that before bed" is alarming.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:56 am**

DOCTOR WHO?

DrWilgy? More like DrPuny. DrWilgy has been lynched. He was...

Spoiler: show

It is now Night 7. You have until 21:00 MST to send in your night actions.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:57 am**

DAY 7

Who beheaded the Nose?
Poll ended at Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:38:42 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
6
43%
Voters: Kylemii, Quin, speedchuck, Long Con, dunya, Sloonei
dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Elohcin
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
nijuukyugou
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
3
21%
Voters: Elohcin, nutella, Dragon D. Luffy
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
speedchuck
0
No votes
Voters: None
Some unknown arsonist (Hosts/Nons/Deads)
5
36%
Voters: colonialbob, juliets, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay, Marmot
Total votes: 14

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:57 am**

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:00 am**

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:47 am I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour
Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".
dude the number of times my advisor has sent me "did you wake up at 2/3/4am or did you send that before bed" is alarming.

Wish I could help everyone out with the timing, but my time slots are pretty limited.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:01 am**

This gives us a whole lot more information to dig through with the knowledge that both Jay and wilgy were scum. I'll re-evaluate lots of things tomorrow, but for the time being I'll highlight this thing I said a few hours ago:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:04 pm If wilgy is bad it means that Jay opted to bus him pretty hard. He would have been making a direct effort to put serious distance between himself and a teammate. If he employs this strategy with one teammate, he may have employed it with another.
If wilgy is scum, I have no reason to town read Elohcin.

And I'd also like to point out that this was wilgy's answer to my town read exercise:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:20 pm Did more thinking about Sloonei's reason for civ questions. I don't have the time to list em out or explain right now, but the ones I had the hardest time validating as civs were (and in this order) Niju-sig, Dunya, Long Con, Quin. With everyone else, I can see them in a civ light easier.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:02 am**

phew ok good

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:02 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:00 am
dunya wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:47 am I was supposed to be typing up a short letter for an old professor so he can finalize my grad school recommendation tonight. Instead I'm here for another hour
Good news guys, I wrote the email! but i'm not sending it til the morning because i'll look like a weirdo if the timestamp reads "2:30 AM".
dude the number of times my advisor has sent me "did you wake up at 2/3/4am or did you send that before bed" is alarming.
Wish I could help everyone out with the timing, but my time slots are pretty limited.

Don't feel bad! My post was not meant as a complaint, just an observation of my obsessive tendencies.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:04 am**

I'd lynch Eloh next tbh

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:07 am**

And I'd be willing to look more into DDL as well. I've gotten far too comfortable reading him as town when I really have no concrete reason to as far as I can remember.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:07 am**

Though I'd be surprised if both of wilgy's teammates voted for Quin. There's probably a busser in there. Kyle or dunya or lc?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:11 am**

Long Con and speedchuck are the only people on that wagon I don't firmly read as town, but I feel better about each of them given their votes today, at least in the immediate aftermath. Elohcin is my top suspect right now.
niju and sig (and wilgy) did not vote at all.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:13 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:11 am Long Con and speedchuck are the only people on that wagon I don't firmly read as town, but I feel better about each of them given their votes today, at least in the immediate aftermath. Elohcin is my top suspect right now.
niju and sig (and wilgy) did not vote at all.

what was it about LC's vote that made you feel better about him?

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:16 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:13 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:11 am Long Con and speedchuck are the only people on that wagon I don't firmly read as town, but I feel better about each of them given their votes today, at least in the immediate aftermath. Elohcin is my top suspect right now.
niju and sig (and wilgy) did not vote at all.
what was it about LC's vote that made you feel better about him?

It happened. He left the door open to put a vote on Quin instead and I held it open for him to see how he'd respond, but he stuck to wilgy and contributed to the lynch. He's not removed as a suspect, but he felt sincere in the moment and at face value I like that his vote ended up in the right place.

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:39 am**

mfw i let go of my eloh suspicion and now shes a top suspect

Posted: **Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:41 am**

It's 3 AM and I really should be going to bed, but instead here's a thought that's been bugging me all day long and I need to get out of my system:
Wilgy slipped a completely vague suspicion of me into the thread during Night 5. It was the first time I'd faced an ounce of scrutiny in a while. Eloh responded to say that "the thread has pretty much confirmed" me as town, and the doctor responds with a bogus cryptic hint toward something:

Spoiler: show

I got the increasing sense over the course of this day that this was a bogus suspicion being pushed in an unsuccessful attempt to sully my good name. In my paranoid narcissism, Elohcin is also complicit in the evildoing. Early on she pushed me as a suspect (I was peddling "nonsense" because I suspected for an inconsistent rainbow. That's a real sentence I just typed with a straight face), but dropped it in the middle portion of the game. It seemed to me like she was kind of just following Epi's lead. He cleared me, and so she fell in line with his belief. But then wilgy came out of left field with a bogus attack on me, one which I now feel was probably pre-meditated. This was as meaty as it got:

Spoiler: show

If this was indeed a pre-meditated attack on me, it might not be a leap to assume that his teammate(s) could also be in on it, as the scum team thinks they see an avenue to push my lynch. Maybe they've tried to kill me and failed and want to get rid of me this way instead. Or something. I don't know. The point is, today it seemed like everything I said was met by objection and criticism from Elohcin. Observe:

Spoiler: show

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:28 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:57 am and welcome nijuukyugou, thanks for stepping in. Do not worry about trying to read all of this nonsense. This is already the biggest speed game in syndicate history. It'll be pointless and counterproductive to attempt a catch up. Just hop right in and start telling us who seems honest or dishonest.
I don't know if this is the best advice. Seems kind of idd for you to tell her not to worry about reading any previous content. I mean, I don't expect her to read ALL the pages, but still.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:35 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:55 am I'll extend that question to everyone, about everyone. I think this could be a useful exercise: in a brief answer, what reason do you have to read each player remaining in this game as town?
I think if I were to propose an idea like this I would be jumped on and lynched. However, with the way things are going, maybe ruling out those we trust will help us lynch scum. I just don't know. Gut tells me this approach is coming FROM scum to distract us from looking at clues in posts from those who have died recently.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:12 pm I'd still like it if as many of us as are able could list reasons to read everybody as town. I have a reason for asking this, and the more people who do it, the more potentially useful the exercise is.
But why can't you just come right out and tell us your plan?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:46 pm I agree with nutella that slooneis adventure to find civs is silly.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:16 pm Wow, I was gone a few hours and there hasn't been much talk. I said this already. I think we need to go back to where we were before all the CFD (I think that's what you would call what has happened in just about all, if not all our lynches). Its like we have our mind made up and and then it gets changed at the end. I'm up for voting sig, kyle, or quin. I think those were the ones who had cases against them which were forgotten in the CFDs. But most of all, I'm up for sloonei. I think he took us down a rabbit trail today and wasted our time as I thought would happen. I cannot stay up late. I will be voting within the next hour.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:35 pm Even though I would rather vote sloon, I went with quin because he already has a vote. I hate to do that, but as y'all can see... I have two votes. I cannot stay up any longer to help save myself, so I'll do what I can. I'm telling y'all... I think we are doing these bad lynches to ourselves. We have all these suspects and all of a sudden today you are going to decide to leave that behind and vote for me. This is not helping.

She's back to pushing me as her preferred suspect even though a couple of days ago I was "pretty much confirmed town", and any suggestion I make in the thread is opposed because... I don't know, Elohcin's just opposing everything I say.

It's worth noting that I also sensed some of the same attitude from nutella, but from her it seemed more like paranoid skepticism than Eloh's outright rejection of my ideas. Nutella classified her suspicion of me as "tinfoil" and actually provided a reason or two for wanting to avoid the exercise I was trying to lead. Plus she's generally been pro-Sloonei during this game.

i'm sleeping now.

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