The Syndicate

Really though good game, gang. The civilians put more collective effort into this game than I have ever seen in 24-hour days. 9 out of 10 mafias lose to that effort.

We were incredibly unlucky on top of that. We had the thread primed to start with two mislynches. They both failed, and the victims became confirmed townies instead. We killed both Sloonei and Epignosis before they could lead my destruction -- they both lived. We killed dunya before she could carry out her slaughter -- she lived.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:11 am I set out from the beginning to use my role as a means to advise the thread and direct people's attention without tipping the mafia off to who I was, and I pretty much did the opposite of that.

The Scooby Doo script message was because I kinda..... stopped caring at that point. It seemed like we were going to win no matter what happened and Marmot told me at the beginning of the game that my messages could be as long as I wanted as long as they don't hit post limits. I wasn't sure a full length movie script would fit.

In a way I didn't really have a choice but to post the entirety of the dialogue from Scooby Doo: Where Are You season 2 episode 7 on Night 8; it was out of my hands.

that was probably my favorite thing about this game tbh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:12 am Really though good game, gang. The civilians put more collective effort into this game than I have ever seen in 24-hour days. 9 out of 10 mafias lose to that effort.

We were incredibly unlucky on top of that. We had the thread primed to start with two mislynches. They both failed, and the victims became confirmed townies instead. We killed both Sloonei and Epignosis before they could lead my destruction -- they both lived. We killed dunya before she could carry out her slaughter -- she lived.

the hardcore bussing strategy kept us off the scent for a while. it would have been effective if any of us died at any point.

Yeah by that point we were throwing hail mary passes. It was evident we had very few routes to victory after about the third failed kill.

This isn't about the game as much as some things I learned from my role that I couldn't comment in without outing myself.

K2, Pakistan/China (8,611 m) - K2 is the second highest mountain in the world behind Everest, though it is actually far more deadly for mountain climbers (almost 25% death rate). K2 may write a message to the thread each night, warning of danger.

1. before this game I didn't even know Pakistan and China shared a border

2. 25% death rate is a lot lower of a death rate than I expected, I thought mountains were a lot more dangerous than that???? What's the fucking point. :/

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:13 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:11 amScooby Doo

that was probably my favorite thing about this game tbh

Marmot messaged me asking why I wanted to post it, I responded "it's just a really good episode"

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:21 am This isn't about the game as much as some things I learned from my role that I couldn't comment in without outing myself.

K2, Pakistan/China (8,611 m) - K2 is the second highest mountain in the world behind Everest, though it is actually far more deadly for mountain climbers (almost 25% death rate). K2 may write a message to the thread each night, warning of danger.

1. before this game I didn't even know Pakistan and China shared a border

2. 25% death rate is a lot lower of a death rate than I expected, I thought mountains were a lot more dangerous than that???? What's the fucking point. :/

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:13 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:11 amScooby Doo

that was probably my favorite thing about this game tbh

Marmot messaged me asking why I wanted to post it, I responded "it's just a really good episode"

The cool thing about K2 is the only mountain nobody has ever climbed to the top in the winter. If you do it you will bascally be the #1 mountain climber in the world.

So those 75% are the wusses who only do it in the summer. Or the people who tried in winter but were smart enough to give up before it was too late.

I was Logan.

My partner was probably [mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] sice I managed to check everyone else except Sloon and Nutella and those have different roles.

Well nice work civs. Definitely one of the best civ teams Ive ever seen.

And thanks for the gane, Marmot.

Did I just win my third syndicate game as civ in 2017? That's like three games higher than my previous record for civ wins in a year in this site.

Also

I now know what bad Jay looks like.

Feels like a weight has been lifted from.my shoulder.

And definitely the most satisfying lynch in this game.

So... I am finally not playing a mafia game. For the first time since August.

Feels like freedom.

Congrats to the town! I really enjoyed following this game, it was well played by all.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:08 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:35 am oh sweet we did it! fun game yall, thanks marmot!!

I guess speed didn't get his wincon, sorry dude

Nope, he did not. Great effort on his part and many others in this game.

It's getting late. I'm off to bed, but I'll reveal all the juicy goodness of this game tomorrow morning. There were definitely some interesting situations and events in this game.

One thing of note, the mafia never missed their kill. Except on purpose on Night 8. Otherwise, they killed every night.

Anyway, good night for now!

can i be correct about one thing in this game or no

I'm not even sad about this loss. There wasn't much we could have done given the position we were in -lack of a teammate, well protected civilians, several failed nightkills. I have to publicly thank my team for sticking around in btsc after being lynched. It's what let us get as far as we did. If it weren't for their gostly spirits helping us along, I would have given up much earlier as I knew our doom was inevitable.

Great game, all. Never seen such tireless effort as dunya's. Nice to know I can just bumble along and be wrong about literally everything, and still survive the whole game and become an Unofficial Confirmed Civ. I wish I could bottle the essence of that and spray it on every time I'm Mafia.

I was Mont Blanc. Not that anyone cared enough to acknowledge my claims of its existence, but my hint was:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:12 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:56 pm Epignosis, you're being needlessly difficult about this and while I'm enjoying talking with you about it I don't see it as being actually relevant to moving the game forward in any way. Its not my job to teach you basic symbolic logic.

Yet you keep trying.

I suspect you. And I'm not interested in "symbolic logic." I am interested in how you showed no interest in lynching 3J until it became a "thing" again.

You or LC will get my vote as it stands tomorrow.

Do what you must. There's no way I'm voting for you tomorrow.

And then I took Epi off the poll. Too subtle, I think, but hey, it's a no-infodump game, so I had to keep it legit.

good game thanks marmot for allowing me to sub in, juliets for listening to my frustrations, and everyone else who put effort into this. Great game, but can't say I'm not relieved it's over.

apart from tunneling on Jack before he died and feeling iffy about speed (who was the 3p tbf), I think I did okay.

speed, what was your win condition?

I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

Main thing I would like to see when Marmot morning comes around is a night-by-night recollection of how all those kills failed!

Oh, I was right about one thing - nijuu paid enough attention to deliberately no-kill to incriminate sig. Blooper, you were so marvellous!

Oh. My hint was that you guessed my win con LC.

GG town. Glad to have helped I guess. I've been even more frustrated than mafia this game. My win condition was to be taller than all living mountains put together, whether I was alive or dead. This was impossible for a few reasons.

1. I misunderstood and thought I had to live until late game.
2. I misunderstood and thought I had to win with town.
3. People wouldn't effing DIE! Seven missed deaths! No way I could recover from that. And mafia never even attempted to kill the tallest two mountains, as far as I know.

I think I played a good town game until endgame. At that point I tried to get lunched so scum could have an extra nightkill. No point to that either.

I tried too hard to help town, not knowing I could win with scum. Sorry scum. Though it was the neutered kills in this game that stopped you. And me.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

Sorry if I frustrated you dunya. I definitely want to play another game with you at some point.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

you broke his 4 day no lynch vote streak. We had to go 4 day phases with no votes on us to get NK immunity.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

you broke his 4 day no lynch vote streak. We had to go 4 day phases with no votes on us to get NK immunity.

I think he got upset since he was so close and Jay pushed for his lynch over other less inactive people.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am Oh. My hint was that you guessed my win con LC.

GG town. Glad to have helped I guess. I've been even more frustrated than mafia this game. My win condition was to be taller than all living mountains put together, whether I was alive or dead. This was impossible for a few reasons.

1. I misunderstood and thought I had to live until late game.
2. I misunderstood and thought I had to win with town.
3. People wouldn't effing DIE! Seven missed deaths! No way I could recover from that. And mafia never even attempted to kill the tallest two mountains, as far as I know.

I think I played a good town game until endgame. At that point I tried to get lunched so scum could have an extra nightkill. No point to that either.

I tried too hard to help town, not knowing I could win with scum. Sorry scum. Though it was the neutered kills in this game that stopped you. And me.

I thought so! Night 2, I activated my "Janssen Observatory - Blanc may use this rickety observatory to take a look at Olympus Mons, the Martian mountain."

This is what I got.

Rumors wrote:They say that Olympus Mons is the tallest known mountain in the Solar System. Well, if we're talking planets that's true. But look at this gathering of mountains. Olympus Mons may be the tallest here, but Mars honestly can't compete with Earth in this game. Not right now. 21 km is a mighty impressive distance, but is it tall enough?

It took a while for me to figure out what it meant, but I got it eventually, which allowed speedchuck, in all his Indy glory, to clear me.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

you broke his 4 day no lynch vote streak. We had to go 4 day phases with no votes on us to get NK immunity.

Oh yes, of course... I forgot for a sec there that you replaced him.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:51 am Sorry if I frustrated you dunya. I definitely want to play another game with you at some point.

right back at ya! I asked juliets if she could check on you after that one post cos I felt guilty and thought I broke speedchuck.

I was trying to die so that scum could get an extra nightkill in. And so you guys could read my role and find it in your hearts to lynch Nutella and Kyle for no reason. Ha.

I cleared Kyle as soon as I found out Wilgy wasn't K2. Wilgy was my top suspect but when I was trying to figure out who the hell K2 was, it was between him or Kyle in the end. Kyle was my read for K2 but that missed night message confused the hell out of me cos Kyle is literally always online and it just seemed impossible to me he would have missed deadline.

I was very desperate after I helped get half the scum team lynched.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:55 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:52 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:50 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:49 am I was Matterhorn. I guess you can understand why sprityo got frustrated some of ya'll were voting for him now. :P

No, I don't understand what you mean.

you broke his 4 day no lynch vote streak. We had to go 4 day phases with no votes on us to get NK immunity.

Oh yes, of course... I forgot for a sec there that you replaced him.

Yeah, I intentionally didn't read sprityo's posts because honestly, I am not him and it's not like I had a role that helps gleam info from anything. I went in and started iso'ing people, and Kyle found that suspicious. But I don't want anyone's opinions to cloud my own initially, so I read up and when I felt I had a good general grasp pf things, I went back and read from the start.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:00 am I was very desperate after I helped get half the scum team lynched.

Your reads on all players and leaving Wilgy and Eloh blank was so weird man, I'm gonna say it again. Still find it creepy

dunya, I assume you became invincible at some point?

yes, I never got voted once so after 3 days I was safe from NKs.

Apparently half the team was invincible. :P

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:06 am Apparently half the team was invincible. :P

My invincibility stemmed from my terrible Mafia gameplay. I was too awful to kill!

Amusing to discover that Olympus Mons was basically an anti-civilian role. The win condition may not literally state it, but if it's based on height and all the mafia are the shortest mountains, then, well...

I'm surprised I didn't get killed in those 3 nights tbh.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:10 am I'm surprised I didn't get killed in those 3 nights tbh.

You were the failed Night 5 kill. And Night 9.

wait what. how did I survive night 5 I don't think my thing was active then. It activated maybe night 6

oh that's right, I subbed in night 2 not night 3. so night 5 I would have been immune.

My rage progressively grew, though I restrained myself from losing my head.

~ I wasn't here for Day 1, but an actual lynch of either nutella or LC would have been a great help. FAILED, and nutella rides the credit to end game.

~ I was here for Night 1, and I knew killing Sloonei would be beneficial to slow the crazy pace of the game and to prevent a guy who knows me well from catching my bullshit. FAILED KILL.

~ Day 2, oh cool, we can lynch either Sloonei or Jack instead. That will help us recover a ton; they're both highly active. FAILED, and Sloonei rides the credit to his death.

~ Night 2, let's kill Epignosis. He's one of the people here who can absolutely lead a successful lynch of JJJ. FAILED KILL.

Nights 3 and 4 we were more conservative with our kill choices and finally people died. Unfortunately I got lynched along the way, primarily driven at EOD4 by the two people who were supposed to be corpses.

dunya joined the game in there too, and that introduced an entirely new threat in place of my favorite mislynch target. We couldn't kill her on her first night in the game because that's incredibly rude. So we tried on her second night. NOPE.

Oh my goodness this one drove me nuts.

Oh well though, it was fun, I enjoyed hanging out with my teammates in BTSC. Elohcin especially did a great job to hang in there as best as she could under impossible POE circumstances. nijuu joined this game in a pretty hopeless position and made it a lot of fun to continue following. Wilgy was busy like I was; shit happens my friend.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:08 am Amusing to discover that Olympus Mons was basically an anti-civilian role. The win condition may not literally state it, but if it's based on height and all the mafia are the shortest mountains, then, well...

I would have allied with you if it weren't for scums win condition being worded weird

Linki: it was obnoxious for me too. All I need is dead mountains. But nobody dies

I think I probably played a decent game here. Managed to get people to trust me and added a little to some lynches without tunneling too hard or getting in the way.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:02 am

-timmer 2013

5 failed night kills. So I accounted for 2 failed deaths. and one was intentional to "frame" sig. How did sloonei survive the kill? I thought he was Pico Cristóbal Colón and could stop 1 lynch. What was Epi's role?

Who will be flattened?
Poll ended at Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:55:20 pm
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes
Voters: None
dunya
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
nijuukyugou
6
38%
Voters: Dragon D. Luffy, dunya, Quin, Kylemii, Long Con, speedchuck
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Quin
2
13%
Voters: nutella, nijuukyugou
speedchuck
0
No votes
Voters: None
Marmot (Hosts/Nons/Deads)
8
50%
Voters: Sloonei, Jackofhearts2005, Epignosis, colonialbob, Marmot, JaggedJimmyJay, juliets, Elohcin
Total votes: 16

Mount Everest - nutella
K2 - Kylemii
Aconcagua - Epignosis
Chimborazo - Dom malakim2099
Denali - Spacedaisy
Mount Logan - Dragon D. Luffy
Mount Kilimanjaro - Quin
Pico Cristóbal Colón - Sloonei
Mount Elbrus - colonialbob
Pico de Orizaba - Jackofhearts2005
Mount Kenya - sig
Puncak Jaya - Mesk514
Mont Blanc - Long Con
Matterhorn - sprityo dunya

Sutter Buttes - Glorfindel insertnamehere nijuukyugou
Wrekin - Elohcin
Mount Wycheproof - DrWilgy
Chocolate Hills - MovingPictures07 JaggedJimmyJay

Olympus Mons - speedchuck

Note - Matterhorn's ability was revealed as public when it activated.



Matterhorn, Italy/Switzerland (4,478 m) - Matterhorn is known less for its height, and more for its almost perfect pyramidal shape, with 4 ridges rising up to an obvious peak. It is still one of the highest peaks in the European Alps. --- Secrets --- If you manage to finish four separate day periods with 0 votes, you will become immune to all active night actions for the rest of the game.


Olympus Mons, Mars (21,230 m) - Olympus Mons is the highest known mountain in the Solar System. --- Secrets --- As such, your goal is to be the tallest mountain in the game. At the game’s end, your height must exceed the sum of the heights of all other living mountains.

we knew all these things come on, give us the juicy info. or do I have to wait till ungodly hours

DAY 1

nutella - Vote increased by 1*
sprityo - Took no votes (1)

nutella's vote was enough to make the lynch a tie, and thus save herself from certain death by lynch.

Result - No one lynched



NIGHT 1

Kylemii - Posted message
Spacedaisy - Check if Sloonei is Logan - False
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if speedchuck is Denali - False
Quin - Isolates himself - Immune to night actions
colonialbob - peek at Epignosis - Result was Town (True)
Mesk514 - Targeted speedchuck with curse
Long Con - Tunnel - Switched nutella and Elohcin**

Glorfindel - Hide DrWilgy
Elohcin - Nightkill Sloonei
DrWilgy - Negates one action
MovingPictures07 - Roleblock Jackofhearts2005

**This was a very strange situation. Any actions and chosen targets that nutella and Elohcin were involved with were switched. As such, since nutella had no targets, Elohcin targeted no one with the nightkill. Bad luck for mafia, as Long Con essentially blocked the nightkill.

Result - No one died



DAY 2

nutella - Vote increased by 1
Quin - Vote decreased by 1
sprityo - Took votes
Sloonei - Stopped lynch***

The poll would have ended 6-4-4 (Jackofhearts2005-Sloonei-sprityo), but Sloonei stopped the lynch, assuring no one would die.

Result: No one lynched



NIGHT 2

Kylemii - Posted message
Spacedaisy - Check if colonialbob is Logan - False
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if JackofHearts2005 is Denali - False
colonialbob - peek at Sloonei - Result was Mafia (False)
Long Con - Observatory - Received info on Olympus Mons

insertnamehere - Hide Elohcin
Elohcin - Nightkill Epignosis****
DrWilgy - Negates one action
MovingPictures07 - Roleblock Sloonei

****Epignosis had a one-time immunity, which was used on this night.

Result: No one died



DAY 3

nutella - Vote increased by 1
dunya - Took no votes (2)

Elohcin - Vote total decreased by 1

Result: Mesk514 lynched



NIGHT 3

malakim2099 - Borrowed Everest's power
Spacedaisy - Check if Epignosis is Logan - False
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if Epignosis is Denali - False

insertnamehere - Hide JaggedJimmyJay
Elohcin - Nightkill Spacedaisy
DrWilgy - Negates one action
JaggedJimmyJay - Roleblock dunya

Result: Spacedaisy nightkilled



DAY 4

malakim2099 - Vote increased by 1
dunya - Took no votes (3)
JaggedJimmyJay - Vote total decreased by 1

Result: JaggedJimmyJay lynched



NIGHT 4

Kylemii - Posted message
malakim2099 - Borrowed Everest's power
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if sig is Denali - False
Long Con - Cable Car on Epignosis

insertnamehere - Hide DrWilgy
Elohcin - Nightkill Jackofhearts2005
DrWilgy - Negates one action

Result: Jackofhearts2005 lynched



DAY 5

Epignosis - Removed from lynch poll
malakim2099 - Vote increased by 1
dunya - Took no votes (4)

Result: malakim2099 lynched



NIGHT 5

Kylemii - Posted message
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if dunya is Denali - False

insertnamehere - Hide DrWilgy
Elohcin - Nightkill dunya*****
DrWilgy - Negates one action

*****dunya just reached her fourth day without votes, and would thus be immune to nightkills the rest of the game.

Result: No one died



DAY 6

nutella - Vote increased by 1

Result: colonialbob lynched



NIGHT 6

Kylemii - Posted message
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if insertnamehere is Denali - False

insertnamehere - Hide Elohcin
Elohcin - Nightkill Epignosis
DrWilgy - Negates one action

Result: Epignosis nightkilled



DAY 7

nutella - Vote increased by 1

Elohcin - Vote total decreased by 1

Result: DrWilgy lynched



NIGHT 7

Kylemii - Posted message
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if Quin is Denali - False

Glorfindel - Hide Elohcin
Elohcin - Nightkill Sloonei

Result: Sloonei nightkilled



DAY 8

nutella - Vote increased by 1

Elohcin - Vote total decreased by 1

Result: Elohcin lynched



NIGHT 8

Kylemii - Posted message
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if Kylemii is Denali - False

nijuukyugou - Nightkill no one

Result: No one died



DAY 9

nutella - Vote increased by 1

Result: sig lynched



NIGHT 9

Kylemii - Posted message
Dragon D. Luffy - Check if Long Con is Denali - False

nijuukyugou - Nightkill dunya

Result: No one died



DAY 10

nutella - Vote increased by 1

Result: nijuukyugou lynched

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:16 pm we knew all these things come on, give us the juicy info. or do I have to wait till ungodly hours

It's here now.

Had to combine it all into one pretty post.



I've got some more things to say and add, but I've got to run to work for a little bit. I'll be back with some more feedback, kudos, and general thoughts later on.

Now that y'all know what went on behind the scenes, let the flaming begin.