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Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:39 pm
by Kent Brockman
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 pm
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:18 pm I'm also concerned about the fact that Juliet is trying to imply they are Dr. Wilgy. Why? If it is Wilgyi would be inclined to think he is good, but if it is not actually Wilgy, I am inclined to think they are trying to appear as Wilgy to look more benign.
I do not know why you would assume that, or what relevance it would have on the alignment of Juliet.
Catch up on your reading. I was the one who suggested gimmicks, and Juliet is following that, I think.

I am employing a gimmick as well, though a subtle one.
Why did you feel the need to say this? Isn't it implied that Golf would?

Baddie team is GIK or JIG

Thing-a-ma-JIG

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:42 pm
by Spooky Ghost
It is what it is, but I'm not super pleased about our one and only info opportunity being used as leverage to keep a single player alive instead of allowing for the possibility for the mafia to trip that wire and give the rest of us some context.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:45 pm
by Lunatella
No I am not bad. But frankly I joined this game to help fill the game out, so lynch me if you want. I won't cry over it, especially given the fact that there are no flips. I think it's unlikely the civs can possibly win this so whatever. I'm pretty uninvested.

Also, why would I distance from teammates like that if there are no flips? This is what I was trying to decide about Kilo...

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:46 pm
by Lunatella
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:39 pm
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 pm
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:18 pm I'm also concerned about the fact that Juliet is trying to imply they are Dr. Wilgy. Why? If it is Wilgyi would be inclined to think he is good, but if it is not actually Wilgy, I am inclined to think they are trying to appear as Wilgy to look more benign.
I do not know why you would assume that, or what relevance it would have on the alignment of Juliet.
Catch up on your reading. I was the one who suggested gimmicks, and Juliet is following that, I think.

I am employing a gimmick as well, though a subtle one.
Why did you feel the need to say this? Isn't it implied that Golf would?

Baddie team is GIK or JIG

Thing-a-ma-JIG
So you get no information and you set up two more lynches based on lynching me, all while getting no results? You know what, please do lynch me. This game with no flips severely handicaps the civs. I do not wish to invest more time into a game I very likely cannot win.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:48 pm
by Kent Brockman
I wouldn't mind giving my life to lynch India right now.

Lynch India today lynch me tomorrow? How's that sound?
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:45 pm No I am not bad. But frankly I joined this game to help fill the game out, so lynch me if you want. I won't cry over it, especially given the fact that there are no flips. I think it's unlikely the civs can possibly win this so whatever. I'm pretty uninvested.

Also, why would I distance from teammates like that if there are no flips? This is what I was trying to decide about Kilo...
buddy buddy patterns are still recognizable.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:57 pm
by Lunatella
And mistaken. I have no btsc with anyone and I'm not bad, but you've already decided I do and am. Buddy buddy arguments are tenuous at best.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:59 pm
by Spooky Ghost
some of you nerds wrote:Oh no, this game is a little bit difficult. I guess we should all just give up, and stop trying to win forever. :disappoint:
It's only day 1, why are you guys already deciding what we can't do?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:00 pm
by Kent Brockman
Because I'm pregnant.

Kilo is the father. I told you to wear protection bae.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:01 pm
by sprityo
There seems to be an issue. Perhaps the limited power roles were more a detriment to the setup rules than anything?

I will poll tonight if you all wish for me to reveal alignments upon lynches

But nothing more than that

Apologies for the discomfort

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:02 pm
by sprityo
Alpha wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:59 pm
some of you nerds wrote:Oh no, this game is a little bit difficult. I guess we should all just give up, and stop trying to win forever. :disappoint:
It's only day 1, why are you guys already deciding what we can't do?
:clap:

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:21 pm
by Julinook
About to see Star Wars and I don't know if I'll be back for the deadline. I'm staying on Kilo. Reference my posts to find the reasoning.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:30 pm
by Spooky Ghost
Next letter to complain about game mechanics will earn my eternal ire.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:33 pm
by Echo
LETTER H IS HERE BITCHES!

Gotta catch up, haven't had a chance to read anything yet. Will do that now.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:40 pm
by Echo
Juliet wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:36 pm I switched my vote to a non-poster for now. @Hotel

I'm happy to lynch such a player today.
Not cool, man. Not cool.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:50 pm
by Echo
Reads after quickly skimming the thread:

Town:
A
G
E

Mafia:
C
F

I'll vote to save G.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:51 pm
by Echo
Not sure what to think of J. Would prefer to avoid that but will vote there if necessary. I'll vote C for now.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:52 pm
by Chuck
Foxtrot is scared of my ability to hunt.

Complaining about game mechanics is dumb. I have played no flip games before. It is doable, though usually utilizes more power roles. Complaints should have happened when the game was proposed.

My phone is destroying all effort to post.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:57 pm
by Spooky Ghost
[mention]Foxtrot[/mention] what was the deal with your vote for India?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm
by Kent Brockman
India why didn't you respond? To my accusation before stating "She's scared of my hunting?"

India's comment towards G was very scummy. Instructing one to catch up is just needless coaching. It was an empty sentence that was disgenuine.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:14 pm
by Kent Brockman
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:50 pm Reads after quickly skimming the thread:

Town:
A
G
E

Mafia:
C
F

I'll vote to save G.
Why?

So far I've noticed empty posts from H and I

Hi.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm
by Chuck
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm India why didn't you respond? To my accusation before stating "She's scared of my hunting?"

India's comment towards G was very scummy. Instructing one to catch up is just needless coaching. It was an empty sentence that was disgenuine.
In my comment to G, I was referencing their seeming ignorance to the origin of the gimmicks, which is me.

These happened in the pages G missed, while their internet was gone.

I dislike explaining everything I do. Your line of suspicion is baseless.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:32 pm
by Kent Brockman
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm India why didn't you respond? To my accusation before stating "She's scared of my hunting?"

India's comment towards G was very scummy. Instructing one to catch up is just needless coaching. It was an empty sentence that was disgenuine.
In my comment to G, I was referencing their seeming ignorance to the origin of the gimmicks, which is me.

These happened in the pages G missed, while their internet was gone.

I dislike explaining everything I do. Your line of suspicion is baseless.
"Was It genuine or not?" is the core of each mafia question. India you werent genuine there. You arent genuine in your response to me. Explaining what you do when asked is part of the game.

Calling my line of suspicion which is "you were not genuine" baseless is a dumb argument. How is it baseless?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:40 pm
by Spooky Ghost
moving my vote to Delta to see if anything shakes out of the 4 way tie

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:47 pm
by Principal Skinner
Huh, poll is still screwed up and showing Kilo at one vote but both Bravo and I show up as voting for Kilo so it should be two.

[mention]Hotel[/mention] can you explain why you suspect me and why you suspect Foxtrot?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:50 pm
by Spooky Ghost
Charlie wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:47 pm Huh, poll is still screwed up and showing Kilo at one vote but both Bravo and I show up as voting for Kilo so it should be two.

@Hotel can you explain why you suspect me and why you suspect Foxtrot?
Could you and @Bravo move your votes off of and then back onto Kilo? That might fix it.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:52 pm
by Principal Skinner
Alpha wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:50 pm
Charlie wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:47 pm Huh, poll is still screwed up and showing Kilo at one vote but both Bravo and I show up as voting for Kilo so it should be two.

@Hotel can you explain why you suspect me and why you suspect Foxtrot?
Could you and @Bravo move your votes off of and then back onto Kilo? That might fix it.
Nope, didn't work. Showed zero and "Bravo, none" as the voters. So Bravo is "zero" apparently.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:53 pm
by Principal Skinner
[mention]Bravo[/mention] might work if you try that? Maybe?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:54 pm
by Principal Skinner
As of now that's a four-way tie anyway... and we get no flip out of it regardless. Sigh. I feel as lost as a goldfish named Charlie.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:00 pm
by Spooky Ghost
To be honest the attitude towards this lynch has made me lose my excitement a little. It seems like the more relevant choice now is whether we vote for "yes flips" or "no flips"

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:07 pm
by Kent Brockman
Tbh I'm at a quandary.

The game is intended for no flips. I'm ok with that.

I feel bad if mafia end up having a harder that promised time if we vote on this. There's also the issue of would a vote such as this provide info the civs wouldn't normally have?

I just want fair fun play for both teams.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:11 pm
by Kent Brockman
But still. We really need to kill India.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:12 pm
by Kylemii
I want to play the game Sprityo intended us to play, I think the unusual mechanics could be a fun challenge. If people are gonna be weird and negative the whole time about the game being too hard or whatever then that sounds like a bad time though.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:13 pm
by Kent Brockman
I agree with the rogue Pokemon trainer.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:41 pm
by Lunatella
Moved my vote again for self preservation. Though it is tempting to just leave it up to chance because I'm not invested, it's also not fair to the other civs to intentionally put myself in the noose.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:42 pm
by Lunatella
Voted Charlie

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:45 pm
by Kent Brockman
Golf, vote India.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:48 pm
by Echo
Alpha wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:57 pm @Foxtrot what was the deal with your vote for India?
What's the deal with airplane food?

Oh, wait, wrong game.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:49 pm
by Echo
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:14 pm
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:50 pm Reads after quickly skimming the thread:

Town:
A
G
E

Mafia:
C
F

I'll vote to save G.
Why?

So far I've noticed empty posts from H and I

Hi.
Just tone reads really. I don't have any thoughts on I.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:50 pm
by Spacedaisy
Get someone else to voted there and I will. Right now a vote for India will leave me tied for the lead. I could be convinced to switch to Kilo, for the fact they parked their vote on me even though they voiced suspicion for Charlie voting there. Or to stay on Charlie.

I think your vote for India makes more sense than most people's votes in this game so far.

I think I will actually switch my vote to Kilo for the time being. I feel more comfortable voting for him instead of Charlie for the above mentioned reasons, I just overlooked him because of the weirdness going on with the poll.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:50 pm
by Echo
Charlie wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:47 pm Huh, poll is still screwed up and showing Kilo at one vote but both Bravo and I show up as voting for Kilo so it should be two.

@Hotel can you explain why you suspect me and why you suspect Foxtrot?
Just aren't sure if either of you is genuine. Foxtrot seems a bit OTT in a disingenuous way, and your posting seems... detached, for lack of a better word.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:51 pm
by Kent Brockman
I agree with the rogue gun.

H vote India with me.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:52 pm
by Spacedaisy
derp, oh well.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm
by Echo
I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:54 pm
by Echo
Who are these non-letters? Get out of here with your lack of alphabetness!

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:55 pm
by Echo
I guess I could move. I don't have strong thoughts at this stage.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
by Kent Brockman
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?
Your claim of who was good and bad had nothing behind it. It was empty.

I can work with it being tone as you described. What do you think triggered those tone reads?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
by Echo
I also don't like how K parked their vote on G and just fucked off. I'll move there for now.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Lunatella
He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Echo
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?
Your claim of who was good and bad had nothing behind it. It was empty.

I can work with it being tone as you described. What do you think triggered those tone reads?
Haha, I mean "I" the letter, not myself. But cool. FWIW I'm less sure about both of you since you've both posted recently and I've caught up than I was when I was reading posts. I just thought C seemed a bit nervous and detached in tone, and yours seemed supatown but in a fake way. I don't feel remotely confident in either of those assessments currently.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:59 pm
by Echo
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?
Oh, okay. I must have missed that. Entirely possible since I read things super quickly. I could vote "I" as well then. Either that or "K".