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Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:51 pm
by Kent Brockman
I agree with the rogue gun.

H vote India with me.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:52 pm
by Spacedaisy
derp, oh well.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm
by Echo
I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:54 pm
by Echo
Who are these non-letters? Get out of here with your lack of alphabetness!

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:55 pm
by Echo
I guess I could move. I don't have strong thoughts at this stage.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
by Kent Brockman
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?
Your claim of who was good and bad had nothing behind it. It was empty.

I can work with it being tone as you described. What do you think triggered those tone reads?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
by Echo
I also don't like how K parked their vote on G and just fucked off. I'll move there for now.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Lunatella
He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm
by Echo
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:56 pm
Hotel wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:53 pm I don't understand why I is suspicious. F, explain?
Your claim of who was good and bad had nothing behind it. It was empty.

I can work with it being tone as you described. What do you think triggered those tone reads?
Haha, I mean "I" the letter, not myself. But cool. FWIW I'm less sure about both of you since you've both posted recently and I've caught up than I was when I was reading posts. I just thought C seemed a bit nervous and detached in tone, and yours seemed supatown but in a fake way. I don't feel remotely confident in either of those assessments currently.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:59 pm
by Echo
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?
Oh, okay. I must have missed that. Entirely possible since I read things super quickly. I could vote "I" as well then. Either that or "K".

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:00 pm
by Echo
We only have like 1 minute until EoD though, right?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:00 pm
by Echo
Nevermind, guess it's over?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:00 pm
by Echo
Upon reflection I think C's avatar made him/her seem more detached. Lol.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:02 pm
by Echo
Now we play the waiting game.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:03 pm
by Kent Brockman
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?
Close. Being honest I didn't know if you were caught up or not. It was irrelevant.

India's interaction with you G was completely disgenuine. India's reaction to me calling that disgenuine was also disgenuine and did not stem from a positive Civ mindset.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:05 pm
by Lunatella
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:03 pm
Golf wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?
Close. Being honest I didn't know if you were caught up or not. It was irrelevant.

India's interaction with you G was completely disgenuine. India's reaction to me calling that disgenuine was also disgenuine and did not stem from a positive Civ mindset.
I find you one of the more trustworthy players right now.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm
by Kent Brockman
You flatter me Golf. What are your thoughts on Alpha?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:15 pm
by sprityo
Kilo has been lynched

Night 1 begins and will end in 24 hours

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:18 pm
by sprityo
If you are interested in revealing alignments upon lynch bring it up in your chatzy

Everyone else please submit your night action if you have one

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:31 pm
by Chuck
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:32 pm
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:29 pm
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:12 pm India why didn't you respond? To my accusation before stating "She's scared of my hunting?"

India's comment towards G was very scummy. Instructing one to catch up is just needless coaching. It was an empty sentence that was disgenuine.
In my comment to G, I was referencing their seeming ignorance to the origin of the gimmicks, which is me.

These happened in the pages G missed, while their internet was gone.

I dislike explaining everything I do. Your line of suspicion is baseless.
"Was It genuine or not?" is the core of each mafia question. India you werent genuine there. You arent genuine in your response to me. Explaining what you do when asked is part of the game.

Calling my line of suspicion which is "you were not genuine" baseless is a dumb argument. How is it baseless?
You suspect me of coaching, as I understand it. I was not doing so, as is clear from the context. Your suspicion is founded on an incomplete perspective of my post.

When I see suspicion directed my way, I respond if I think it deserves response. But you took a target sentence 'You should catch up' which I firmly believe you would have called out in any context as a scumtell, and directed suspicion at that.

It is not a scumtell. It is a perfectly valid sentence that, in context, was telling Golf that his argument was flawed.

I consider arguments like this to be foolish, and easy to exploit to spur mislynches. I would have voted for you if it weren't for Hanlon's razor. And, well, the fear that you will take my vote as a 'no u' and enter recursive fallacious suspicion.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm
by Spooky Ghost
I fell asleep.

Did anyone peep the end of day phase poll with their eyeballs who can tell me what it looked like? Was it still a tie or did Kilo receive a majority of votes?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm
by Chuck
It appears that I missed an entire page before posting that.

Rest in peace, K. Those who lynched you are probably scum. I see nothing in your posts worth the animosity.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 pm
by Chuck
[mention]Foxtrot[/mention] Would my alignment depend on the alignment of Golf?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:44 pm
by Lunatella
Foxtrot wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm You flatter me Golf. What are your thoughts on Alpha?
I have literally zero thoughts on Alpha.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:46 pm
by Lunatella
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm It appears that I missed an entire page before posting that.

Rest in peace, K. Those who lynched you are probably scum. I see nothing in your posts worth the animosity.
:rolleyes:

So you would not find it suspicious if Kilo had voted for you because he was "not leaving it up to chance" but then turned around and questioned the sincerity and reasoning of someone else voting for you, but left his vote parked on you even so? That was what led me to vote Kilo.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:47 pm
by Lunatella
Alpha wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm I fell asleep.

Did anyone peep the end of day phase poll with their eyeballs who can tell me what it looked like? Was it still a tie or did Kilo receive a majority of votes?
Kilo received the majority. I don't know what the vote counts were, but he had four maybe? I had 2 and I think Charlie had 2, a couple others had one. I don't remember who all though. India had 1.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:50 pm
by Lunatella
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 pm @Foxtrot Would my alignment depend on the alignment of Golf?
That is a weird question to ask. You know if you are scum or not, just like I know I am not scum. And if there are not flips, what impact does that question have? Unless it makes a difference for how you vote as far as whether or not to be in favor of flips. Why does this question even matter, what is your angle?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:01 am
by Paprika
I am voting Yes on alignment-reveals.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:21 am
by Julinook
Reference point after EOD1:

Alpha 56
Foxtrot 38
Bravo 34
India 28
Golf 21
Echo 20
Charlie 17
Hotel 17
sprityo 14
Juliet 11
Kilo 8
Spacedaisy 2
dunya 1
Kylemii 1

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:26 am
by Julinook
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm It appears that I missed an entire page before posting that.

Rest in peace, K. Those who lynched you are probably scum. I see nothing in your posts worth the animosity.
Number of times you mentioned "K" or "Kilo" prior to the deadline: zero

If you felt this way, why did you wait until after the lynch had been finalized to voice it?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:39 am
by Saito
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Don't skimp on the storyline, Sprityo. This theme is awesome.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:42 am
by Saito
Good luck whichever team I was on. Beat that other team! :workit:

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:42 am
by Chuck
Bravo wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:26 am
India wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm It appears that I missed an entire page before posting that.

Rest in peace, K. Those who lynched you are probably scum. I see nothing in your posts worth the animosity.
Number of times you mentioned "K" or "Kilo" prior to the deadline: zero

If you felt this way, why did you wait until after the lynch had been finalized to voice it?
Exactly this. The outcome surprised me, as I was not here for it. Kilo had made zero impression on me. I looked at Kilo posts, and I found nothing bad of note. In a game where everyone had legitimate suspicions, this lynch was too easy. I very much doubt it was scum.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:45 am
by Paprika
What was that crap about Juliet being Wilgy, and therefore town?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 5:33 pm
by Principal Skinner
Quiet night... the rules say the thread will be locked during night phases but it's not, but nobody is posting. [mention]sprityo[/mention] should we not be posting during the night? Should the thread actually be locked?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:17 pm
by sprityo
Errr I actually forgot about that rule.....

No worries I’ll just remove the rule since you guys will need all the discussion you can get

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:51 pm
by Principal Skinner
Okay cool. There were a couple things I was going to comment on then.

[mention]India[/mention] were you not around for any of the time Kilo was getting votes? I don't think you missed all of it because Bravo expressed suspicion of Kilo long before EOD, and I followed that. If you had some reason to object to those suspicions, or some specific reason to think Kilo was town, you could have said something. And what did you mean by this sentence: "In a game where everyone had legitimate suspicions, this lynch was too easy." ? Do you mean hypothetically if there were legitimate suspicions, or do you believe there were actually more legitimate suspicions that were better options for this day 1? Because I think, at least for Bravo and me (not sure about the other 2? who voted there), the Kilo suspicion was a legitimate enough one.

[mention]Foxtrot[/mention], I don't get why you so strongly suspect(ed) India. Is there more to your suspicion than the bit about telling Golf to catch up? Because that's really weak. You haven't answered yet whether your suspicion of India is entirely dependent on their being buddies with Golf or not, so I would like to second that question. Do you have any other reasons to suspect either of them independently of each other?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:02 pm
by Chuck
Charlie wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:51 pm @India were you not around for any of the time Kilo was getting votes? I don't think you missed all of it because Bravo expressed suspicion of Kilo long before EOD, and I followed that. If you had some reason to object to those suspicions, or some specific reason to think Kilo was town, you could have said something. And what did you mean by this sentence: "In a game where everyone had legitimate suspicions, this lynch was too easy." ? Do you mean hypothetically if there were legitimate suspicions, or do you believe there were actually more legitimate suspicions that were better options for this day 1? Because I think, at least for Bravo and me (not sure about the other 2? who voted there), the Kilo suspicion was a legitimate enough one.
I may have missed any significant suspicion on Kilo. I was using my phone at the time, which leaves me prone to skim the posts. I do not recall any discussion about Kilo. Certainly do not remember any objections to the lynch, which is key.

Looking at Kilo's ISO, I get the feeling that they were an easy target who fell through the cracks.

I believe that J was a better option, for that is where my vote was. F seemed to think that I was a better option. But nobody heeded our arguments, and the majority voted with no fuss. It bothers me.

And now we cannot spell dick.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:29 pm
by Principal Skinner
We can spell dicc though

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:32 pm
by sprityo
Reminder, Day starts in 1.5 hours

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:38 pm
by Spooky Ghost
India wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:02 pmAnd now we cannot spell dick.
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Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:25 pm
by Spooky Ghost
If I should die tonight I will do so with only one regret; the regret that I failed to complete my most sacred mission.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:37 pm
by Chuck
If I die, lynch . . . Echo?

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:00 pm
by sprityo
Day 2


“Time’s up.” The voice said. In that instant the lights flashed and when they returned not but a few seconds later. India was gone. Disintegrated by the looks, his clothes in a heap on the floor. They checked the pockets in case he had anything on him, what they found was surprising. A note he had snagged off of another scientist earlier detailing about a mission to steal their research. They all looked to Echo now as it appears he had been foiled.


INDIA HAS DIED IN THE NIGHT

ECHO HAS BEEN REVEALED AS A
DISGUISER

Day 2 ends in 48 hours

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:03 pm
by sprityo
A Majority was not reached.

There will be no reveals upon lynches. The game continues as normal

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:05 pm
by Spooky Ghost
Well that's definitely a plot twist.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:11 pm
by Spooky Ghost
India wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:37 pm If I die, lynch . . . Echo?
Vowel unity.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:12 pm
by Julinook
lol excellent

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:17 pm
by Julinook
Poll doesn't work on my phone. Voting Echo whenever it lets me.

This provides a great solving opportunity. Echo is the disguiser and his teammates may be identifiable in his posts (including or not including Kilo) It'll be muddier than usual perhaps given the no flip dynamic. I'll take a look a bit later.

Re: Phenon: Origins Mafia [Day 1]

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:21 pm
by Spooky Ghost
India wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:26 pmDisguiser is a scary role. I want them to sweat.
India is a fucking badass.