Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Good to know. The first part, at least. I usually use that as a tell.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:26 pm PS: I've been accused of avoiding responsibility for my posts as a townie plenty. But people who say so are mongrels/disgusting.
Yes. If you click the link I provided in response to your prior question, you'll find yourself directed to the entire post history of... Bravo.
And then Jack asks him to what end Jack would do what Jimmy accuses him of doing. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p389638Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:49 pm Wait just a minute. When Jimmy is bad.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p389564
He frames Jack!
I knew all of this. I just want the class to hear it.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:38 amI uh got my start playing on RYM about 7 years ago, then migrated here in 2015, taking up permanent residence with the death of RYM's OT board. Two years ago I was a finalist in MafiaUniverse's Tournament of Champions and I've been a part of many games here on the Syndicate.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:22 amHello lapluie, I am Marmot.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:33 pm Before you try to figure out what's going on, lapluie, I suggest you introduce yourself to all these fine folks who haven't had the pleasure of meeting you. Tell us who you are, what your mafia experience is, and what your general impression of this game is. please and thank you.
Sloonei, could you tell me your mafia experience pls.
But you're still here!! Or at least I think you are.
I voted chaos for the same reason.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:03 amI don’t think so for today. If you want to I would recommend voting for chaos cause it sounds fun.
I've developed a craving for beer.nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:55 am ... I completely forgot about this game for like eight hours, came back and read 5 more pages but there doesn't seem to have been a ton of development since then and also the poll is still going to tomorrow apparently. So I don't really have much to add atm, no particular reason to suspect anyone yet imo. I saw that Mac (I think?) said something about me so I'll find that one sec
Do you expect every player who makes > 4 posts to include a read somewhere in there?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:15 am TonyStarkPrime appeared, made four posts in response to things in this thread, and none of them contained reads. I am outraged.
I have liked everything this fellow says. He's a civilian.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:49 amJaggedJimmyJay is bad.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:15 am TonyStarkPrime appeared, made four posts in response to things in this thread, and none of them contained reads. I am outraged.
I sure framed Kilo.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:49 pm Wait just a minute. When Jimmy is bad.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p389564
He frames Jack!
Are you the sort of person who can be moved by a case on anyone (not just Quin)?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 amRight? This is the main reason I'm not moved by any case on Quin.
The worst I can say about him is that he's tone pinging me a little earlier than usual. The accusations of genuinely trying to read people on Day 0? Weak.
I'm actually okay with Mac (old buddy old pal let me pocket you eh?) doing it cause I think it fits Mac's style but I don't see where Jimmy is coming from. I guess Jimmy is a at-the-wall thrower in the vein of Sloonei and MP but with his self imposed restriction, the weak case on Quin becomes a large part of Jimmy's content and paints him in a bad light. Hard to not be disappointed but the important part is if the root cause of Jimmy's overall posting being disappointing because he's not giving the 110% I'm used to or because he's bad.
Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmI sure framed Kilo.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:49 pm Wait just a minute. When Jimmy is bad.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p389564
He frames Jack!
I had no clue who Kilo was though.
I expect every post to contain a read. I expect every sentence to contain a read. I expect every letter to contain a read. I expect every phoneme to contain a read. I expect unique reads to be generated by the trillions during each minuscule neural interaction within the brain.
Yoyoyo the Beta man is wackJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmI sure framed Kilo.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:49 pm Wait just a minute. When Jimmy is bad.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p389564
He frames Jack!
I had no clue who Kilo was though.
I'll write you a letter. I hope you read it. It's full of more letters and more reads.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:00 pmI expect every post to contain a read. I expect every sentence to contain a read. I expect every letter to contain a read. I expect every phoneme to contain a read. I expect unique reads to be generated by the trillions during each minuscule neural interaction within the brain.
I don't really ask for that much.
I can be moved by cases. I'm a sucker for lengthy cases on people I don't have a firm read on. Hence previous game musings about my failings in distinguishing bad townie play from actual baddies.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmAre you the sort of person who can be moved by a case on anyone (not just Quin)?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 amRight? This is the main reason I'm not moved by any case on Quin.
The worst I can say about him is that he's tone pinging me a little earlier than usual. The accusations of genuinely trying to read people on Day 0? Weak.
I'm actually okay with Mac (old buddy old pal let me pocket you eh?) doing it cause I think it fits Mac's style but I don't see where Jimmy is coming from. I guess Jimmy is a at-the-wall thrower in the vein of Sloonei and MP but with his self imposed restriction, the weak case on Quin becomes a large part of Jimmy's content and paints him in a bad light. Hard to not be disappointed but the important part is if the root cause of Jimmy's overall posting being disappointing because he's not giving the 110% I'm used to or because he's bad.
I am.
And also because I want to take advantage of his rep for finding scum on gut and assist with his seeming inability to pursue those gut reads to their logical conclusions. Low sample size may be causing me to misevaluate both skills in Mac. We'll see.)I'm afraid we're just not close enough for my subconscious mind to be driven so specifically by the actions of Jackofhearts2005, in full disguise, and I think about 8 living Kilo posts. In that game, I saw a player doing very little who could be smeared, and I capitalized. Do you really believe that it makes sense to draw a parallel to a sock account game wherein neither of us could really know who the other was on Day 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 pm Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?
So you like a Day 1 where we reach T-2 hours and 5 different players have 2-3 votes? Mmmmm, chaos.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:05 pmI can be moved by cases. I'm a sucker for lengthy cases on people I don't have a firm read on. Hence previous game musings about my failings in distinguishing bad townie play from actual baddies.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmAre you the sort of person who can be moved by a case on anyone (not just Quin)?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 amRight? This is the main reason I'm not moved by any case on Quin.
The worst I can say about him is that he's tone pinging me a little earlier than usual. The accusations of genuinely trying to read people on Day 0? Weak.
I'm actually okay with Mac (old buddy old pal let me pocket you eh?) doing it cause I think it fits Mac's style but I don't see where Jimmy is coming from. I guess Jimmy is a at-the-wall thrower in the vein of Sloonei and MP but with his self imposed restriction, the weak case on Quin becomes a large part of Jimmy's content and paints him in a bad light. Hard to not be disappointed but the important part is if the root cause of Jimmy's overall posting being disappointing because he's not giving the 110% I'm used to or because he's bad.
I am.
I like being contrary, though. Hence, sticking my neck out to fight Day 0/Day 1 cases against people, sometimes leading to accusations of buddying. (This is separate from accusations of buddying Mac. That's just cause I was very amused by Mac in a previous game and I want us to be pals.
@Newplayers, feel free to ignore my selfcentered musings. I do this a lot. I'm town so you don't need to try to figure out what I'm talking about.
Idk. Why did you like to that game then?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:07 pmI'm afraid we're just not close enough for my subconscious mind to be driven so specifically by the actions of Jackofhearts2005, in full disguise, and I think about 8 living Kilo posts. In that game, I saw a player doing very little who could be smeared, and I capitalized. Do you really believe that it makes sense to draw a parallel to a sock account game wherein neither of us could really know who the other was on Day 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 pm Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?
God, no. I hate when there's a consensus but it isn't reflected in the votes and then somebody else is lynched with a case starting at hour 46 cause maybe I'm not around or not caught up.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:08 pmSo you like a Day 1 where we reach T-2 hours and 5 different players have 2-3 votes? Mmmmm, chaos.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:05 pmI can be moved by cases. I'm a sucker for lengthy cases on people I don't have a firm read on. Hence previous game musings about my failings in distinguishing bad townie play from actual baddies.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmAre you the sort of person who can be moved by a case on anyone (not just Quin)?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 amRight? This is the main reason I'm not moved by any case on Quin.
The worst I can say about him is that he's tone pinging me a little earlier than usual. The accusations of genuinely trying to read people on Day 0? Weak.
I'm actually okay with Mac (old buddy old pal let me pocket you eh?) doing it cause I think it fits Mac's style but I don't see where Jimmy is coming from. I guess Jimmy is a at-the-wall thrower in the vein of Sloonei and MP but with his self imposed restriction, the weak case on Quin becomes a large part of Jimmy's content and paints him in a bad light. Hard to not be disappointed but the important part is if the root cause of Jimmy's overall posting being disappointing because he's not giving the 110% I'm used to or because he's bad.
I am.
I like being contrary, though. Hence, sticking my neck out to fight Day 0/Day 1 cases against people, sometimes leading to accusations of buddying. (This is separate from accusations of buddying Mac. That's just cause I was very amused by Mac in a previous game and I want us to be pals.
@Newplayers, feel free to ignore my selfcentered musings. I do this a lot. I'm town so you don't need to try to figure out what I'm talking about.
Why are you encouraging people to ignore what you're talking about?
Idk. Why did you LINK to that game then?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:07 pmI'm afraid we're just not close enough for my subconscious mind to be driven so specifically by the actions of Jackofhearts2005, in full disguise, and I think about 8 living Kilo posts. In that game, I saw a player doing very little who could be smeared, and I capitalized. Do you really believe that it makes sense to draw a parallel to a sock account game wherein neither of us could really know who the other was on Day 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 pm Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?
Your posts are noticeably shorter than what I find customary.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:09 pm I'm actively trying to limit myself in this game, and I still find myself at 60 posts on Day 0.
This conversation has officially become bizarre. Why did I link that game?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:10 pmIdk. Why did you like to that game then?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:07 pmI'm afraid we're just not close enough for my subconscious mind to be driven so specifically by the actions of Jackofhearts2005, in full disguise, and I think about 8 living Kilo posts. In that game, I saw a player doing very little who could be smeared, and I capitalized. Do you really believe that it makes sense to draw a parallel to a sock account game wherein neither of us could really know who the other was on Day 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 pm Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?
I've been bad in three standard games on this site. I provided all of them to answer your question.
You're beautiful. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Let the newplayers look at your posts on full display! Let them dissect, inspect, and inflect on their true meaning. Let them discuss for pages and pages on the insightful musings you've graced this game with. Let them read!Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:12 pmGod, no. I hate when there's a consensus but it isn't reflected in the votes and then somebody else is lynched with a case starting at hour 46 cause maybe I'm not around or not caught up.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:08 pmSo you like a Day 1 where we reach T-2 hours and 5 different players have 2-3 votes? Mmmmm, chaos.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:05 pmI can be moved by cases. I'm a sucker for lengthy cases on people I don't have a firm read on. Hence previous game musings about my failings in distinguishing bad townie play from actual baddies.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:56 pmAre you the sort of person who can be moved by a case on anyone (not just Quin)?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:10 amRight? This is the main reason I'm not moved by any case on Quin.
The worst I can say about him is that he's tone pinging me a little earlier than usual. The accusations of genuinely trying to read people on Day 0? Weak.
I'm actually okay with Mac (old buddy old pal let me pocket you eh?) doing it cause I think it fits Mac's style but I don't see where Jimmy is coming from. I guess Jimmy is a at-the-wall thrower in the vein of Sloonei and MP but with his self imposed restriction, the weak case on Quin becomes a large part of Jimmy's content and paints him in a bad light. Hard to not be disappointed but the important part is if the root cause of Jimmy's overall posting being disappointing because he's not giving the 110% I'm used to or because he's bad.
I am.
I like being contrary, though. Hence, sticking my neck out to fight Day 0/Day 1 cases against people, sometimes leading to accusations of buddying. (This is separate from accusations of buddying Mac. That's just cause I was very amused by Mac in a previous game and I want us to be pals.
@Newplayers, feel free to ignore my selfcentered musings. I do this a lot. I'm town so you don't need to try to figure out what I'm talking about.
Why are you encouraging people to ignore what you're talking about?
Cause I'm self conscious.
People can't keep up with my intensity because of the volume of my content. That reflects both post count and post thickness. I won't be writing War and Peace in this game. I hope others do in my stead, then they can take the blame for the no-shows.Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:13 pmYour posts are noticeably shorter than what I find customary.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:09 pm I'm actively trying to limit myself in this game, and I still find myself at 60 posts on Day 0.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:14 pmThis conversation has officially become bizarre. Why did I link that game?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:10 pmIdk. Why did you like to that game then?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:07 pmI'm afraid we're just not close enough for my subconscious mind to be driven so specifically by the actions of Jackofhearts2005, in full disguise, and I think about 8 living Kilo posts. In that game, I saw a player doing very little who could be smeared, and I capitalized. Do you really believe that it makes sense to draw a parallel to a sock account game wherein neither of us could really know who the other was on Day 1?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:59 pm Well it wouldn't be a very good tell if you weren't doing is subconsciously, now would it?
I've been bad in three standard games on this site. I provided all of them to answer your question.
No, fuck that. Anyone is free to look at my Bravo game and make face value comparisons. That's not what I am talking about. You're making a specific comparison about you which must inherently rely upon Bravo having known who Kilo was to make any sense. This "subconscious" thing is bullshit.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:18 pm Jack: What do you look like when you're bad.
Jimmy: Like this.
Jack: Like now?
Jimmy: I don't think what I linked to is representative of bad me.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:20 pmNo, fuck that. Anyone is free to look at my Bravo game and make face value comparisons. That's not what I am talking about. You're making a specific comparison about you which must inherently rely upon Bravo having known who Kilo was to make any sense. This "subconscious" thing is bullshit.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:18 pm Jack: What do you look like when you're bad.
Jimmy: Like this.
Jack: Like now?
Jimmy: I don't think what I linked to is representative of bad me.
Hi Glorfindel!Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:05 pm I'm so sorry, everyone. I'd totally forgotten I'd signed up for this as I haven't been here in a while. It's wonderful (so far) being back here with you all and it looks like an amazing game. I see we're already at 11 pages so I guess what I'm pleading for is:
A) your patience and understanding as I try to catch up and immerse myself in this game and
B) A clue about how you respond to someone by quoting their post. Somebody asked me a question and when I reply a name keeps appearing and when I press 'Return' it inserts some bizarre stuff in the middle of my post - sorry, again, I've not played since the redesign of the site. Thank Ye
Thank you Jay! As always, you are a scholar and a gentlemanJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:09 pmHi Glorfindel!Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:05 pm I'm so sorry, everyone. I'd totally forgotten I'd signed up for this as I haven't been here in a while. It's wonderful (so far) being back here with you all and it looks like an amazing game. I see we're already at 11 pages so I guess what I'm pleading for is:
A) your patience and understanding as I try to catch up and immerse myself in this game and
B) A clue about how you respond to someone by quoting their post. Somebody asked me a question and when I reply a name keeps appearing and when I press 'Return' it inserts some bizarre stuff in the middle of my post - sorry, again, I've not played since the redesign of the site. Thank Ye
That’s the tagging function at work. It happens when you quote a post that features an @ tag. If you find that “@“ in the quoted material an delete in, that will stop happening.
He's oozing with sincerity, there's emotion in his dialogue with Jack that I don't think would be there if he was bad, and his self-imposed post cap is something he could easily milk if he drew a scum role. Instead he seems to be struggling against it. Not to mention the alignment of his thoughts with mine in more than one place.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:18 pmInteresting. I was going to actually ask you for your opinion but you have given it anyway.
Why?
Hi, KyleKylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm okay before we get too much further i want to ask real quick...
@ Dave
@ Glorfindel
@ Gumshoe
@ lapluie
@ MacDougall
@ novaselinenever
@ TonyStarkPrime
could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?
In answer to your questions:
Oh well. We can't agree on every read.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:15 pm Well ... after that catch up I find myself relatively concerned by Jimmy. I feel Jack is playing very sincerely and am not buying that Jimmy genuinely feels that Jack is bad.
I should also point out that in all the time I've played here at The Syndicate, I've never won a game as either alignment and that reflects my playing history elsewhere. Guess I'm generally crap and I don't expect that to change this game - just so you know...Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:26 pmHi, KyleKylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:11 pm okay before we get too much further i want to ask real quick...
@ Dave
@ Glorfindel
@ Gumshoe
@ lapluie
@ MacDougall
@ novaselinenever
@ TonyStarkPrime
could you each briefly summarize your past mafia playing history? How long have you been playing for? What site are you from? Have you played on the syndicate before? If no, are there any players in this game you have prior experience playing with?And you're forgiven for not understanding the significance of what I'm about to say here, but
- I've been playing Mafia games for coming up four years (I think)
I've played on a number of sites but most recently here and Mafia Universe
Yes, you can see from my profile that I've been here at The Syndicate for just over two years (where I think I've become a legend for all the WRONG reasons
I've played with almost everyone here unless they're very new and I feel quite excited to be back playing with them.
Yes, I AM Town!
PS. Previewing this post I can see that I've screwed up my bullet-pointing - I'm afraid you guys are going to have to cut me some serious slack while I try to work out how the hell to find my way around this place...
Your second reason is terrible. JJJ would struggle against that limit regardless.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:22 pmHe's oozing with sincerity, there's emotion in his dialogue with Jack that I don't think would be there if he was bad, and his self-imposed post cap is something he could easily milk if he drew a scum role. Instead he seems to be struggling against it. Not to mention the alignment of his thoughts with mine in more than one place.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:18 pmInteresting. I was going to actually ask you for your opinion but you have given it anyway.
Why?
*cough* Nightwolf *cough*Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:26 pm And you're forgiven for not understanding the significance of what I'm about to say here, but
Yes, I AM Town!
If you're on my team, that'll change.Glorfindel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:35 pm I should also point out that in all the time I've played here at The Syndicate, I've never won a game as either alignment and that reflects my playing history elsewhere. Guess I'm generally crap and I don't expect that to change this game - just so you know...
Let's do this.
). . . is this actually a thing he does, like, for religious or meta reasons? Because that's awesome. And a bit of a handicap as scum.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:56 pm Glorfindel never lies. He says he's town, I believe him.
It has given him trouble before. I think he would sooner adopt a "never claim an alignment in any game at all" strategy or just not play than compromise his values. He's town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm. . . is this actually a thing he does, like, for religious or meta reasons? Because that's awesome. And a bit of a handicap as scum.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:56 pm Glorfindel never lies. He says he's town, I believe him.
I understand his reasoning, even if it's not a tenet I follow. Games are an abstraction, and morally, I treat them as such.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:00 pmIt has given him trouble before. I think he would sooner adopt a "never claim an alignment in any game at all" strategy or just not play than compromise his values. He's town.speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:58 pm. . . is this actually a thing he does, like, for religious or meta reasons? Because that's awesome. And a bit of a handicap as scum.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:56 pm Glorfindel never lies. He says he's town, I believe him.