The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:11 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:07 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:05 am the only civ way what he's saying is true is if he's Avram and...

DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:40 am A message from Avram:
Kyle and Long Con seem like good places to start.

he's not Avram.

And neither are you. And yet, I promise that I can prove to at least one person that I'm Civ.

Now you are throwing out a hail Mary to draw out civilian powers you want gone.

I know that trick.

Be gone, Long Con.

I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:43 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:11 pm we're also going to have to figure out what to do with NVN sooner or later. He seems to be stretched pretty thin mafia-wise, and it doesn't appear that he's going to dump a load of content on us any time soon. His spot seems doomed to sit around in single-digit posts for this game. As the POE pool continues to shrink, his spot does not budge.

The only info I would have is that I think you guys are right about LC, but wrong about him. He reads Mafia and I don't see any case being made of him as Town

I don't think this is a claim for role-based information. He used the word awkwardly to start a sentence ending with a mafia read on LC. It's Syndicate jargon tripping people up.

Idk man, could be that he didn't realize "no infodumping" was in the rules. I think the chance he's Chava is at least worth considering.

It's Day 3 though. He only had one read to offer, not two.

And his 10 posts in the last 8 hours compared to a mere 4 posts in the previous 5 days is alarming.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:43 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:11 pm we're also going to have to figure out what to do with NVN sooner or later. He seems to be stretched pretty thin mafia-wise, and it doesn't appear that he's going to dump a load of content on us any time soon. His spot seems doomed to sit around in single-digit posts for this game. As the POE pool continues to shrink, his spot does not budge.

The only info I would have is that I think you guys are right about LC, but wrong about him. He reads Mafia and I don't see any case being made of him as Town

I don't think this is a claim for role-based information. He used the word awkwardly to start a sentence ending with a mafia read on LC. It's Syndicate jargon tripping people up.

Idk man, could be that he didn't realize "no infodumping" was in the rules. I think the chance he's Chava is at least worth considering.

This isn't Day 1.

I doubt seriously nova was ever blocked.

That means he either missed a PM or a worded his sentence poorly.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:17 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:11 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:07 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:05 am the only civ way what he's saying is true is if he's Avram and...

DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:40 am A message from Avram:
Kyle and Long Con seem like good places to start.

he's not Avram.

And neither are you. And yet, I promise that I can prove to at least one person that I'm Civ.

Now you are throwing out a hail Mary to draw out civilian powers you want gone.

I know that trick.

Be gone, Long Con.

I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

lol

I definitely used that trick in my early lostpedia days and I'm 80% sure you were one of the people who called me out on it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:12 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:10 am Wait Nova wants to lynch Marmot. I'm confused now. What is this defense even anyway?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:11 pm we're also going to have to figure out what to do with NVN sooner or later. He seems to be stretched pretty thin mafia-wise, and it doesn't appear that he's going to dump a load of content on us any time soon. His spot seems doomed to sit around in single-digit posts for this game. As the POE pool continues to shrink, his spot does not budge.

The only info I would have is that I think you guys are right about LC, but wrong about him. He reads Mafia and I don't see any case being made of him as Town

Interpret that however you may.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:22 am Draw Tevye's check in the night phase = no civilian is protected and no BTSC is located.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

What do you think of NVN if you make the following assumption:

He did not intend to actually claim information and instead worded his suspicion of you awkwardly because he isn't familiar with Syndicate jargon?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:22 am I don't interpret this as a power claim.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:17 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:11 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:07 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:05 am the only civ way what he's saying is true is if he's Avram and...

DFaraday wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:40 am A message from Avram:
Kyle and Long Con seem like good places to start.

he's not Avram.

And neither are you. And yet, I promise that I can prove to at least one person that I'm Civ.

Now you are throwing out a hail Mary to draw out civilian powers you want gone.

I know that trick.

Be gone, Long Con.

I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

lol

I definitely used that trick in my early lostpedia days and I'm 80% sure you were one of the people who called me out on it.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:24 am And yet, I know that I'm 100% positive that I was being honest. I have no recollection of that, Kyle.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:24 am daughter hinting makes sense as a desperation gambit cus there's 3 of them and none of them know each other, so there's no one to counter

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

This is the most bored plea I've ever seen.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

This is the most bored plea I've ever seen.

Despair can look like boredom. It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to give me the benefit of the doubt just once. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to always be so participatory in this game.

Maybe just forget the proving thing. It's kind of sketchy at this point anyway, I haven't actually confirmed with the host that it's cool. Get me out of the way, and you'll probably be looking at NVN tomorrow, and we can still win.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

Do you think someone would be defending him if he's bad?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:24 am daughter hinting makes sense as a desperation gambit cus there's 3 of them and none of them know each other, so there's no one to counter

Yeah this + the point Jay just made (he'd cause Tevye to waste a check) = LC u lyyyyin

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 am
I don't know how LC intends to prove his innocence; it sounds like a false last-minute self-preservation tactic but part of me wants to be gullible and believe he's being genuine here.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:29 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

Do you think someone would be defending him if he's bad?

No. That's actually my point. There is no nay saying whatsoever. The Mafia would be defending him if he was a civ I think.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:32 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:29 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:26 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

Do you think someone would be defending him if he's bad?

No. That's actually my point. There is no nay saying whatsoever. The Mafia would be defending him if he was a civ I think.

hmmm good point...

except that you're kind of ironically defending him with this point

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:29 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:20 am
I don't know how LC intends to prove his innocence; it sounds like a false last-minute self-preservation tactic but part of me wants to be gullible and believe he's being genuine here.

Last-minute self-preservation tactics are why veteran Syndicate players are losing to newer players who have influenced this site. We used to be "You have to be alive to win (unless you are bad)," which somewhat made sense at the time, but I no longer see it that way. Our entire site now is on board with "People win with their faction," which makes the most sense with regard to mafia. I was robbed of a win so many times as a civilian because I always got killed. That's bullshit, and that's why my opinion changed.

It ultimately weakens the civilian spirit. To get mafia lynched and lose because they just decided you shouldn't win SUCKED. I don't even know why that concept existed (I kind of do, but meh).

If Long Con is a civilian, he should fight and show why he's an asset and get someone else lynched.

Instead he's begging us to let him use his Night action.

Boo.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:31 am another point against LC, civ LC would have too much pride to hint himself out of a sticky situation, but mafia LC would absolutely pull a fake hint gambit

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:13 am I don't actually know that trick. I can't recall ever seeing that trick.

Nobody reveal your Civ powers.

What do you think of NVN if you make the following assumption:

He did not intend to actually claim information and instead worded his suspicion of you awkwardly because he isn't familiar with Syndicate jargon?

I would think he is trying to make shit up to push my easy lynch because that's how he thinks it goes? It was just vague enough.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 am @JaggedJimmyJay You've been flip flopping a lot between me and LC

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:27 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am I don't even know the issue here. We're not in lylo or mylo or whatever. Lynch me tomorrow if you're not satisfied.

This is the most bored plea I've ever seen.

Despair can look like boredom. It doesn't seem like anyone is willing to give me the benefit of the doubt just once. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to always be so participatory in this game.

Maybe just forget the proving thing. It's kind of sketchy at this point anyway, I haven't actually confirmed with the host that it's cool. Get me out of the way, and you'll probably be looking at NVN tomorrow, and we can still win.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:34 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 am @JaggedJimmyJay You've been flip flopping a lot between me and LC

Is that right? What do you think about that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:39 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:34 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 am @JaggedJimmyJay You've been flip flopping a lot between me and LC

Is that right? What do you think about that?

A Townie having doubts and not too sure who to vote.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

Who might that be ?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

Who might that be ?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

Who might that be ?

U

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

Who might that be ?

U

I don't think so but it could be.

I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:45 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:43 am I'd lynch several people before Nova at this point.

I'll await verification on the LC flip. If it goes according to plan, I'd lynch zero people before NVN.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:42 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:40 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:37 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 am Where's the Long Con defender?

She's dead.

And his other teammate has given him to the wolves.

Who might that be ?

U