[ENDGAME] - The Fellowship of the Ring Mafia (LoTR I)

[Kylemii]

Kyle, what do YOU think of me and Faraday?

DFaraday has 2 posts, one where he says he's looking forward to the game, and one where he says he doesn't have strong reads and votes rabbit for the reason you listed. relatively weak effort.

you've been relatively under the radar so far. I see an effort towards game solving, but not many actual cases or reads. I'd prefer to judge you more after you've gotten your feet wet, since you've mentioned that you've been feeling alienated by the discussion centered around meta

[MacDougall]

Let's lynch Epi

[insertnamehere]

I've liked enough of Ambray's responses to her many detractors for me to not want her to go.

In other news, I'm voting, probably apropos of nothing, for Kyle.

I didn't like his assumptions about the ways the mafia roles worked, nor did I like how he treated Glorf. His responses to Jack's accusations were kinda weaksauce, and his weird barbs against Sloonei for explaining Glorf's deal just come off really weird.

I also don't like the course of events that went: Kyle + Nutella go after Glorf -> Ambray follows Kyle and votes Glorf -> The thread defends Glorf, and public opinion turns against his accusers -> Kyle walks back/downplays what he said and turns on Ambray, claiming that her reasoning for voting Glorf is shadier than his own -> When Ambray shows up and responds, Kyle randomly switches to Faraday, possibly the most inactive player, who will probably not fight back against this lynch.

It's just all kinda spineless and contortion-y, with Kyle changing his stance and flipping on people quite a bit.

[Epignosis]

Let's lynch Epi

Famous last words.

[MacDougall]

Let's lynch Epi

Famous last words.

I'll just replace back in after you mislynch me and someone vanishes. I'm that kind of guy.

[insertnamehere]

Yo, [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention], come on board the Kyle train, if you're still around.

[Epignosis]

Kyle, I feel like you are trying to follow me around. Why are you doing that?

Kylemii

[MacDougall]

I've liked enough of Ambray's responses to her many detractors for me to not want her to go.

In other news, I'm voting, probably apropos of nothing, for Kyle.

I didn't like his assumptions about the ways the mafia roles worked, nor did I like how he treated Glorf. His responses to Jack's accusations were kinda weaksauce, and his weird barbs against Sloonei for explaining Glorf's deal just come off really weird.

I also don't like the course of events that went: Kyle + Nutella go after Glorf -> Ambray follows Kyle and votes Glorf -> The thread defends Glorf, and public opinion turns against his accusers -> Kyle walks back/downplays what he said and turns on Ambray, claiming that her reasoning for voting Glorf is shadier than his own -> When Ambray shows up and responds, Kyle randomly switches to Faraday, possibly the most inactive player, who will probably not fight back against this lynch.

It's just all kinda spineless and contortion-y, with Kyle changing his stance and flipping on people quite a bit.

Civ.

[MacDougall]

GTH time as I prepare to be mislynched in two games;

Ambray - Scum
DFaraday - Town
DrWilgy - Town
Epignosis - Town
Glorfindel - Town
insertnamehere - Town
Jackofhearts2005 - Town
Kylemii - Town
Long Con - Town
novaselinenever - Town
nutella - Scum
rabbit8 - Scum
Sloonei - Scum
timmer - Scum

[Kylemii]

[mention]insertnamehere[/mention] you should review my posts my votes for sofi and glorfindel were for questioning purposes. I responded to Jack's accusations just fine. His words were an inaccurate accounting of what happened

[MacDougall]

Oh Epi changed his vote. Good.

[MacDougall]

@insertnamehere you should review my posts my votes for sofi and glorfindel were for questioning purposes. I responded to Jack's accusations just fine. His words were an inaccurate accounting of what happened

TOWN

[Kylemii]

Kyle, I feel like you are trying to follow me around. Why are you doing that?

Kylemii

I don't fully understand the question? I'm asking you stuff cus you're online and I don't have a grip on your position on things yet.

[Epignosis]

Kyle, I feel like you are trying to follow me around. Why are you doing that?

Kylemii

I don't fully understand the question? I'm asking you stuff cus you're online and I don't have a grip on your position on things yet.

I don't have any positions. I will after an hour or so.

[Epignosis]

Sloonei got quiet.

[Kylemii]

I don't have any positions. I will after an hour or so.

it's a date then.

moved my vote to reactivate the tie, I'm going out for sushi but I will still be checking in

[insertnamehere]

@insertnamehere you should review my posts my votes for sofi and glorfindel were for questioning purposes. I responded to Jack's accusations just fine. His words were an inaccurate accounting of what happened

What are you, a mediocre Kevin Smith movie starring Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan? Because all that you're giving me are cop-outs.

You can't just retroactively declare a vote completely unindicative of suspicion. Especially when you switched to Faraday less than two hours before the EOD. I'm not saying that you didn't use your vote to question them, but pretending like that's your sole reason for voting someone is damn silly.

That is, unless you do like Epi is doing right now, and switch it around at random, just for kicks and/or giggles.

Regarding Jack's accusation, I'm gonna summarize it quickly in order to not get bogged down in recursive semantics. Jack had his own version of events. You had your version of events where your words had no possible negative connotations. I side with Jack.

[Kylemii]

Sir, I made clear in my posts that I made that my reasoning for voting glorfindel was for pressure purposes.

If my vote for glorfindel wasn't for pressure/questioning then what do you think it was for?

[nutella]

Six-way tie. Spicy.

[Kylemii]

like I appreciate your whole sense of flair and references to popular media properties but you're wrong. just cus jack's interpretation of events makes you happier doesn't make it correct or even sensible. Jack hasn't even responded to my issues with his interpretation.

[insertnamehere]

Sir, I made clear in my posts that I made that my reasoning for voting glorfindel was for pressure purposes.

If my vote for glorfindel wasn't for pressure/questioning then what do you think it was for?

Kyle, the person at the end of the day with the most votes is lynched. That's how the game works. Unfortunately, there's not a seperate "questioning" poll where you can vote for people you want to have answer your requests. A vote is a vote, and I take it seriously.

Saying that it's solely for questioning is a bit of a dodge and a bit of a scummy move IMO. In fact, literally all of your votes today, Kyle, have been directed at low-posting players (or at least they were when you voted for them) that you want to "pressure." Nevertheless, DFaraday might be pressured all the way to the noose.

I feel like specifically voting for under-the-radar players, ostensibly for "pressure" purposes, then moving to another mostly-silent player if they show up and complain, would be a hella attractive strategy for a scummeister.

You're appearing like an active player without actually going after anyone who'll fight back, and preserving plausible deniability.

It's like when one of those douchebag Youtubers punch someone and then claim it was a social experiment afterward.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Ricochet is in serious danger of being lynched.

[Kylemii]

"the player who has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched"

true

you're talking about a player i voted for at the start of the day. INH that's how pressure votes work. You vote a player with an accusation and see how they respond. If they respond favorably you move it.

this isn't a new concept. I didn't invent this

[insertnamehere]

"the player who has the most votes at the end of the day is lynched"

true

you're talking about a player i voted for at the start of the day. INH that's how pressure votes work. You vote a player with an accusation and see how they respond. If they respond favorably you move it.

this isn't a new concept. I didn't invent this

k

[Marmot]

Ricochet is in serious danger of being lynched.

Why'd you follow my vote?

[Kylemii]

I also mentioned that I've been trying to vote earlier in the day instead if waiting til last minute, in order to improve my effectiveness and improve myself as a player.

Voting early doesn't mean deciding early. It means distributing pressure where i feel it needs to be distributed.

[Epignosis]

INH, I think Kyle is a civilian.

[insertnamehere]

INH, I think Kyle is a civilian.

k

I also mentioned that I've been trying to vote earlier in the day instead if waiting til last minute, in order to improve my effectiveness and improve myself as a player.

Voting early doesn't mean deciding early. It means distributing pressure where i feel it needs to be distributed.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to keep holding you responsible for your votes.

[Glorfindel]

I can’t honestly ever recall a game on this site where I have found INH’s posts to be so incisive, so entertaining.

[Glorfindel]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

[Epignosis]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

Why would I do that?

[Glorfindel]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

Why would I do that?

Because (in my view) if he’s the Mafia-leaningist player we have playing here, we’re in a LOT of trouble.

[Kylemii]

INH, I think Kyle is a civilian.

k

I also mentioned that I've been trying to vote earlier in the day instead if waiting til last minute, in order to improve my effectiveness and improve myself as a player.

Voting early doesn't mean deciding early. It means distributing pressure where i feel it needs to be distributed.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to keep holding you responsible for your votes.

please do? That's what mafia is. You should be doing that anyways, even if it's not me. But please also understand that the only immutable votes are the ones that are in place when the hammer comes down.

[Kylemii]

though with that said, I am absolutely not breaking a 6 way tie.

[Epignosis]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

Why would I do that?

Because (in my view) if he’s the Mafia-leaningist player we have playing here, we’re in a LOT of trouble.

Why is that?

[Sloonei]

Sloonei got quiet.

Sloonei went to work.

[Epignosis]

Sloonei got quiet.

Sloonei went to work.

Sloonei's fine.

[Glorfindel]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

Why would I do that?

Because (in my view) if he’s the Mafia-leaningist player we have playing here, we’re in a LOT of trouble.

Why is that?

Above all the candidates in that mix he is without doubt (in my opinion) the most transparently Townie. He’s an asset to us - if you’re one of us?

[timmer]

though with that said, I am absolutely not breaking a 6 way tie.

You've seemed really concerned with how your vote will be viewed... that said, its day 1 and I kind of understand.

[Epignosis]

Five minutes left. I will be breaking this tie.

If any of you want to vote elsewhere or have any grievances, go.

[Sloonei]

My head is not wrapped around the current events and I feel I have no shot at figuring it out in 5 minutes. What's the deal with the faraday votes, and why should i consider moving off long con?

[Epignosis]

Can we please save Master Sloonei from this ridiculous multi-way tie?

Why would I do that?

Because (in my view) if he’s the Mafia-leaningist player we have playing here, we’re in a LOT of trouble.

Why is that?

Above all the candidates in that mix he is without doubt (in my opinion) the most transparently Townie. He’s an asset to us - if you’re one of us?

He isn't "transparently townie." I don't even know what that means.

Sloonei can bullshit his posts. JJJ does the same thing when he's bad.

You might not lie. They do, and they are good at it.

[Epignosis]

I'm breaking the tie. Watch.

[Sloonei]

Five minutes left. I will be breaking this tie.

If any of you want to vote elsewhere or have any grievances, go.

Do it now.

[timmer]

I voted for faraway because there are ample players being quiet and or hiding behind jokey meta and he arbitrarily voted for the one quiet player whose meta is unknown and can't be discussed. It felt too easy and calculated. It's not much but it's what pinged me.

[Epignosis]

Tie Broken.

[Sloonei]

Tie Broken.

Why Long Con?

[Long Con]

Sorry DF, that was a last-second votes to save my own ass, just got off work, hope you're bad, I don't even know what the case is on you. I am civ.

[Epignosis]

Tie Broken.

Why Long Con?

Why didn't you move?

[nutella]

I voted for faraway because there are ample players being quiet and or hiding behind jokey meta and he arbitrarily voted for the one quiet player whose meta is unknown and can't be discussed. It felt too easy and calculated. It's not much but it's what pinged me.

wait I don't understand this?? DF voted for rabbit. rabbit hasn't been one of the quietest (hasn't provided a ton of content, but has posted more than several players including DF) and his meta has been discussed a fair amount. can you explain this more?