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Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by Tangrowth
If you really thought someone was lying, you'd be arguing DDL. But you're not.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.

It checks out. 2 mafia in a game this small is really strong.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by speedchuck
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm Ballsy play by MP. Gg
Your argument makes no sense; it assumes both DDL and I are in cahoots.

Game over.
Not at all.

It assumes you didn't kill anyone. That's all.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by Lunalee
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm Town roleblocker. I'm that green dinosaur thing (Baby Bop)
I thought everything in this game was food-related?

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by MacDougall
The dead mafia had nothing but a safe claim. We have a cop and a roleblocker...

MP didn't reveal his results until after DDL did and then he says he copped DDL. Pretty fortunate.

Speedchuck might have a point. But why no kill if he isn't mafia.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
by Tangrowth
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm Ballsy play by MP. Gg
Your argument makes no sense; it assumes both DDL and I are in cahoots.

Game over.
Not at all.

It assumes you didn't kill anyone. That's all.
Who would even do that after a mafia d1 lynch in a game this small?

Maybe Vompatti.

That's it.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.
Roleblockers are WAAAAAY stronger than docs

no freaking way man

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Lunalee wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm Town roleblocker. I'm that green dinosaur thing (Baby Bop)
I thought everything in this game was food-related?
This game was originally a Barney the Dinosaur game.

Jay changed the setup because it made him insecure about his masculinity or something. :shifty:

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by Quin
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm I'm a bowl of brownies, but I don't guess anyone cares. GL.
Who puts brownies in a bowl? :disappoint:

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by Tangrowth
Lunalee wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm Town roleblocker. I'm that green dinosaur thing (Baby Bop)
I thought everything in this game was food-related?
No, I'm town cop and I'm Barney.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by MacDougall
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.

It checks out. 2 mafia in a game this small is really strong.
Strong enough for a roleblocker and a cop? Hmmm.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
by speedchuck
roleblocker = doc + cop at the same time in a game where mafia have only a kill

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by MacDougall
Are all the vanilla townies cheese? I am cheese.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by Tangrowth
No sane mafia player no matter how much they love WIFOM would forego a n1 kill in this scenario. It's absurd.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by speedchuck
You gotta kill me first to see that I'm right, then kill MP

Then we win

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.
Roleblockers are WAAAAAY stronger than docs

no freaking way man
I disagree. They have to get really lucky to make a dent here. Or find a scum defending a teammate like you did.

A cop + doctor is a really OP combo. Cop claims day 1 and becomes immortal unless mafia can find a way to kill the cop. GG.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by Tangrowth
Well, the roleblocker could erroneously target the town cop too, so I'd say it's balanced in 2 v. 5.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
by MacDougall
I am wondering why cbob's safe claim is a dinosaur when my vanilla role is real parmesan cheese.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm
by Tangrowth
Nice job, by the way, DDL. You are the MVP.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm
by Lunalee
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm Are all the vanilla townies cheese? I am cheese.
Nope, I'm veggies

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm
by Tangrowth
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm I am wondering why cbob's safe claim is a dinosaur when my vanilla role is real parmesan cheese.
Maybe because the power roles are dinosaurs? Otherwise, I'm not sure.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm
by Quin
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm Are all the vanilla townies cheese? I am cheese.
i am delicious spaghetti pasta

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm roleblocker = doc + cop at the same time in a game where mafia have only a kill
This assumes we don't lynch mafia on day 1 though.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
by speedchuck
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.
Roleblockers are WAAAAAY stronger than docs

no freaking way man
I disagree. They have to get really lucky to make a dent here. Or find a scum defending a teammate like you did.

A cop + doctor is a really OP combo. Cop claims day 1 and becomes immortal unless mafia can find a way to kill the cop. GG.
So both setups are crap

Cop + RB:

Vanilla town is lynched D1. Leaves 2 vanilla, 2 town, two town PRs
Either the roleblocker blocks a kill (1/3 chance) or the cop gets one (1/3 chance)
Or both or neither

It's STRONG

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm Nice job, by the way, DDL. You are the MVP.
Thanks man. :beer:

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
by Tangrowth
Yeah, if we had mislynched d1, that would have been quite the hole to dig ourselves out of, even with two PRs. Especially since I almost certainly was going to die.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
by MacDougall
[VOTE: speedy] aubergine

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by Tangrowth
GG speedchuck.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by MacDougall
Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.
Roleblockers are WAAAAAY stronger than docs

no freaking way man
I disagree. They have to get really lucky to make a dent here. Or find a scum defending a teammate like you did.

A cop + doctor is a really OP combo. Cop claims day 1 and becomes immortal unless mafia can find a way to kill the cop. GG.
So both setups are crap

Cop + RB:

Vanilla town is lynched D1. Leaves 2 vanilla, 2 town, two town PRs
Either the roleblocker blocks a kill (1/3 chance) or the cop gets one (1/3 chance)
Or both or neither

It's STRONG
I haven't played the EpicMafia setup but someone I really respect says it's balanced, and I know they play it tens of times a day and have leaderboards and everything.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by speedchuck
Run the odds on that.

At least one scum would get mechanically revealed on N1 or N2. Almostr mathematically unavoidable

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm
by Quin
i don't mean to take us off topic but if me, lunalee and mac got together we'd make a pretty decent italian dish

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
by speedchuck
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling
I agree

You'll see the light

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
by Tangrowth
Now I want Italian for dinner.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
by Tangrowth
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling
I agree

You'll see the light
You're good at faking emotion.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
by Lunalee
Quin wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm i don't mean to take us off topic but if me, lunalee and mac got together we'd make a pretty decent italian dish
Delicious townies unite!

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by speedchuck
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling
I agree

You'll see the light
You're good at faking emotion.
Thank you.

When you've lost a game, you gotta troll everyone. It's what you gotta do.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Tangrowth
END DAT DAY

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Tangrowth
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling
I agree

You'll see the light
You're good at faking emotion.
Thank you.

When you've lost a game, you gotta troll everyone. It's what you gotta do.
:beer:

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by speedchuck
GG DDL, MP. Nice combo. I couldn't even CC, being blocked.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by MacDougall
Can't be this easy

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Lunalee
current poll status?

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by Quin
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:10 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:09 pm Must be lynched even though i am tinfoiiling
I agree

You'll see the light
You're good at faking emotion.
Thank you.

When you've lost a game, you gotta troll everyone. It's what you gotta do.
mfw speedchuck is actually town

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm
by speedchuck
It can, Mac. I'm trolling. I promise.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by Tangrowth
Yeah, we got really fucking lucky, but it's thanks to DDL really.

I played terribly; it's a wonder I lived to endgame.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by MacDougall
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:11 pm It can, Mac. I'm trolling. I promise.
Wow

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
SPEEDCHUCK WAS LYNCHED.

Spoiler: show
You are Cereal With Water. You are mafia-aligned alongside X. You may safely claim to be a Basket of Perfectly Firm Brownies.

Image

IT IS NIGHT TWO. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:08 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:06 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:05 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:04 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:01 pm Something very weird about this.
Completely agree, but Occam's killing me today.

MP is scum. No way there's a cop and a roleblocker in this game. He sees an easy lynch and he's taking it.
Not necessarily.

In EpicMafia the classic setup is cop/doc/2 VTs vs 2 mafia

Here we got one extra town and replaced the doc for a RBer.
Roleblockers are WAAAAAY stronger than docs

no freaking way man
I disagree. They have to get really lucky to make a dent here. Or find a scum defending a teammate like you did.

A cop + doctor is a really OP combo. Cop claims day 1 and becomes immortal unless mafia can find a way to kill the cop. GG.
So both setups are crap

Cop + RB:

Vanilla town is lynched D1. Leaves 2 vanilla, 2 town, two town PRs
Either the roleblocker blocks a kill (1/3 chance) or the cop gets one (1/3 chance)
Or both or neither

It's STRONG
So two events with a 1/3 chance. If neither happen it's 3vs2 lylo. Town votes for another town once and it's GG.

I mean it is a game that is harsh with mistakes but it's not that unfair.

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by speedchuck
omg wat

Re: Operation Refrigerator Restoration?

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:12 pm
by Tangrowth
Wait... wait. How is the game not over?