Fantasy Movie League - Transactions Thread

#51

I would like to drop Olivia Wilde and pick up Annette Bening (aka [mention]juliets[/mention] )

#52

Filling my two vacant spots:

Pablo Schreiber
Kristen Wiig

#53

Woooo STAR WAR

#54

I'm dropping Suspiria and picking up Hereditary.

#55

dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 23, 2018 9:51 am I would like to drop Olivia Wilde and pick up Annette Bening (aka @juliets )

lol

#56

Didn't juliets already star in The Seagull early this May?

#57

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Jun 01, 2018 9:05 am Didn't juliets already star in The Seagull early this May?

I'm getting a lot of work these days.

#58

Argh... switching back from hereditary to suspiria.

#59

Drop Kiera Knightley.

Pick up Ethan Hawke.

#60

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:41 am Argh... switching back from hereditary to suspiria.

Both are films that I plan on seeing as early as possible, I'll most likely really enjoy, and will most likely get no awards love. Of the two, I'd say Hereditary might get more money.

#61

And I'm switching again, fro Suspiria to Nutcracker and the Four Realms

#62

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:50 am Drop Kiera Knightley.

Pick up Ethan Hawke.

So this is the second instance of an actor being picked after they already starred in a movie and thus started generating box office. First Reformed opened three weeks ago. If such moves are actually legal, then I don't see how the game can run fairly.

#63

What was the first instance?

#64

dunia's Annette Bening pick, weeks after The Seagull had opened.

#65

If both of these are accurate I assume that neither of those picks will stand.

#66

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:01 am dunia's Annette Bening pick, weeks after The Seagull had opened.

I didn't pick Annette Bening for The Seagull, I picked her for Georgetown.

#67

#68

It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.

#69

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.

no. actors and actresses are locked into YOUR roster if you have picked them and their first movie of the May-December season rolls in. meaning you can't drop them if they didn't score well (same with movies). I don't believe they are ineligible to be chosen, only that I can't claim points for any movie that was released before I picked them.

#70

here's the rule, [mention]Ricochet[/mention]

timmer wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:21 am You are also free to drop actors and replace them, as long as they have not had a film open while on your roster... replacement actors may have had a film open already, but since no one owned them yet it is okay.

#71

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:07 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.
no. actors and actresses are locked into YOUR roster if you have picked them and their first movie of the May-December season rolls in. meaning you can't drop them if they didn't score well (same with movies). I don't believe they are ineligible to be chosen, only that I can't claim points for any movie that was released before I picked them.

Wow, would be rough if annette bening won an award for the Seagull, huh.

I had thought it was the same way as Rico, good to know.

#72

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:22 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:07 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.
no. actors and actresses are locked into YOUR roster if you have picked them and their first movie of the May-December season rolls in. meaning you can't drop them if they didn't score well (same with movies). I don't believe they are ineligible to be chosen, only that I can't claim points for any movie that was released before I picked them.
Wow, would be rough if annette bening won an award for the Seagull, huh.

I had thought it was the same way as Rico, good to know.

I wonder if I can claim awards since award season hasn't started...just not box office revenue.

I better not push it though, or Rico will have a seizure.

#73

I think that would be equivalent to claiming an award for a movie released in April, which has been ruled out. So probably no.

#74

I know, I was just messing with Rico's temperature. I picked Bening for another movie; I knew the rule before I did.

#75

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:46 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:50 am Drop Kiera Knightley.

Pick up Ethan Hawke.
So this is the second instance of an actor being picked after they already starred in a movie and thus started generating box office. First Reformed opened three weeks ago. If such moves are actually legal, then I don't see how the game can run fairly.

The rule is pretty clear. An actor only generates box office and awards if their film opens while they are on your roster. No on't can ever get retroactive box or awards.

In other news Rico has withdrawn from the game. I'll just leave his roster as it is and we will let his roster exist as a ghost player.

#76

timmer wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:13 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:46 am
insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:50 am Drop Kiera Knightley.

Pick up Ethan Hawke.
So this is the second instance of an actor being picked after they already starred in a movie and thus started generating box office. First Reformed opened three weeks ago. If such moves are actually legal, then I don't see how the game can run fairly.
The rule is pretty clear. An actor only generates box office and awards if their film opens while they are on your roster. No on't can ever get retroactive box or awards.

In other news Rico has withdrawn from the game. I'll just leave his roster as it is and we will let his roster exist as a ghost player.

Rico pls

#77

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.

Let the record reflect this was my understanding as well, and that I don't know how fair I find it. For example:

Lets say actor Dharma Helper stars in 3 films coming out within the window of the league (May-December) and Film #1 comes out and people are like "wow actually Dharma Helper is pretty good. Nobody expected Film #1 to do that great, and it did real good. Film #2 and Film #3 are must watch now, and I bet Dharma Helper will get nominated for some awards"

IMO, If no one in the league had the foresight to pick Dharma Helper before his films hit theaters then he should be locked out. Otherwise you're looking at a scenario where actors that previously had little or no awards buzz and now do based on the performance of their films (which we DID NOT have access to during the draft) can get snaked up.

IDK. I see the frustration.

#78

This functions pretty much just like any sports fantasy league.

Nobody is going to draft Joe Schmo of the Tennessee Titans, but if he comes out in Week 2 and puts up 30 points, people might think he's worth grabbing as a free agent. Granted in those cases there's a waiver wire system, but that's not the fault of these rules. The first person to pull the trigger is the one who gets the spoils -- if there even are any (not remotely guaranteed).

#79

I think it's fine the way it is, and indeed it's better than the alternative.

#80

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:25 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.
Let the record reflect this was my understanding as well, and that I don't know how fair I find it. For example:

Lets say actor Dharma Helper stars in 3 films coming out within the window of the league (May-December) and Film #1 comes out and people are like "wow actually Dharma Helper is pretty good. Nobody expected Film #1 to do that great, and it did real good. Film #2 and Film #3 are must watch now, and I bet Dharma Helper will get nominated for some awards"

IMO, If no one in the league had the foresight to pick Dharma Helper before his films hit theaters then he should be locked out. Otherwise you're looking at a scenario where actors that previously had little or no awards buzz and now do based on the performance of their films (which we DID NOT have access to during the draft) can get snaked up.

IDK. I see the frustration.

Let the record show that Rico didn't drop out because of this rule. However, I find your example a little weird tbh.

Why play with examples; let's use real names. Rico picked up The Seagull. Annette Bening was not picked up. I needed an actress. I saw Annette Bening was available (indeed, no one even dropped Annette, no one had even considered her!). I picked Annette Bening up. I won't earn any points for The Seagull. What is the issue here?

If you're seriously arguing that if 1 actor did well in 1 movie then all the other movies must be great....nah. In fact, I'll say history shows that if 1 movie is outstanding then the actor will get very little recognition for other movies that same year. The Seagull made half a mil in US. It's not exactly outstanding material that I based my pick of Annette Bening on. I don't care about The Seagull at all. I have no claim to The Seagull. The Seagull did not play any role in my choice of Annette Bening. Indeed, I thought it was released before May and had no idea Rico had chosen it before. I picked her entirely based on the probability of Georgetown being released this year (which is still unconfirmed)--I like the story and the supporting cast (Christoph Waltz, Vanessa Redgrave) and directed by Waltz. I feel like it could earn her awards.

#81

regardless of what we all think anyway, timmer made that specific rule clear in the very first signup thread post (I quoted it) and everyone should have read it... so not much to discuss in fairness--he's not making exceptions now; it's a rule, it's part of the game.

#82

To me it doesn't matter what the rule is, but it is what it is - we should not lobby for it to change midflight.

#83

you hit 15k posts, Golden. woop woop.

#84

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:12 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:25 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:29 am It was my understanding that actors/actresses are locked once their first movie of the May-December season rolls, meaning both locked in one's draft, if chosen beforehand, and ineligible to be picked any longer, if not.
Let the record reflect this was my understanding as well, and that I don't know how fair I find it. For example:

Lets say actor Dharma Helper stars in 3 films coming out within the window of the league (May-December) and Film #1 comes out and people are like "wow actually Dharma Helper is pretty good. Nobody expected Film #1 to do that great, and it did real good. Film #2 and Film #3 are must watch now, and I bet Dharma Helper will get nominated for some awards"

IMO, If no one in the league had the foresight to pick Dharma Helper before his films hit theaters then he should be locked out. Otherwise you're looking at a scenario where actors that previously had little or no awards buzz and now do based on the performance of their films (which we DID NOT have access to during the draft) can get snaked up.

IDK. I see the frustration.
Let the record show that Rico didn't drop out because of this rule. However, I find your example a little weird tbh.

Why play with examples; let's use real names. Rico picked up The Seagull. Annette Bening was not picked up. I needed an actress. I saw Annette Bening was available (indeed, no one even dropped Annette, no one had even considered her!). I picked Annette Bening up. I won't earn any points for The Seagull. What is the issue here?

If you're seriously arguing that if 1 actor did well in 1 movie then all the other movies must be great....nah. In fact, I'll say history shows that if 1 movie is outstanding then the actor will get very little recognition for other movies that same year. The Seagull made half a mil in US. It's not exactly outstanding material that I based my pick of Annette Bening on. I don't care about The Seagull at all. I have no claim to The Seagull. The Seagull did not play any role in my choice of Annette Bening. Indeed, I thought it was released before May and had no idea Rico had chosen it before. I picked her entirely based on the probability of Georgetown being released this year (which is still unconfirmed)--I like the story and the supporting cast (Christoph Waltz, Vanessa Redgrave) and directed by Waltz. I feel like it could earn her awards.

I'm not gonna argue about the rule, I don't mean to upset the apple cart here or make anybody uncomfortable. I don't mind the picks/drops enough to lobby against them, I was just confuzzled about the locked-in aspect of the actors/movies.

Anyway, its not skin off my nose.

#85

it's cool DH. you didn't upset me or make me uncomfortable.

People have different opinions and no one is wrong or right. I could be biased because I want Bening, after all.

#86

I have a suggestion.

If any person who is playing is concerned that anything is against the rules, just PM timmer. Timmer will either straighten you out about the rules or straighten the thread out and fix any errors, and it will avoid any hurt feelings. I'm quite confident no one intends to break any rules. In fact:

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:12 pmI thought it was released before May and had no idea Rico had chosen it before.

This is what I assumed had happened, and I'm sure anything done against the rules would be similarly a mistake.

#87

I'm just thankful Infinity War got bumped out of contention.

#88

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:03 pm I'm just thankful Infinity War got bumped out of contention.

I haven't watched it yet

made 650mil. def will beat solo.

#89

Brb gonna go watch the Bad Times at the El Royale trailer

#90

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:03 pm Brb gonna go watch the Bad Times at the El Royale trailer

Well I just scored a shitload of points.

#91

blegh, I need a new movie I guess.

#92

Why can’t these people just bring out a movie when they say they will.

#93

I'll drop Where'd You Go, Bernadette? and pick up Tag please, [mention]timmer[/mention]

#94

Drop The Darkest Minds
Add Where'd You Go Bernadette?

#95

If the late release holds I'll grab some other damn thing.

#96

#97

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay [/mention] I demand to take it back if it ends up being released this year.

#98

Dunya taught me a good lesson.

Drop nothing until the day before the thing I might want instead opens.

#99

We also learned that Jay is ruthless.

I don't think it's coming out though. That's the second push on its release date.

#100

Apparently Burnadette went into 2019