The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:50 pm**

Hello, all! Guess what? It's that time of year again... for the Mafia Championship!

Here is the transcript from Thingyman explaining this year's championship in detail:

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INVITATION TO THE MAFIA CHAMPIONSHIP (SEASON 5)

Hello there!

It is with great pleasure that I hereby invite your community to take part in Season 5 of the Mafia Championship.

The Mafia Championship is an annual forum tournament series that pits representatives from various online Mafia (aka Werewolf) communities against one another as they compete to determine the Internet’s greatest forum Mafia player. Each participating community democratically elects one person to represent them and be their “Champion”.

The whole thing started back in 2013, and since then more than 225 different communities and 50+ different nationalities have been represented.

I hope it sounds like a fun and exciting event

1. DO YOU ACCEPT THE INVITE?

If your community wishes to participate, please confirm your participation to me as soon as you can to ensure yourselves a spot.

If you agree to participate, the deadline for selecting your representative is May 1. If this is too soon for you to decide on anyone, let me know and we can work something out.

The games will take place on Mafia Universe. If it’s okay, I can link directly to the general discussion thread regarding this topic on Mafia Universe.

Important notes
You may decide yourselves how you want to elect your representative, but we highly recommend some sort of democratic process (public nominations followed by a poll usually works out well).
In addition to electing a representative, you should also name an alternate who will be asked to step in if the first choice needs to back out.
Your representative should be prepared for having to read upwards of 500 posts per 24 hours during the early stages of the game. Additionally, there’s a requirement that each player must make at least 10 posts per Game Day. Only active players should apply/participate. I repeat: Your chosen player needs to be able to promise a good amount of activity on a daily basis.
2. SEASON 5 FORMAT

The tournament structure
170 communities will participate, each sending one representative.
10 Qualifying Games will be played, consisting of 17 players each. I.e. every representative plays in one Qualifying Game. The players themselves vote post-game to determine who is deserving of advancement. 1st place will advance directly to the Finale Game (i.e. 10 of the 17 finalists are found this way), while the 2nd places will advance directly to one of the two Wildcard Games.
A Jury consisting of finalists from Season 4 will discuss and vote to determine 25 players in total deserving of a second chance: 1 will advance directly to the finale, and the 24 other players will play in 2 Wildcard Games along with the 2nd places that advanced directly to these. From each game, three players will directly advance to the Finale Game based on a post-game player vote.
The Finale Game is played. Once it has completed, the players vote to determine who shall receive the title of Season 5 Champion and a winner’s certificate signed by Dmitry Davidoff, the creator of mafia.
The setup explained very briefly (more details on host site)
This (view picture below) is a semi-open grid setup meant for 17 players: 4 mafia versus 13 townies. First you randomly select a number to decide the mafia team's composition of Power Roles (1-2), then you randomly select a letter to decide the town's composition of Power Roles (A-E). Fill in the number of Vanilla Townies needed to make the town team have 13 members total, and you have your setup.

*Town Jack of All Trades: 1x Vigilante, 1x Roleblocker, 1x Tracker.

Relevant mechanics info
Day start.
Deadline Lynch w/ Option for Majority starting Day 2. I.e. when day timer runs out, person with most votes will be lynched. However, day can also be ended early (starting Day 2) if there is ever a majority of votes on one person.
If there is a tied lynch, one of the tied players will be randomly lynched.
No outside communication. I.e. you may not contact the other players outside of the thread (unless you are Mafia and wish to speak with your teammates).
Phase Lengths and Deadlines will be up to the players themselves (I’ll organize them into games with deadlines that suit their preferences).
Thread is locked during Night Phases.
3. SEASON 5 TIMELINE

There will be 10 Qualifying Games, and your representative plays in just one of these. They will have start dates during the months of May and June. So in other words, as long as your representative can play sometime during that period, they should be good and I’ll make sure they get scheduled into a game that suits their schedule well. I.e. if your rep is busy until June, that isn’t a problem.

Wildcard games will be played in July, and the Finale Game sometime in August/September (whenever we can work out something that suits everyone).

Kind regards,
Thingyman

If you want to get in contact with me ASAP, you can find me on Discord (Thingyman#6075).

Given that the timeline is no later than May 1st for our representative to commit, I would like to have our selection at least a few days in advance. As such, here is how we will proceed, similarly to previous seasons:

1) First, players volunteer to participate in this tournament by PMing me (no later than Saturday, April 21st at 8:00AM Eastern time)

2) Thereafter, the entire Syndicate members can send in secret ballots regarding which of the nominees (those who PMed me above) should be sent to Mafia Universe to play as our Season 5 representative (this will last a week, so from Saturday, April 21st until Saturday, April 28th).

In Season 2, we sent Turnip Head.
In Season 3, we sent Golden.
In Season 4, we sent Epignosis.

Whom will be sent as our representative this year?

Be sure to PM me before Saturday, April 21st at 8:00AM Eastern if you would like to nominate yourself for that spot!

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:55 pm**

So, let's chat about this thing. Who should represent us this year? What do you all think of the Season 5 game setup?

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:58 pm**

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm**

Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:41 pm**

Hey, I remember this from my chocolate pi days.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm**

I would like to see [mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] , [mention]dunya[/mention] , [mention]nutella[/mention] and [mention]speedchuck[/mention] just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.

It happens to all of us, don't sweat it.

I think it'd be best to avoid sending someone we've sent already anyway just so someone else can take a shot at it, unless we don't have any first-timers who want to do it this time.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:56 pm**

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.
It happens to all of us, don't sweat it.

I think it'd be best to avoid sending someone we've sent already anyway just so someone else can take a shot at it, unless we don't have any first-timers who want to do it this time.

You don't understand. I don't care about losing.

I marked the guy for using a suspicious adjective ("legitimate" when modifying the word "thoughts," to which I questioned if he had illegitimate thoughts) and I thought how dumb I must look around all these strangers because people on The Syndicate have ridiculed my masterful approach, and the one time it would have validated everything I stood for, I crapped out.

And he was bad.

I will never forget.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:03 pm**

Don't worry, that guy probably says "legitimate thoughts" as a civilian too.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:05 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.
It happens to all of us, don't sweat it.

I think it'd be best to avoid sending someone we've sent already anyway just so someone else can take a shot at it, unless we don't have any first-timers who want to do it this time.
You don't understand. I don't care about losing.

I marked the guy for using a suspicious adjective ("legitimate" when modifying the word "thoughts," to which I questioned if he had illegitimate thoughts) and I thought how dumb I must look around all these strangers because people on The Syndicate have ridiculed my masterful approach, and the one time it would have validated everything I stood for, I crapped out.

And he was bad.

I will never forget.

Oh great, just what you needed: vindication.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm I would like to see @JaggedJimmyJay , @dunya , @nutella and @speedchuck just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.

I like all these suggestions.

Also, [mention]colonialbob[/mention] or [mention]Tonystarkprime[/mention] should represent HCRealms.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:19 pm**

I'm opting out. It's just a bad idea for me. New blood is always great to spectate too.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:30 pm**

I doubt I'll be able to even accept nomination, but I'll make sure tomorrow

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:32 pm**

I think [mention]Kylemii[/mention] [mention]MacDougall[/mention] would be two good people to consider especially considering MU games can be very aggressive/toxicish compared to TS.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:42 pm**

Do MU games have a culture considering it’s every mafia site combined?

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:46 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:42 pm Do MU games have a culture considering it’s every mafia site combined?

That forms the culture. Everyone thinks they're hot shit and is out to prove it.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:52 pm**

It's probably best that I never get nominated for this for the following reasons:

1) I don't play often enough to keep my skills sharp.
2) I don't have the level of free time this contest demands.
3) I'd end up playing in character as THE GAME or posting Vocaroo recordings as various Muppets and The Syndicate would be banished from ever participating again.

Posted: **Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm I would like to see @JaggedJimmyJay , @dunya , @nutella and @speedchuck just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.
I like all these suggestions.

Also, @colonialbob or @Tonystarkprime should represent HCRealms.

Still can't play on my phone. I like our suggestions for here though.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:31 am**

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:52 pm 3) I'd end up playing in character as THE GAME or posting Vocaroo recordings as various Muppets and The Syndicate would be banished from ever participating again.

or it would be the best game MU has ever played

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:34 am**

Personally I would love to see jay or Speedchuck but jay already said he won’t

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:49 am**

I'm technically eligible, but definitely still sitting out this year.

But I am ready and willing to hand the mantle of "Best result for the Syndicate" over to someone else. It's not hard, just win and get ranked in the top 5 in the final

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:53 am**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.
It happens to all of us, don't sweat it.

I think it'd be best to avoid sending someone we've sent already anyway just so someone else can take a shot at it, unless we don't have any first-timers who want to do it this time.
You don't understand. I don't care about losing.

I marked the guy for using a suspicious adjective ("legitimate" when modifying the word "thoughts," to which I questioned if he had illegitimate thoughts) and I thought how dumb I must look around all these strangers because people on The Syndicate have ridiculed my masterful approach, and the one time it would have validated everything I stood for, I crapped out.

And he was bad.

I will never forget.

When we send you again, you will kick ass. I have no doubt.

But this is great advice. Here was my attitude in the heats - it wasn't going to be enough to play well. I had to play well and have everyone else know I'd played well to make the finals. So it was worth risking being terribly wrong to take strong stands and follow them through.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:44 am**

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:53 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:56 pm
M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:49 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:33 pm Don't send me. I called out mafia early on and got soft when I should've destroyed the guy. What a mess.
It happens to all of us, don't sweat it.

I think it'd be best to avoid sending someone we've sent already anyway just so someone else can take a shot at it, unless we don't have any first-timers who want to do it this time.
You don't understand. I don't care about losing.

I marked the guy for using a suspicious adjective ("legitimate" when modifying the word "thoughts," to which I questioned if he had illegitimate thoughts) and I thought how dumb I must look around all these strangers because people on The Syndicate have ridiculed my masterful approach, and the one time it would have validated everything I stood for, I crapped out.

And he was bad.

I will never forget.
When we send you again, you will kick ass. I have no doubt.

But this is great advice. Here was my attitude in the heats - it wasn't going to be enough to play well. I had to play well and have everyone else know I'd played well to make the finals. So it was worth risking being terribly wrong to take strong stands and follow them through.

Or just draw a scum card and blindly push your way to victory for an easy ticket to the next round.

I’m still sorry Jack.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:45 am**

I was pissed when I drew a scum card again in the finals. I literally chucked my phone across the room.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:53 am**

I would like to nominate DDL for this haven't played with other from here to nominate them actually

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:54 am**

G-Man wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:52 pm It's probably best that I never get nominated for this for the following reasons:

1) I don't play often enough to keep my skills sharp.
2) I don't have the level of free time this contest demands.
3) I'd end up playing in character as THE GAME or posting Vocaroo recordings as various Muppets and The Syndicate would be banished from ever participating again.

There was a dude in my game who posted in weird dramatic dialogues with himself. Everyone wasted time suspecting him and it made my life easy.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:56 am**

Has anyone nominated [mention]Quin[/mention] yet?

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:32 am**

i dont wanna

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:54 am**

I nominate Sloonei and MacDougall.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:09 am**

I haven't been around to pay attention, but what about LC? and MacDougall also sounds like a good idea

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am**

Hey [mention]dunya[/mention] and [mention]nutella[/mention] I'm serious about you two. We have fantastic women players and haven't sent one to the tournament. Please throw your hats in the ring.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:24 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:46 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:42 pm Do MU games have a culture considering it’s every mafia site combined?
That forms the culture. Everyone thinks they're hot shit and is out to prove it.

I was told my specialty was seeming unassuming and then springing a trap to win endgame so I did the opposite.

I’ve since messed up like four endgames as surviving towniest leader who is voting for the wrong player.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:26 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm I would like to see @JaggedJimmyJay , @dunya , @nutella and @speedchuck just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.
I like all these suggestions.

Also, @colonialbob or @Tonystarkprime should represent HCRealms.
Still can't play on my phone. I like our suggestions for here though.

I played on my phone.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:32 am**

This tournament is a phantom zone where all your mafia dreams go to die. We should send Vompatti

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:26 am**

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]

Don’t be sorry. You earned that win.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:42 am**

We definitely have a solid group of players around here; I can think of many who would be good candidates this year. Be sure to PM me if you want your hat in the ring! You know you want to.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:53 am**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:26 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm I would like to see @JaggedJimmyJay , @dunya , @nutella and @speedchuck just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.
I like all these suggestions.

Also, @colonialbob or @Tonystarkprime should represent HCRealms.
Still can't play on my phone. I like our suggestions for here though.
I played on my phone.

Yeah but AT&T blocks the website for some stupid reason, so I literally can't play on my phone. Its apparently a known problem. Just a heads-up for our nominees.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:16 am**

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:53 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:26 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:01 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:09 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:44 pm I would like to see @JaggedJimmyJay , @dunya , @nutella and @speedchuck just to name a few throw their hats in the ring. I want to emphasize there are many people who I think would be very good.
I like all these suggestions.

Also, @colonialbob or @Tonystarkprime should represent HCRealms.
Still can't play on my phone. I like our suggestions for here though.
I played on my phone.
Yeah but AT&T blocks the website for some stupid reason, so I literally can't play on my phone. Its apparently a known problem. Just a heads-up for our nominees.

What if we sent Carlos?

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:40 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am Hey @dunya and @nutella I'm serious about you two. We have fantastic women players and haven't sent one to the tournament. Please throw your hats in the ring.

I'm flattered but I'm really not up for it tbh

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:56 am**

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am Hey @dunya and @nutella I'm serious about you two. We have fantastic women players and haven't sent one to the tournament. Please throw your hats in the ring.

I'd love to, but I don't know if I can do long-term game commitments. It's not just one game if I advance, there'll be more games...in succession. Not sure I'm the best fit for that. On the other hand, not being judged for a high post count is so tempting.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:01 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:56 am
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am Hey @dunya and @nutella I'm serious about you two. We have fantastic women players and haven't sent one to the tournament. Please throw your hats in the ring.
I'd love to, but I don't know if I can do long-term game commitments. It's not just one game if I advance, there'll be more games...in succession. Not sure I'm the best fit for that. On the other hand, not being judged for a high post count is so tempting.

Play the way you have played here so far in either alignment, and you'd be a serious candidate to win the whole thing. Both Golden and I won the final game, but we didn't get the top rank votes. You can surpass our achievements.

It's a maximum of three games, but only a very small number of people end up playing that many (play-in game, wild card game, final game). Most likely you'd play two games (play-in, final). I understand it's difficult to commit though, or else I'd be throwing my name in the ring myself. It's also tough given that there will be 10 play-in games played over the summer, and it's not easy to project when your game will be.

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:52 pm**

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:56 am
juliets wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:14 am Hey @dunya and @nutella I'm serious about you two. We have fantastic women players and haven't sent one to the tournament. Please throw your hats in the ring.
I'd love to, but I don't know if I can do long-term game commitments. It's not just one game if I advance, there'll be more games...in succession. Not sure I'm the best fit for that. On the other hand, not being judged for a high post count is so tempting.

Do it. You would rock!

Worst case scenario you can always have a sub fill in for the post-qualifying games.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:30 am**

Yeah I can't do it

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:02 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:30 am Yeah I can't do it

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:34 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:02 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:30 am Yeah I can't do it

Ditto. I'd love to represent, but being unable to access the game (even to read) for two thirds of my waking hours is a bad idea.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:42 pm**

This is what we get when we're a website full of grown-ups. Nobody has time for fun.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:32 pm**

I nominate [mention]M Plus 7[/mention] with me as his backup.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:17 pm**

#Dunyaplay

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:17 pm**

It’s not that time consuming. Your friends will just tell you to never play in a game like that again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:20 pm**

I do think everyone is overestimating our expectations of them.

We don't HAVE to win guys. You're allowed to go and just have fun taking part in something special, without feeling the pressure.

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