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Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:50 pm
by Ricochet
Silly rant below. Double warning for members who haven't read the books all the way through (or haven't been spoiled, at least) to seriously not open the spoiler tab.
So even though it's pretty obvious by now how much the show is capable of twisting with people's minds and reactions during shocking twists and such, I was still overwhelmed by so much talk in Social Media happened and how silly it was at times. What really made me log out of Facebook and even turn my PC off for a week was seeing how every person who read the books, was spoiled regarding to book events, believes the R+L=J theory and/or the Melisandre will rezz Jon theory and so forth would act cocky in reply to every other person who would post "oh noo they killd Jon Snoo". I get the latter camp for being shocked, but how interesting do the former think they are by CONSTANTLY posting reply in the form "Jon Snow will (be) revive(d) next season / Melisandre will rezz him, mark my words, SNAPSHOT THIS REPLY I'M GOING ALL IN ON THIS GUESS NO SWEAT". Urgghhh.
Not to mention the "I haven't watched it yet please don't spoil me I'M SERIOUS I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER IF YOU DO" camp." Seriously?
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:48 pm
by Turnip Head
Ricochet wrote:Silly rant below. Double warning for members who haven't read the books all the way through (or haven't been spoiled, at least) to seriously not open the spoiler tab.
So even though it's pretty obvious by now how much the show is capable of twisting with people's minds and reactions during shocking twists and such, I was still overwhelmed by so much talk in Social Media happened and how silly it was at times. What really made me log out of Facebook and even turn my PC off for a week was seeing how every person who read the books, was spoiled regarding to book events, believes the R+L=J theory and/or the Melisandre will rezz Jon theory and so forth would act cocky in reply to every other person who would post "oh noo they killd Jon Snoo". I get the latter camp for being shocked, but how interesting do the former think they are by CONSTANTLY posting reply in the form "Jon Snow will (be) revive(d) next season / Melisandre will rezz him, mark my words, SNAPSHOT THIS REPLY I'M GOING ALL IN ON THIS GUESS NO SWEAT". Urgghhh.
Not to mention the "I haven't watched it yet please don't spoil me I'M SERIOUS I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER IF YOU DO" camp." Seriously?
You're right, that
was silly.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:23 am
by unfurl
I could not resisted, I read the spoiler tag
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:36 pm
by reywaS
I have mixed feelings on season 5. Some of it was great. Some of it was shit.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:28 pm
by DharmaHelper
reywaS wrote:I have mixed feelings on season 5. Some of it was great. Some of it was shit.
The end of the credits of the last episode was great I agree. 10/10
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:02 pm
by fingersplints
reywaS wrote:I have mixed feelings on season 5. Some of it was great. Some of it was shit.
I feel the same.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:45 pm
by nutella
Idk why I even kept watching through this season. They really fucked up a lot of the storylines. Like the only ones they got mostly right were Arya and Cersei (and kinda Dany I guess but I don't care as much about that >_>). Everything else was just so incredibly fucked up.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:50 pm
by Golden
I don't watch the show or read the books at all, but I'm pretty sure Dany and Arya are the only stories that matter?
Certainly, it feels that way from the outside
and maybe Tyrion.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:42 am
by S~V~S
A lot of people thought Jon was the savior or the Westerosi equivalent thereof. But the actor said he isn't coming back pretty unequivocally and he cut his hair, so
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:49 am
by Ricochet
Ok wow I really don't see one bit of the spoiler text on my tablet.
Maybe rezzd Jon will be intentionally recast. Idk what to make of his statements, because it can easily be a ruse from the producers, as for the hairdo...
I still have friends who legitimately claim Jon is essential to the whole GoT endgame, so to say, and that any less of a rezz/reincarnation would be BS - book, show, regardless.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:29 am
by fingersplints
S~V~S wrote:A lot of people thought Jon was the savior or the Westerosi equivalent thereof. But the actor said he isn't coming back pretty unequivocally and he cut his hair, so
The way he said it though was "I'm dead. I'm not coming back next season." So it is possible we just won't see him next season... while his hair grows back
It's hard to say because I feel the actor and producers would be saying this if he was and wasn't coming back. I think a lot of people, myself included, feel a bit cheated since he seemed so important to the overall story. I always thought that in the end he would team up with Dany + dragons to beat the whitewalkers.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:12 am
by unfurl
fingersplints wrote:S~V~S wrote:A lot of people thought Jon was the savior or the Westerosi equivalent thereof. But the actor said he isn't coming back pretty unequivocally and he cut his hair, so
The way he said it though was "I'm dead. I'm not coming back next season." So it is possible we just won't see him next season... while his hair grows back
It's hard to say because I feel the actor and producers would be saying this if he was and wasn't coming back. I think a lot of people, myself included, feel a bit cheated since he seemed so important to the overall story. I always thought that in the end he would team up with Dany + dragons to beat the whitewalkers.
I really hope Jon comes backs, one way or another, if rezz or even as white walker
He has been my favorite since the start
I did thought, after watching the show that Mellisandre was full of it, about the lord of lightand Stannis,
so if she is able to rezz Jon Snow, at least she will have some purpose in the show
I also thought while watching the show, and watching Jon dying, well they gonna need to burn his body or he is gonna become a white walker
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:26 pm
by Sloonei
fingersplints wrote:reywaS wrote:I have mixed feelings on season 5. Some of it was great. Some of it was shit.
I feel the same.
Me too, sort of. I enjoyed the season from start to finish, but when it wrapped up it didn't feel like enough had happened for a full season. The only plots that felt concluded in any way were the ones around the Wall (though of course, the Wall storyline is really only just beginning but YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN). Arya's story was very good, but felt like it could have all been covered in half a season, and did it really need to take Tyrion 8 episodes to meet Dany? His whole journey felt a bit dragged out (but his eventual arrival and entrance at the fighting pit was one of the highlights of the season).
I've been deliberately avoiding the books so I can enjoy the show on its own merits. I think it's working. If i'd read the books i assume i'd have a number of complaints that don't even exist in my ignorant brain right now. The show is doing just fine.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:28 pm
by zeek
Finally gave in and started watching this three days ago. Almost done with Season 2
#addicted
So, my question is this: Why hasn't anyone made a GOT mafia yet?
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:49 pm
by Golden
Zeek, when you do, I bags being in house Martell
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:54 pm
by zeek
I don't know enough to construct a game! It's ripe for adapting though and it's certainly got the fanbase to fill up quickly.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:13 pm
by S~V~S
zeek wrote:Finally gave in and started watching this three days ago. Almost done with Season 2
#addicted
So, my question is this: Why hasn't anyone made a GOT mafia yet?
Keys, Splints husband, did at the Piano.I started to here but there are sooo many factions, I was thinking of it as a challenge. I think I would like to see how Timmer & MP do Wheel of Time. The way the Flash played out gave me some ideas, too. Basically I was thinking of it as a fluid alignment game. Almost everyone can be recruited, but only by certain people. Some people can be recruited more than once. Not everyone know who can recruit them, although some might.
I was basing my alignments on the books, not the shows. But I don't know how Spoiler-y that would be. For instance, I had thought to (BOOK SPOILERS)
Have Jamie recruitable away from the Lannisters by Brienne, but people who have seen the show but not read the books would totally be confused by that, so it might take away from the central mechanic.
What is nice about it is that you can have as few, or as many, factions as you want, so it can be a small game or a huge one.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:51 pm
by fingersplints
I want to be Tyrion again!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:34 pm
by S~V~S
I think I will submit it to the Speed Queue~ then we can tailor roles to the number of sign ups we have, and if it is awesome, we can then rerun it as a full game with 30+ roles, and if it is awful, well, it was worth trying
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:51 pm
by Illyria
*sings*
Tonight! Tonight! Hot Damn it is coming tonight!
Bonus points if anyone can guess the movie that is from btw.
Also, this will be the first time many of us will have no idea what is about to happen. I feel pressured and at risk.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:48 pm
by S~V~S
West Side Story?
That is the version I have been humming all day long!!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:33 pm
by Ricochet
No spoilies, I'm catching it only tomorrow evening.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:39 pm
by S~V~S
Agreed. I am sure others may not wish to be spoiled.
SPOILERS SHOULD BE PUT IN SPOILER TAGS!! SOME PEOPLE MAY BE WATCHING DELAYED.
Thank You~!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:10 pm
by S~V~S
Brienne can use any bathroom she likes <3 Boo Yah Brienne!!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:57 pm
by reywaS
S~V~S wrote:Brienne can use any bathroom she likes <3 Boo Yah Brienne!!
Easily my favorite scene of the episode. I saw it coming a mile away, yet I literally stood up and started cheering when she rode in.
And what about Pod!? Go Pod!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:11 pm
by Ricochet
The Dorne scene did nothing more than to further piss me off that the Dorne storyline was completely wasted in the show.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:27 pm
by S~V~S
Agreed.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:35 pm
by Illyria
S~V~S wrote:West Side Story?
That is the version I have been humming all day long!!
HAHAHAA.
No, that is a line from "A Christmas Story" when the Dad's major prize is on the way.
Before I start replying to people and espousing my opinion on things, I don't think most of you know how I roll when it comes to stuff like this. I am along for the ride. The only time I have ever gotten upset when something diverged from any book was OOTP, which was a fucking travesty of a movie and it disgusts me. Other than that, I am usually pretty good with what I get as long as it is close. Hollywood is run by morons, so I have low expectations.
Ricochet wrote:The Dorne scene did nothing more than to further piss me off that the Dorne storyline was completely wasted in the show.
I disagree, at least they are slightly more bad ass than they were last season.
LOVED the episode, not knowing what will be happening, for the most part, is kind of freeing and frustrating at the same time. Much like everyone else, I HOLLERED when Brienne came riding out, (POOOOOOOODDDDD!!!!!!)
and then I got all verklempt when Sansa recited the same words as her mother to Brienne. She even looked like her standing there.
(How did Theon kill that guy by shoving a sword through his back when he had his shield on?)
I liked the Dany plot point, and I think I agree with the consensus. She needs reinforcements besides the Unsullied in order to take Westeros.
Ayra is also back to the beginning having to learn to fight while vulnerable to everything.
Ser Davos FTMFW. "I would like some mutton"
And Edd.
He hurt my black and scarred heart. Also GHHOOOOOOOSSSSSTTTTT *sobs*
And now.. The Red Woman... One. WOAAAAH. Two. I believe she is going to try to bring Jon back. It makes sense since she knows it can be done (Beric Donderrean) and they made a point of it in the show. They have skipped and dropped things before, but went out of their way to show this, so I still remain steadfast in my hope.
Mainly because I don't know if I can handle the Starks losing all of their boys-- even if I am Super Girl Power about this show and life in general. I would love to see Jon and Dany make beautiful babies because good lord those two are pretty.
I want to see Sam, he is going to be devastated when he finds out about Jon.
We need a crying smiley!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:50 pm
by Ricochet
It's not about the badassery (although Ellaria is hardly interesting tbqh... muh revengeful widow), it's about how undeveloped the characters and how transitory the setting and the fragments related to this story were. Plus, it gives me the impression that Arianne Martell has been completely written off, which - judging from how relevant and sexy her wikipedia synopsis is - is a shame. [Then again, I saw a new, seductive face in the trailers, so maybe there's still hope...]
Didn't Theon stab him through the neck or somewhere above the back shield, anyway?
I understand the Melissande reveal has been foreshadowed or hinted in the books. It wasn't that compelling of a final scene to me personally. As for the ressurection, I'm wondering how long they'll try to play with it. Usually episodes 2, 7, 9 and 10 are big ones in a season, with not much in between but development (and sometimes filler), so either it'll happen soon or they'll stretch it real thin, which could become annoying.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:49 pm
by sig
So as an avid book fan, who hated the last episode of the last season, is this new episode worth watching or will I start yelling at the screen?
Like I assume the Prince , the Golden Company, and Stoneheart haven't made an appearance.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:01 pm
by reywaS
Illyria wrote:S~V~S wrote:West Side Story?
That is the version I have been humming all day long!!
HAHAHAA.
No, that is a line from "A Christmas Story" when the Dad's major prize is on the way.
Before I start replying to people and espousing my opinion on things, I don't think most of you know how I roll when it comes to stuff like this. I am along for the ride. The only time I have ever gotten upset when something diverged from any book was OOTP, which was a fucking travesty of a movie and it disgusts me. Other than that, I am usually pretty good with what I get as long as it is close. Hollywood is run by morons, so I have low expectations.
Ricochet wrote:The Dorne scene did nothing more than to further piss me off that the Dorne storyline was completely wasted in the show.
I disagree, at least they are slightly more bad ass than they were last season.
LOVED the episode, not knowing what will be happening, for the most part, is kind of freeing and frustrating at the same time. Much like everyone else, I HOLLERED when Brienne came riding out, (POOOOOOOODDDDD!!!!!!)
and then I got all verklempt when Sansa recited the same words as her mother to Brienne. She even looked like her standing there.
(How did Theon kill that guy by shoving a sword through his back when he had his shield on?)
I liked the Dany plot point, and I think I agree with the consensus. She needs reinforcements besides the Unsullied in order to take Westeros.
Ayra is also back to the beginning having to learn to fight while vulnerable to everything.
Ser Davos FTMFW. "I would like some mutton"
And Edd.
He hurt my black and scarred heart. Also GHHOOOOOOOSSSSSTTTTT *sobs*
And now.. The Red Woman... One. WOAAAAH. Two. I believe she is going to try to bring Jon back. It makes sense since she knows it can be done (Beric Donderrean) and they made a point of it in the show. They have skipped and dropped things before, but went out of their way to show this, so I still remain steadfast in my hope.
Mainly because I don't know if I can handle the Starks losing all of their boys-- even if I am Super Girl Power about this show and life in general. I would love to see Jon and Dany make beautiful babies because good lord those two are pretty.
I want to see Sam, he is going to be devastated when he finds out about Jon.
We need a crying smiley!
I think Melisandre will bring Jon back as Thorne and crew break through the door. They will see Jon rise and stop dead in their tracks. Thorne will scream at them to kill Jon (again) and Jon will kill Thorne. That's my prediction anyway. Regardless of the how, I definitely think Jon is coming back.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:31 am
by Ricochet
sig wrote:So as an avid book fan, who hated the last episode of the last season, is this new episode worth watching or will I start yelling at the screen?
Like I assume the Prince , the Golden Company, and Stoneheart haven't made an appearance.
Dunno, the only serious events happen in Dorne.
Also hahhaha, Stoneheart... yeah that's never happening.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:46 am
by S~V~S
sig wrote:So as an avid book fan, who hated the last episode of the last season, is this new episode worth watching or will I start yelling at the screen?
Like I assume the Prince , the Golden Company, and Stoneheart haven't made an appearance.
I am an avid book fan as well. Although I do like the Sansa story arc better on the show if I must be honest. That Jeyne Poole thing was weird. Alot of the book purists I know stopped watching after Shireen & Stannis dying. At this point, for the most part, they are past the books, so perhaps you can be pissed off in advance,lol?
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:00 am
by sig
TV Show AND Book spoilers. I don't think the book spoilers will ruin the show for anyone since we've diverted from it, but if you plan to read the book and want to be surprised I'd suggest you don't look at the below.
Yeah that really really annoyed me, they ruined Stannis character by doing that.
I did end up watching it last night. Parts were okay. The Wall portion was interesting, the red women being an old lady was shocking at first, but when you consider she has glamour and the text always mentions how her necklace is glimmering and how she smells it could be something we will see in the book. The Dany portion was good, I'm thinking she will be the one who unites all the Dothrakian under a single Khal (her) at their city.
Now for what I disliked, the whole Kings Landing portion was meh, the fact that the church locked Loras up for being gay, and his sister the queen for lying about knowing he was gay? While that was never an issue in the books to the church.That is such a wtf moment and leaves the book realm completely. To me it seems like the producers wanted to make the church seem evil or more evil depending on who you side with.
Plus Loras isn't even there in the books he is dying on Dragonstone.
Dorne was, well........it was horribly. THEY KILLED ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING CHARACTERS! All those good chapters the great plot lines of Dorne, the amazing characters, gone. poof. no more Dorne. Ellaria Sand was agaisnt violence to begin with, the sand snakes never did anything agaisnt Doran and by the end of the book we see them working for him. The grand plots of Doran never happened, Plus they killed Hotah
someone who was so skilled he killed a member of the Kingsguard and was at least in the show on an equal level to the two handed Jaime, not to mention they ruined Doran's character, the Sand snakes, and they got rid of Arianne. I did have a brief few seconds where I was hoping the snakes would underestimate Trystane and he would kill them both then get revenge, but no they kill him in a reallllly stupid way. So I'm not impressed with this season. This also shows that Aegon won't make an appearance in the show. Oh and I also dislike that Sansa was shipped off to marry a Bolton by Little Finger, I don't think he'd have given her to Ramsey.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:45 am
by S~V~S
I had problems when they lost Quentyn & Arianne Martell and made Ellaria into some kind of war mongerer. I LOVED Quentyn. I think they trashed the whole Dorne story arc. When Jamie & Bronn went off to rescue Myrcella, I was like WTF?? I 1,000% agree with you re Dorne. That whole thing was shit. It is almost like they treated that whole story arc as a way to kill Myrcella & that was about it. That and burning a 10 y/o girl alive, I was not sure I wanted to come back this year, either, lol. I used to be really active on one of the ASOIAF sub reddits, and "Stannis the Mannis" had a huge following. They lost ALOT of people with that story arc.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:05 pm
by sig
Yes it seems like they only burned her for shock value or they needed to make Stannis such a jerk nobody would care what happened to him. I think without the book to follow the producers are lost. Or they just don't care and are doing their own thing.
I also wonder does Melisandre believe Stannis is the chosen one, or is she simply an agent of chaos who is preparing for the invasion by Dany? I mean she did arrive in Westeros before Dany had her dragons, but you think if the main body of the church agrees Dany is the chosen one, someone would've tuned Melisandre in on it.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:04 pm
by S~V~S
I think she really believed it. That last scene was about how vulnerable she felt. She was SO sure, and she was SO wrong. That combined with the part where she said, "But I saw him fighting in WInterfell...". She is floored that she was wrong, imo.
I am thinking Ramsey will kill has father next week. Roose basically threatened him with Waldas baby over Ramsey playing his games with Sansa; but he swore to crazy Mirandas corpse that he would make them suffer. None of Ramseys dreams come true with Daddy alive, so Daddy has got to go.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:04 pm
by S~V~S
Nice avatar by the way.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:12 pm
by Ricochet
I remember some banter on 4chan that Ramsay possibly killing Roose was either a leaked information or a detail slip in one of the trailers.
Anyway, seriously, any thoughts who this might be?
(1) (2) I sure hope it won't be revealed to be some simple mistress or seductress or whatever, because she managed to get me interested only by two frames in the trailer.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:17 pm
by S~V~S
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:20 pm
by S~V~S
Although that actress looks different
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:23 pm
by sig
Thanks!
If we believe the red women is glamoured/magic then it could be another version. I also saw a theory awhile back that they are all really faceless ones, so if the red women is just a faceless one maybe it's just that. Though one hole in the glamour theory, if she was just glamoured how did she do all that stuff? Have a shadow child, ride a horse, not be old in anyway? The other possibility would be that the Red Women aged because she performed some magic and that was the cost, but I doubt it.
I was over at westeros.org and a good portion of them seem very unhappy with this episode.
Have any of you heard of the Great Northern Conspiracy, if so what do you think? It would be awesome if it was real and I could see GRRM dropping hints in the books about it.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 8:39 am
by Illyria
I have not sig, do tell!
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:08 am
by S~V~S
This is more book based than show based. There was also a Great Southern Conspiracy theory, which I suppose is still possible in the books, due to changes in the story, it would have to significantly change for it to work on the show.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:04 am
by Ricochet
A.V. Club is doing articles with odds on who might die in the next episode(s) and that's such lazy clickbait, even for them.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:34 am
by S~V~S
Yeah, but it does pretty much lay out the Northern Conspiracy Theory, which was the topic.
And I voted in one of those polls, I think that
will die next week.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:14 pm
by Ricochet
Ironically, that name never came up in that article, but Theon's did
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:21 pm
by sig
Illyria wrote:I have not sig, do tell!
SVS posted a good accurate video about it, it's almost 100% book based.
The original theory was created by someone on reddit I believe, it is really in depth and good imo. If you're a book fan you'll enjoy reading it.
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 12:25 pm
by S~V~S
Yeah, I saw it on reddit, too. All those poor Stannis the Mannis people, I have not been there in a while, they must have been broken hearted
Re: ASOIAF: Game of Thrones
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:22 pm
by sig
S~V~S wrote:Yeah, I saw it on reddit, too. All those poor Stannis the Mannis people, I have not been there in a while, they must have been broken hearted
lol yes, I never was a fan of Stannis, but it was heartbreaking to see some of their posts.
