Dogs vs. Cats [END]

#2251

Good game, Doggy D. Luffy!

#2252

Dragomir wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:06 pm Btw, good shit Nova. I'm never town reading you again.

#2253

Someone gimme the link to the dead chat

#2254

https://us20.chatzy.com/12316302496589

#2255

thanks, was a fun read

#2256

Well played Nova, congrats cats!

#2257

Thanks for the invite to the dead chat. The only active dead chat ever and I don't get an invite lol.

#2258

Dang, I should have watched this game! Congrats to all three Fayt, Michelle, and Nova for reaching f3 and congrats to Nova, speed and Rej on the win. Also I see nutella vigged speed so gg. Those are the things I see on the last page, at least.

#2259

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:37 pm Thanks for the invite to the dead chat. The only active dead chat ever and I don't get an invite lol.

Oh I apologize, my week has been completely full of stuff so I forgot about it.

I did remember around lunch time, but then Syndicate ramdomly decided not to let me send PMs with my phone (it has been doing that for years now).

#2260

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.

Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

Thanks for hosting DDL !

#2261

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

There's nothing wrong with the strategy lol. It isn't perfect; nothing is.

#2262

Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.

#2263

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:13 am Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.

Second dumbest lynch in the game.

#2264

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:13 am Also there is no such thing as JJJ letting himself get lynched. I fought as hard as I could to prevent that, but them's the breaks.

Yes I remember. This kind of mislynches made wary that a townie have to be self conscious about his posts like not 'idc what i'm saying, i am town anyway' but 'will I be scumread if i say this'? Because your test was awesome but the fact you gave RL details about how you made it on office on computer and so on, that was a big question mark and made everyone to tinfoil you.

#2265

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:12 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7
There's nothing wrong with the strategy lol. It isn't perfect; nothing is.

It is wrong to stick with it because it may be totally wrong. I noticed it on the other part, as mafia, the power of a wrong Poe and the importance of the strong oppinion of dead villagers.

#2266

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

lol I'm sorry, you played great.

#2267

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:20 amtownie have to be self conscious about his posts like not 'idc what i'm saying, i am town anyway' but 'will I be scumread if i say this'?.

It's always unfortunate to be in this position. A civilian ought to be able to spew out whatever thoughts they want without concern, and most of the time that's me. The last two games though (Persona 5 and this one), I have been wrongly suspected to such an extreme degree that I have actually felt the need to review my own innocent posts with the worry that some stupid small detail will set someone off. I'm rarely even that careful when I'm evil!

#2268

Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.

#2269

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:23 am It is wrong to stick with it because it may be totally wrong. I noticed it on the other part, as mafia, the power of a wrong Poe and the importance of the strong oppinion of dead villagers.

The grouping should be changeable, certainly. If someone refuses to change the POE group then they're asking to lose. Credit in this case to nova for consistently keeping himself out of the POE by the numbers. There were always at least four civilians who looked worse to me. In the end I should have featured him instead of MacDougall, but oh well. Mac and I getting into a game-long mega-tiff is bound to generate an error like that.

#2270

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.

Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.

#2271

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.

Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs

#2272

The response to that experiment (my reveal thereof) genuinely surprised me. I figured I would field some token tinfoil, but I didn't anticipate it just completely convincing people immediately that I'm evil. Shrug

#2273

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs

It definitely was bs. What I actually thought was the most likely result of the experiment (other than nothing at all) was me getting shot. I was okay with that being suspected anyway since I was just the Mutt instead of the full-time cop. It was a sort of cover.

#2274

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am The response to that experiment (my reveal thereof) genuinely surprised me. I figured I would field some token tinfoil, but I didn't anticipate it just completely convincing people immediately that I'm evil. Shrug

I guess it was the universe making up for the TH kill who ended up haunting us with all the soft confirms

#2275

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:36 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:34 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:29 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:27 am Btw Jay was the TSP experiment for real? You were copped by us N1 so that's kind of why we went for TSP + it being a non traceable kill.
Yes it was real. The only detail I omitted by the rules was that I had copped TSP. I actually worried he could be the godfather, but decided to spam him as a top dog read anyway to see what happens.
Well played lol. We figured you copped him after seeing your role 'cause that Persona 5 comparison felt like bs
It definitely was bs. What I actually thought was the most likely result of the experiment (other than nothing at all) was me getting shot. I was okay with that being suspected anyway since I was just the Mutt instead of the full-time cop. It was a sort of cover.

Yeah if we hadn't a hard result on you, I'd peg you for the cop for sure. But with the happenings of D2, I wanted to keep you alive for people to give you shit

#2276

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

Thanks for hosting DDL !

lol it's alright. I'm not mad, it was still fun. Nova played well.

At the end of the day, I only have myself to be blamed for being sussed so much. I had a deep wolf theory back on day 3 but I didn't have the guts to push it hard against Nova until it was too late. I think I was just praying to myself that it's not Nova but haha that was a mistake too. I tried so many ways to see if I can clear myself but I was always in someone's poe lol.

#2277

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm Good. The only losing result that doesn’t completely piss me off.

Good game nova. Nice job. Good game kitties.
Do you see now how much value has a Poe?
I told you and you let yourself lynched for that, to proove it. Your effort in the game was huge o7

I had fun playing and i knew Nova may be mafia. But at the very end of the day my head was completely unable to think and my headache was horrible.

Please forgive me, I couldn't come with the win, it would be nice.

Fayr, i am sorry, I miseread you, I hope you are not mad at me.

Dragomir, sorry for the mislynch.

Conclusion: never let Nova alive after day 3. he is the deep wolf, the big bad one ^^. Well played.

Thanks for hosting DDL !

Nah let Nova live, he's a great scumhunter.

Just try to internalize the moment you almost caught him. Mac and nutella thought he looked too clean. That's what scum nova looks like.

#2278

Town nova is a restless tunneler. He picks a target and never, ever lets go. He could decide you are suspicious on day 1 and go back to it on day 8.

#2279

DDL asked me to post these after the game was over

As of this game i've been mislynched 15/31 games ive played as a civilian

#2280

Just a fun fact

Another way to phrase it is

Ive never survived a Job/Full game to the end as a civilian

#2281

Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts.

#2282

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:57 am Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts.

I think you need to readjust your metrics then. If you can't read sprityo with his low post count, stop trying to read sprityo and wait till he has more posts.

Trying to read people we can't read is what causes mislynches. I got better at this game when I learned to come to terms with my limitations.

#2283

well played nova.

#2284

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:09 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:57 am Just need *one* reason to call you a civilian that carries some weight. It’s extremely hard to get there in a small number of game-relevant posts.
I think you need to readjust your metrics then. If you can't read sprityo with his low post count, stop trying to read sprityo and wait till he has more posts.

Trying to read people we can't read is what causes mislynches. I got better at this game when I learned to come to terms with my limitations.

That’s just it really. Within my POE, it’s often not a “read” as much as the absence of a read. Can’t wait forever! That’s how mafia sprityo squeezes through in blend mode until it’s too late to finally deal with him.

This isn’t to blame sprityo. Everyone play however the hell you please. I’m just not sure the other civilians can win here.

#2285

There’s also the basic struggle that the low post count may never actually change — at least not enough to make it readable. It’s not the raw number either as much as what’s in them. One giant shrug.

#2286

I gotta say, watching you guys in the spec chat accuse everyone but Nova was super fun.

So yeah it's really a fantastic performance by him. Would take some tinfoiling to take him down.

#2287

I feel like we should policy lynch Jay D1 each game just to get him out of the way.

#2288

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm We did it my fellow cats.

Good game y'all. Thanks for hosting DDL.

Cats MVPs of the game, me included

#2289

gj cats, also dogs well played

#2290

My favorite thing about this game was how friendly yet competitive it was. No one had a meltdown or got their feelings hurt and everyone played hard.

My least favorite thing was getting murdered night 1... And I protected NOVA

#2291

Rej wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm We did it my fellow cats.

Good game y'all. Thanks for hosting DDL.

Cats MVPs of the game, me included

We laid a lot of groundwork for town to use to burn each other.

#2292

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:10 pm
Rej wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:38 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:57 pm We did it my fellow cats.

Good game y'all. Thanks for hosting DDL.

Cats MVPs of the game, me included
We laid a lot of groundwork for town to use to burn each other.

hehe yeah

#2293

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:08 pm My favorite thing about this game was how friendly yet competitive it was. No one had a meltdown or got their feelings hurt and everyone played hard.

My least favorite thing was getting murdered night 1... And I protected NOVA

Yeah this game was very friendly, congratulations people!

#2294

obligatory HOF reminder to self

Who is the feline who is posing as a dog, anyway?