Smilies Mafia - GAME END

[Gavial]

I probably wouldn't have been so antagonistic towards you if I hadn't felt like you'd added my name to thepool for no reason lmao

Nah you kinda had every right to be with me at least.

Pretty sure he’s referring to me and the Him/TSP.
But feel free to sheep my reads whenever your wish!

[Lime Coke]

I’m still a bit salty because I KNOW Jack could have played well better and didn’t so I don’t think this win is well deserved.

I'm kinda responsible for the L. It was a town win after that Day 1 and I blew it.

[Scotty]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

[Scotty]

As I said in spec chat- I am not convinced I would have completely got there in f4 of jack being bad, and it all had to do with the fact that the person that looked the most likely to get NK’d was also protected the night mafia didn’t kill, so the WIFOM was killing me. Jack was the titular busser on his team and he played well

[Gavial]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

I mean Jack voted Sean because Sean was going over anyway and Jack wanted Town Credit.
Jack voted TSP because Jack was probably tired from work and didn’t really pay that much attention to what was happening. (Maybe he thought TSP already had 2 votes on them? IDK.)

[Gavial]

As I said in spec chat- I am not convinced I would have completely got there in f4 of jack being bad, and it all had to do with the fact that the person that looked the most likely to get NK’d was also protected the night mafia didn’t kill, so the WIFOM was killing me. Jack was the titular busser on his team and he played well

I gotten there once Nanook flipped Green.
I was like Nanook scum.
Nanook flips Green.
Well shit time to re-eval.

Ok.
TSP goes from Town Read to Scum Read pretty quickly.
Jack goes from Nullish to Scum Read pretty fast.

Then I look into Jack more and it made more sense.
I also explained some of this I had in the neighborhood with @falcon45ca

[MartinGG99]

I’m still a bit salty because I KNOW Jack could have played well better and didn’t so I don’t think this win is well deserved.

So, uh, what do you think he deserved?

To lose? Kinda hard to not lose if you don't win, and yet the mafia have mechanically won.

I understand being salty but I don't understand deciding who deserves what for other players here, as a player yourself, nor do I really understand effort being related to "deserving" a win especially when it comes to being the Big-Bad-Evil-Guy(TM). If you're disappointed by the level of perceived overall level play (or perceived difficulty for one side or another) in this game, then I suggest that perhaps this is not really a suitable game to attach personal worth/meaning/value to winning or losing here.

[Gavial]

I’m still a bit salty because I KNOW Jack could have played well better and didn’t so I don’t think this win is well deserved.

So, uh, what do you think he deserved?

To lose? Kinda hard to not lose if you don't win, and yet the mafia have mechanically won.

I understand being salty but I don't understand deciding who deserves what for other players here, as a player yourself, nor do I really understand effort being related to "deserving" a win especially when it comes to being the Big-Bad-Evil-Guy(TM). If you're disappointed by the level of perceived overall level play (or perceived difficulty for one side or another) in this game, then I suggest that perhaps this is not really a suitable game to attach personal worth/meaning/value to winning or losing here.

No he won. But I wouldn’t say he won where it was all
Him in.
Allot had to do with Luck, Lack of Question and Coming in at good times.
He could have done allot more and because he didn’t it disappointed me because It was like “obvious scum.” And nothing even made me think to change that and the fact he won the game without a claim also shows that in the end he was going up against people that were busy IRL so it was easier (luckier) on him to receive the win.

[Gavial]

NGL I had fun playing with him in the beginning but later on he felt very like even more obvious to me it was like getting irritating me and I just wanted to vote him out because he was wolfing so much he didn’t even attempt to show me off and try and pull a play off.

[Gavial]

I will admit there were some things that he did that were alright. But when Like he said he had a Town read on me and it just suddenly faded kinda irritated me.

[MartinGG99]

Well, here's a basic-ish winner banner I made. If you would like a different style or whatever feel free to bug me, otherwise it should do.

Spoiler: show

@Jackofhearts2005
@TonyStarkPrime
@Seanzie

[Gavial]

Well, here's a basic-ish winner banner I made. If you would like a different style or whatever feel free to bug me, otherwise it should do.

Spoiler: show

@Jackofhearts2005
@TonyStarkPrime
@Seanzie

I think it’s great even though it’s theirs. Maybe 3 instead of 4 Smiles would be better but I’m not the one that should care it’s there choice.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

Sheep me my reads are great. :wowee:

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

I mean Jack voted Sean because Sean was going over anyway and Jack wanted Town Credit.
Jack voted TSP because Jack was probably tired from work and didn’t really pay that much attention to what was happening. (Maybe he thought TSP already had 2 votes on them? IDK.)

For the record, I planned to switch at the buzzer so the vote on TSP was intended to be for show.

[Gavial]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

I mean Jack voted Sean because Sean was going over anyway and Jack wanted Town Credit.
Jack voted TSP because Jack was probably tired from work and didn’t really pay that much attention to what was happening. (Maybe he thought TSP already had 2 votes on them? IDK.)

For the record, I planned to switch at the buzzer so the vote on TSP was intended to be for show.

Ah that makes more sense then.

[Gavial]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

Sheep me my reads are great. :wowee:

Idk man. Falcon and LC sheeping me wins this game.
But you and TSP got rid of me to make that not happen.
But the reason I was rid of was actually because of me and my dumb move at the end lol.

[falcon45ca]

Nice endgame Jack! No way I was getting there on you when you could've won the game a RD earlier.


Sorry Gav.

Mafia, no matter what, has both elements of strategy and luck. Jack voting TSP the RD before when he could've won the game that RD by simply tying the vote with me & TSP made it impossible for me to flip him before Ender or LC.

Sure, I could've sheeped you on Jack...but then if I sheeped you on TSP the game is over anyways. So what's the difference?


Thanks for the host! GG Maf

[Gavial]

Nice endgame Jack! No way I was getting there on you when you could've won the game a RD earlier.


Sorry Gav.

Mafia, no matter what, has both elements of strategy and luck. Jack voting TSP the RD before when he could've won the game that RD by simply tying the vote with me & TSP made it impossible for me to flip him before Ender or LC.

Sure, I could've sheeped you on Jack...but then if I sheeped you on TSP the game is over anyways. So what's the difference?


Thanks for the host! GG Maf

Well yeah it was basically town wins or mafia wins.

[Gavial]

It’s like either this happened or it was TSP and Jack gone instantly.
Because if I would have ended my vote with TSP, Jack never makes it out of the next day alive unless he had a god tier (2-shot) claim.

[Gavial]

Like if he would to come in and be like.
“Hold on Gavial! It’s actually Rondo!”.

I’m 2-Shot JOAT.
Have 3 abilities but can only use 2.
Have Motion Detector, Modifier Checker and Roleblocker.

Checked Rondo and he has detection immunity modifier.
He also moved last night.

The check he has on himself is false Gavial! You gotta believe me!

[Gavial]

Huh I don’t actually know what to think now.
That claim from Jack might make sense.

[Gavial]

Although maybe not entirely that claim as it probably just a 1 for 1 trade but you get my point. He could have sold me on Rondo.

[Gavial]

Then killed me during the night going into the same F4 as today was.

[Gavial]

@Jackofhearts2005
There you go Jack, I’m giving you advice on how to fool me.

[Gavial]

I’m a sucker for those “deep wolf alert” kinda deals.
Especially if he just randomly kills LC too.

[TonyStarkPrime]

How to fool gav step one claim a crazy role and also claim that someone else who is ~lock town is a crazy role and a wolf

[Gavial]

How to fool gav step one claim a crazy role and also claim that someone else who is ~lock town is a crazy role and a wolf

Well technically if the person has detection immunity or someone roleblocker Dyson then Rondo could be wolf.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Jackofhearts2005
There you go Jack, I’m giving you advice on how to fool me.

But I didn’t need to fool you.

[Alison]

gg

[Gavial]

@Jackofhearts2005
There you go Jack, I’m giving you advice on how to fool me.

But I didn’t need to fool you.

Ah so you want to die.
Your gonna pull the “where’s my buddies?” Card eh.
I’ve done that before and won so I’m curious to see how you approach that.

[MartinGG99]

Well, here's a basic-ish winner banner I made. If you would like a different style or whatever feel free to bug me, otherwise it should do.

Spoiler: show

@Jackofhearts2005
@TonyStarkPrime
@Seanzie

Apologies for the ping again but Syn made a winner banners as well, if you would prefer them:



Or you could have both of them! In which case I'm sure that wont be a problem unless someone makes a different "Smilies mafia" or if the site culture/tradition murders me for offering more than 1 banner rather than a single, "official", banner.

@Jackofhearts2005
@TonyStarkPrime
@Seanzie

[Seanzie]

Gg to Mafia! Made the moves you needed to make and even though you had some situations that could have swung you wildly in the town’s direction, you held fast and took advantage.

Also lol that jack was the buzzer on all mafia getting lynched in this game

I mean Jack voted Sean because Sean was going over anyway and Jack wanted Town Credit.
Jack voted TSP because Jack was probably tired from work and didn’t really pay that much attention to what was happening. (Maybe he thought TSP already had 2 votes on them? IDK.)

1. I think Jack could have voted to save me there instead of flip me.

2. I would have survived if it wasn't for the fact that I had office hours at EoD time.

[juliets]

GG everyone and congrats mafia!