The Molly Maguires Mafia (ENDGAME)

#1551

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:58 pm
Luckbox Inc wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:56 pm Amazing LC

I didn't really follow after I died (or really before I died honestly)-- but you must have played great.
He did. Miles better than his usual scum performance; he's really broken out of his "polarized" meta now. Compared to Buckets it was a huge improvement.

He didn't get pressured much though which is usually what gets him. Still an improvement. Was a clean game.

#1552

I'm glad that I won the game I at the least unpolarized myself and actually tried to better my scum game.

I did start panicking near the end, especially after the accidental no kill on Day 3, the longer the game went the more I wanted it to end so I was starting to freeze up.

Good work Luckbox, I'm sorry if I was harsh on you being inactive during the game in the discord, but you did an amazing job spewing people as possibly partnered and me not with you.

Thanks for the compliments.

GGs.

#1553

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:03 am I'm glad that I won the game I at the least unpolarized myself and actually tried to better my scum game.

I did start panicking near the end, especially after the accidental no kill on Day 3, the longer the game went the more I wanted it to end so I was starting to freeze up.

Good work Luckbox, I'm sorry if I was harsh on you being inactive during the game in the discord, but you did an amazing job spewing people as possibly partnered and me not with you.

Thanks for the compliments.

GGs.

Nah you did good. Don't feel bad about your endgame play or whatever. Everyone townread you early when usually you get caught D1.

#1554

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:37 am @Alison I think it probably just is LC

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:07 pm Lime Coke is a wolf

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:00 am Esooa has been killed. She was Thomas Munley, one of the Molly Maguires.
Gee, I wonder why Esooa was killed when Ender was hard tunnelling her.

Man, imagine if you posted this and decided to work with me rather than just put all the weight of the game on me there.

#1555

Oh well. LC bus was very well done. I liked the Early Alison/LB bus pivots that were made. Good job on that shit.

#1556

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:37 am @Alison I think it probably just is LC

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:07 pm Lime Coke is a wolf

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:00 am Esooa has been killed. She was Thomas Munley, one of the Molly Maguires.
Gee, I wonder why Esooa was killed when Ender was hard tunnelling her.
Man, imagine if you posted this and decided to work with me rather than just put all the weight of the game on me there.

I told you straight to your face that dead town wanted LC dead. I gave you the answer who the mafia was and you refused to listen. Don't put that on me or pretend like you had no choice but to refuse to listen to me because I wasn't "cooperative" enough when I literally had the solve and the reason and you turned away for it for no reason at all.

#1557

gg all, wp everyone and especially BK

way to go on breaking your meta

#1558

Yup and look how that worked.

#1559

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:20 am Yup and look how that worked.

I voted right, you voted wrong. The loss is on you, not me. Don't try to push blame on the people who caught scum.

#1560

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:22 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:20 am Yup and look how that worked.
I voted right, you voted wrong. The loss is on you, not me. Don't try to push blame on the people who caught scum.

Except we both loss lol

#1561

i don’t think it’s fair to blame wilgy entirely for the loss alison

he subbed into a zero posting slot, was PoE’d by everyone and put in a lot of effort to post himself clear (and arguably played the hardest of anyone down the stretch)

i get you were busy and that’s not in your control but respectfully, in F3 you didn’t case BK at all and just said “sheep dead town” so i don’t think it’s really fair to blame wilgy so much when you gave him practically nothing to work with the last day

he should have listened to dead town, yes, but it’s also on you as the other villager to try to help him see why BK is the wolf and you didn’t really (which again is not really your fault because you were busy but it is an extremely difficult position to put him in and you should recognize that)

very well played on reevaluating and getting the correct solve though

#1562

Yeah we both lost. But don't try to push the blame on me for that loss by saying I didn't "work with" you. I don't like it when I make the right decisions and someone who made the wrong ones try to blame everyone but themselves. Just say "yeah I guess I made a bad call, my bad, gg". When I no voted and griefed that vote I immediately apologized and admitted my mistake. I didn't make up an excuse about how it was someone else's fault.

#1563

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:28 am i don’t think it’s fair to blame wilgy entirely for the loss alison

he subbed into a zero posting slot, was PoE’d by everyone and put in a lot of effort to post himself clear (and arguably played the hardest of anyone down the stretch)

i get you were busy and that’s not in your control but respectfully, in F3 you didn’t case BK at all and just said “sheep dead town” so i don’t think it’s really fair to blame wilgy so much when you gave him practically nothing to work with the last day

he should have listened to dead town, yes, but it’s also on you as the other villager to try to help him see why BK is the wolf and you didn’t really (which again is not really your fault because you were busy but it is an extremely difficult position to put him in and you should recognize that)

very well played on reevaluating and getting the correct solve though

My problem isn't that he made the wrong call. Wrong calls are made in F3 all the time, I'm not going to go around flaming everyone who votes a townie there. My problem is that he made the wrong call and his first reaction was to be like "well you should have done XYZ" instead of "well I should have voted the mafia". I really don't like it when people do that, when their kneejerk reaction is to shift the blame.

I dunno, maybe I'm just grumpy because of IRL shit. But it didn't feel great voting the right person, giving the right reasons for voting that person, and then being told in endgame that I should have done more.

#1564

I find myself increasingly grumpy in postgame chats lately so I don't know if I've been grumpier or if the games have just been shit. Maybe I'll just refrain from commenting in postgames in the future and just vent in private.

#1565

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:31 am
Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:28 am i don’t think it’s fair to blame wilgy entirely for the loss alison

he subbed into a zero posting slot, was PoE’d by everyone and put in a lot of effort to post himself clear (and arguably played the hardest of anyone down the stretch)

i get you were busy and that’s not in your control but respectfully, in F3 you didn’t case BK at all and just said “sheep dead town” so i don’t think it’s really fair to blame wilgy so much when you gave him practically nothing to work with the last day

he should have listened to dead town, yes, but it’s also on you as the other villager to try to help him see why BK is the wolf and you didn’t really (which again is not really your fault because you were busy but it is an extremely difficult position to put him in and you should recognize that)

very well played on reevaluating and getting the correct solve though
My problem isn't that he made the wrong call. Wrong calls are made in F3 all the time, I'm not going to go around flaming everyone who votes a townie there. My problem is that he made the wrong call and his first reaction was to be like "well you should have done XYZ" instead of "well I should have voted the mafia". I really don't like it when people do that, when their kneejerk reaction is to shift the blame.

I dunno, maybe I'm just grumpy because of IRL shit. But it didn't feel great voting the right person, giving the right reasons for voting that person, and then being told in endgame that I should have done more.

that’s totally fair yeah

it was a very difficult situation all around

#1566

instead of pointing fingers let’s just congratulate BK for proving that he shouldn’t be underestimated and working hard to improve his wolf game

#1567

BK definitely did well this game yeah.

#1568

Yes you got the solve Alison. No you didn't help Wilgy get there at all and that's the other part of the equation. Lime Coke had to do practically nothing to seem like the guy Wilgy should have trusted. You were being tonally negative and Lime Coke was trivially being helpful and that was literally enough. But you got busy and that can't be held against you.

Should Wilgy have been able to get there on his own? Maybe. And he might not have even got there had you tried anyway. So ultimately who cares.

But neither of you should be squaring sole blame at each other. Dead town who let LC get away without being pressured (his literal weakness) are just as much at fault. But nobody is more responsible for this town loss than LC.

#1569

I let my confidence on meta blind me. That's a feels bad.

Good job breaking your meta LC.

Now I have to catch you next time to prove to myself I can still read you.

#1570

Nice job

#1571

GG mafia.
I've been hearing that Lime Coke is an alt.

#1572

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:01 am I let my confidence on meta blind me. That's a feels bad.

Good job breaking your meta LC.

Now I have to catch you next time to prove to myself I can still read you.

Lesson for next time: Meta reads shouldn't be the only reason to read someone's alignment.

#1573

Hally wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:38 am instead of pointing fingers let’s just congratulate BK for proving that he shouldn’t be underestimated and working hard to improve his wolf game

Wait there's an alternative to pointing fingers? Impossible! Kappa

#1574

I agree with @Hally. Let’s not squabble over who lost the game more. Town needs to work together for the win. It’s one of the harder parts of the game.

Well done, @Lime Coke! Mafia totally deserve this win

And thanks for hosting @leetic

#1575

Worst game in a awhile smh I blame esooa

#1576

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:06 pm Worst game in a awhile smh I blame esooa

Or we could not point fingers and instead congratulate the mafia.

#1577

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:53 pm Grats on the win LC, very well played

Would you say your more or less AtE as wolf?

#1578

I didn’t see much of this but Lime Coke did good.
Esooa caught him though.

#1579

CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:34 am GG mafia.
I've been hearing that Lime Coke is an alt.

Lime Coke is Bradland.

#1580

Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:52 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:34 am GG mafia.
I've been hearing that Lime Coke is an alt.
Lime Coke is Bradland.

Ah ok. Seems I won with Brad in Akemi Homura.

#1581

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:19 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:14 am
Alison wrote: ↑Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 1:37 am @Alison I think it probably just is LC

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Dec 20, 2021 10:07 pm Lime Coke is a wolf

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:00 am Esooa has been killed. She was Thomas Munley, one of the Molly Maguires.
Gee, I wonder why Esooa was killed when Ender was hard tunnelling her.
Man, imagine if you posted this and decided to work with me rather than just put all the weight of the game on me there.
I told you straight to your face that dead town wanted LC dead. I gave you the answer who the mafia was and you refused to listen. Don't put that on me or pretend like you had no choice but to refuse to listen to me because I wasn't "cooperative" enough when I literally had the solve and the reason and you turned away for it for no reason at all.

Nah man I’m sticking up for Wilgy.

Just because some players called someone scum doesn’t mean they are 100% Scum.
It’s also a good thing for scum to use against a player to win which you could have done as wolf.

It’s like people saying if the best mafia players in the game all rolled mafia, mafia just wins.
I don’t agree with it, I think it’s dumb, I think everyone is equal and unless something is 100% it’s still only a probability.

#1582

Would I kill a player to frame another player and use it against them as wolf?

You get your ass I would.

#1583

Bet your*

#1584

CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:54 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:52 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:34 am GG mafia.
I've been hearing that Lime Coke is an alt.
Lime Coke is Bradland.
Ah ok. Seems I won with Brad in Akemi Homura.

I'm BlueKang in MU if you don't know.

#1585

CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:31 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:06 pm Worst game in a awhile smh I blame esooa
Or we could not point fingers and instead congratulate the mafia.

Yes I blame esooa cause she made everyone play with me

also stop being a stalker

#1586

Kami wrote: ↑Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:37 pm
CRichard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 7:31 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Dec 25, 2021 6:06 pm Worst game in a awhile smh I blame esooa
Or we could not point fingers and instead congratulate the mafia.
Yes I blame esooa cause she made everyone play with me

also stop being a stalker

Is that a joke? it feels out of place to say that tbh.

#1587

agree with kami

#1588

I could have subbed into this game, if I weren't multitabbing.

#1589

Still I recommend to anyone reading not to multi tab. Though ultimately it's up to you.

This is your last shot. Who is behind all the murders?