Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [END]

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HAMMER IS 3.

Poll ended at Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:00 pm

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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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like right now this game is heading towards achro -> turbo falcon

this is either good or bad for town

but bad for you either way

so

try to like say things? lol
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:19 pm I wish Wilgy had have not arbitrarily excluded Falcon from his solving efforts. Really annoying.
I am obvs town bro
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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jesus christ I hope he's scum
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:22 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:21 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:13 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm @MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes

@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
My POE has more than just you inside it, and I've said as much.



I mean, it's not like there's been a lot of movement in your sus of my slot since I voted you, right?
You think its mac if not me? Do his mountain of sabi interactions not sway you? ;o
Are you trying to help me find more town?
well if you aren't it and I am going over today yes. Any solving you can do will help in f3. Like, you are kind of meat atm in f3 and if it is someone who isnt obvious you need to like, show your work.
But I thought I'm scum to you



How would any of that matter in an F3 if I'm scum?



So your solve is in Porscha, Mac & Wilgy



Who? You just were talking about Mac as town...so is it Wilgy or Porscha for you?
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:25 pm jesus christ I hope he's scum
You are voting me.



Jesus Christ I hope you already think that
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There's basically two worlds I am living in right now, falcon. Porscha has signaled she will vote for me and I am dead

Either you are scum and hooray

Or you are town and f3 is probably going to end in a loss because you aren't providing anything to really dig into.

I don't think you posting more is going to suddenly make you obv town if you are a wolf, but in the world you are town it could help people see you as townier.
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I am playing past today, falcon. It's a thing. I currently think you are scum but also if it is in f3 I am trying to give you good advice if you aren't.

Is this just a thing I do? See into multiple worlds and try to play optimally for both? Am I just weird? x(
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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So what's your solve if I'm town?


Who's in the F3, and who's the Maf?
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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Wilgy voting Porscha and leaving without assessing whether Porscha was even viable or anything is the height of terrible btw. I almost just wanna kill him for his terrible play here. All he's being cleared for is wifom.
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Hm. Not completely sure.

If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game

I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf

mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:41 pm Wilgy voting Porscha and leaving without assessing whether Porscha was even viable or anything is the height of terrible btw. I almost just wanna kill him for his terrible play here. All he's being cleared for is wifom.
terrible and townie though tbh
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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But no... that's for someone else in f3.

We have to solve between Achro and Falcon. And I'm going with Achro for a few reasons. Dead town sheep. TMI. But mostly because if Achro doesn't die here and I get killed I'm not confident he makes f3 very hard for whoever is there. I think town has a better chance to win an f3 without him in it. That's not me saying you'd vote bad btw achro I think you just win the game as mafia in f3.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm But no... that's for someone else in f3.

We have to solve between Achro and Falcon. And I'm going with Achro for a few reasons. Dead town sheep. TMI. But mostly because if Achro doesn't die here and I get killed I'm not confident he makes f3 very hard for whoever is there. I think town has a better chance to win an f3 without him in it. That's not me saying you'd vote bad btw achro I think you just win the game as mafia in f3.
I'm capable, falcon is my most likely solve as well so it's not the worst thing. Trying to become less sensitive to mislynchings so it's fine lol.
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Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm Hm. Not completely sure.

If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game

I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf

mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
if you are in f3 with one of these, keep this in mind along with wifom etc. You should have an extra later of 'hrm' with your inclinations posted today if you are chosen to survive to f3. Don't be reactionary, but at the same time be more skeptical than you were today x(
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Or just turbo falcon and shrug at suboptimal town play that's also fine x)
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Let's leave it up to rand
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Nvm ok bye
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thats not rand at all
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GG town.

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Day 1 EOD was not planned coordination, falcon was just the only town there lol

Day 2 EOD was not planned in any way, I was truthful that I would never have condoned that. I tried to keep a brave face after that, but it put a damper on me.

Other than that, not my best performance but at least I was a little more spirited day 3 compared to whatever I was doing day 1. Thank you for playing with me.
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nice

good job everyone... fun game
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Thanks for playing, everyone.

This setup has now produced a 2-0 town record. That's still a tiny sample, but I will ask the squad how they feel: did it strike you as balanced and fair?

Someone said earlier that a Day 1 double chop is townsided. That's true. It is townsided on purpose, because otherwise 8 vs. 2 mountainous may often be mafiasided. So this is meant to be one way of balancing the playing field. It remains an experiment though.
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Good game everyone. Good job town! Nice try mafia. Thanks a ton to our host and mods!

Sorry I was busy D1. Don't blame y'all for chopping me one bit since I didn't have an amazing start to the day and was just afk after that. Glad town got there even with the double town chop D1 though!
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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probably too town sided although fun tbh

double chops are extremely powerful for information.
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:41 pm Wilgy voting Porscha and leaving without assessing whether Porscha was even viable or anything is the height of terrible btw. I almost just wanna kill him for his terrible play here. All he's being cleared for is wifom.
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Oh. The game is over.

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I hope that everyone's primary takeaway from this game is that both North Carolina and Indiana are shit states.
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Oh yeah, @MacDougall I forbid you from bringing up Assassination Classroom when I am unable to defend myself. :meany:
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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:23 pm Oh yeah, @MacDougall I forbid you from bringing up Assassination Classroom when I am unable to defend myself. :meany:
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm probably too town sided although fun tbh

double chops are extremely powerful for information.
Idk, from my pov, both mafia were in a PoE of ~3 or 4 from day 1. I don't think that's set up.

Also, the double kill became anti-town the moment Seanzie and Mac went at it.
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:08 pm Thanks for playing, everyone.

This setup has now produced a 2-0 town record. That's still a tiny sample, but I will ask the squad how they feel: did it strike you as balanced and fair?

Someone said earlier that a Day 1 double chop is townsided. That's true. It is townsided on purpose, because otherwise 8 vs. 2 mountainous may often be mafiasided. So this is meant to be one way of balancing the playing field. It remains an experiment though.
I think 8v2 is heavily mafia sided, but the moment you introduce polarized reads where someone like Alison can say I'm very confident X is town on day 1 locked in, the balance is completely thrown off. Small games suffer a disproportionate amount from easy reads.
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:05 pm GG town.

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Day 1 EOD was not planned coordination, falcon was just the only town there lol

Day 2 EOD was not planned in any way, I was truthful that I would never have condoned that. I tried to keep a brave face after that, but it put a damper on me.

Other than that, not my best performance but at least I was a little more spirited day 3 compared to whatever I was doing day 1. Thank you for playing with me.
To answer your earlier question, yes the way I solved you D1 does work and catch Maf.


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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]

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NotAnAxehole wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:42 pm
Achromatic wrote: Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm probably too town sided although fun tbh

double chops are extremely powerful for information.
Idk, from my pov, both mafia were in a PoE of ~3 or 4 from day 1. I don't think that's set up.

Also, the double kill became anti-town the moment Seanzie and Mac went at it.
Nah I am talking macro mafia balance not this one to be clear. Jjj knows I am coming from a not this game perspective.
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