Hot Fuzz Mafia [GAME OVER]

[falcon45ca]

But I'm Town...if you feel you did a lot of work building a case against me, it was work only for Maf.



Who would be cleared after I'm gone? I am town, the game will continue. So who's clear town based off my flip?

[falcon45ca]

Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.




Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Nook] aubergineFor what it's worth, Porscha's tunnel on me feels like my tunnel on Neon in Champs...that is, done with the best of intentions despite being wrong.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm town. Tho I've not been active, which is a scum tell, it's inaccurate this game

am I dumb or does this come as like ........ idk ........ maybe aligned

Imo you're very smart and inciteful

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

He's in his wolf range.

He doesn't believe in any of his sr (hasn't moved his vote even tho he said anne cape and I are locked wolves).

Hasnt behaved like town Mac

Does Mac biff it that hard D1 as Maf?



Not IME

Yes. He has been outted as maf D1 in like two games I have seen

Can you link those games, so that we may compare & contrast that Mac to this Mac?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37015

Mac was a wolf and nk N1 because he was outted D1.

Need to find the other game.

And you feel Mac is playing the same way he did during Warhammer?

what do you guys think of this interaction between falcon and sabi
i'm leaning it being nonaligned?

Insert mildly insulting meme here that im not 100% sure we're on close enough terms for

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Falcon has spent 7 days voting town lol

That should lock me as Town, Maf falcon is not afraid to bus, he does it a lot

in what i consider likely to not be tmi from nook, but rather nook tr'ing me, in saying that falcon voted town 7 days (since he voted me yesterday).............. falcon gives a response that is fine in verbiage but the tone throws me as it feels lightly panicked. (ftr I do think wolf falcon is willing to bus) but it sorta feels like falcon conveniently kept wilgy in his poe constantly to the point of making him a difference check but never voted him with any seriousness. like... he was perhaps keeping the bussing option open the entire day if he needed to do it. luckily for wilgy, he had some support from others and I think this prevented falcon from hellbussing wilgy b/c it was almost salvageable

Its actually "nanook forgot how many days there have been" combined with "nanook is confirmation biased into a falcon mafia world" but i think the point holds up if you change it to voted for 6 town in a row and against a mafia wagon on the seventh day tbh

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ok nvm you've returned to being based

[Porscha]

I'm town. Tho I've not been active, which is a scum tell, it's inaccurate this game

am I dumb or does this come as like ........ idk ........ maybe aligned

Imo you're very smart and inciteful

oh no! what am I inciting ;p

[Porscha]

Does Mac biff it that hard D1 as Maf?



Not IME

Yes. He has been outted as maf D1 in like two games I have seen

Can you link those games, so that we may compare & contrast that Mac to this Mac?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37015

Mac was a wolf and nk N1 because he was outted D1.

Need to find the other game.

And you feel Mac is playing the same way he did during Warhammer?

what do you guys think of this interaction between falcon and sabi
i'm leaning it being nonaligned?

Insert mildly insulting meme here that im not 100% sure we're on close enough terms for

I dish I can take it it's okay

[Porscha]

Does Mac biff it that hard D1 as Maf?



Not IME

Yes. He has been outted as maf D1 in like two games I have seen

Can you link those games, so that we may compare & contrast that Mac to this Mac?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/37015

Mac was a wolf and nk N1 because he was outted D1.

Need to find the other game.

And you feel Mac is playing the same way he did during Warhammer?

what do you guys think of this interaction between falcon and sabi
i'm leaning it being nonaligned?

Insert mildly insulting meme here that im not 100% sure we're on close enough terms for

I dish I can take it it's okay

[Porscha]

Ok nvm you've returned to being based

oh thank god

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm town. Tho I've not been active, which is a scum tell, it's inaccurate this game

am I dumb or does this come as like ........ idk ........ maybe aligned

Imo you're very smart and inciteful

oh no! what am I inciting ;p

Insightful inciteful, potato rutabaga

[Porscha]

Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.




Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat

it's fried green tomato................. really scum slipping on your fried green produce there, falcon

[Porscha]

But I'm Town...if you feel you did a lot of work building a case against me, it was work only for Maf.



Who would be cleared after I'm gone? I am town, the game will continue. So who's clear town based off my flip?

idk if you flip town i'm clinging to neon for my life and then probs looking at nook

[falcon45ca]

Porscha & Nook is my solve. Legacy it beeches, cuz I'm a fried green potato town.




Is this one of my finest games? Hell nah. But it is one of my town games, believe 'dat

it's fried green tomato................. really scum slipping on your fried green produce there, falcon

I



Am



Town.



Book it.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

[obscurity]

I've been busy pray but I'll make sure to be on before day end to read Porscha's stuff and make a final decision

@falcon45ca can you answer the question I asked Porscha and Wilgy: what are you most proud of about your play this game and what is your biggest regret?

[falcon45ca]

I've been busy pray but I'll make sure to be on before day end to read Porscha's stuff and make a final decision

@falcon45ca can you answer the question I asked Porscha and Wilgy: what are you most proud of about your play this game and what is your biggest regret?

I'm not proud of anything I've done this game really....like, if I have to say something, it would be reading Jack's ISO & noting how it was too polite....but I GTH TR him anyway, so I biffed it in the end zone.



My biggest regret is just not being able to get me feet under me from the get go. I feel like I barely even understand where we're at right now or how we got here

[obscurity]

hm okay

idk how to feel about Porscha's stuff on Falcon. I'm leaning towards it being.. not super convincing. some points are okay, but then she is sort of throwing quotes out there but in a lot of the quotes being like "idk, is it REALLY paired though?" - like some of it feels like work to show she's doing work

there is some stuff from porscha that feels genuine but i also sort of think it's just been good scumplay

i think the worst part of falcon is he has scum sided w/a lot of his voting and was protected by mafia, like i ain't going to stick my neck out for him either.. but idk porscha's approach to today just more-so fits what i'd expect a wolf to be doing here, so i think i'm sticking w/my porscha vote.

[obscurity]

it's sort of a weird scenario, but i just think the game as a whole makes more sense with a team of wilgy/porscha than wilgy/falcon because the MLs felt more intentionally steered by porscha in places, and i really did see how she was navigating things away from wilgy

falcon's voting record isn't great, and he could fit in his own way, as the way he was being shielded by jack and wilgy, but i'm going to stick to my initial instinct with this, and what i do feel the kills point more toward.

like part of why i was starting to feel so convinced wilgy would flip red was i really really saw the porscha/wilgy teaming, even with my theory that porscha thought the lucy kill looked more damning for her partner wilgy than it did, then sort of tried to throw stuff at him and backed off.. i wasn't really assured by her explanation

[obscurity]

i'd say i'd lean 70/30 on porscha over falcon. but i won't pretend that there aren't some decent points against falcon rounded up, so hopefully you guys are right if he does flip

[obscurity]

Points For Falcon Mafia:
-Bad voting record
-Shielded hard by 2 mafia seeming to scumsided, Wilgy's flip on him potentially tactical
-Weird that he thought there was a mafia in Neon/Wilgy but voted Porscha.. without really explaining why
-Anne thought Wilgy/Falcon before she died, seemed like the only substantial team read made

Points for Falcon Town:
-Tracked nowhere
-Sort of seemed like he was being pocketed by mafia/they were vying for his vote
-Apparently, I found a post in another game him saying he doesn't post as much as scum because he dislikes lying, and here he has posted a decent amount
-Some lines feel genuine/lacking TMI.

Points For Porscha Mafia:
-It felt like Wilgy's push on Porscha/interactions with her and the way he approached her differed from how he approached anyone else
-Wilgy turned read on Porscha, Wilgy reluctant to push Porscha
-Pyxxy death, also lucy death when saying to look at her/Wilgy
-Steers away from Wilgy many EODs, big factor in the Anne ML which happened specifically EOD
-Posts just had generally seemed wolfy yesterday; seems to be pushing anywhere she thinks will take off, including attempts to push Ruri - similar agenda to Wilgy
-Partnery approach to Wilgy, pushes Wilgy when she thinks it will take off then realizes he is salvageable and backs off, no real explanation for read change

Points For Porscha Town:
-Seems towny/solvey today, came off a bit better than Falc in their initial interactions
-Looks better from WIlgy spew than Falcon
-Claims polarized scumplay
-Some potential decent spew



--The stuff against Porscha still feels more substantial to me.

[Creature]

Oh shit it seems we're screwed

[Creature]

Yah I still trust Neon the best because they got DrWilgy.

[Creature]

This game is so complicated and I could see anyone but Neon being wolf here. Should I take Mac's hand on obscurity too?

[Creature]

Points For Falcon Mafia:
-Bad voting record
-Shielded hard by 2 mafia seeming to scumsided, Wilgy's flip on him potentially tactical
-Weird that he thought there was a mafia in Neon/Wilgy but voted Porscha.. without really explaining why
-Anne thought Wilgy/Falcon before she died, seemed like the only substantial team read made

Points for Falcon Town:
-Tracked nowhere
-Sort of seemed like he was being pocketed by mafia/they were vying for his vote
-Apparently, I found a post in another game him saying he doesn't post as much as scum because he dislikes lying, and here he has posted a decent amount
-Some lines feel genuine/lacking TMI.

Points For Porscha Mafia:
-It felt like Wilgy's push on Porscha/interactions with her and the way he approached her differed from how he approached anyone else
-Wilgy turned read on Porscha, Wilgy reluctant to push Porscha
-Pyxxy death, also lucy death when saying to look at her/Wilgy
-Steers away from Wilgy many EODs, big factor in the Anne ML which happened specifically EOD
-Posts just had generally seemed wolfy yesterday; seems to be pushing anywhere she thinks will take off, including attempts to push Ruri - similar agenda to Wilgy
-Partnery approach to Wilgy, pushes Wilgy when she thinks it will take off then realizes he is salvageable and backs off, no real explanation for read change

Points For Porscha Town:
-Seems towny/solvey today, came off a bit better than Falc in their initial interactions
-Looks better from WIlgy spew than Falcon
-Claims polarized scumplay
-Some potential decent spew



--The stuff against Porscha still feels more substantial to me.

tbh I trust both falcon45ca and Porscha when they say their wolfgame ain't good. If any of them is wolf here they're playing superpar.

[Porscha]

This is what this eod has come to eh

[Porscha]

I would just like to say oscar that I believe it is blatant misrepresentation to say I was saying big factor for the anne ML

[Porscha]

I mean if it isnt falcon then it has to be between nook and oscar imo and creature dies tonight

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Godspeed hopefully we're not throwing lol

[Porscha]

Sorry falcon if you just got lost in the sauce this game and poe'd cuz of it cuz same. Apparently

And no amount of work I put in will convince oscar otherwise

[Porscha]

Godspeed hopefully we're not throwing lol

Zzz

[Sloonei]

Day 8 Result

Local resident Arthur Webley was out trimming hedgerows this evening when a tree fell and crushed him to death. Mr. Webley will be fondly remembered by all who ever spoke to him around the village. Sandford mourns yet another tragic accident befallen one of our fine citizens.



falcon45ca has been eliminated. He was Arthur Webley, Vanilla Town.

It is Night 8. You have 24 hours to submit your night actions.

[Sloonei]

Night 8

The Living Statue, whose unwanted commotion wreaked havoc on the quiet village of Sandford, has at last been dealt with. Residents can rest easy knowing that this menace will no longer disturb them as they go about their blissful lives.



obscurity has been killed. He was the Living Statue, Vanilla Town.

It is Day 9. You have 48 hours to eliminate somebody.

Additionally, if a majority of people (3 out of 4) prefer to eliminate nobody today, we may end this phase early, as soon as a majority is reached. Note that this option only applies for the No Elimination option ("No one" in the poll).

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Ah well, was worth a try getting the track in play

We're not sleeping today cause we have a clear

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm gonna read isos tomorrow and see how I feel

@Creature am I still in play for you or ? FMPOV this day should be us deciding whether its porscha or neon but i don't remember if you're accepting me as clear or not

[Creature]

I'm gonna read isos tomorrow and see how I feel

@Creature am I still in play for you or ? FMPOV this day should be us deciding whether its porscha or neon but i don't remember if you're accepting me as clear or not

Yeah I'm still worried you could be a wolf because you ended up wolfsiding in most final VCs.

[Creature]

I'm gonna read isos tomorrow and see how I feel

@Creature am I still in play for you or ? FMPOV this day should be us deciding whether its porscha or neon but i don't remember if you're accepting me as clear or not

Yeah I'm still worried you could be a wolf because you ended up wolfsiding in most final VCs.

It seems you've wolfsided in all final day VCs but D2 and D3. D2 Sabiplz was pretty much caught and D3 the Lilypetal wagon was already unstoppable.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It wasn't unstoppable when I was on it, and if you look at the vc the day jack died its actually clearing for me

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It wasn't unstoppable when I was on it, and if you look at the vc the day jack died its actually clearing for me

*when I was on jack

[Porscha]

I really can't believe oscar died and creature didnt

[Creature]

Is it bad logic to believe wolf!Porscha wouldn't make this kill? I feel like wolf!Porscha would always just nightkill me who is the clear instead of big braining this. Also nightkilling obscurity would pretty much make her look bad.

[Porscha]

so. small epiphany here

if neon and I are the only 2 without roles

falcon... falcon was perhaps onto something. it wasn't that wilgy and neon had 1 wolf between them. it had 2. that's the reason neon never dies pushing wilgy. hellbus

[Porscha]

bout 25 minutes to go:

anne - 3 - Voters: Creature, Porscha, DrWilgy
DrWilgy - 4 - Voters: anne, Neon, Seanzie, Schiavetto
Falcon45ca - 1 - obscurity
NANOOK - 3 - Voters: Ruri, pyxxy, falcon45ca
Schiavetto - 1 - Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Feels like there's a Maf amongst the lead wagons for sure w/ that vote spread
[/quote]

what if?

[Porscha]

bout 25 minutes to go:

anne - 3 - Voters: Creature, Porscha, DrWilgy
DrWilgy - 4 - Voters: anne, Neon, Seanzie, Schiavetto
Falcon45ca - 1 - obscurity
NANOOK - 3 - Voters: Ruri, pyxxy, falcon45ca
Schiavetto - 1 - Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

what if?

ebwop formatting and updated kolorz

[Porscha]

I don't think Neon is mafia Wilgs

Ruri I go back and forth tinfoiling

I just don't find a team elsewhere. If Shia/Ruri? Maybe?

Idk Ruri without counter claim, plus the reaction to Nook gimmick.

Do you get towny vibes off Shia? Ruri?

this seems like a weird question for falcon to ask when wilgy is struggling to find a poe that makes sense to him after he has now decided I am town.

[Porscha]

wilgy never seriously pushes neon again btw ^

[Porscha]

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Oh are we actually going to kill Wilgy on this day?

Let's kill you first IMO

Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?



That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?



That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

Nah

Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?



That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

I... what?

This is actually awful lol.

It's not that bad. I know you've been pushing Wilgy, but you also had like 8 posts last RD. You'd think you'd want to do some solving.




And Wilgy leaves you alive? Why? You can't push his wagon if you're dead

:really: kind of a weak push onto neon's slot and gave her a little dose get voted for statically pushing wilgy.
falcon would you like to re-eval as to why wilgy would keep neon alive there now that he did in fact flip wolf?

i'll answer my own question here with the uh, the only clear answer is cuz neon is wolf partner

[Porscha]

Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wanted Neon to die. Pyxxy literally died going at Porscha why would you ignore that Wilgy?

This line of thinking completely ignores that Neon has been a loud voice against Wilgy...they parked and left the RD, why does Wilgy leave them alive?



Your whole premise here is negated by that fact

Neon has been calling for Wilgy to get lynched for some time, how come he's left her alive? She seems one of the more vocal ones as well

more pushing from falcon on the "BUT IF WILGY WAS WOLF NEON WOULD BE DEAD SO CHECKMATE ATHEISTS" that just seems like a partner defense

it literally was checkmate atheists. lmfao

[Porscha]

Falc, what's in your head re Neon vs me?

1 of you 2 is Maf

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

AND YET??

Oh don't act like my votes don't change.



And if 1 of the 2 is Maf, well then there's still another Maf out there

yeah ruri or wilgy are maf

*votes porscha umprompted*

"oh dont act like my votes don't change"

>ends up voting me by eod instead of wilgy

My POE was very clearly defined, and frankly I'm pretty sure I was voting Maf at EOD

i'll bring this back up again because falcons' decision making just doesnt make sense to me from town pov, and his response isn't really satisfactory for me either. when I asked him how his actions made sense, he responds with an answer of "you were clearly my poe and I think you're maf still, so it all makes sense" but no not really, since you specifically had a red check between wilgy and neon, which logically I believe most townies would solve between instead of the random outlier, and I believe falcon only took this route as he showed interest in a wilgy/porscha wolf world earlier when it was proposed by - not himelf - but oscar:

Neon isn't around for much of last RD, and they come outta the gates to push Wilgy?



That's an easy wagon for a wolf to push right now, easy with a capital E

This is what I thought the other day with what Porcha did but I think Wilgy is just outed now

I wouldn't be super shocked if Porscha progression was W/W

To be fair, I also can see Porscha/Wilgy team

Btw Wilgy did try to self pres I literally saw it like a minute before EOD he only switched when it was clear Schia was dying lol.

Town self-pres too.





Tho I'm very OK w/ Wilgy & Porscha flipping.




What if we wagon them both?


[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

both maf have to know wilgy is always dying first before the other. the last wolf has to have a long-con believable poe, with likely one specific person they'd like to try to ML today - and I believe I was the scapegoat for all of it, especially when I've had people's poe's breathing down my neck all game. I don't have a PR, nook didn't touch me, I didn't do much to flip sabi or jack, protected wilgy. almost everyone has more to their vote record and general read to lead them out of poe still. And keeping me alive to defend wilgy until wilgy was gonna go over for sure works, but after the wilgy flip I'm likely the easiest ML... except maybe for falcon.

so I think I will conclude with this: that the wagons should only be between me and falcon today as we both have the least going for us in terms of what makes us defensible townies. additionally, there has been enough suspicion around my slot that even if falcon doesn't go over today, it's probably best to remove me from poe's so the remaining players can make a better informed decision on where to go next.

thanks for reading and don't say I never did anything for ya

neon just busses wilgy b/c of this line of thought imo