The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:21 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm @DrWilgy Finished reading up on your SVS case. Every thing you pointed to happened day one. What has she done since that you can point to except argue with you about day 1?
Look I'm sorry but Quin was wrong about 2/3 of his baddie team. Why? Idk I was wrong about my day one read of Rondo. Don't feel bad. Move on. Or add something new to your case. BTW SVS wasn't the only one sucked into your horrible ploy inre: falcon. He was elimmed bc of you imo.

I'm not done with SVS yet, just splitting it into chunks, but alas, I'll be treated like I'm death tunneling for doing so.

Hell if you read what I actually put down about day one you'd see that there's an actual argument for T SVS to be unsure about the W v F d1 foolery. Like it's not even a case, just review that's like 1/4th of the way done.

Falcon was elimmed because of a poor response he did. He chose to not assess me, knee jerk react, then afk and went over because of it. Don't blame me for moving the game out of fluff fest 2022.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm @DrWilgy Finished reading up on your SVS case. Every thing you pointed to happened day one. What has she done since that you can point to except argue with you about day 1?
Look I'm sorry but Quin was wrong about 2/3 of his baddie team. Why? Idk I was wrong about my day one read of Rondo. Don't feel bad. Move on. Or add something new to your case. BTW SVS wasn't the only one sucked into your horrible ploy inre: falcon. He was elimmed bc of you imo.

well reasonably you can say that svs voted wrong yesterday

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 6:46 pm @TonyStarkPrime your read on me I believe was prior to discussion of role claiming. Why was I a slight tr?

I would say, the post that has me thinking that you have wolf intent is also the post below:

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:23 pm God I'll do it tomorrow

Like, I don't see anything indicating you read and this "did it tomorrow" the post was only made to appeal to the crowd.

reasons

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:21 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm @DrWilgy Finished reading up on your SVS case. Every thing you pointed to happened day one. What has she done since that you can point to except argue with you about day 1?
Look I'm sorry but Quin was wrong about 2/3 of his baddie team. Why? Idk I was wrong about my day one read of Rondo. Don't feel bad. Move on. Or add something new to your case. BTW SVS wasn't the only one sucked into your horrible ploy inre: falcon. He was elimmed bc of you imo.

I'm not done with SVS yet, just splitting it into chunks, but alas, I'll be treated like I'm death tunneling for doing so.

Hell if you read what I actually put down about day one you'd see that there's an actual argument for T SVS to be unsure about the W v F d1 foolery. Like it's not even a case, just review that's like 1/4th of the way done.

Falcon was elimmed because of a poor response he did. He chose to not assess me, knee jerk react, then afk and went over because of it. Don't blame me for moving the game out of fluff fest 2022.

you know better than this. If you were like. A person who had never played with Falcon, I'd give you the pass on it. But you don't get that pass cause you know better and you should have some idea on falcon reading. This isn't 2012 and you're not from EpicMafia.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:27 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:21 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:18 pm @DrWilgy Finished reading up on your SVS case. Every thing you pointed to happened day one. What has she done since that you can point to except argue with you about day 1?
Look I'm sorry but Quin was wrong about 2/3 of his baddie team. Why? Idk I was wrong about my day one read of Rondo. Don't feel bad. Move on. Or add something new to your case. BTW SVS wasn't the only one sucked into your horrible ploy inre: falcon. He was elimmed bc of you imo.

I'm not done with SVS yet, just splitting it into chunks, but alas, I'll be treated like I'm death tunneling for doing so.

Hell if you read what I actually put down about day one you'd see that there's an actual argument for T SVS to be unsure about the W v F d1 foolery. Like it's not even a case, just review that's like 1/4th of the way done.

Falcon was elimmed because of a poor response he did. He chose to not assess me, knee jerk react, then afk and went over because of it. Don't blame me for moving the game out of fluff fest 2022.

you know better than this. If you were like. A person who had never played with Falcon, I'd give you the pass on it. But you don't get that pass cause you know better and you should have some idea on falcon reading. This isn't 2012 and you're not from EpicMafia.

Aye, I know to not let a player remain so polarized that they can pull an easy gotcha on you.

My Falcon read was wrong, but I don't think it was wrong for bad reasons.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:27 pm why do you care why I townread you on day 1/2

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:29 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:27 pm why do you care why I townread you on day 1/2

Because its like one of 4 reads you provided and it was the most wishy washy one?

Should I have to ask you what you think on each player?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:27 am DrWilgy
Epignosis
fingersplints
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Roxy
Kate
sig (sub for sabie12)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lemonfairy
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TonyStarkPrime
Marmot
Neon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RondoDimBuckle

No colors, just block's o'text. Fairly in order.

I would be pretty shocked if Wilgy, Epi or Splints were bad.
I would not be shocked, but somewhat surprised if Roxy was bad, her game here is totally different than LGM. Kate as well, while it's WIFOM, I don't know that I think she'd set up fake suspish on Dennis, or NK him, especially after he pushed back. I felt pretty good about Sabie. She didn't seem to be following anyone and had her own opinions, so a good look for sig to roll ino, imo.

I put Lemonfairy in her own group. She has mostly just breezed in voted and left, hasn't expressed many opinions. Gave one long post mostly town vibereads (it's a big post, I'll spoiler it). She hasn't really engaged. Pretty much NAI, I have no read on her. She has been voting for me, but I don't know why. The PoE group I have reasons to think could go either way. Lemonfairy I really have no read at all.

Spoiler: show

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:24 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:15 am Welcome to my scum pile

[VOTE: Lemon] aubergine

why aubergine?

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:07 am i am back and i am town this time

*squints*
idk, not feeling this

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:18 am Is it bad if that makes me want to vote you lol

the lol and the fact that it's a question makes this feel more friendly than it needs to be
probably not super AI though

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:22 am you should vote mafia not town

this post actually makes me feel a bit better about the previous one but still easily made as either alignment tbh

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:28 am so now i pose the question, even if i was a wolf, do you think you could have successfully caught me based off my current actions

ok, it feels like they're treating each other as town now
not w/w

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 4:52 am
What current actions in the thread are most likely to catch a wolf?

I don’t really like the dismissive “you were just wrong so have to be here” to a small day 1 suspicion comment. The thread has been mostly OT, someone has to get things rolling.

kinda like this
viberead town

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:42 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 5:28 am
I've caught others by doing this.

you're bad

probably also >rand town

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:45 am Thanks. That's the fastest anyone has told me I'm bad before.

But am I bad as in a shit player. Or bad as in mafia?

One of these is true.

Neon interpreting bad as skill-related rather than alignment is towny imo

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:50 am Ha ha I win, Rondo said I was bad on page one, and I’m pretty sure it was page one in LGM when Sean did, too.

I’m home pretty much all weekend, so I’ll have plenty of time to stay caught up.

On this list, Lemonfairy is new to me, I played with TSP a few time, but I don’t recall his game well, so he might as well be.

very neutral post, doesn't swing me either way

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:58 am do you think using tactics and strategy is ai for me?

lucy feels very self-focused this game
idk what to make of it yet

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:05 am I’ve played games with40 and 50 people, and never kept a spreadsheet

omg imagine making a spreadsheet for 40/50 people
I can barely bother to make those with 7 people

lucy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:10 am i also wasn't lying about my memory, i've never taken notes in a single class, nor do i need spreadsheets to track reads, it's all easily retained.

-_- opposite of me
everything gets deleted after a while

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:57 am Alright, who's Maf? Still Marmot?
[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

I'm reading these as though they're entrance posts but this just reminded me that there was a N0 that I didn't bother to read
uhhh whatever ig, I'll just make do

also, is aubergine an inside joke or a reference to something?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:03 amMarmot

why though
but post is fine ig

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:07 am @Neon Not sure yet but eye was drawn somewhere D 0 but I'm giving it a chance since it was only D 0. So no name mentioning for yet. How about you?

ehhh ok this can be vibe town too

I've already forgotten the other people I gave vibe townreads to

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:11 am I don't have many thoughts. I think Lucy is town... so like can't wait for round 2 of Neon vs everyone lol

why

ok, I'm going to end this one here b/c it's getting long

My PoE group is not really in any order, I tried ordering it but can't. Tony comes in, votes, and says nothing about why. He literally said (over two posts) "Everyone vote for Kate. I saw a kate post I thought was wolfy." OK, lol. The only time he ever made anything other than a one line post was when Roxy asked him to post suspects and he said, "i got news for ya, I'm not getting eliminated and if I do it's town's fault". She never said anything about suspecting him so not sure where that came from. This may be SOP for him, I know I played with him, but don't recall if this is the norm for him, so PoE.

Marmot and Neon, I have more complex thoughts on. Marmot's doing a lot of reads and is prompting a lot of discussion, trying to coax opinions out of people which is a good look. But it bothers me alot that he continued to imply my wordiness was AI when it absolutely is not, and I even pointed it out to him from another game where I was civ that it came up in discussion. I have very little conversational filter, so i over explain to soften things. It's something I do irl, it's a compensation mechanism. I posted the info from the other game, tagged him in it, and he did not respond, but still repeated the "too wordy" thing. When he put up his rainbow, he kinda wishy washy acknowledged it, but gave no other reason for reads. Perhaps I am just annoyed at him, because other than this I mostly townread him.

Marmot said in his rainbow list: S~V~S - I've talked about SVS at length already. She has been over-explainy, to which she has also explained this is normal for her (it's been so long since we've played together, I don't remember your exact playstyle), but at times to me it doesn't feel like it accomplishes very much. I would put her lower, but since this does appear to be the norm for her, I'm putting a little less emphasis on that particular style of posting in my read on her.

And Neon is nothing like her last game. Even if i agreed with some of her conclusions there, she was posting data, making reads. She came out like an avenging angel when we elimmed a bad Lucy in LGM, which townlocked her for me. But she made sad faces when we did it here to a Lucy who actually flipped town, but didn't really try and stop it. She could just be less interested, or she could be bad. I am leaning less interested, but I am not actively town reading her as i did in LGM, which is my only experience of her. Also her trying to talk Quin out of divulging his reads during the night, then he was NKed; things that make you go

Rondo I have talked about at somewhat in the Falcon discussion, and the aftermath. Rondo came in, make a fake list and seems to be sticking to it for no reason he has expressed to the point of making fake red checks in a game with no cops . And then anyone who doubts him either should "know his game" or becomes a wolf themselves. I got the impression it was becasue I voted for Falcon, but he seems a little over traumatized by this to the point that I am not sure if it is real or not. He's making "Civvies suck" type posts, but if he's town, he isn't helping with what mostly comes across as rage posting.

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:50 pm I think Marmot vs SVS is both town

There's no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
There's no knowing where we're rowing
Or which way the river's flowing

Yes, the danger must be growing
For the rowers keep on rowing
And they're certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:38 am Yay! Baddies!!! What a super fun game and a huge thanks to my teammates for playing it old school and saving my ass!

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:42 am So so so sorry Dennis!

It hurt me more than it hurt you

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:43 am

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:42 am So so so sorry Dennis!

It hurt me more than it hurt you

How does this constitute the use of the flushed emoji, out of curiosity?

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:43 am

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:42 am So so so sorry Dennis!

It hurt me more than it hurt you

How does this constitute the use of the flushed emoji, out of curiosity?

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:46 am SVS and Epi had me completely convinced they were good until I died ngl

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:07 pm so if I order them, I'll get my readlist

town
fingersplints
Marmot
Neon
Roxy

townlean
sig
Rondo
Tony

POE/scum
SVS
Epignosis
Kate
DrWilgy

Mongoose wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:55 am I want to make sure @Lemonfairy gets her due here -- 3/4 baddies in her spread! I was very impressed.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 24, 2022 3:07 pm so if I order them, I'll get my readlist

town
fingersplints
Marmot
Neon
Roxy

townlean
sig
Rondo
Tony

POE/scum
SVS
Epignosis
Kate
DrWilgy

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:59 am Told you all game was easy

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:02 am well the good news is we would have won if epi didn't decide to be an annoying little non-town player

Kate wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:01 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:59 am Told you all game was easy

Yeah. Easy.

Good follow through lol

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:07 am So do we get everyones role now or are people left to reveal their roles