[Mafia Win] Tongue-Tied Mafia

[Lemonfairy]

@Lemonfairy if you’re still around, who you thinking right now

I am weirdly here
looks like I will make EOD after all

I think I'd still vote Roxy tbh
Neon's pushback after Roxy started pushing her gave town Neon vibes

imo her posts also make a lot more sense than Roxy's, whose POV I am struggling to understand

[Lemonfairy]

giving Dennis a slight side-eye to for that vote on Neon tbh

[Scotty]

I’ve been doing some digging into Neon’s past few games.
Felt, Lawyers, Holes.

She feels more like Holes in this game. Which was her mafia game.

But there’s some doubts I have. Firstly, this is a low post cap game. I’m sure even town Neon would have a hard time flourishing, so using these as guideposts isn’t the best comparison.

In Holes she had a bit more of a shruggy stance with one liner posts- less malleable gif posting and less solving.
She has a good amount of gif posting here, and her solving is not as strong as her showings as the town Neon I see in those games. It’s a tough call.

Dennis voting for Neon here is freeing. I think Dennis is town

but she really only posted gif's in response to Kate's challenge against her with gifs.

It lasted not even all of Day 1 and there has been zero gif posts by Neon since then.

Her gif posting stooped dead when Kate was Nk'ed.

Nice try at a possible save there Scotty now get off that fence and vote

If you think I’m trying to coordinate a save, you aren’t paying attention.

Conversely, I see in your iso a slight difference in tone in this game when compared to felt. You seem to be more verbose and not as prickly in that game where you were mafia compared to this one

wtf does calling me prickly mean?

Using a ton of AtE. I think that’s a fair assessment today

[Lemonfairy]

someone explain what is happening with the falcon/splits wagons lol

[Roxy]

Roxy sure seems like she wants it more.
Which tells me either the game is solved with her death or she is vehemently trying to be pro town

If I was bad I would be posting youtubes by now. You act like you have never played with me before.

Get off the fence.

[Scotty]

I needed to establish a town core today. I feel most strongly with Dennis and lemon. If they’re snowing me, gg

I think they’re still both town, just one’s playing patty cake and the other is trying to play red rover

[Lemonfairy]

this team is plausible

it's not plausible lol

[Roxy]

I’ve been doing some digging into Neon’s past few games.
Felt, Lawyers, Holes.

She feels more like Holes in this game. Which was her mafia game.

But there’s some doubts I have. Firstly, this is a low post cap game. I’m sure even town Neon would have a hard time flourishing, so using these as guideposts isn’t the best comparison.

In Holes she had a bit more of a shruggy stance with one liner posts- less malleable gif posting and less solving.
She has a good amount of gif posting here, and her solving is not as strong as her showings as the town Neon I see in those games. It’s a tough call.

Dennis voting for Neon here is freeing. I think Dennis is town

but she really only posted gif's in response to Kate's challenge against her with gifs.

It lasted not even all of Day 1 and there has been zero gif posts by Neon since then.

Her gif posting stooped dead when Kate was Nk'ed.

Nice try at a possible save there Scotty now get off that fence and vote

If you think I’m trying to coordinate a save, you aren’t paying attention.

Conversely, I see in your iso a slight difference in tone in this game when compared to felt. You seem to be more verbose and not as prickly in that game where you were mafia compared to this one

wtf does calling me prickly mean?

Using a ton of AtE. I think that’s a fair assessment today

where is the AtE? Point it out. BC I am deffo not doing that.

[Scotty]

Roxy sure seems like she wants it more.
Which tells me either the game is solved with her death or she is vehemently trying to be pro town

If I was bad I would be posting youtubes by now. You act like you have never played with me before.

Get off the fence.

I don’t remember metas. I didn’t even remember that Neon was bad in Holes mafia. My memory is notoriously bad for those things.

[Lemonfairy]

just one’s playing patty cake and the other is trying to play red rover

which is which lol

[Roxy]

someone explain what is happening with the falcon/splits wagons lol

are you even playing this game?

lol

[fingersplints]

@fingersplints day ends in less than 2 hours.
We could
Use
Your
Input

Kid still crazy. who do you want my insight to? I’ll try to respond ASAP

Can you look into neon? It’s probably neon or Roxy. Who would you vote?

I’m really torn about this but I think it’s Rox. This interaction:

I betcha Kate is rolling around in her grave with an obvious read on you. Sucks that she was killed.

Though that is one of the big reasons I figured she was killed in the first place

wow just wow


she did leave a read on me - town lean

look it up.

Or you can just take Neon's word for it

I would love to still look at Neon a little more. If someone can please summarise the case. I’d love to compare more. This is crunch time

[Scotty]

I’ve been doing some digging into Neon’s past few games.
Felt, Lawyers, Holes.

She feels more like Holes in this game. Which was her mafia game.

But there’s some doubts I have. Firstly, this is a low post cap game. I’m sure even town Neon would have a hard time flourishing, so using these as guideposts isn’t the best comparison.

In Holes she had a bit more of a shruggy stance with one liner posts- less malleable gif posting and less solving.
She has a good amount of gif posting here, and her solving is not as strong as her showings as the town Neon I see in those games. It’s a tough call.

Dennis voting for Neon here is freeing. I think Dennis is town

but she really only posted gif's in response to Kate's challenge against her with gifs.

It lasted not even all of Day 1 and there has been zero gif posts by Neon since then.

Her gif posting stooped dead when Kate was Nk'ed.

Nice try at a possible save there Scotty now get off that fence and vote

If you think I’m trying to coordinate a save, you aren’t paying attention.

Conversely, I see in your iso a slight difference in tone in this game when compared to felt. You seem to be more verbose and not as prickly in that game where you were mafia compared to this one

wtf does calling me prickly mean?

Using a ton of AtE. I think that’s a fair assessment today

where is the AtE? Point it out. BC I am deffo not doing that.

anyway, it’s a point in your favor

[Lemonfairy]

Scotty, if you live past tonight, I will suddenly paranoia-scumread you and build my next mafia team around you while ignoring all of my previous reads

[Roxy]

just one’s playing patty cake and the other is trying to play red rover

which is which lol

At least Dennis is trying to solve whereas lemon just does not gaf.

[Lemonfairy]

someone explain what is happening with the falcon/splits wagons lol

are you even playing this game?

lol

I was busy :c

what's your case on Neon?

[Roxy]

@Scotty if you think I was joking about where is my AtE I wasn't.

I really mean for you to point it out.

[Scotty]

@fingersplints day ends in less than 2 hours.
We could
Use
Your
Input

Kid still crazy. who do you want my insight to? I’ll try to respond ASAP

Can you look into neon? It’s probably neon or Roxy. Who would you vote?

I’m really torn about this but I think it’s Rox. This interaction:

I betcha Kate is rolling around in her grave with an obvious read on you. Sucks that she was killed.

Though that is one of the big reasons I figured she was killed in the first place

wow just wow


she did leave a read on me - town lean

look it up.

Or you can just take Neon's word for it

I would love to still look at Neon a little more. If someone can please summarise the case. I’d love to compare more. This is crunch time

Neon isn’t as damning, personally. Which is why this is so hard.

She has voted off wagon for the 2nd wagon both days.
Has pushed for Roxy on day 2 with no more than a “let’s start here” and has kept the momentum into today for Roxy.
Hasn’t done much solving.
Though Roxy did respond to the votes and Neon had a confbias of ‘this is not how town responds to this pressure’ and has all but checked out today.

[Lemonfairy]

just one’s playing patty cake and the other is trying to play red rover

which is which lol

At least Dennis is trying to solve whereas lemon just does not gaf.

I don't appreciate the shade thrown on me

I am here and having fun

[Dennis]

MMph really not loving having a tie

[Scotty]

Scotty, if you live past tonight, I will suddenly paranoia-scumread you and build my next mafia team around you while ignoring all of my previous reads

I’m getting nervous there won’t be a tonite

I should be killed tho if we do make it there. It’s just optimal

[Lemonfairy]

MMph really not loving having a tie

I will be voting Roxy dw

[Lemonfairy]

Scotty, if you live past tonight, I will suddenly paranoia-scumread you and build my next mafia team around you while ignoring all of my previous reads

I’m getting nervous there won’t be a tonite

why?

I thought Roxy's reaction felt kind of outing
someone more familiar with Roxy's meta chime in and tell me if they usually react like this as town when being pushed or not

[Dennis]

OH I HAD TS ON ANOTHER TAB AND WAS AT 800 and (i'm done yelling now) so the number at the top that shows the new posts wasn't updating hello everyone

[Scotty]

@Scotty if you think I was joking about where is my AtE I wasn't.

I really mean for you to point it out.

I am really getting tired of coming here time after time just to say I am town. Everyone seems to be after an easy miselim and thats ok if you just want to get the game over with, ya know, without actually trying to solve.




Neon's constant push on me without bothering to give real reasons or responses shows me she just does not gaf about the towns game state. If she was town she would look at my posts and reevaluate as she has been wrong about me in literally every game we have played together. You have very little content past your initial tunneling of Dennis then switched to me I guess believing I'll be easier to push bc I post less. You bad Neon.


I am disappointed in Scotty as he hosted me and should completely understand my game style but alas he can't look past Neon's imv case against me.

I will make a post about suspicions but quite frankly does it really fucking matter as you all claim I have no content but I guess Porscha has content bc she has more posts but zero content but ok.

I have tons of work but I'll be back asp.

Here we have

AtE

AtE

Incorrect interpretations of my play

AtE

And attacks on my ability to read Roxy that aren't even really thar true.

Very towny reentry.

Here we have



AtE
AtE

Incorrect interpretations of my play




AtE

And attacks Neon's ability to read me which is ABSOLUTELY true. She cannot! Look it up!

Not a very towny post trying determine if what she thinks is actually true. She has NOT EVEN TRIED to once say "hey I could be wrong let me re-think this'

This is why she is bad. Her partners will be fs and lemon. HK/Dennis last choice.

splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate

ofc neither is Scotty or most of the thread how sad the wolves have lead every elim so far and the town is just like ok no prob you can win bc we won't bother trying.

I'll be easy bc I have an actual life and cannot hang on the computer all day and must work and spend time with people who matter in my life. I am an In the Mud veggie. LHF. Easy pickings.

Every fucking time.

Even with people who hosted me AND played with me are refusing to read me properly - you know properly - like reading my actual posts and suspicions.

I will never change wg=hy should I none of you do.

]ot]lol now it'll be she is spicy, she is ate, she is yadda yadda yadda stfu

DO NOT READ EMOTIONS into my posts.

I am giggling and having fun always.

I have no need to appeal to anyone's emotions as I dgaf about them as this is a game and if you are so invested that you might cry or be insulted back slowly out of the thread and cry into your pillow instead bc I am playing a game and having a bit of fun.[/ot]

[Scotty]

Scotty, if you live past tonight, I will suddenly paranoia-scumread you and build my next mafia team around you while ignoring all of my previous reads

I’m getting nervous there won’t be a tonite

why?

I thought Roxy's reaction felt kind of outing
someone more familiar with Roxy's meta chime in and tell me if they usually react like this as town when being pushed or not

I seem to remember Kate saying once that Roxy can be a bit more aggressive as town.

And from my perusal of felt, she seemed far more passive. This game there have been a lot of idgaf’s

[Lemonfairy]

This is why she is bad. Her partners will be fs and lemon. HK/Dennis last choice.

splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate

it's hard to believe these are real thoughts

[Dennis]

@fingersplints day ends in less than 2 hours.
We could
Use
Your
Input

Kid still crazy. who do you want my insight to? I’ll try to respond ASAP

Can you look into neon? It’s probably neon or Roxy. Who would you vote?

I’m really torn about this but I think it’s Rox. This interaction:

I betcha Kate is rolling around in her grave with an obvious read on you. Sucks that she was killed.

Though that is one of the big reasons I figured she was killed in the first place

wow just wow


she did leave a read on me - town lean

look it up.

Or you can just take Neon's word for it

I would love to still look at Neon a little more. If someone can please summarise the case. I’d love to compare more. This is crunch time

It was her handling of Roxy that has convinced me. I summarized it here

I’m going to do an exercise where I look at a world where neon is wolf and Roxy is town.

Neon voted for the second wagon of Dennis D1, which all but clears Dennis, since wolf wouldn’t lump in to their partner L-1 on the first yeet. This also makes lemonfairy look more compatible as a vanity wagon as Wilgy said. Splints would most likely be bad on the pyxxy wagon, as I’ve previously discussed in the duo of splints/Roxy.

So already that would be neon/splints/??? Maybe lemon

D2 had neon and lemon voting on the 2nd wagon of Roxy, with splints on Porscha, which could have been a save of a distant Neon. I’ll need to look more into how that wagon formed, but this team is plausible.

it's funny you look everywhere but her actual reasoning of voting for me, she is laying that on you and fairy btw.

See this is what I was thinking

Neon never outright said a thing about suspecting roxy from as far as I can remember. It was snapvote D2 and then when I ask it was "look at lemons posts". Then I ask earlier today and it was 1. Laugh at me 2. Imply that I'm stupid and not reading the thread and 3. Say she started the suspicion and people added on while also throwing on a pinch of OMGUS

But no you didn't. I don't care if other people agree with you, or what other people said I want YOUR reasoning. So, why did you vote Roxy at start of D2

It was just a sudden push, and then blaming others for the suspicion. And I think the plan was to kill roxy yesterday and push a fairy miselim today but roxy didn't end up going over

[Roxy]

someone explain what is happening with the falcon/splits wagons lol

are you even playing this game?

lol

I was busy :c

what's your case on Neon?

why bother?

you already said you would not be reading any of my posts because it was just me responding to suspicions. Which you said you would not read.

kinda hard to respond to a suspicion since you can't really say why.

I never really care about responses to suspicion tbh
I find it unhelpful most of the time

what I would like to know is probably who your top townreads are rn and why
and ig if there's been any change to your POE and reasons

plus if there's any relevant meta about you I should know that might have influenced my read, e.g., if there's anything you look for specifically, do you look for town first or scum first, etc.

pot meet kettle.
you accuse falcon of doing EXACTLY what you did to me - you funny

I don't think that's true
I don't think I have been dismissive of you but I haven't tried to interact with you and that's my problem

I think the questions I asked above are probably a good start
if you have anything you want to ask of me, feel free to

[Roxy]

This is why she is bad. Her partners will be fs and lemon. HK/Dennis last choice.

splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate

it's hard to believe these are real thoughts

especially as they are not even Scotty's reads.

[Lemonfairy]

I seem to remember Kate saying once that Roxy can be a bit more aggressive as town.

And from my perusal of felt, she seemed far more passive. This game there have been a lot of idgaf’s

aggressive as in aggressively solving?
or pushing people more

[Lemonfairy]

This is why she is bad. Her partners will be fs and lemon. HK/Dennis last choice.

splints bc believe it or not she has tried this game more than the last couple.
lemon bc they are not bothering to re-evaluate

it's hard to believe these are real thoughts

especially as they are not even Scotty's reads.

no, they're your reads
I must've quoted them wrong

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: neon] aubergine

[Lemonfairy]

I never really care about responses to suspicion tbh
I find it unhelpful most of the time

yes, I don't care about self-defense
it's useless

but I do want to understand your reads and where you're coming from b/c that's what will actually help me read you

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: fingers] aubergine

[Lemonfairy]

I am trying to engage with you but you're just throwing shade on me
that's not pro-town behavior

[Lemonfairy]

you also have not bothered to answer the questions I asked last time to try and engage with you

[Scotty]

someone explain what is happening with the falcon/splits wagons lol

are you even playing this game?

lol

I was busy :c

what's your case on Neon?

why bother?

you already said you would not be reading any of my posts because it was just me responding to suspicions. Which you said you would not read.

kinda hard to respond to a suspicion since you can't really say why.

I never really care about responses to suspicion tbh
I find it unhelpful most of the time

what I would like to know is probably who your top townreads are rn and why
and ig if there's been any change to your POE and reasons

plus if there's any relevant meta about you I should know that might have influenced my read, e.g., if there's anything you look for specifically, do you look for town first or scum first, etc.

pot meet kettle.
you accuse falcon of doing EXACTLY what you did to me - you funny

I don't think that's true
I don't think I have been dismissive of you but I haven't tried to interact with you and that's my problem

I think the questions I asked above are probably a good start
if you have anything you want to ask of me, feel free to

I think lemon is saying they’re not looking to read responses to suspicion. You had some moments today where you have been proactive in looking at other people, but outright defending yourself is what I think the bolded is talking about

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: fingers] aubergine

falcon, what are you doing?
pls explain thoughts

[fingersplints]

[VOTE: fingers] aubergine

All over the place falcon.I don’t want the mafia to manipulate this vote
Be careful

[Lemonfairy]

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

moving here

[Roxy]

I disaggre but agrre to a bit off it. Mostly I am trying to save the town from making a massive mistake.

[Lemonfairy]

@Dennis if you could get off Neon pls
or idk talk to me

[Roxy]

you also have not bothered to answer the questions I asked last time to try and engage with you

it was your response to me last time, I feel like why bother?

[Roxy]

The save for Neon is happening.

[Roxy]

splints I am disappoint

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Hollowkat] aubergine

[Lemonfairy]

I disaggre but agrre to a bit off it. Mostly I am trying to save the town from making a massive mistake.

it will still be a massive mistake if you are town and we misexe someone else who is also town
I find it hard to understand why you're so sure Neon is mafia

[Scotty]

[VOTE: fingers] aubergine

All over the place falcon.I don’t want the mafia to manipulate this vote
Be careful

Tell me more about neon

[Dennis]

@Dennis if you could get off Neon pls
or idk talk to me

I'm more confident neon is the hit than roxy

A town does not blindly push a low poster and they OMGUS anyone who questions. Roxy got pissed because this keeps happening where wolves push her easy slot

I can't see past this. Maybe I am confbiased but it's just the most obvious answer to me