The Syndicate

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:54 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:51 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:47 pm @Kate what is your read on me?

I personally think of you as a Medium Rare Steak Dinner with a side of Fondant Potatoes

It would seem that I am absolutely not what I eat.

If wolves eat civs, does that make wolves civs?

It's too late for your mental gymnastics!

But I just woke uuuuuuuup

Definitive proof that Kate is A WOLF.

I used to be scared as shit to post, as either alignment. Once I got passed that and decided it's just a game,, I got a lot better and had a lot more fun.

I'm always scared to post

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:54 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:52 pm You did a chart about me with an analysis of posts per day.

Oh I see. Sure that can be called "stats". It's only a small piece of a much bigger puzzle though. If anyone ever posts an equation into the game thread and says "vote Kate! The equation says vote Kate!", I will agree that it is not sound strategy.

I like you. Your like the Ying to my yang or summat.

I like you too, Kate. And I value intuition as a tool. Everyone has a role to play.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:56 pm Definitive proof that Kate is A WOLF.

In one game I was pi!

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:58 pm In one game I was pi!

I hope your vote was worth 3.1415926535897932384626433 votes.

Imagine where society will be in five years if Quin is able to clear himself tonight.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:00 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:58 pm In one game I was pi!

I hope your vote was worth 3.1415926535897932384626433 votes.

It always is

Pie is delicious.

So much better than cake.

Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:19 pm Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

Worse than both

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:19 pm Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

Worse than both

Can't they all live in peace

I know only violence.

This is exactly why you are a steak dinner with fancy pants potatoes

Speaking of food. Can someone get me some more enoki. The Asian market is too far away...

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:19 pm Is cheesecake a pie or cake?

Not pie. I suppose it's cake, but in a class if it's own.

Next person to post an honest read that I haven't already seen gets a cookie.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:02 pm Imagine where society will be in five years if Quin is able to clear himself tonight.

Do it yourself, coward.

I'm seven pages behind and today was not a good day.

I'll try to read though and see what I missed.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:17 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:02 pm Imagine where society will be in five years if Quin is able to clear himself tonight.

Do it yourself, coward.

I have failed The Search for Quin.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:20 pm I'm seven pages behind and today was not a good day.

I'll try to read though and see what I missed.

I'm sorry my man. I hope things get better.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am I think I understand how Epignosis is playing so far, and if so that's a good thing for him. I don't want to expand on that yet.

No need to. I think I get it.

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:25 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:20 pm I'm seven pages behind and today was not a good day.

I'll try to read though and see what I missed.

I'm sorry my man. I hope things get better.

Thanks- me too.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:14 am If the following people could provide link representative games of the listed alignments like JJJ did earlier then I'd appreciate it greatly:

Uh...Turtles?

viewtopic.php?t=2535

I don't know if that will help you, but since you asked.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Why Quin?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:17 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:13 am The contrary view for Abigail is that she is not engaged or energized in this thread, and that's a stark difference to recent town games. I don't recall seeing her play as mafia and would need to snoop around to determine how meaningful that is.

This is indeed wolf indicative for me.

But must be compared with the general unease I feel about myself and my play right now

I don't have any knowledge regarding how you feel about yourself and your play right now. It isn't something I can factor into my view of you (and this goes for anybody else). I can only go by what's in the thread.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:43 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Why Quin?

Nobody knew where you were.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:10 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:54 am I do have some gripes with Lime Coke.

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.

The last time I saw this post (the gist being "JJJ seems really town now, not like last game when he was mafia") it came from mafia WildZoo in one of the SDN games I linked for Wiml.

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:26 am Whom I THINK can be a wolf is...

....

....

THIS GUY!!!

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

falcon was my top town read as of this moment, and to drop this vote without engaging me (or anyone else town reading falcon) in some capacity is a bit off.

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.

Talk to me about Abigail pls

Mostly vibes while reading her posts.

Kinda farty

Spoiler: show

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:32 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:31 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:29 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:22 am JJJ probably town this game the dude feels way different from his mafia game solve wise.

Michelle I'm actually leaning town on a tad bit.

Annnnd can toss a townlean on Kate and Abigail.

Talk to me about Abigail pls

Mostly vibes while reading her posts.

She has good vibes as wolf too.

You're not wrong.

I'll see how the rest of the day plays out for her I'll tone the read down a bit.

Not sure LC cares about his Abigail read. This "tone it down" move came right after I said the same thing, but with barely any qualification or exploration of the topic.

[VOTE: Lime Coke] aubergine

I broadly agree with this post as well.

"Broadly?" Why this qualifier? What does it mean? What do you specifically disagree with in this post?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:45 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:43 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:28 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I can just say at this point:

I figured your blind vote for Quin and your move against Abigail were both more "throw something at the wall and see how people handle it" than concrete reads. You can tell me if that's true or not.

True for Quin. My current vote is "realer."

Why Quin?

Nobody knew where you were.

Ick.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:02 pm Ick.

What's ick?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:02 pm Ick.

What's ick?

Sounds like I wasn't the only one who hadn't posted. I wanted to know why he picked me.

I also don't think throwing votes on inactives is part of his civilian playbook to begin with. It's LHF.

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:39 am JJJ being a wolf is probably the worst possible gamestate for us rn so putting current and future effort into solving him is a good idea.

I'm buying JJJ as good here. There is a palpable sense of "Hot damn, I'm not mafia this time." Being bad is more work. It just is.

But should he fake a red check on you, I'll get him for ya.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:02 pm Ick.

What's ick?

Sounds like I wasn't the only one who hadn't posted. I wanted to know why he picked me.

I also don't think throwing votes on inactives is part of his civilian playbook to begin with. It's LHF.

Okay. I'll let Epi respond to that before I say more.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:03 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:55 pm @DrWilgy I know it sucks playing while ill, prioritise taking care of yourself first!!!

I'm happy just assuming you're a villager and giving you space for now tbh.

Aye, I'd just assume I'm an unknown though because I am.

I skimmed Falc and I agree this is T Falcon quite confidently. While I haven't seen LC's posts, I can believe T fal believes what he saw there and would be willing to sheep that so far.

Will nap and do some other thinking later.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

I think I'm at a point where I'm willing to just lock Falc into the town core until exelo

Town Core

JJJ
Falc
+4

Oh cool I'm a run away wagon

Wonder why

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:45 pm Wonder why

Would love to know how you feel about Kate.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:37 pm over-the-top

Oh...lol okay I'm memeing but fair ig

Good morning!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:27 pm I've become enlightened.

Team is:
Epi, Abigail
Epi, Kate
Wiml, Abigail
Wiml, Kate
Wilgy, Kate

Miss me wit dem @s

Why on earth you put yourself there?

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:27 pm I've become enlightened.

Team is:
Epi, Abigail
Epi, Kate
Wiml, Abigail
Wiml, Kate
Wilgy, Kate

Miss me wit dem @s

You know I'm very tempted to have you guys lynch me just so I could prove definitively that intuition is better than stats.

Don't be so tempted if you are a villager.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:45 pm POE something like:

Abigail OR Kate
Lime Coke
DrWilgy
Quin
Epignosis

That's still technically five names if two of them are mutually exclusive, but it implies that both should not be allowed to survive long together. If that dichotomy is viewed as legitimate by the field, then it's wise to resolve it sooner than later. I forget which one, but this was a grave mistake made in one of the champs games this year.

You're implying if Abigail flips town we have to flip Kate?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:50 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:47 pm @Kate what is your read on me?

I personally think of you as a Medium Rare Steak Dinner with a side of Fondant Potatoes

This sounds like town Wilgy. I always linked sense of humour with villageriness.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:56 pm Definitive proof that Kate is A WOLF.

O.o

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:57 pm I used to be scared as shit to post, as either alignment. Once I got passed that and decided it's just a game,, I got a lot better and had a lot more fun.

Once upon a time I didn't know what to post as well. :highfive:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:58 pm I'm always scared to post

I never noticed that...

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:27 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:30 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:27 am I think I understand how Epignosis is playing so far, and if so that's a good thing for him. I don't want to expand on that yet.

No need to. I think I get it.

I have ten posts, including the one I just made. I feel like I'm not playing.

I think I explained my view. In this setup both wolves have to be active.
Of course Jay had another thought and we didn't really mindmeld there.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:23 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 9:39 am JJJ being a wolf is probably the worst possible gamestate for us rn so putting current and future effort into solving him is a good idea.

I'm buying JJJ as good here. There is a palpable sense of "Hot damn, I'm not mafia this time." Being bad is more work. It just is.

But should he fake a red check on you, I'll get him for ya.

He almost did it when he said I have a different check with Wiml.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:47 pm You're implying if Abigail flips town we have to flip Kate?

No. I'm saying that if people believe the dichotomy between the two is valid, then they shouldn't be alive together in the final phases of the game -- folks would be forced to make a choice that'd be similar to guessing.

The dichotomy may also be invalid. I hope folks will discuss that.

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:41 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:38 pm

Spoiler: show

Roxy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:03 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:27 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:38 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:35 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:34 am

Understood, thanks. I'll stow my thoughts until falcon responds to this.

He'll probably post.






Like this.

Thanks for keeping your reads open Brad, this looks good for you

Can you explain, in detail that I am sure to understand, what you mean by this gif response to post that does concern you nor contain anything posted by you?

Well see I'm playing mafia so generally speaking wolfy behavior always concerns me. Including this.

Yah I am playing mafia too I do not need that.

What is wolfy behavior that you see in this post?
Who in the post you quoted is wolfy?
Why are they wolfy?

Don't need what exactly not sure what you don't need. I responded to something I didn't like.

It was the second pockety ass last towards anyone and everyone who expressed a scum read on me a towny so yeah that's kinda wolfy fmpov as a town who's getting pushed weakly for something I do literally every game on other sites with great success.

Now that's kinda whatever omgus I get it I get all defensive over people voting me early to but what I don't do is go around uwuing anyone who 180s their read for weak reasons

Wiml wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:03 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:11 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:40 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:58 pm To the best of my memory, this is the first time I have been a civilian in a Syndicate game since 2021. I am probably going to be my worstbest self and play at full throttle, as though this is the last chance I will ever have to solve a Mafia game.

Come friends, and let us make mincemeat of malevolent mountainous mafia.

Wait... this is the last game your ever playing?

I don't believe you interpreted JJJ's statement this way.

Fake entrance.

[VOTE: ☆Princess Abigail☆] aubergine

@Epignosis I'd appreciate if you could go into more detail about what exactly you think is fake about Abigail's post and why you think that it's wolf indicative from her.

I know Michelle has given reasons but yours seem different to hers.

It's less that and more... waves hands around.

I made an accusation. It was flimsy.

I got a picture of a child holding a gun in response. There's nothing to respond to. The recipient of my vote is not trying to figure out my alignment.

As for "wolf indicativeness?"

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 4:17 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 2:13 am The contrary view for Abigail is that she is not engaged or energized in this thread, and that's a stark difference to recent town games. I don't recall seeing her play as mafia and would need to snoop around to determine how meaningful that is.

This is indeed wolf indicative for me.

But must be compared with the general unease I feel about myself and my play right now

I sense a distinct lack of comfort, effort, and interest.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:21 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:05 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 11:02 pm Ick.

What's ick?

Sounds like I wasn't the only one who hadn't posted. I wanted to know why he picked me.

I also don't think throwing votes on inactives is part of his civilian playbook to begin with. It's LHF.

I looked at the poll. Clicked your name and submitted a vote. There wasn't anything more to it than that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:42 pm @☆Princess Abigail☆ would you be able to put together a full list of reads? Rainbow or tiers or something like that would be super. Explanations only if you feel like it.

I mean my list is just what I've posted

Your town or your not in my eyes

You and falcon are town and I'm like at least gonna fake confidence until exelo on both those reads.

I literally have not found anyone else this game. Wiml is probably the closest thing I have to another town lock at this point in catch up his posts are inquisitive and insightful in a way that's towny in mindset in my opinion. Their questions seem to come from a place of genuine solving and not from a place of pushing a scum agenda.

Now I do need to disclose that my dyslexia is particularly awful this game so I'm struggling to read and retain a lot of Wimls posts because they are often wordy but what I do manage to understand feels pure as snow to me...

Actually writing this post has made me pretty confident

TOWN CORE

JJJ
Wiml
Falc
+3

Falcon is like exclusively just based off the fact that there's a large consensus on him being town I am in agreement though less hoorah on it but others confidence is just kinda influencing my choice since it gels with my general read direction on falc

I think Epignosis is a civilian.