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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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112 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:46 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:40 pm
112 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:28 pm
112 wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:21 pm i recant my read on abigail btw.
What was this read?
that abigail could be SK
Why?
mostly i just bought your AtE

i'm also not in much condition to play for the night so tapping out
It was real so I suppose
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You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.

High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
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DrWilgy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:51 pm Leaves SK in 112, Brad, Lily, Falc.

Wolves in 112/(Doki/Nook)/LC

Gratz Abigail, you're the one true town core.
Did I ruin that by voting book Nook
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You are Zenon, Town 1-shot Desperado. You’re known for posting a lot (namely in anime gif form), playing a lot, and, most importantly, making snap decisions – particularly in the endgame. In a recent game, Wild West FM, you were taken to final 3 and immediately voted the last wolf, resulting in a LyLo that was strictly speaking over in four minutes and two posts. This game, we’re giving you the chance to accomplish a similar feat.

High-Risk High-Reward (Day 2+, 1-shot, Immediate): Spend 6 Snapvote Charges, post Fuck it we ball glgl in bold red text, and ping a player. (When you use this ability, you should also inform the hosts privately.) If they are Town, you will strongman die. Otherwise, you will strongman kill that player. This action resolves instantly.
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 9:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:51 pm Leaves SK in 112, Brad, Lily, Falc.

Wolves in 112/(Doki/Nook)/LC

Gratz Abigail, you're the one true town core.
Did I ruin that by voting book Nook
No.
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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[VOTE: 112] aubergine though.

The more I think about it the more I'm frightened by it. If It's a 3v2 next cycle and both Ws are singular in vote we can deal with that, if it is W 112 and we're wrong on Nook I'll cry.

Plus big nook wagon scary.
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DrWilgy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:11 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine though.

The more I think about it the more I'm frightened by it. If It's a 3v2 next cycle and both Ws are singular in vote we can deal with that, if it is W 112 and we're wrong on Nook I'll cry.

Plus big nook wagon scary.
hmmmmm
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DrWilgy wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:08 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:09 am Welp I misunderstood how psychic worked with timing, rip

Lily back to near confirmed town
Literally the only situation where Lily isn't town is if the team is me+Lily lmao
Yeah

Otherwise known as near confirmed town lol
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Is there a full action claim list yet?
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 7:49 pm We really think wolf Nook comes into today and the best play in their play book is

Lol I didn't do anything lol don't kill me lol and than like barely be active?
I mean mafiaNanook literally always uses his ability n1 lol, there's no reason for mafiaNanook to holster and/or use the factional instead
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Anyways apparently the mech says doki is outed via missing kill so that's good, kill them, kill 112 probably? And I might kill wilgy too, lowkey has high sk equity I think

Abby proooobably town, I've had some pings but honestly I haven't read her closely enough to tell if they're real or not

Taking lily as town

Brad is gonna die so don't care, actually think falcon might be townie but not sure if im underestimating his mafia play


Remember that if I die today and lily dies in the night wilgy is quasi-outed
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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[VOTE: 112] aubergine
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More accurately if I die today and lily dies tonight there's one between lc and wilgy nearly always, but you just kill wilgy there anyways I think. I suppose it depends on what Abby reports flips on but
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There are nightmare worlds with wilgy and lily and/or lily and Abby but I just don't want to think about that cause they're both losses no matter what I think
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:52 pm Anyways apparently the mech says doki is outed via missing kill so that's good, kill them, kill 112 probably? And I might kill wilgy too, lowkey has high sk equity I think

Abby proooobably town, I've had some pings but honestly I haven't read her closely enough to tell if they're real or not

Taking lily as town

Brad is gonna die so don't care, actually think falcon might be townie but not sure if im underestimating his mafia play


Remember that if I die today and lily dies in the night wilgy is quasi-outed
I don't think I have more in me tbh, take this as my legacy, hopefully it's good lol
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Oh if I survive the day I'm gonna target lily tonight
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Pretty obvious but
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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Lime Coke wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:14 pm @Lilypetal

I'm just gonna follow your vote at this rate.
Lime Coke wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:53 pm [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Eh

What changed your mind?
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:43 pm Is there a full action claim list yet?
DrWilgy wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:26 pm I got:
Lime Coke protected Seanzie
Nanook holstered
Falcon poisoned Lime Coke
Abigail neighborized Lily
Doki tracked me
I jailed Lily
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wolves are in lc/doki + 112

i think

gonna go with what i thought last night with nanook being lock town
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brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
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i do not townread doki
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Lilypetal wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:57 pm brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
If I'm a wolf I point blank stop posting for anti-spew and stop bothering because I have next to no thread pull.

Like my preferred yeet is actually Falcon for poisoning me but no one wants to do it so I'm just doing whatever.
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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:11 am
Lilypetal wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:57 pm brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
If I'm a wolf I point blank stop posting for anti-spew and stop bothering because I have next to no thread pull.

Like my preferred yeet is actually Falcon for poisoning me but no one wants to do it so I'm just doing whatever.
alright, i mean it doesnt matter too much tbh just thinking abt the game
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:52 pm Anyways apparently the mech says doki is outed via missing kill so that's good, kill them, kill 112 probably? And I might kill wilgy too, lowkey has high sk equity I think

Abby proooobably town, I've had some pings but honestly I haven't read her closely enough to tell if they're real or not

Taking lily as town

Brad is gonna die so don't care, actually think falcon might be townie but not sure if im underestimating his mafia play


Remember that if I die today and lily dies in the night wilgy is quasi-outed
I don't know why I'd be so over anyone else and I think I've seen it thrice now. Is it the classic "Wilgy is just sus?" Mindset?

How would I be outed in that situation unless your the SK? Protectives are useless per Brad's claim.
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:07 pm There are nightmare worlds with wilgy and lily and/or lily and Abby but I just don't want to think about that cause they're both losses no matter what I think
I agree
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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Meh, hard to say Nook has tmi after re skimming his input from last night.
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:11 am
Lilypetal wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:57 pm brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
If I'm a wolf I point blank stop posting for anti-spew and stop bothering because I have next to no thread pull.

Like my preferred yeet is actually Falcon for poisoning me but no one wants to do it so I'm just doing whatever.
I'm down if you can iterate how it's possible to have 3 kills AND W Falcon still gets the poison off.
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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:11 am
Lilypetal wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:57 pm brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
If I'm a wolf I point blank stop posting for anti-spew and stop bothering because I have next to no thread pull.

Like my preferred yeet is actually Falcon for poisoning me but no one wants to do it so I'm just doing whatever.

You have done nothing since last RD except bring up the same talking points....you haven't developed any reads, or really engaged anything outside "I can't believe I got poisoned by the poisoner after I tunneled the poisoner"




You are in anti-spew
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Assoc notes:

There's not much to go off of in Martin's ISO, but let's try prior to EoD at least.
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:39 pm Wilgy like (early energy I liked a fair bit)
Limecoke like (p#161 in particular)
There's not much to go off of on regarding the things Martin liked. I would however, be remiss to say that putting LC next to me feels almost a bad look for LC as I question does Martin not put a teammate in the likes?
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:39 pm falcon semi-like (I like the callout of the half-serious read but he walks back his SR after the defense of it, when I think the defense wasn't all that great)
Nanook semi-like (#202 kinda lines up where I was at that point, idk where the porscha thing came from they're just null imo)
seanzie semi-semi-like (I have the slightest feeling that #270 and #271 are towny since he sorta just implicitly/indirectly shrugs on himself but then calls it good strategy, a thing I don't think a wolf would do)
Eh, trying to extrapolate this I can still see a Nook/Martin team.
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:39 pm 112 semi-dislike (defense of half-serious read bugs me, calls it a natural thing that towns do instead of exemplifying that it is solvy or something to that effect. Doki doki makes valid point about #80 being kinda towny though)
nutella semi-dislike
The take on 112 is super hedgey and similar in the same fasion that I feel odd about the paring of myself and LC. the pairing of 112 and Nutella is bad.

Lime Coke > Martin

LC didn't mention Martin during d1 specifically. I'd be remiss to mention that this is was the same between W LC and W Roxy in Cool Bugs.

Nanook > Martin

Only interaction was as follows:
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
It's specific to her so not really that broad imo

Also have really high success rate at correctly tring her when she's town so

Tracker also not on the shortlist of roles to not kill d1 anyways
Focus was not Martin, nor was really anything said about Martin by Nook.

Skippin Lily

Skippin Falcon


Abigail > Martin
MartinG99 - I honestly don't remember much. I know Martin has made some big posts I read through but they didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy in my tum tum. They made me feel bored and lonely in my head. Scum lean.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 am Okies but like... why are we not just killing Martin though?
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☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 am Okies but like... why are we not just killing Martin though?
eh
Like... his content is just there... it's just kinda lacking... this is not the Martin I remember.

Is there a reason I shouldn't think this?
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:52 am The following effort shall hence be known as the one time Abigail bothered to open an ISO pls send help I hate this.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:40 am I suppose as courtesy I should note that I've been aware of the game but I've not really been paying attention to it since a massive posts haven't been made and I've been thoroughly enjoying Baldurs Gate 3 among other things.

I'll be here to give this game my focus in like 9-10 hours. Also, now checking on it, there doesn't seem to be a clearly defined posting requirement. Unless there's like a site-wide rule now or something about that.
As far as I can tell this is the only post that appears to mention busyness. I can't blame Martin for putting BG3 before mafia I mean like who wouldn't.

What I don't like is the promise of game focus that just kind of never happens. This iso is 9 posts at 3? hours to EoD and he's flying under the radar. No bueno.
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:39 pm Wilgy like (early energy I liked a fair bit)
Limecoke like (p#161 in particular)

falcon semi-like (I like the callout of the half-serious read but he walks back his SR after the defense of it, when I think the defense wasn't all that great)
Nanook semi-like (#202 kinda lines up where I was at that point, idk where the porscha thing came from they're just null imo)
seanzie semi-semi-like (I have the slightest feeling that #270 and #271 are towny since he sorta just implicitly/indirectly shrugs on himself but then calls it good strategy, a thing I don't think a wolf would do)

112 semi-dislike (defense of half-serious read bugs me, calls it a natural thing that towns do instead of exemplifying that it is solvy or something to that effect. Doki doki makes valid point about #80 being kinda towny though)
nutella semi-dislike

the rest I don't really have an opinion on

Lily
Porscha
Abigail
doki doki
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:01 pm Oh god I signed up for flipless, lord help me
it's gonna be even more wonderful if the poisoner, trapper, SK, and mafia all land a kill n1

Ideally not all of that happens, as there are a few ways to stop each of those, but I see plenty of chances for a scuffed gamestate given the flipless (which may be better thought of as a free unpreventable and unstoppable super-janitor of all alignments for the mafia's sake; some roles can help with that but it relies on trusting those roles)
This entire reads list is just a WHOLE bunch of words that amount to hedge reads on every slot mentioned with no substance. -1
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:40 pm I know I don't have a tidbit on Nutella. I just haven't played with them in ages, and I haven't seen anything to suggest they're town to me.
Unnecessary shade post while excusing their read if it's wrong because "silly me it's been so long"

If Martin is wolf bet bet Nutella is IC
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
I've noticed a little bit that Martin is completely unwilling to close the door to anything. The vote on 112 is less wolfy I think they were at one and it was me.

What I don't like is that this post is like basically hedging on Porscha much like they've done elsewhere it's saying well give her a day but also maybe she's a wolf. No bueno.
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:58 pm
Lilypetal wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:54 pm Why don't you have an opinion on me?
a lot of your posts are preety thin + I don't know you from the past (at least, I don't think so, maybe I've seen your name once before but I can't recall)

and I just haven't gotten around to figuring how I should engage you and others in order to solve
I really really hate this post because lily is like the main driving force of content in this game and I don't believe for one second that someone could at this point in the game not have a read on her.
MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:04 pm Sean, I am paranoid of you. That's why I wanted to get the slightest pointer one way or another so I can rest my mind lol.

I still recall that one game where you poked and semi-pushed me really early, and I thought you were wolf for it, and was correct about it but ended up changing my mind till it was too late and you just nuked everyone. I think it was that avatar/airbender game?
Meh? I feel like Sean is an easy push to make and like I am not a fan of how they are going about it.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:04 pm Sean, I am paranoid of you. That's why I wanted to get the slightest pointer one way or another so I can rest my mind lol.

I still recall that one game where you poked and semi-pushed me really early, and I thought you were wolf for it, and was correct about it but ended up changing my mind till it was too late and you just nuked everyone. I think it was that avatar/airbender game?
Also reanimators.
Wait have I been misremembering the whole time?

Seems I was remembering the beginning of reanimators and the end ending of Atla as one game. Which is weird.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:26 pm For several games I was thinking of it as Atla but I never actually checked smh.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
It's specific to her so not really that broad imo

Also have really high success rate at correctly tring her when she's town so

Tracker also not on the shortlist of roles to not kill d1 anyways
I suppose so if its more of a meta-specific thing. Thought it was broad as in like you'd foreseeably could apply to any other potential wolves. For some reason I didn't recall this sooner, but I have to ask @Seanzie if he was actually BSing about his read accuracy on Porscha in that recent wolf game or if he actually has that.

As for stuff not to kill d1, for me its largely just whatever adds information to the game or otherwise prevents death that shouldn't be instantly thrown out.

I think that ends up being a list of like, just thinking about the roles in isolation,

Wilgy (jailkeeper)
Lime (doctor)
Lily (coroner)*
Seanzie (delayed cop)*
Nutella (watcher)
Porscha (tracker)

Stuff with * is stuff that could be fake-able without much issue so idk about them. Which is only half or a third of the players in the game depending on how you take it.
Meh this is like okay I think
My conclusion is that Martin hedges on almost every read they make and keeps the doors open for pushes into everyone even his town reads. His flow in the game seems to be following the thread into sus on the slots that are gaining traction or others have mentioned feeling bad about.
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:38 am Vote: Martin

Might not stay here though still want porscha alive no matter what
This is abit much for a hellbus. Even if Martin was like 'hey bus me' in wolf chat, I'd just lose to this.

112 > Martin

112 didn't mention Martin D1.

dokidoki > Martin
dokidoki wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:28 am Yo, I thought end of day was tomorrow, I'm still at work and will be until EoD but I'll get a vote down

I agree that Bus Driver is one of those roles that is dangerous to keep around if they're not villagery, I feel like the Doublevoter is more applicable to that rule because BD is a really strong role for town where I don't think the doublevoter adds a ton

Let me read up on Martin again, I didn't really get an impression before
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dokidoki wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:46 am I don't really get your view on the Wilgy/falcon duo, can you go into more detail there

The Wilgy towncase did not at all convince me
I mean, maybe hes just powerwolfing towncasing his partner but at the time it came across as real to me

Idk, now that i think of it martin could also fit with wilgy so maybe thats just the team
That was my fear too

I'm still considering whether or not I want to just vote out falcon and then kill Wilgy out of policy if falcon is mafia
Martin/Wilgy was the focus, but doki chooses to prioritize me in the conversation at hand.
dokidoki wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:36 am Morning, lily!

I would prefer you voted martin or falcon, personally, but I also wouldn't lose sleep over it... it does seem like my vote is going to be the decider though

Which I might lose a bit of sleep over but probably not
Martin 2nd to Falcon
dokidoki wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:40 am [VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Honestly I'll probably switch to Martin if the votes end at 3-3 but I do think this is more likely to flip mafia
Martin 2nd to Falcon again

Doki ended on Falcon.

Thoughts
Perhaps I'm already biased, but I do think that this reinforced what my thoughts were already regarding the Gamestate. 112 not mentioning Martin and the hedgey take (and minor grouping) that Martin has for 112 needs to be resolved this cycle. We can't take that into d3.

Glad LC is being resolved.

I do feel somewhat worse about Nook. Not sure if I should/shouldn't revoke the thought of no TMI based on assoc here. Nook being put in a group with Falc/Sean who we know aren't Martin's teammates feels icky.

The interactions with Doki can be read as either, 'they were fine with Martin going over' or 'They put Martin as 2nd towards EoD in order to protect.' With how Doki was treating Falcon the majority of D1, it's hard to determine if Doki legitimately had suspicion of Falc and would move or not.

Yeetamus Maxamus list:
112 > Nook/>Doki > LC
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@LinearPoint How does Strongarm interact with Trapper? On re-reading Strongarm it implies that the kill will always go through but actions can be blocked still. Does this mean an SK that visits a trapped player would die if they utilize an action on a trapped player but not a kill?
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:57 am @LinearPoint How does Strongarm interact with Trapper? On re-reading Strongarm it implies that the kill will always go through but actions can be blocked still. Does this mean an SK that visits a trapped player would die if they utilize an action on a trapped player but not a kill?
If anyone visits a trapped target the trap will activate Attacking a random visitor and causing their action to fail.
if the action was a Serial Killer's attack and they have Strongman the kill will go through since Strongman makes it so the Serial Killer's attack cannot fail, but the Serial Killer is still attacked by the trap.
If the Serial Killer visits with a normal role action that is not their attack they will be Attacked by the trap as usual, but only their role action fails, the trap will not effect their Serial Killer attack. This is true regardless of if they have Strongman or not.
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fwiw unless Nook is specifically the SK, I think that makes Nook's trap our best chance at getting them regardless of Nook's alignment.

This can also just end the game for T, W or SK now that I think about it lol
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lol with Yeet, Brad resolving, if Nook kills with trap, Doki kills with trap, SK kills, Scum kills, we could be left with 2 players remaining.
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Bout an hour and a half till EoD? Where is everyone?

In the words of Abigail.

I'm booooooooooooooooooooooooooooored.
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I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
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dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:20 pm
dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?
Gathering spew from a SK does nothing, if lily comes in tomorrow and says nook was mafia then that's cool and I'll work with that, if she says he was SK then I don't see any gain from it

I think it's clear that I am still not sold on the falcon town train although I haven't done all that much today to educate myself in either direction

I do agree that Brad's posting today has been a relatively bad sign for him though so it's possible that it's just him

Otherwise I don't really know, if he's mafia then you're cleared off my track on you, lily would be cleared except in exactly Abigail/lily worlds I think, and I don't really think he's with 112 because he would probably be pushing the thunderdome between us harder if the alternative was his teammate

So I guess the easy answer is Brad and the one I want to be correct for my own personal accuracy is falcon
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falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:00 am
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:11 am
Lilypetal wrote: Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:57 pm brad giving up is honestly an either alignment thing but idk something is off about how he's done it makes me almost think he's a wolf who has given up? like there's certain ways a poisoned wolf acts i guess and this matches my perception of a poisoned wolf
If I'm a wolf I point blank stop posting for anti-spew and stop bothering because I have next to no thread pull.

Like my preferred yeet is actually Falcon for poisoning me but no one wants to do it so I'm just doing whatever.

You have done nothing since last RD except bring up the same talking points....you haven't developed any reads, or really engaged anything outside "I can't believe I got poisoned by the poisoner after I tunneled the poisoner"




You are in anti-spew
Dude you legit need to learn what anti-spew is.
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Actually you need to learn how to develop better reads because holy shit.
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Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.
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dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:20 pm
dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?
Gathering spew from a SK does nothing, if lily comes in tomorrow and says nook was mafia then that's cool and I'll work with that, if she says he was SK then I don't see any gain from it

I think it's clear that I am still not sold on the falcon town train although I haven't done all that much today to educate myself in either direction

I do agree that Brad's posting today has been a relatively bad sign for him though so it's possible that it's just him

Otherwise I don't really know, if he's mafia then you're cleared off my track on you, lily would be cleared except in exactly Abigail/lily worlds I think, and I don't really think he's with 112 because he would probably be pushing the thunderdome between us harder if the alternative was his teammate

So I guess the easy answer is Brad and the one I want to be correct for my own personal accuracy is falcon
Falcon can't be Nooks teammate due to action economy, so you think post Nook flip there's either just the SK or 1 W left then? UNLESS we are specifically in the world where Nook SK, Falcon W? or Abigail/Lily W/W?
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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.
Toss me your legacy dood.
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.
Toss me your legacy dood.
Lily town
Abigail (maybe) town
You're town

I almost want to just townread 112 because they're the only one that's actually reading me fairly and I'm returning the favor on that by not voting her.

Kill the rest.
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Like the argument Nanook is making is like...

"Do you guys think I holster there as mafia instead of just using it?"

Do you think he tells the truth regarding whether or not he's using the shot as mafia?
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:43 pm
dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:20 pm
dokidoki wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?
Gathering spew from a SK does nothing, if lily comes in tomorrow and says nook was mafia then that's cool and I'll work with that, if she says he was SK then I don't see any gain from it

I think it's clear that I am still not sold on the falcon town train although I haven't done all that much today to educate myself in either direction

I do agree that Brad's posting today has been a relatively bad sign for him though so it's possible that it's just him

Otherwise I don't really know, if he's mafia then you're cleared off my track on you, lily would be cleared except in exactly Abigail/lily worlds I think, and I don't really think he's with 112 because he would probably be pushing the thunderdome between us harder if the alternative was his teammate

So I guess the easy answer is Brad and the one I want to be correct for my own personal accuracy is falcon
Falcon can't be Nooks teammate due to action economy, so you think post Nook flip there's either just the SK or 1 W left then? UNLESS we are specifically in the world where Nook SK, Falcon W? or Abigail/Lily W/W?
Oh yeah

Then I guess if he's mafia then one of Abigail/lily is getting too easy of a pass

That's unsettling
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That hard world is that one of them is getting too easy of a pass*

Or I'm just misreading his interactions with 112
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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.
Toss me your legacy dood.
Lily town
Abigail (maybe) town
You're town

I almost want to just townread 112 because they're the only one that's actually reading me fairly and I'm returning the favor on that by not voting her.

Kill the rest.
Is it not more likely that tmi would provide the easier townread, while the uninformed continue along?
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DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:08 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:47 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:45 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.
Toss me your legacy dood.
Lily town
Abigail (maybe) town
You're town

I almost want to just townread 112 because they're the only one that's actually reading me fairly and I'm returning the favor on that by not voting her.

Kill the rest.
Is it not more likely that tmi would provide the easier townread, while the uninformed continue along?
Yeah but also there's people that are town that can read someone correctly and I chose to read the situation that way.

If that's the only person reading me town, and it's mafia, then the actual town players need to do better.
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.

I like how you think that your role is somehow AI.






It's not.






You decided to tunnel the poisoner, and not develop a single other SR. Big brain move bud, honestly how did you not see yourself getting poisoned?
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Smalltown Circus [Day 2] - Missing

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falcon45ca wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:18 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:40 pm Like once again you decided to poison the fucking DOCTOR of all fucking things.

The fact that people are fine with this is why towns lose majority of games on this site now.

I like how you think that your role is somehow AI.






It's not.






You decided to tunnel the poisoner, and not develop a single other SR. Big brain move bud, honestly how did you not see yourself getting poisoned?
Do you not develop reads that aren't OMGUS?
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