Landlord Legacy Listing - Day Six (6)

[robyn]

Kill Ender. Kill Robyn. End game. That's the plan.

kill ender then end the game, lucky for me you’ve been wrong about everything for 3 cycles straight and have lost all credibility whereas i’ve been ahead of everything

furthermore it’s literally game throwing to not be townreading me right now, you should be townreading me right here and the fact you aren’t is alarming and further destroys your credibility

[robyn]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

won’t the game be called if sub 3 people alive

[WindwardAway]

Robyn, WWA, Ender, Long Con.

F4?

Nook is still alive lol

Oh, right, I was going by who was on the Night Poll. Why is he missing?

Oh, wtf?? Good question, maybe it was a mistake?

[Long Con]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

won’t the game be called if sub 3 people alive

Will it?

[robyn]

uhhh nook man is still alive though hmmmmm

[WindwardAway]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

Yeah I know
But we won't know that unless there aren't any NKs until it's just us
And if there's a wolf, they would definitely have to kill before it got to that point
...i guess that's your point, they'd be forced to kill one of us to avoid that situation

[WindwardAway]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

won’t the game be called if sub 3 people alive

I don't actually know. OP says the game doesn't end until everyone votes that it's over, and if we're wrong then town autoloses.

[Long Con]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

Yeah I know
But we won't know that unless there aren't any NKs until it's just us
And if there's a wolf, they would definitely have to kill before it got to that point
...i guess that's your point, they'd be forced to kill one of us to avoid that situation

Exactly. I think that one of us dies to a wolf tonight, and then we have to take out the wolf tomorrow, then we'll be good to execute unknowns until we can't anymore.

[WindwardAway]

Thing is, I could plausibly see all 5 of us being town
But then the scumteam just imploded and that's kinda anticlimactic

I don't think it matters. You and I are the only confirmed Town. The game must end with one or both of us alive, and no one else, to have the greatest surety of victory.

Yeah I know
But we won't know that unless there aren't any NKs until it's just us
And if there's a wolf, they would definitely have to kill before it got to that point
...i guess that's your point, they'd be forced to kill one of us to avoid that situation

Exactly. I think that one of us dies to a wolf tonight, and then we have to take out the wolf tomorrow, then we'll be good to execute unknowns until we can't anymore.

Ok yeah, but remember the (random?) ghost votes can skew the executions. Which is why it isn't safe to haphazardly vote people out.

If someone dies tonight, we'll be in F4 tomorrow, we vote someone out but we kinda need to be unanimous or at least 3 on 1. And I'm worried it might not go as planned.

We can also vote sleep (no exe) but that could probably also get screwed over by the ghost votes? Or maybe not?

I certainly hope the "game over" vote is not also affected by ghost votes or we would already be in deep shit for having too few players.

[robyn]

a very simple argument for one town, specifically nook town, in nook/ender town is that they’d both hold votes until the very end and nook could’ve just sheeped me but accumulated him + ender + 3 votes into a game over vote and have won quite easily

[WindwardAway]

Just realised that Bereft is still in the poll lol. Guessing nook getting removed was just a mod error.

[WindwardAway]

a very simple argument for one town, specifically nook town, in nook/ender town is that they’d both hold votes until the very end and nook could’ve just sheeped me but accumulated him + ender + 3 votes into a game over vote and have won quite easily

Maybe, but that's assuming scum had control over the ghost votes, right? I was under the assumption they were mostly random.

[Long Con]

Ender is a wolf, isn't he? Didn't Boq die to give us that info?

[WindwardAway]

Ender is a wolf, isn't he? Didn't Boq die to give us that info?

Boq said his assumption could be wrong, so it wasn't hard mech info, but it must've been something fairly convincing

[WindwardAway]

I have a suspicion of what it was, and I also think I know how it could've been wrong, but it's all kinda pointless speculation. I don't actually want to vote anyone else BEFORE Ender, despite not being convinced. It's hard cause we don't have the full picture from boquise but that's just how the game goes.

[Long Con]

And Nook controls the extra votes?

[robyn]

boq was something which confirmed that ender carried the nk and not me, and he was testing who everyone thought was last to see who was wolfsiding and who wasn’t

[WindwardAway]

And Nook controls the extra votes?

No idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday

[Long Con]

But there was no nightkill

[WindwardAway]

boq was something which confirmed that ender carried the nk and not me, and he was testing who everyone thought was last to see who was wolfsiding and who wasn’t

Correct
Not confirmed, though, but like almost confirmed
But I believe he got his answer anyway in the reaction test he did

[robyn]

And Nook controls the extra votes?

No idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday

i literally figured out that it was nook in thread and nook not saying if he thought it was ender or not was literally outing for him because he was carefully avoiding not confirming any mech inoffensive

[WindwardAway]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

[WindwardAway]

And Nook controls the extra votes?

No idea about that
I thought we thought it was ender yesterday

i literally figured out that it was nook in thread and nook not saying if he thought it was ender or not was literally outing for him because he was carefully avoiding not confirming any mech inoffensive

Ohhhh
Ok, now I see what you mean.

[Long Con]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

[WindwardAway]

Yeah then you're right, they're not paired

[robyn]

Ender is a wolf, isn't he? Didn't Boq die to give us that info?

if u read where this happened you’d find a very blatant action which makes me town in all worlds

[robyn]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

he said he’d sheep me, and i outlined the “kill ender end game” plan like 12h ago

[WindwardAway]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

[robyn]

i only know one man venal enough to chop wigly there that isn't ender himself, his name is nook. i think that makes nook v though, i just think it's easy to think they're partnered but they aren't

i don't think bereft is scum and i think entire team is dead after ender dies and we've figured out that the voting ability was nook

i think ender's side of nook/ender interactions look bad and pockety and nook being more independent and outspoken than a gay teenager (moi)

i think we just chop ender, f4 where sleep happens and vote sleep after the f4 ends with confidence if someone isn't nked, otherwise i'll have to check with rondo what happens in a situation where 2 townies are alive @RondoDimBuckle

I think I'm actually ok with just following Robyn's lead tomorrow

[Long Con]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

[WindwardAway]

It's kind of unfortunate I got cleared by svs's flip, I think pretty much any other slot would've been a more useful check
Oh well

[WindwardAway]

It's kind of unfortunate I got cleared by svs's flip, I think pretty much any other slot would've been a more useful check
Oh well

On the bright side, I guess it forced ender to stop pushing me
But I don't think enough of you guys actually thought I was scum to vote me out in the first place. I was in a decent position to exist in peace and not get killed.

[Long Con]

Do we know how the host resolves tied votes?

[WindwardAway]

Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action

[WindwardAway]

Do we know how the host resolves tied votes?

I wondered that earlier for a while, but then I decided it wasn't important because of the ghost votes

[robyn]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

[Long Con]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

[robyn]

Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action

ender pushed bereft, aka locktown bereft, aka abbie threw hard

[Long Con]

Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action

Yeah, that was pretty revealing, and also easily concocted by Ender.

[WindwardAway]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

Oh yeah he did totally dip lol
I assumed weekends and time zones and stuff but I have like no sense of time and you're right, he vanished after giving up on trying to wriggle free of the elim
And he hasn't come back, right? Maybe he assumed he had gone over, which would also be another point in Nook's favor for being unteamed

[WindwardAway]

Did ender push anyone at all yesterday cause I don't remember it
I only remember him telling boquise he thought he knew what happened but that it was the wrong conclusion
Meaning he already assumed Boq was town
And that ender did take an action

ender pushed bereft, aka locktown bereft, aka abbie threw hard

I forgot about that
Ok yeah

[robyn]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

well too bad because the person with the 3 ghost votes trusts me on this, so you’ll have to be more convincing in your sus of me at the very least

[WindwardAway]

But there was no nightkill

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.

You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.

You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.

If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.

[Long Con]

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

well too bad because the person with the 3 ghost votes trusts me on this, so you’ll have to be more convincing in your sus of me at the very least

It's not about suspicion. It's about playing it safe. If you're Town then you have nothing to lose by graciously dying before we vote to Endgame.

[Long Con]

You know there are other ways to prevent a kill than just wolves not choosing to kill, right?
Boq was probably a roleblocker
(I assume we can speculate on this)

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.

You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.

You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.

If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.

Either of them could be an Independent who does not kill.

[WindwardAway]

...im not even gonna get involved in this, never mind.

[WindwardAway]

That's a likely explanation. Maybe the wolves were all dead already and we'll find out after we yeet Ender.

I hope Nanook is down with that plan, if he holds massive voting power!

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.

You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.

You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.

If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.

Either of them could be an Independent who does not kill.

You know a non-killing 3p can just win with town, right?

[WindwardAway]

I bet it was just Wilgy, or possibly one of the people who got slank killed, but no more

[WindwardAway]

I'd believe nook was a 3p over Robyn but I don't think either of them need to die

Also there's like no way long con gets killed tonight with that attitude, lol

[robyn]

Yeah, if wolves holstered or if there was a protective who saved the kill target, then it would make things different but I believe the only way Boq could be certain enough to push is if he had blocked Ender. Or also if there were no wolves left but there's probably one. If it's not Ender, I'd reconsider Nook, but it's not both, Robyn is right.

To me, the plan from this point on looks the same, no matter what happens or has happened.

on the contrary, if nook scum then tomorrow is an auto win for ender/nook, but because ender is outed that makes it so if nook does vote ender tomorrow he’s mech town

and ender is outed because he ghosted the thread

so the plan is just kill ender and end the game, gg ezpz

No.

Yeah but let's say I die tonight for example. You go into tomorrow with you/ender/robyn/nook and vote ender out.

You go into night with you/robyn/nook. Nobody dies.

You do need to end the game. You don't vote Robyn or nook.

If there's a kill on you and it's just robyn/nook then the game is definitely over anyway.

Either of them could be an Independent who does not kill.

You know a non-killing 3p can just win with town, right?

not in this uwu