The Syndicate

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:11 am Oh yo, I'm dead. Hype!!!

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:47 am Bring back Windward Away

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:42 am fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:14 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:42 am fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh

Are you guys seriously playing as if neighbors have the same alignment??? Wtf. Thats very wrong. I'm town tho.

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 1:33 am Yeah NK, right.

But otherwise, neighborhood makes clear don't assume alignments are linked.

Sample size small.

Think porscha's neighbor wolf.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:44 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 5:39 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:42 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:09 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?

I think he's SCUMMY.

Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.

Odd post

Even post

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:16 am Monroe.

I presume they're well townread over in here, no?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:29 pm Alexy
Alexy has had many moments this game not being in the know on a lot of posts.
The good:

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.

Unprompted watcher claim
-admitted to having an extra vote placed on him as tutuu did N1. If we believe that to be a mafia ability….that’s a good look

Alexy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:44 pm I don't know how much I'm going to be around today so since I'm on folks' poe I don't want you to waste time on that. I'm a town watcher. I had 2 opportunities to watch someone during separate night phases. Night 1 I watched psv, and Scotty had visited her. Night 2 I watched Long Con and nobody visited him. The latter is the same night I got the extra vote placed on me for today.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:03 pm @Alexy @Cape90 @DarlingMonroe @potentialsheltervet

Can y'all do me a solid and vote out Scotty with me, please?

Would be highly appreciated.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:02 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:00 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:59 pm It's okay Tutuu just give me G2H who you think you vote the most today I'll try to help you with that.

Scotty or alexy should be optimal for today, i laid out a ton of arguments at sod, i couldnt catch a chance to even read scottys responses tho, i saw he replied to 5 things

I think I go Scotty more than likely at that rate the redirector claim and then absolutely 0 good results coming out of it feels bad.

Alexy might still be town IMO.

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 7:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:32 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 pm Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.

In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?

Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.

Cape's poor vote record.

PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'

Ignore the binary ‘who voted whom’ for a sec.

I made a full case against ilario; begged others to go there, no one bit, said 20 min before eod that my ideal lynch would be ilario, left to make dinner, ilario was suddenly a wagon.

So…I should be towncore. But I’m not, because everyone e else couldn’t make their minds up

I dig it. Like I said, I just need to validate this was really the case.

As it stands Confident PoE is cape and brad. Not confident PoE is you and Tutuu.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:54 pm 1 in Brad, Tutuu, Cape

PSV has town equity based on Ilario D1

Scotty looks pretty bad d1 being on PSV

Ilario wagon looks pure based on PSV's equity

Cape and Scotty continue looking bad being on LC

Brad minor equity being on PSV with a 3p and Ilario, PSV continues to be town

Scotty wagon was at least 'pure'

JUST VCA in isolation, Scotty > Cape > Brad

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 pm Glad I did that real quick, I feel more acquainted with the game once again.

In terms of the VCA based PoE of Scotty > Cape > Brad, I don't know how accurate that is. I have a fleeting memory of it being Scotty who proposed Ilario suspicion earlier on D2?

Things for me to check when it's not turkey time: Scotty's position on PSV in spite of Ilario suspicion and the incorrect vote.

Cape's poor vote record.

PSV's position of 'just town based on VCA'

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:23 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 11:00 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:59 pm It's okay Tutuu just give me G2H who you think you vote the most today I'll try to help you with that.

Scotty or alexy should be optimal for today, i laid out a ton of arguments at sod, i couldnt catch a chance to even read scottys responses tho, i saw he replied to 5 things

Please stop humoring Lime Coke. The guy is openly trolling at this point. He isn’t solving- he is absolutely not working in town’s interest

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm No.

Alexy said he saw me visit psv N1.

I confirmed that.

Longcon said he blocked me.

You being mafia and Alexy being town should be a self-explanatory mechanical possibility. We keep discussing the possibility of Long Con being roleblocked. Which is that. Long Con doesn't know if he's roleblocked. You don't know if your action goes through. Alexy could be town regardless of your alignment. From her pov - you visited. From your pov - you think you visited, but you can't know for sure. From LC's pov - he thinks he blocked you, but he can't know for sure.

It is very implausible that I failed. Very implausible. Alexy saw me visit, so LC’s action didn’t work in some way.

That’s the mechanical truth.

Now obviously that’s *my* truth, since you don’t know if alexy and I are in on it.

My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

So now, looking at the mech you’ve laid out, you say town is advantaged. Ok, with what we know, if that is the case, mafia’s gotta have some more powerful roles we haven’t seen. I’ll betcha the other thread has a town role blocker, and we still have a mafia role blocker over here. Since TSP had my role, and I’m town.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:35 pm Alexy can still be wolf- a mafia watcher, I guess. Seems like a watered down role for mafia, but I’m sure there is a mafia equivalent. Honestly? Could be a mafia equivalent of all power roles. Like if Long Con’s mafia equivalent targeted him on N1.

Presumably 6v2 right now in this thread. Misyeet gets down to 4v2, which is mylo.

If one of me or alexy take to the torch, how confident are we in successfully navigating mylo once you learn we weren’t lying

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:06 am Lime and Scotty/Alexy is where im at if there’s 2 other wolves. If there’s only one, im thinking Lime.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am Also where does everyone stand on Cape90? Everything reads them as town all-around?

Again, Lime is my biggest pings, but my reads have been far from 100% (let’s just say that). So im hesitant to try and persuade anyone.

PSV, Wilgy, Tutuu, I need yalls take pleaseeee

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:12 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm @DrWilgy Please don't come guns blazing at me, we might need to consider a world where we're both town

Sure, what did you think on those who were full steam ahead with your suspicion on me? I noticed at least LC, LC, Scotty and Cape were like "ahhh yes yes this makes sense" and not much beyond.

Did anyone besides you actually assess my vote placement when it happened?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:30 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am Also where does everyone stand on Cape90? Everything reads them as town all-around?

Again, Lime is my biggest pings, but my reads have been far from 100% (let’s just say that). So im hesitant to try and persuade anyone.

PSV, Wilgy, Tutuu, I need yalls take pleaseeee

I agree with the cape tr i just need to tr him, don't have luxury to consider chopping him imo. We have room for 1 mistake only

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:44 pm DM
tutuu

Long Con
PSV

Scotty
Alexy

Cape
Lime Coke

Wilgy
Delta

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:50 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:48 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate

ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?

ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP

Ohhh I see I had the same thing happen. Rip



Also wow; that’s not a bad theory and i love it

if true. TSP role says targeter gets true target. then LC's true target's headmate is scum in the other thread?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:25 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm No.

Alexy said he saw me visit psv N1.

I confirmed that.

Longcon said he blocked me.

You being mafia and Alexy being town should be a self-explanatory mechanical possibility. We keep discussing the possibility of Long Con being roleblocked. Which is that. Long Con doesn't know if he's roleblocked. You don't know if your action goes through. Alexy could be town regardless of your alignment. From her pov - you visited. From your pov - you think you visited, but you can't know for sure. From LC's pov - he thinks he blocked you, but he can't know for sure.

It is very implausible that I failed. Very implausible. Alexy saw me visit, so LC’s action didn’t work in some way.

That’s the mechanical truth.

Now obviously that’s *my* truth, since you don’t know if alexy and I are in on it.

My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

So now, looking at the mech you’ve laid out, you say town is advantaged. Ok, with what we know, if that is the case, mafia’s gotta have some more powerful roles we haven’t seen. I’ll betcha the other thread has a town role blocker, and we still have a mafia role blocker over here. Since TSP had my role, and I’m town.

Tsp couldnt have impacted us from the other thread id say coz delta's flip told us that he was the only one who can read both threads

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:48 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate

ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?

ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:35 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:30 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am Also where does everyone stand on Cape90? Everything reads them as town all-around?

Again, Lime is my biggest pings, but my reads have been far from 100% (let’s just say that). So im hesitant to try and persuade anyone.

PSV, Wilgy, Tutuu, I need yalls take pleaseeee

I agree with the cape tr i just need to tr him, don't have luxury to consider chopping him imo. We have room for 1 mistake only

I don't exactly know what this means considering your readslist a day ago looked like

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:44 pm DM
tutuu

Long Con
PSV

Scotty
Alexy

Cape
Lime Coke

Wilgy
Delta

this

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:37 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:35 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:30 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am Also where does everyone stand on Cape90? Everything reads them as town all-around?

Again, Lime is my biggest pings, but my reads have been far from 100% (let’s just say that). So im hesitant to try and persuade anyone.

PSV, Wilgy, Tutuu, I need yalls take pleaseeee

I agree with the cape tr i just need to tr him, don't have luxury to consider chopping him imo. We have room for 1 mistake only

I don't exactly know what this means considering your readslist a day ago looked like

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:44 pm DM
tutuu

Long Con
PSV

Scotty
Alexy

Cape
Lime Coke

Wilgy
Delta

this

Yeah and?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:12 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:06 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:01 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:50 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:48 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm My running theory was TSP redirected LC from the other thread for some reason. But that is also VERY random, as LC hadn’t claimed anything at that point, and why wouldn’t TSP do something in his own thread.

what if actions one side also happen other side to target's headmate

ex TSP drove WWA and...a scummate?

ah yes of course, I ruin my big reveal with a broken quote. EBWOP

Ohhh I see I had the same thing happen. Rip



Also wow; that’s not a bad theory and i love it

if true. TSP role says targeter gets true target. then LC's true target's headmate is scum in the other thread?

Wait, what does true target mean? I was under the impression that I have the same role redirector over here, but I don’t have anything mentioning ‘true target’

I lost other thread access on death but like

"pick two. actions swap. _action person gets name of true target_"

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:38 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:37 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:35 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:30 am

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:57 am Also where does everyone stand on Cape90? Everything reads them as town all-around?

Again, Lime is my biggest pings, but my reads have been far from 100% (let’s just say that). So im hesitant to try and persuade anyone.

PSV, Wilgy, Tutuu, I need yalls take pleaseeee

I agree with the cape tr i just need to tr him, don't have luxury to consider chopping him imo. We have room for 1 mistake only

I don't exactly know what this means considering your readslist a day ago looked like

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:44 pm DM
tutuu

Long Con
PSV

Scotty
Alexy

Cape
Lime Coke

Wilgy
Delta

this

Yeah and?

if you agree with the TR on me, doesn't that make me... a townread? I do not get it

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:39 am where has PSV been in all this? Same with Alexy, both have been completely absent today

also PSV's day 3 was kinda meh tbh

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:42 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:28 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:09 pm [VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Why rush for the Wilgy vote? What do you think about Scotty + Alexy?

I think he's SCUMMY.

Actually no but yeah I think he's possible mafia and I could see him bussing at that time because he's got a tendency to do so when he's backed into a corner as mafia.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:53 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:32 pm [VOTE: Alexy] aubergine

Also town masons + watcher + redirector + jailkeeper and mafia having no power roles is impossible. It's beyond broken and townsided.

Alexy + Scotty both town means we are living in this setup:

Town:

Mason
Mason
Jailkeeper
Redirector
Watcher
VT
VT
VT
VT
VT

Mafia:
Roleblocker
Goon
Goon(?) (No evidence of action)

3p

This is a beyond ridiculously townsided setup

So, I think it's safe to say there should be at least one mafia in Scotty and Alexy

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 11:43 am @Bereft what did TSP flip? @pyxxy do you remember in more detail?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:08 pm Scottys role doesnt sound fitting to me

He claimed a redirector that cant redirect the factional kill

Ok, then what can he redirect? Mafia has nothing apart from potentially a roleblocker? One of them was goon, potentially two are

Well i suppose in that case if hes town his role is purposefully weak? I dunno

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 12:10 pm Also who was Berefts partner?