Severance [Evening Four]

[Made]

i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

i think half the time i've refereed to him as insomnia

but this was my most recent post on him:

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

so is it fair to summarize your view of ted to be green, but trending downwards?

[Gira]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?

i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

[Made]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

the reason I asked @tedxtr if I was scum with him recently was because I recall shitting the bed as scum and I feel like that was with him… id imagine he specifically would find my play here incompatible with my scum game, but that doesn’t have to be the case.

gira voting ted is very mind f$&ky i must say, but maybe delulu is the solulu

[Made]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?

i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

@leetic, do you agree with this take? ted/gira never being w/w?

[Made]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?

i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

@leetic, do you agree with this take? ted/gira never being w/w?

[Made]

and because i dont want to never be able to win as scum again, I will say that while not comfortably, I think im still in my scum range—especially after losing so bad last time

[tedxtr]

the best scenario is gonna happen, praise the lawd

[Gira]

i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

@Gira do you still feel this way? i control-f ted in your iso, and this the most direct read I could find.

i think half the time i've refereed to him as insomnia

but this was my most recent post on him:

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

i read the last two pages in reverse, it's not rondo


i had a flash of uncertainty earlier on ted today but i went to read back on tsp's posts and i still think he is just town from that. i can re-check ted's iso but i highly doubt he is mafia at this point in time

so is it fair to summarize your view of ted to be green, but trending downwards?

i'm re-reading him right now

to be honest, there are still moments in his posts that look towny, i'd be lying if i said i had a good case against him

but it's possible that just every push being made is wrong, which means i would have to be misclearing someone

so half of this is me saying "fuck it" and throwing out a wild guess, and i also want to see if the people suggesting i'm mafia with ted are actually willing to stand behind their convictions

[Made]

oh dear the tinfoil is coming…do we ever need to worry about gira/rondo?

[Made]

oh dear the tinfoil is coming…do we ever need to worry about gira/rondo?

wait were good, rondo is rarely scum here…i hope…

[tedxtr]

i wouldn't kill made here

[leetic]

i wouldn't kill made here

Why not?

[Gira]

i don't have anything in my mind that clears me from being a teammate with rondo, other than i guess him and tsp dogpiling me if you want to convince yourself that was a bus go for it

[Gira]

had i known gira was this abrasive all game - wouldn't have tr'd him earlier today

made - undecided

last post

also this is how i always am because i fucking hate people

[tedxtr]

i wouldn't kill made here

Why not?

his general play and in particular yesterday w/r/t his cw

[leetic]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

[leetic]

i wouldn't kill made here

Why not?

his general play and in particular yesterday w/r/t his cw

What about his general play is towny? And if not Made, then who do you suggest?

[Made]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

yessir

[Gira]

has it always been?

[leetic]

in general my expectation is mafia in endgamee rarely hard align, their goal is to split the room, sometimes around a false dichotomy

sorry to spray and pray a bit, but want this in writing just incase Im right: That’s why i think i might be right about a ted/gira. I don’t like the noncommittal nature of gira’s read on me/rondo either. It’s giving “okay so after we chop made, we chop rondo or vice versa”

i am not arguing that?? wtf

yes' i'm going back and forth because i'm uncertain but i have actively been TRYING to investgate people outside you and rondo where half the game seems hung up on you today


my difficulty with you has been that a lot of the time it's been very hard to figure out what your actual thoughts/analysis are on the game, if you could make that clearer i think that'd be helpful.

in a tweet:
it’d be weird if there were one scum or three left so assume two.
combo that make sense to me:
-Abigail x leetic (which if it is them well done, amazing play)
- ted/gira

Im having trouble imaginging rondo with anyone else alive, and that, plus his tsp vote, plus his post today makes him look green af

so it really has to be you and Ted at this point. I could ofc be wrong, but that is my thoughts/anaylsis of the thread.

at the moment im reading for connections between ted and gira to see if there anything there clearing.


also ted, I played scum with you recentlyish right?

i think the way i've been interacting with ted is like obviously never scum/scum but if you want to kill one of us then go for it i'll help you out

@leetic, do you agree with this take? ted/gira never being w/w?

I think it's unlikely, as why would Gira be so steadfast on the TSP wagon if Gira/Made is w/t?

[leetic]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

yessir

Didn't you say you were just vanilla earlier?

[tedxtr]

@Porscha confidence level on abi being villa, and how likely would they be to fool you as well

[leetic]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

yessir

Didn't you say you were just vanilla earlier?

Also, if true does your role affect parity?

[Made]

@leetic can you rephrase? why is gira/made being w/t relevant to gira/ted being w/w?

[leetic]

@leetic can you rephrase? why is gira/made being w/t relevant to gira/ted being w/w?

Why was Gira so unwilling to switch to Dizzy if the team was TSP/Gira/ted?

[leetic]

Also that world would have all three wolves on robyn D1

[Made]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

yessir

Didn't you say you were just vanilla earlier?

Also, if true does your role affect parity?

I am vanilla.

[leetic]

gira is voting ted now…I mean my vote is worth 2, so sure.
[VOTE: ted] aubergine

Is that a hard claim?

yessir

Didn't you say you were just vanilla earlier?

Also, if true does your role affect parity?

I am vanilla.

Then who do you claim your vote counts for two?

[tedxtr]

is he not claiming the +1 vote mechanic that has been announced over and over?

[tedxtr]

lol maybe he misread it xDDD

[leetic]

is he not claiming the +1 vote mechanic that has been announced over and over?

He says his vote is "worth 2", but granted at this point I'm not sure that Made is even playing the same game as us.

[Made]

@leetic can you rephrase? why is gira/made being w/t relevant to gira/ted being w/w?

Why was Gira so unwilling to switch to Dizzy if the team was TSP/Gira/ted?

well if you think the Dizzy slot is going to flip soon, and you dont want to get your hands dirty??

regardless i see your point now, thank you

[leetic]

Can a player really be this oblivious about the game when it's been explained many times? This has to be feigned, right?

[Made]

is he not claiming the +1 vote mechanic that has been announced over and over?

He says his vote is "worth 2", but granted at this point I'm not sure that Made is even playing the same game as us.

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yeah it’s just a +1 like everyone else

[Made]

brb reading the sign up thread

[tedxtr]

made derped like 7 times this game

[leetic]

As far as the cred for the wagon thing, I think Gira is really the only person that I think had minimal incentive.

thoughts here @RondoDimBuckle ??
(also long time no see! hope youre well)

Yeah, this is the post that suggests that Made has had more awareness of the game than he has led on. Why call to RDB here if he was unaware of their TSP vote, and if he was aware then why would he be unaware of everything else?

[tedxtr]

why are we clearing abigail again?

[leetic]

why are we clearing abigail again?

It's mainly that she doesn't look partnered with any of the main suspects. And we also know that she didn't submit the kill if she is a wolf.

[Made]

@leetic do you know for sure that your check confirms nightkills, and not just other night actions?

[leetic]

@leetic do you know for sure that your check confirms nightkills, and not just other night actions?

Given that ted's role specifies that it doesn't include kills (if his claim is to be believed) then yes?

[tedxtr]

why are we clearing abigail again?

It's mainly that she doesn't look partnered with any of the main suspects. And we also know that she didn't submit the kill if she is a wolf.

at least that’s what you’re saying

[leetic]

RDB and Abby are for all intents and purposes parked, and there's a +1 on Made. If we're gonna lynch anyone else town has to be united.

[tedxtr]

honestly, im at the point where the only team that wouldn’t shock me would be abi / leetic, or any combo with leetic

purely cuz it’d explain why this game has been so hard

i’m also tinfoiling him having 3 shots, apparently

[Made]

why are we clearing abigail again?

It's mainly that she doesn't look partnered with any of the main suspects. And we also know that she didn't submit the kill if she is a wolf.

at least that’s what you’re saying

nah thats my thinking as well. I not playing super methodically atm, as may be apparent, but from where my head is at atm, the partnership that makes the most sense is abigail and leetic and if leetic is scum, they can just have the win tbh

[tedxtr]

why are we clearing abigail again?

It's mainly that she doesn't look partnered with any of the main suspects. And we also know that she didn't submit the kill if she is a wolf.

at least that’s what you’re saying

nah thats my thinking as well. I not playing super methodically atm, as may be apparent, but from where my head is at atm, the partnership that makes the most sense is abigail and leetic and if leetic is scum, they can just have the win tbh

i’m in the same spot

any vote i place feels so dogshit to me. this would only happen if im terribly misclearing someone

but if he broke his meta and 1k posted then im charging it to the game, sorry not sorry

[tedxtr]

i know it sounds like a hedge, but it’s more of a “he can win this shit, i can’t be arsed”

[tedxtr]

the only way i’d ever justify killing him would be if everyone else was obv villa, which they aren’t

[Made]

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

2 hours 30 to go d2.PNG

recreated as text and copying leetic's PR color idea

RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - Ranmilia, WWA, pyxxy, leetic
pyxxy (5) - Rondo, ted, Abi, bereft, gira

Rondo, TSP, WWA all with (1) from the shadow votes

--------------

from here:
WWA moves to TSP (1+1) at EOD-2h23m
Rondo moves to TSP (2+1) at EOD-2h15m
Dizzy votes Ran (1) at EOD-2h03m
Dizzy votes idk at EOD-2h02m
Gira moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h59m

VC refresh 1:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (3) - Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Rondo, Gira
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, bereft

---
Rondo moves to Abi (1) at EOD-1h42m
Bereft moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h13m
Rondo moves to Bereft (1) at EOD-1h11m
Rondo moves to ted (1) at EOD-0h59m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h57m
Rondo moves to pyxxy (3) at EOD-0h56m

VC refresh 2:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (2) - pyxxy, leetic
TSP (4+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Ranmilia
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, Rondo

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h31m
Ranmilia moves to Dizzy (3) at EOD-0h20m
Rondo moves to Dizzy (4) at EOD-0h07m

VC refresh 3:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - pyxxy, leetic, Ranmilia, Rondo
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h05m
Rondo moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h01m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (5+1) at EOD-0h00m
leetic moves to TSP (6+1) at EOD-0h00m and one extra minute late

final VC as we all know:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (1) - pyxxy
TSP (6+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Rondo, Ranmilia, leetic
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

reposting so i can refer back to this easily via mobile

ebwop, pyxxy didnt say this, I did.

let’s speedrun the tinfoil tho…
if Leetic and abigail then leetic/abigail/tsp….
then abi voted town d1, and leetic didnt vote till tue literal last second… that’s not amazing…

@leetic why such the late bote. were you not feeling any of the wagons or something?

[leetic]

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

2 hours 30 to go d2.PNG

recreated as text and copying leetic's PR color idea

RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - Ranmilia, WWA, pyxxy, leetic
pyxxy (5) - Rondo, ted, Abi, bereft, gira

Rondo, TSP, WWA all with (1) from the shadow votes

--------------

from here:
WWA moves to TSP (1+1) at EOD-2h23m
Rondo moves to TSP (2+1) at EOD-2h15m
Dizzy votes Ran (1) at EOD-2h03m
Dizzy votes idk at EOD-2h02m
Gira moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h59m

VC refresh 1:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (3) - Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Rondo, Gira
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, bereft

---
Rondo moves to Abi (1) at EOD-1h42m
Bereft moves to TSP (3+1) at EOD-1h13m
Rondo moves to Bereft (1) at EOD-1h11m
Rondo moves to ted (1) at EOD-0h59m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h57m
Rondo moves to pyxxy (3) at EOD-0h56m

VC refresh 2:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (2) - pyxxy, leetic
TSP (4+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Ranmilia
pyxxy (3) - ted, Abi, Rondo

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h31m
Ranmilia moves to Dizzy (3) at EOD-0h20m
Rondo moves to Dizzy (4) at EOD-0h07m

VC refresh 3:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (4) - pyxxy, leetic, Ranmilia, Rondo
TSP (3+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

---
Rondo moves to leetic (1) at EOD-0h05m
Rondo moves to TSP (4+1) at EOD-0h01m
Ranmilia moves to TSP (5+1) at EOD-0h00m
leetic moves to TSP (6+1) at EOD-0h00m and one extra minute late

final VC as we all know:
RonDubz (1) - TSP
Dizzy (1) - pyxxy
TSP (6+1) - WWA, Gira, Bereft, Rondo, Ranmilia, leetic
pyxxy (2) - ted, Abi

reposting so i can refer back to this easily via mobile

ebwop, pyxxy didnt say this, I did.

let’s speedrun the tinfoil tho…
if Leetic and abigail then leetic/abigail/tsp….
then abi voted town d1, and leetic didnt vote till tue literal last second… that’s not amazing…

@leetic why such the late bote. were you not feeling any of the wagons or something?

Which vote are you even talking about? The only phase where I didn't vote someone early was this one