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JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Game rules and guidelines (note especially voting rules #2, #5, and #8, but all rules apply)

Spoiler: show

Voting and Claiming Rules

1.) Claim whatever you want if anything.
2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).
3.) Votes are changeable with no limitations.
4.) Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to vote in any phase whatsoever. There are participation standards though, which I'll cover separately.
5.) The player who has received the most votes at the deadline shall be eliminated. There is no majority hammer.
6.) In the event of a tied vote, the eliminated player shall be decided among the tied names at random.
7.) A "no elimination" option will be included each day phase. This option must lead the tally with no ties to be enacted at any time.
8.) YOU MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IN THE INTENDED SPIRIT OF MY GAME, AND IT RELATES TO RULES AGAINST EXCESSIVE APPEAL TO EMOTION.

Participation Standard

There is no rigid standard for participation; this will be at the host's discretion. All players are expected to make a sincere effort to contribute to the game thread consistently enough that their content can be fairly judged. Non-participation has an adverse effect upon the balance of the game. If I decide a player is not participating enough to facilitate this balance, that player will be replaced. If a replacement cannot be found, there might be a modkill. With this in mind I reiterate: it's very important that everyone try to participate. At least a few posts per day/night cycle are a bare minimum.

Other

1.) Respect all guidelines and rules found in The Syndicate's announcements section. Above all else, treat your fellow players with respect -- this is just a game.
2.) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations.
3.) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4.) Just don't make posts when you're dead unless you have been given express permission by the host.
5.) Non-players may not post in the game thread.
6.) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic may choose to do so in {Off-Topic} Green. There's an "OT" button for this in the post editor. This is not required.
7.) If you ever have any questions about the rules, roles, or setup, please ask me privately.

Angleshooting, excessive appeal to emotion, and loopholes

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Utilize the moderators on duty.
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Game rules and guidelines (note especially voting rules #2, #5, and #8, but all rules apply)

Spoiler: show

Voting and Claiming Rules

1.) Claim whatever you want if anything.
2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).
3.) Votes are changeable with no limitations.
4.) Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to vote in any phase whatsoever. There are participation standards though, which I'll cover separately.
5.) The player who has received the most votes at the deadline shall be eliminated. There is no majority hammer.
6.) In the event of a tied vote, the eliminated player shall be decided among the tied names at random.
7.) A "no elimination" option will be included each day phase. This option must lead the tally with no ties to be enacted at any time.
8.) YOU MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IN THE INTENDED SPIRIT OF MY GAME, AND IT RELATES TO RULES AGAINST EXCESSIVE APPEAL TO EMOTION.

Participation Standard

There is no rigid standard for participation; this will be at the host's discretion. All players are expected to make a sincere effort to contribute to the game thread consistently enough that their content can be fairly judged. Non-participation has an adverse effect upon the balance of the game. If I decide a player is not participating enough to facilitate this balance, that player will be replaced. If a replacement cannot be found, there might be a modkill. With this in mind I reiterate: it's very important that everyone try to participate. At least a few posts per day/night cycle are a bare minimum.

Other

1.) Respect all guidelines and rules found in The Syndicate's announcements section. Above all else, treat your fellow players with respect -- this is just a game.
2.) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations.
3.) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4.) Just don't make posts when you're dead unless you have been given express permission by the host.
5.) Non-players may not post in the game thread.
6.) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic may choose to do so in {Off-Topic} Green. There's an "OT" button for this in the post editor. This is not required.
7.) If you ever have any questions about the rules, roles, or setup, please ask me privately.

Angleshooting, excessive appeal to emotion, and loopholes

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Utilize the moderators on duty.
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

A good person will follow the rules. A great person will follow himself.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm Hello friends. I love you all, and I love everything about you... equally.

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:07 pm A peaceful entrance. ~ signed, Bereft

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:09 pmOh hai fronds

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm Hello friends. I love you all, and I love everything about you... equally.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:09 pm so like is this game about that one song

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:09 pm

Dubz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:09 pmOh hai fronds

Likewise.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:11 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:09 pm so like is this game about that one song

Opener isn't as directly related to the game as their last game's opener. GTH town solely on meta.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:08 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Game rules and guidelines (note especially voting rules #2, #5, and #8, but all rules apply)

Spoiler: show

Voting and Claiming Rules

1.) Claim whatever you want if anything.
2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).
3.) Votes are changeable with no limitations.
4.) Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to vote in any phase whatsoever. There are participation standards though, which I'll cover separately.
5.) The player who has received the most votes at the deadline shall be eliminated. There is no majority hammer.
6.) In the event of a tied vote, the eliminated player shall be decided among the tied names at random.
7.) A "no elimination" option will be included each day phase. This option must lead the tally with no ties to be enacted at any time.
8.) YOU MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IN THE INTENDED SPIRIT OF MY GAME, AND IT RELATES TO RULES AGAINST EXCESSIVE APPEAL TO EMOTION.

Participation Standard

There is no rigid standard for participation; this will be at the host's discretion. All players are expected to make a sincere effort to contribute to the game thread consistently enough that their content can be fairly judged. Non-participation has an adverse effect upon the balance of the game. If I decide a player is not participating enough to facilitate this balance, that player will be replaced. If a replacement cannot be found, there might be a modkill. With this in mind I reiterate: it's very important that everyone try to participate. At least a few posts per day/night cycle are a bare minimum.

Other

1.) Respect all guidelines and rules found in The Syndicate's announcements section. Above all else, treat your fellow players with respect -- this is just a game.
2.) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations.
3.) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4.) Just don't make posts when you're dead unless you have been given express permission by the host.
5.) Non-players may not post in the game thread.
6.) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic may choose to do so in {Off-Topic} Green. There's an "OT" button for this in the post editor. This is not required.
7.) If you ever have any questions about the rules, roles, or setup, please ask me privately.

Angleshooting, excessive appeal to emotion, and loopholes

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Utilize the moderators on duty.
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

A good person will follow the rules. A great person will follow himself.

GTH town, looks like the words of someone who doesn't care how they appear

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm Hello friends. I love you all, and I love everything about you... equally.

GTH wolf, opener that says nothing but is an attempt to appear friendly

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:18 pm Also, do not expect me to be awake at deadline time every day lol. This is an anomaly.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:08 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Game rules and guidelines (note especially voting rules #2, #5, and #8, but all rules apply)

Spoiler: show

Voting and Claiming Rules

1.) Claim whatever you want if anything.
2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).
3.) Votes are changeable with no limitations.
4.) Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to vote in any phase whatsoever. There are participation standards though, which I'll cover separately.
5.) The player who has received the most votes at the deadline shall be eliminated. There is no majority hammer.
6.) In the event of a tied vote, the eliminated player shall be decided among the tied names at random.
7.) A "no elimination" option will be included each day phase. This option must lead the tally with no ties to be enacted at any time.
8.) YOU MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IN THE INTENDED SPIRIT OF MY GAME, AND IT RELATES TO RULES AGAINST EXCESSIVE APPEAL TO EMOTION.

Participation Standard

There is no rigid standard for participation; this will be at the host's discretion. All players are expected to make a sincere effort to contribute to the game thread consistently enough that their content can be fairly judged. Non-participation has an adverse effect upon the balance of the game. If I decide a player is not participating enough to facilitate this balance, that player will be replaced. If a replacement cannot be found, there might be a modkill. With this in mind I reiterate: it's very important that everyone try to participate. At least a few posts per day/night cycle are a bare minimum.

Other

1.) Respect all guidelines and rules found in The Syndicate's announcements section. Above all else, treat your fellow players with respect -- this is just a game.
2.) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations.
3.) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4.) Just don't make posts when you're dead unless you have been given express permission by the host.
5.) Non-players may not post in the game thread.
6.) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic may choose to do so in {Off-Topic} Green. There's an "OT" button for this in the post editor. This is not required.
7.) If you ever have any questions about the rules, roles, or setup, please ask me privately.

Angleshooting, excessive appeal to emotion, and loopholes

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Utilize the moderators on duty.
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

A good person will follow the rules. A great person will follow himself.

GTH town, looks like the words of someone who doesn't care how they appear

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm Hello friends. I love you all, and I love everything about you... equally.

GTH wolf, opener that says nothing but is an attempt to appear friendly

Too soon for these reads imo

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:08 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Game rules and guidelines (note especially voting rules #2, #5, and #8, but all rules apply)

Spoiler: show

Voting and Claiming Rules

1.) Claim whatever you want if anything.
2.) Votes in the poll are official, and I will only consider the poll votes when I resolve a day phase. It is still obligatory to call votes in the game thread, as the poll does not track voting order. Call your votes to make it possible to discern timing and order. This is not optional. Please call votes with the [ vote ][ /vote ] tags (no spaces).
3.) Votes are changeable with no limitations.
4.) Voting is not obligatory. There is no requirement to vote in any phase whatsoever. There are participation standards though, which I'll cover separately.
5.) The player who has received the most votes at the deadline shall be eliminated. There is no majority hammer.
6.) In the event of a tied vote, the eliminated player shall be decided among the tied names at random.
7.) A "no elimination" option will be included each day phase. This option must lead the tally with no ties to be enacted at any time.
8.) YOU MAY NOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. THIS IS NOT IN THE INTENDED SPIRIT OF MY GAME, AND IT RELATES TO RULES AGAINST EXCESSIVE APPEAL TO EMOTION.

Participation Standard

There is no rigid standard for participation; this will be at the host's discretion. All players are expected to make a sincere effort to contribute to the game thread consistently enough that their content can be fairly judged. Non-participation has an adverse effect upon the balance of the game. If I decide a player is not participating enough to facilitate this balance, that player will be replaced. If a replacement cannot be found, there might be a modkill. With this in mind I reiterate: it's very important that everyone try to participate. At least a few posts per day/night cycle are a bare minimum.

Other

1.) Respect all guidelines and rules found in The Syndicate's announcements section. Above all else, treat your fellow players with respect -- this is just a game.
2.) BTSC (behind the scenes chatter) is only permitted in host-designated locations.
3.) No editing or deleting of posts in the game thread.
4.) Just don't make posts when you're dead unless you have been given express permission by the host.
5.) Non-players may not post in the game thread.
6.) Living players wishing to discuss something off-topic may choose to do so in {Off-Topic} Green. There's an "OT" button for this in the post editor. This is not required.
7.) If you ever have any questions about the rules, roles, or setup, please ask me privately.

Angleshooting, excessive appeal to emotion, and loopholes

Don't.

We all know what the spirit of Mafia is about. So don't. If you ever think something might be cutting it close, just ask me before doing it/saying it. Thanks gang.

Examples of things that suck:
- Relying on volatile emotionality as a strategy to progress the game for yourself (or posting the same material non-strategically). Utilize the moderators on duty.
- Referencing out-of-game personal information to progress yourself in the game (regardless of alignment) -- you can mention things about life, just don't expect it to necessarily be worth added grace in the game.
- Trying to use specific wording in your role card to glean information in the thread
- Making reads or judgments about the game based upon who you see in the "Who is online" section under the thread
- Openly calling for or talking about the mafia team conceding
- Discussing anything outside the game thread that should have no bearing on it (e.g., technical quirks you observe on Discord) other than ordinary metagaming
- Plenty of other things; there are too many to list. Contact me if you're tempted but unsure or if you believe someone else has engaged in an angleshooting or appeal to emotion violation.

A good person will follow the rules. A great person will follow himself.

GTH town, looks like the words of someone who doesn't care how they appear

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:05 pm Hello friends. I love you all, and I love everything about you... equally.

GTH wolf, opener that says nothing but is an attempt to appear friendly

Too soon for these reads imo

First thought is that we shouldn't be making thoughts. GTH wolf.

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

I don't believe you

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm I mean those were NOT reads. If you want to argue that you were doing it for a reaction test, maybe I'd buy that explanation, but there's no way those reads were serious.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

I don't believe you

I don't believe those whose only activity is disparaging the activity of others.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

I don't believe you

I don't believe those whose only activity is disparaging the activity of others.

Then stick to your opinions and be wrong. Youre not solving me, either. You're just telling me I'm wolfy because I pointed out that your post was not giving real reads, and I'm pretty sure that means I'm correct.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm I mean those were NOT reads. If you want to argue that you were doing it for a reaction test, maybe I'd buy that explanation, but there's no way those reads were serious.

What about them makes them not reads? GTH reads, sure, but still reads

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm If I could, I would vote WindwardAway here

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:30 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm I mean those were NOT reads. If you want to argue that you were doing it for a reaction test, maybe I'd buy that explanation, but there's no way those reads were serious.

What about them makes them not reads? GTH reads, sure, but still reads

Doesn't matter if GTH or not. You can't seriously get reads out of two fluffposts unless the players in question are severely polarized in terms of when and how they fluffpost. I don't believe Gira is, and I would default to assuming the same for Ranmilia. There are very few players I could name who are polarized enough to mostly fluffpost as a specific alignment, and even still, they will probably make an entry fluffpost in every game, meaning their first post doesn't indicate anything.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm If I could, I would vote WindwardAway here

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:29 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

I don't believe you

I don't believe those whose only activity is disparaging the activity of others.

Then stick to your opinions and be wrong. Youre not solving me, either. You're just telling me I'm wolfy because I pointed out that your post was not giving real reads, and I'm pretty sure that means I'm correct.

Did I ever insinuate that I would stick to these reads throughout the game? You do know what "GTH" means right? This feels quite a bit jumpy to me

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:17 pm Too soon for these reads imo

sure but does it actually say anything about their alignment to you?

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

it provokes good reactions even if it's forced, so no need to interrupt it. my lean is mafia doesn't take that approach but page 1 etc

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:32 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm If I could, I would vote WindwardAway here

Yeah, but the thing is, we can't vote, for an entire day, so if y'all could hit the brakes just a little and not immediately get into spammy angry fights, that'd be wonderful. <3

There's plenty of solving going on, just have patience.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:32 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:29 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:25 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:24 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Meta-wise, idk, I've played with leetic before but don't remember if they make reads as early as in pregame.

In general, no, I don't just immediately wolfread people for doing that, but it raises some suspicion because I think wolves are more likely to find reasons to form a narrative and stick with it because they're NOT actually reading to solve.

Your argument fails, for I am the only one trying to do any sort of solving here

I don't believe you

I don't believe those whose only activity is disparaging the activity of others.

Then stick to your opinions and be wrong. Youre not solving me, either. You're just telling me I'm wolfy because I pointed out that your post was not giving real reads, and I'm pretty sure that means I'm correct.

Did I ever insinuate that I would stick to these reads throughout the game? You do know what "GTH" means right? This feels quite a bit jumpy to me

No, but I said earlier that I would keep an eye on how your reads evolve over the next few days and yet you're completely ignoring that. You're entirely focused on pushing me because I didn't like your "GTH reads" on a pair of fluffposts. It's like you've already been caught for the wrong reasons because it wasn't necessarily wolfy that you posted that, but your overdefensiveness by way of OMGUSing me is not towny.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:32 pm There's plenty of solving going on, just have patience.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:30 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:27 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:26 pm I mean those were NOT reads. If you want to argue that you were doing it for a reaction test, maybe I'd buy that explanation, but there's no way those reads were serious.

What about them makes them not reads? GTH reads, sure, but still reads

Doesn't matter if GTH or not. You can't seriously get reads out of two fluffposts unless the players in question are severely polarized in terms of when and how they fluffpost. I don't believe Gira is, and I would default to assuming the same for Ranmilia. There are very few players I could name who are polarized enough to mostly fluffpost as a specific alignment, and even still, they will probably make an entry fluffpost in every game, meaning their first post doesn't indicate anything.

These players presumably know their alignments, and that will be reflected in their posts. Do you not have to start from somewhere? What exactly are you accomplishing right now?

Gira wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:33 pm wind you're doing the thing where you reactively omgus the first person to look at you funny again, just step off it because i don't need a massive slapfight immediately on day 1