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Severance [END]
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:50 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Consciousness has merged. The severance procedure is undone. You now play together. All rules for gameplay from the previous threads still hold in this thread. You may access your previous thread (and only your previous thread) to review the rules if you need.
The Moderators on Duty remain @S~V~S and @Quin.
New Rules to Be Aware Of
1) While you may look back at your previous thread, you may NOT directly copy-paste content from that thread into this one OR directly quote posts from that thread in this one (no screenshots either). Any discussion you have about the previous thread should be paraphrased in your own words.
2) Any players who had died but were granted limited posting privileges in either prior thread may NOT post in this thread. Only fully living players may post in this thread. This is permanent.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:00 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Living Players
@Alexy - posts
@Cape90 - posts
@DrWilgy - posts
Dubz / @RondoDimBuckle - posts
@leetic - posts
@potentialsheltervet - posts
@☆Princess Abigail☆ - posts
@Ranmilia - posts
@tedxtr - posts
You're alive. Please review the new rules in the first post before proceeding.
@DarlingMonroe has been removed from the game.
You’re a severed employee working at Lumon Industries (town).
You begin the game knowing that [redacted] is also aligned with the town. You may share a separate behind-the-scenes chat space in the Discord Hub provided by the host.
@Bereft has been removed from the game.
@tutuu has been removed from the game.
You're a severed employee working at Lumon Industries (town).
You have no special abilities.
Day Five will is underway. You have 48 hours to vote someone out.
NOTE: While this is not technically an "endgame" phase in the classical sense, it is possible for the game to end this cycle. The only certain path to continuation is by voting out a mafia member.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:03 pm
by leetic
So the merge has happened. Thought the message I'd received on Discord meant I was nightkilled, but here we are.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:03 pm
by DrWilgy
Fascinating. Hello folks, how was the other side of things?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:04 pm
by leetic
Anyway, TSP is a wolf, while Bereft didn't flip (likely an ITP or a janitor kill). Everyone else who has died in the thread I'm from is town.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm
by DrWilgy
On our side Ilario and Lime Coke flipped W. Delta flipped 3p. Long Con, Porscha, Scotty flipped town. Don't think I'm missing anyone.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:06 pm
by DrWilgy
Oh, Nutella and Jack were also town. They were NK'd I think.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:06 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
What the fuck was that EOD. I am glad I passed out
Gira just flipped town and scotty is removed from the game in our thread
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
by leetic
Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
by Cape90
In our thread we killed vanilla mafia and now a mafia roleblocker along with a 3p
Alexy claims to be a 2 shot watcher claim though I dunno how much I believe that just given how many town PR have already flipped on our side so far
No other PRs to report that are alive
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:08 pm
by leetic
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm
On our side Ilario and Lime Coke flipped W. Delta flipped 3p. Long Con, Porscha, Scotty flipped town. Don't think I'm missing anyone.
Since Made flipped town, that confirms that w/t partnerships are possible. I guess I feel a little less bad for the Made mislynch since I was able to correctly identify Brad as a wolf though.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:08 pm
by DrWilgy
So, mechanically, I knew DarlingMonroe was town per Jack, but outside of that I barely kept up with mech discussion.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:09 pm
by leetic
Windward confirmed 2 shot roleblocker, roleblocked tedxtr D1 and probably roleblocked me D2. TSP was a 2-shot Bus Driver who definitely didn't target Bereft N1.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:10 pm
by leetic
Everyone else who died is either vanilla or most likely vanilla in Bereft's case as he was tracked visiting nobody N1 even if he hasn't flipped.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm
by Cape90
Scotty recently died and he was a 3-shot re-director it looks like
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).
Dont leave out the fact that neither of you have substantiated the claims. I am going to have to re-evaluate my whole perspective because that EOD was T/T and Gira was T too so wolves have to have been comfortable. Abbi's moving back and forward I dont know what to think about. But she saved my life after campaigning for me dead so either she is mega big brain pocketing me or just town
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm
by DrWilgy
9 of us remaining,
Host states untraditional endgame going on. Do we think 2-3 wolves remain?
If the subthreads were split evenly, and your side didn't see 2 wolves and a 3p does that imply a greater chance for wolf amongst y'all and a 3rd party not found?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:12 pm
by Cape90
there were 2 town roleblockers???
Long Con was a 2 shot protector/roleblocker
Seems odd they would have 2 town roleblock power things tbh
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm
by DrWilgy
Eh, perhaps assuming an even split is abit much.
If we assume an even split and 3 wolves had been found then there's 1 or 3 remaining and idk what to make of that.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm
by leetic
D1: robyn lynch, vanilla town
N1: MacDougall nightkill, vanilla town
D2: TSP lynch, wolf 2x Bus Driver
N2: Windward nightkill, 2x Roleblocker
D3: pyxxy lynch, vanilla town
N3: Bereft nightkill (presumably), ???
D4: Dizzy/Made lynch, vanilla town
N4: Gira nightkill, vanilla town
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm
by Cape90
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).
ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...
hmm
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:14 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I have added role flips to two players in the entry post. Apologies for the delay. Please refrain from discussing the delay. You may discuss the flips.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:14 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm
9 of us remaining,
Host states untraditional endgame going on. Do we think 2-3 wolves remain?
If the subthreads were split evenly, and your side didn't see 2 wolves and a 3p does that imply a greater chance for wolf amongst y'all and a 3rd party not found?
actually....
the sleep option makes me think it could be less. We have only been flipping town on our side since TSP and if youve gotten 2 and weve gotten 1, what ratio makes sense with 27 people?
wait, nvm we have been having night kills. Prob 2-3
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:15 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:12 pm
there were 2 town roleblockers???
Long Con was a 2 shot protector/roleblocker
Seems odd they would have 2 town roleblock power things tbh
That seems fairly JJJ to me
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:15 pm
by leetic
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:11 pm
9 of us remaining,
Host states untraditional endgame going on. Do we think 2-3 wolves remain?
If the subthreads were split evenly, and your side didn't see 2 wolves and a 3p does that imply a greater chance for wolf amongst y'all and a 3rd party not found?
3 most likely assuming each thread started with three. If it can end today, we're likely dealing with either killing roles in play or ITP(s) messing up the numbers.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:16 pm
by Cape90
Alexy had these notes for their watcher ability which is also 2-shot
N1 - PSY visited by Scotty
N2 - Long Con visited by no one
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:17 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Clarification: It is fine to report votes from your prior thread. Don't copy-paste or screenshot poll results, but you may compile them on your own.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
by Alexy
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting
this is a thing?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
by leetic
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:05 pm
On our side Ilario and Lime Coke flipped W. Delta flipped 3p. Long Con, Porscha, Scotty flipped town. Don't think I'm missing anyone.
Also, what kind of ITP was Delta? Brad said something about it in the other thread but I won't take his word for it
Also he said something about Bereft acting trolly and saying that Porscha was a wolf; is that true?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
by leetic
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting
this is a thing?
I can confirm this is true.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:20 pm
by Cape90
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:19 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm
Also Porscha was removed from the game last night for over posting
this is a thing?
for dead players yes, for alive players no
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:20 pm
by leetic
Anyhoo, Porscha was Abby's partner while Ranmilia is Jack's.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm
by Alexy
I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:22 pm
by leetic
Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:
RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
by DrWilgy
Here's what the polls from our side looked like. Would someone mind compiling yours and sending it?
DAY 1
Cape90: ilario
Porscha: Lime Coke, tutuu, nutella, Long Con, Cape90, potentialsheltervet
potentialsheltervet: Delta, Jackofhearts2005, Scotty
tutuu: Alexy, DarlingMonroe
DAY 2
Delta: tutuu
ilario: DrWilgy, potentialsheltervet, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005
Long Con: DarlingMonroe, Cape90, Scotty
potentialsheltervet: ilario, Delta, Lime Coke
DAY 3
Delta: Scotty, DarlingMonroe, tutuu, Cape90, Lime Coke, Alexy
DrWilgy: potentialsheltervet
Scotty: Delta, Long Con
DAY 4
Alexy: potentialsheltervet
Lime Coke: Cape90, DarlingMonroe, tutuu, DrWilgy, Scotty
Scotty: Lime Coke
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
by leetic
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm
I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:25 pm
by Cape90
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm
I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Oh yeah pyxxy said as much in our thread when he was over there
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:26 pm
by Ranmilia
well then.
what were the exact flips (don't copy paste) of illario/delta/lime coke?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Day 1 Vote:
leetic - Voters: pyxxy
robyn - Voters: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon(Made), MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr - Voters: RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote / Unvote - Voters: robyn , Bereft
Day 2 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: pyxxy
pyxxy- Voters: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime- Voters: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
Day 3 Vote:
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: pyxxy, Ranmilia
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Voters: Bereft
pyxxy- Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,Dyslexicon(Made), leetic, Gira, tedxtr
Day 4 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: tedxtr, Dyslexicon(Made), Gira
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
by Alexy
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm
I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
Are you pyxxy's partner?
Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.
pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:22 pm
Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:
RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them
This is the full list
Rondo/Abby
Rondo/Ranmilia
Rondo/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Leetic/Rondo
Leetic/ted
Leetic/Abby
Lettic/Ranmilia
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm
by Cape90
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:26 pm
well then.
what were the exact flips (don't copy paste) of illario/delta/lime coke?
ilario: vanilla mafia
Delta: 3p, seems benign?, Visually saw both threads and from each thread during their respective night phases chose an alignment and player and if they chose person/alignment 3 times they won, if they got alignment right 5 times they won, they were never a sole winner of the game. IDK what the technical term is for this sort of role
Lime Coke: 3x roleblocker mafia
Misspelling of ilario noted, have a good day
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm
I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.
So you are paired with me / made(dizzy)?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:34 pm
by leetic
D1:
leetic: pyxxy
robyn: leetic, Ranmilia, Dyslexicon, MacDougall, Gira, TonyStarkPrime, WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr: RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote/unvote: robyn, Bereft
D2:
RondoDimBuckle: TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon: pyxxy
pyxxy: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime: Bereft, RondoDimBuckle, Gira, WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
(not voting): Dyslexicon
D3:
Made: pyxxy, Ranmilia
Gira: RondoDimBuckle
☆Princess Abigail☆: Bereft
pyxxy: ☆Princess Abigail☆, Made, leetic, Gira, tedxtr
D4:
RondoDimBuckle: tedxtr, Made, Gira
Made: ☆Princess Abigail☆, RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:34 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:26 pm
well then.
what were the exact flips (don't copy paste) of illario/delta/lime coke?
ilario: vanilla mafia
Delta: 3p, seems benign?, Visually saw both threads and from each thread during their respective night phases chose an alignment and player and if they chose person/alignment 3 times they won, if they got alignment right 5 times they won, they were never a sole winner of the game. IDK what the technical term is for this sort of role
Lime Coke: 3x roleblocker mafia
Misspelling of ilario noted, have a good day
Did Bereft make it to your thread, was he 3p?
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:35 pm
by leetic
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:22 pm
Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:
RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them
This is the full list
Rondo/Abby
Rondo/Ranmilia
Rondo/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Leetic/Rondo
Leetic/ted
Leetic/Abby
Lettic/Ranmilia
I know any pairings with me in them are bullshit.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:35 pm
by leetic
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
Day 1 Vote:
leetic - Voters:
pyxxy
robyn - Voters: leetic, Ranmilia,
Dyslexicon(Made),
MacDougall,
Gira,
TonyStarkPrime,
WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr - Voters:
RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote / Unvote - Voters:
robyn ,
Bereft
Day 2 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters:
TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters:
pyxxy
pyxxy- Voters: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime- Voters:
Bereft,
RondoDimBuckle,
Gira,
WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
Day 3 Vote:
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters:
pyxxy, Ranmilia
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Voters:
Bereft
pyxxy- Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,
Dyslexicon(Made), leetic,
Gira, tedxtr
Day 4 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: tedxtr,
Dyslexicon(Made),
Gira
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,
RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia
Seems I was beaten to the punch. Classy, coloring yourself in as green.
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:36 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:32 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:22 pm
Anyway, if there were two remaining wolves in my thread one of these combinations must be true:
RDB/Abby
RDB/Ranmilia
RDB/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Sadly I can't analyze their ISOs as easily without being able to quote them
This is the full list
Rondo/Abby
Rondo/Ranmilia
Rondo/tedxtr
Abby/Ranmilia
Abby/tedxtr
Ranmilia/tedxtr
Leetic/Rondo
Leetic/ted
Leetic/Abby
Lettic/Ranmilia
I know any pairings with me in them are bullshit.
Same but for the same reason you just changed my vote analys I added these. Because thats your perspective
Re: Severance [Day Five]
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:36 pm
by RondoDimBuckle
leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm
Day 1 Vote:
leetic - Voters:
pyxxy
robyn - Voters: leetic, Ranmilia,
Dyslexicon(Made),
MacDougall,
Gira,
TonyStarkPrime,
WindwardAway, tedxtr
tedxtr - Voters:
RondoDimBuckle, ☆Princess Abigail☆
No vote / Unvote - Voters:
robyn ,
Bereft
Day 2 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters:
TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters:
pyxxy
pyxxy- Voters: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆
TonyStarkPrime- Voters:
Bereft,
RondoDimBuckle,
Gira,
WindwardAway, leetic, Ranmilia
Day 3 Vote:
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters:
pyxxy, Ranmilia
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Voters:
Bereft
pyxxy- Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,
Dyslexicon(Made), leetic,
Gira, tedxtr
Day 4 Vote:
RondoDimBuckle- Voters: tedxtr,
Dyslexicon(Made),
Gira
Dyslexicon(Made) - Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆,
RondoDimBuckle, leetic, Ranmilia
Seems I was beaten to the punch. Classy, coloring yourself in as green.
lol cross post.