Game of Champions XIII [Night 0]

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So why would she hint at it here?

Because it was a genuine thought. She genuinely did intend to remind Caitlin the game started, for completely innocuous reasons. That thought slipped out because it was an honest thought with no malicious intent. It's no different from saying "alright guys I'm going out for dinner, see you all later" in her mind. Scum say things like that all the time, it's just a part of normal posting/interaction. The slip was that she didn't realize the thought wouldn't materialize if she was town, and even if it did, she would react to me calling it out far less weirdly.

For example I think that town Abigail who actually didn't know it was a rule would just say "oh my bad I didn't know it was a rule" instead of saying my post is stupid and not a big deal. It's a very defensive reaction.

This is absurd lol. Of course scum abi wouldn't slip that, it's clear she genuinely thought it was ok and genuinely thinks it's a dumb rule, she's misguided about it and separately she can be scum but unrelated to any of this, this is just a silly line to pursue

Thank you...

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Also sig is like 100% lock town btw lol

Correct!

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I don't get why everyone expects me to have a ton of town reads n0

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm trying to town core less and be smarter with it and just like I do not see the content that I should be town locking

[nutella]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Well so do I

[Delta]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @Caitlin

As v/v do you guys tend to find each other easily or clash?

[nutella]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Rare good post from Guillotine in this thread. "Interesting" tells us nothing, give us actual thoughts please

I think the pushes are largely for bad reasons but possibly some are correct and I haven't sorted out which yet. There is some unpairing to take away from the interactions but I do not have solid conclusions. You're welcome

[Delta]

Off the top of my head I think Cape is fine, Nutella is fine, Guillo is probably? fine, Sabi mindmelded a lil earlier so some points there too.

Aside from that names feel kinda static-y to me, not huge on Leetic's entrance since it's very different to what I've seen of v!them, working from there \o/

[nutella]

Again with Gullio attempting to link people as not being mafia, it’s too early to do this and in the long term it’ll hurt town.

It’s the same thing as trying to build a town core too early and then refusing to consider you’re wrong about said core.

Having said that I’m not sure if this is scummy or not.

My knee jerk reaction is that it's against his town meta, which is the opposite (extreme paranoia and blind tunnelling of people he suspects). But I think he might actually be more likely to make a switch like that as town instead of mafia. That is, I feel like the big reversal into being overly-trusting of people or overly-willing to clear them is more likely to be motivated by "hey the blind paranoia thing didn't work the last few games, maybe I should try something new" instead of "surely this will fool everyone into thinking I am town".

Disagree

what exactly do you disagree on?

I don't think you have the inclination to make such an intentional change in approaches to reads as Alison is suggesting

She actually hit it spot on.

It was like how can someone I barely play with know the current me so well?

I play a champions game different than regular games.

Alright then

[nutella]

Leetic coming off as lamist complaining about lack of game content but not actually answering the question. Giving scum pings due to unable to be comfortable in thread

Shrugze.

"LAMIST" is the dumbest "tell" ever, as if people who roll town don't know their alignment

Yet all you have done is bellyache about content without being the change you seek in the world and also not explaining the few things you thought was game related content.

Soooooo am I wrong?

Also frozen wolves that don't feel comfy do tend to overly critique the post type of rvs stage since they are unable to justify their tmi when trying to make game related content.

This @leetic

You critiqued rvs without making a push to create reads either

So? It's not like there was much of substance anyway. Maybe if I'd had more time I would find more to push on, but keeping track of 30 people posting basically nothing is a bit above my paygrade at the moment. Besides, that "observation" came from the one person I actually (lightly) pushed.

Ok, now that there has been more content where are your reads at?

[leetic]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Rare good post from Guillotine in this thread. "Interesting" tells us nothing, give us actual thoughts please

I think the pushes are largely for bad reasons but possibly some are correct and I haven't sorted out which yet. There is some unpairing to take away from the interactions but I do not have solid conclusions. You're welcome

Instead of one word to say nothing, you have three sentences that say nothing! Novel

[nutella]

I'm trying to town core less and be smarter with it and just like I do not see the content that I should be town locking

Ok tbh I relate to this lol

[leetic]

Have caught up \o/ main thing that stuck out to me:

@leetic

In Beans Mafia, you had me making GtH reads on people regardless of what they posted, even in an introduction stage like this. Checking back it was like . A few posts in you asked for GtH on what people had said so far?

What sets this game apart so that what people have posted isnt useful compared to Beans where it didn't matter what people had posted, you could still make some reads? ?_?

My schedule now isn't as free as it was during that game. Once I have access to my laptop though, I may give a GTH to everyone that has posted

Ehh
Thing is it's not really an issue of time there? Because it was within the first page you were asking for GtH reads, here you instead opted to criticize what was posted instead. I can understand like 'hey I want more content please' but your response doesnt really answer what I asked to begin with

Number one, I don't do that every game (see mafia.gg role madness as an example) two there are thirty fucking people here and that takes a lot of mental effort. My schedule might clear up a bit in a few days but for now I'll contribute how I can.

[nutella]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Rare good post from Guillotine in this thread. "Interesting" tells us nothing, give us actual thoughts please

I think the pushes are largely for bad reasons but possibly some are correct and I haven't sorted out which yet. There is some unpairing to take away from the interactions but I do not have solid conclusions. You're welcome

Instead of one word to say nothing, you have three sentences that say nothing! Novel

r/wooosh

Exactly my point buddy. It's too early to draw strong conclusions from the interactions but they are still worth noting.

[nutella]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

[leetic]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Rare good post from Guillotine in this thread. "Interesting" tells us nothing, give us actual thoughts please

I think the pushes are largely for bad reasons but possibly some are correct and I haven't sorted out which yet. There is some unpairing to take away from the interactions but I do not have solid conclusions. You're welcome

Instead of one word to say nothing, you have three sentences that say nothing! Novel

r/wooosh

Exactly my point buddy. It's too early to draw strong conclusions from the interactions but they are still worth noting.

At least give me a GTH or something, come on "possibly some are correct" So they may be right or wrong, wow takes a genius to figure that one out! At least tell me what makes them "possibly" correct, do you think someone might be onto something or is it just a lame statistical statement?

[leetic]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

[Spacedaisy]

@Scotty @S~V~S Can we get linki to player posts on the front page by any chance?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @Caitlin

As v/v do you guys tend to find each other easily or clash?

I think we find each other usually but we rarely agree

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Completely

[Master Radishes]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

You have my sword.

[nutella]

Interesting web of pushes btwn Guillo -> Caitlin, Caitlin -> Abigail, Alison -> Abigail

what is interesting about it?

you know scum loves the word "interesting" a lot right?

Rare good post from Guillotine in this thread. "Interesting" tells us nothing, give us actual thoughts please

I think the pushes are largely for bad reasons but possibly some are correct and I haven't sorted out which yet. There is some unpairing to take away from the interactions but I do not have solid conclusions. You're welcome

Instead of one word to say nothing, you have three sentences that say nothing! Novel

r/wooosh

Exactly my point buddy. It's too early to draw strong conclusions from the interactions but they are still worth noting.

At least give me a GTH or something, come on "possibly some are correct" So they may be right or wrong, wow takes a genius to figure that one out! At least tell me what makes them "possibly" correct, do you think someone might be onto something or is it just a lame statistical statement?

I gave snap takes earlier that have been shifting a bit but current slight leans are guillo and abi wolf, alison and cait town, i might be swapping back again on abi/cait though.

alison's push is ridiculous as has been discussed already
cait has a little more reason on abi but i liked abi's response too
guillo ehh idk

[nutella]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

or I have thoughts that I cannot articulate well which is true like all the time and you can accept that or you can choose to continue giving off gross lesswronger vibes

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

or I have thoughts that I cannot articulate well which is true like all the time and you can accept that or you can choose to continue giving off gross lesswronger vibes

What are lesswronger vibes

[pyxxy]

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[nutella]

nanook out of nowhere

don't worry about it let's move on from that

[Spacedaisy]

I'm here, but I do not have the energy to keep up with over posting, so I'll read what I read and do my best with what I can. :P

That's alright

Just do what you can and pls gib reads

I had time to catch up this time. And so far I don't think Abigail looks suspicious for her statement. That would be a ridiculously stupid slip.

I'm thinking at the OGI rules. They are made with the purpose to keep the game inside the thread and allowed BTSC.
Now that Alison explains her push because of Abigail's possible slip it makes more sense.
I will sleep on it and reread in the morning.

I don't like this post. ^ So I went and ISOed Michelle and found that they were asking questions and not offering a lot of their own thoughts. I'm not sure how I feel about it in connection with the one slight opinion they expressed regarding Alison's case.

Reads right now?

Slight town on Guillo and nut for content in their posts
Slight town on WWA and Sabi for nebulous vibes reasons
Wary of Michelle
Null on Caitlin, Abi, Alison
Mikami - Rico

I'm out to play some board games with friends now. Catch you guys tomorrow probably.

[leetic]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

or I have thoughts that I cannot articulate well which is true like all the time and you can accept that or you can choose to continue giving off gross lesswronger vibes

No one's forcing you to comment on things that you don't have real thoughts on. Maybe consider that?

[nutella]

I am.

[nutella]

I can comment on whatever I want lol

[nutella]

Why are you mad that I'm making posts in the game? Is it harshing your vibe?

[Porscha]

Porscha townie too and that person with the very short name and the yellow pfp wolfy

Sig is the one I meant!

Yellow enough.

I only agree with this if yellow is good, otherwise NO YOU

Um... The post calls you wolfy...

Ooo well no you

Sig can go in my town core

As you mason buddy I request you re evaluate this choice in your free time

[RondoDimBuckle]

I have a great role

Alison not claiming Gambit Demon in the GoC.

You think Gambit Demon isn't a great role?

You’re not explicitly claiming it.

It's against the rules to?

[Porscha]

@Alison

Youve lost your touch

I am requesting protective on me tonight

Im vigging the fuck out of alison

[Seanzie]

I'm still in retirement. I will slank. I still don't enjoy mafia.

This is it.

So did someone force you to sign up for the game at gunpoint or are you just making decisions that hurt both you and the rest of the game for no coherent reason?

I like Alison, sooooo LAMIST

Neither Sabi or Alison was being LAMIST there at all?

Moreso 'Look At Me I'm So Hostile'?

Im not judging the message not the delivery. Hostility for Alison is not alignment indicative.
She getting baited by sabi is,

hostility in general is not AI for her, but the type of hostility she is displaying is. She isn't hunting, she's disrupting.

I caught 3 wolves man not sure what else you want

Four wolves!

[Sabiplz]

Lletic is so wolfy omg

[Sabiplz]

I'm not sober but if we don't D1 leetic I will be so upset because this is easy obv wolf kill.

[Sabiplz]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

or I have thoughts that I cannot articulate well which is true like all the time and you can accept that or you can choose to continue giving off gross lesswronger vibes

No one's forcing you to comment on things that you don't have real thoughts on. Maybe consider that?

Bro why are you allergic to Gane related reads when you had no issues criticong it.... Are you frozen.....

[Sabiplz]

His is not seeing obv leetic

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

Interesting

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Porscha townie too and that person with the very short name and the yellow pfp wolfy

Sig is the one I meant!

Yellow enough.

I only agree with this if yellow is good, otherwise NO YOU

Um... The post calls you wolfy...

Ooo well no you

Sig can go in my town core

As you mason buddy I request you re evaluate this choice in your free time

Hmm why?

[Caitlin]

@Alison

Youve lost your touch

I am requesting protective on me tonight

Im vigging the fuck out of alison

Um

Claiming isnt allowed

Hopefully the hosts forgive thia

[Porscha]

@Alison

Youve lost your touch

I am requesting protective on me tonight

Im vigging the fuck out of alison

Um

Claiming isnt allowed

Hopefully the hosts forgive thia

Im not role claiming

[Porscha]

Sig is the one I meant!

Yellow enough.

I only agree with this if yellow is good, otherwise NO YOU

Um... The post calls you wolfy...

Ooo well no you

Sig can go in my town core

As you mason buddy I request you re evaluate this choice in your free time

Hmm why?

Sig is like lhf most games i see him in because he mega low posts and the 3 posts he has are pushable or very shrug yeetable, but he has just been like. Pretty wolfy despite having more posts today than multiple games i have seen him in combined

[Porscha]

Listen i could be wrong on sig but p#366 is only a good post from cait if sig specifically is the wolf that caitlin sees

Nutella lock towning hin 100% gave me whiplash

[Porscha]

Also im hard masoning with guillo, do with that what you will

[Porscha]

Wolves (probably) wont actually kill me tonight, they'll just like roleblock me or something and see how pushable the lack of kill on alison can be

So dont let it be pushable

Thanks in advance!

[Delta]

@☆Princess Abigail☆ @Caitlin

As v/v do you guys tend to find each other easily or clash?

I think we find each other usually but we rarely agree

noted \o/ will keep in mind

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Listen i could be wrong on sig but p#366 is only a good post from cait if sig specifically is the wolf that caitlin sees

Nutella lock towning hin 100% gave me whiplash

Maybe but my snap reads are so good usually ;-;

[leetic]

"Interesting" is not a meaningless word, I will defend it forever

It is meaningless. If you feel the need to comment on something, then it goes without saying that you found it "interesting". Saying something is "interesting" only shows that you noticed it, not that you have any actual thoughts on it

or I have thoughts that I cannot articulate well which is true like all the time and you can accept that or you can choose to continue giving off gross lesswronger vibes

No one's forcing you to comment on things that you don't have real thoughts on. Maybe consider that?

Bro why are you allergic to Gane related reads when you had no issues criticong it.... Are you frozen.....

The word "reads" has a different meaning to what you seem to think it is