The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:22 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:06 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:33 pm Has nobody stopped to consider that scum falcon killing players who SR him is about as subtle as a brick?







Fur reelz, I have way more panache than that

Ugh I hate that I town read this

Unvote

If it's multiball, then the kill may not have come from him.

To be fair, if it's multiball, then Caitlin dying early to nightkill doesn't clear you either.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:54 am Windward is probably the only person, out of everyone on that wagon, who has actually tried to interact with me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:05 pm @Lemonfairy for when you return to the thread: I see very few reads in any of your posts. Your focus in this thread has primarily been on your early voters, sans me. I would like to know how you feel about various other people in this game, even if you are just rehashing points from your old thread.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:24 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:58 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood

Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

I'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.

Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?

I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all together

I think Falc is a major wagon and I have to decide if I'm to vote. Should I not at least voice my opinion on the slot as that actually exists to an extent?

Plus Falc was one of the few players that I reviewed previously around d1.

Why exactly is this terrible that being the case?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:58 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood

Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

I can't force you to see things from my point of view, I feel I'm obv town









I'm the towniest town who's ever towned!








Maybe I'm having a bad game? But!








Has anyone ever considered that maybe I'm having a great game?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:31 pm Anyway, NANOOK looks, if not quite as lame as in Beans, still a bit weak? It seems like he's moving between suspicions based more on thread atmosphere than anything else, aside from the Dyslexicon vote that they didn't really seem to do anything with? The other people from the other thread who have done at least a decent amount look fine for now. Not sure why Lemonfairy caught fire the way they did, sure their contributions in this thread have not been especially impressive but they're far from the only person I can say that of.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:34 am I didn't really think of it like that
isn't that a kind of easy thing for scum to fake, though?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:29 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:24 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:35 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:58 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm I have 6 votes?





That's a lot, eh?

That's what I'm saying!

There shouldn't be 6 votes on me right now






I'm literally towning my ass off, it's just misunderstood

Eh. There was no townspewing from you from the N0 thread.

It's odd that in your posts here so far, you've brought nothing from the other thread nor do I see an explicit interest in the one you weren't in.

You're normally good about showing your within your townrange when you are town, where is that m8?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:36 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

I'm good at reading Falcon, but I don't think this is townspewed Falc.

Who from y'alls thread who claimed to tr falcon that died?

I think both of these pushes on falcon kinda look terrible, esp since wilgy and falcon haven't seen most of one another's messages since they were in different threads most of the game all together

I think Falc is a major wagon and I have to decide if I'm to vote. Should I not at least voice my opinion on the slot as that actually exists to an extent?

Plus Falc was one of the few players that I reviewed previously around d1.

Why exactly is this terrible that being the case?

I don't really get why you seem to put this expectation that falcon should have threadspewed themselves as town immediately into night 0.

Does falcon usually do so from your experiance?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:07 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:04 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:21 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

...so by "mafia-oriented", I thought you meant "wolf team oriented", but you meant "game-oriented"?

No, I mean the former. Your initial assumption was correct.

Ok, so you're saying that acting reactively isn't something mafia-falcon would do, because he's streetwise enough... but town-falcon would act that way? Or that town-falcon doesn't care as much about defending themselves?

What falcon is doing is a dead-end street. Nobody buys "I'm literally towning my ass off."

What mafia says that shit?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:24 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:11 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:57 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:56 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:32 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:26 pm all of the people who claim to be good at reading falcon, dead and alive, think falcon is town

These people could all be overestimating their own abilities.

I'd personally love to know who these people are

You're one of them.

I rescinded cause Caitlin than rescinded my rescind cause me again

Vote: DM

Using the vote button makes your vote POP when scrolling through the thread or your ISO. I personally think that's civic-minded and generally helpful.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:06 am I'd beg people to get off falcon but my thoughts on falcon are confusing and jumbled and I don't want to hurt town by pulling votes off a wolf if I'm wrong ugh


That said I'm rarely wrong on falcon. But Caitlin got me doubting myself...

Delta wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 9:39 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:06 am I'd beg people to get off falcon but my thoughts on falcon are confusing and jumbled and I don't want to hurt town by pulling votes off a wolf if I'm wrong ugh


That said I'm rarely wrong on falcon. But Caitlin got me doubting myself...

What got you to your v!Falcon read to begin with?

I had something similar to this yesterday with people pushing Porscha ;_; so at least let's run through why you townread him to begin with and work from there? If you're rarely wrong on him, walk me through how you read him to begin with?

\o/

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:51 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:34 am I didn't really think of it like that
isn't that a kind of easy thing for scum to fake, though?

I could see where you are coming from, just read like 5 posts above this one you just posted and you will see that i am right and you are wrong and haha or something

also i mentioned in a previous post a post where lemon literally was like "I could be a good shrugyeet candidate"

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:53 am legit dunno how people push lemon when imo they have put in a good deal of effort sorting people out despite post count

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:06 am All the DM voters are players that weren't in the same thread as them.

Wild.

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:34 am Weekend laze tis real and hit hard. I wanted nothing but study and sleep and cats and muvis tbh.

Hi ho.

Caught up to page 7 in the last hour. Gonna find another hour, later, to read the rest.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:30 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:34 am Weekend laze tis real and hit hard. I wanted nothing but study and sleep and cats and muvis tbh.

Hi ho.

Caught up to page 7 in the last hour. Gonna find another hour, later, to read the rest.

@Ricochet i know it's been a while since you last popped in, but when you catch up, I'd like to hear your take on the current wagons.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:30 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 5:34 am Weekend laze tis real and hit hard. I wanted nothing but study and sleep and cats and muvis tbh.

Hi ho.

Caught up to page 7 in the last hour. Gonna find another hour, later, to read the rest.

@Ricochet i know it's been a while since you last popped in, but when you catch up, I'd like to hear your take on the current wagons.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 3:32 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:33 pmInstead, falcon is behaving in a reactive manner that I think gives an indication that for him isn't mafia-oriented.

What makes you think that?

He's making a claim that obviously isn't true. Nobody is going to buy it. Nobody is buying it.

I think falcon is streetwise enough to know that he's got to get something going to stay alive when he's got this many votes.

Calling you and me his only civilians isn't going to get the job done.

All this you/falcon talk is kinda screaming w/w to me

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:06 am All the DM voters are players that weren't in the same thread as them.

Wild.

I voted DM earlier today but decided I was more interested in other wagons
Because I feel like I don't have as strong of a take on DM

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 12:15 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:06 am All the DM voters are players that weren't in the same thread as them.

Wild.

I voted DM earlier today but decided I was more interested in other wagons
Because I feel like I don't have as strong of a take on DM

Aye, I just don't think it's a good choice as it stands, maybe if the activity level stays this way it would be later, but DM feels like they can townspew and they ALMOST did that within our thread.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:28 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:29 am lmfao why does @Epignosis have a vote on me when I haven't posted? #obsessedmuch

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am Epi is giving very much wolf. Delta also pings. Not sure how to feel about this lemon wagon. I'd rather no.

Could be down to vote Epi, though. Oh and Wilgy too.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am [VOTE: vote: epignosis ] aubergine just to return the favor

:*

I cast a vote.

DarlingMonroe criticizes me for casting the vote before DarlingMonroe posted anything and calls me obsessed.

"Epi bad, Delta maybe, iffy on Lemon but don't vote there."

Then "Could be down to vote Epi."

Isn't that part and parcel to "Epi is giving very much wolf?" Does it need to be stated a second time?

"Oh and Wilgy too."



Then I get voted anyway.

The timestamps here are back-to-back-to-back, and this indicates that DarlingMonroe has not read my own posts to see if I've said anything.

The lack of posting since then is indicative of another lazy ass mafia member who can't compete in the Game of Champions.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:28 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:29 am lmfao why does @Epignosis have a vote on me when I haven't posted? #obsessedmuch

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am Epi is giving very much wolf. Delta also pings. Not sure how to feel about this lemon wagon. I'd rather no.

Could be down to vote Epi, though. Oh and Wilgy too.

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 4:31 am [VOTE: vote: epignosis ] aubergine just to return the favor

:*

I cast a vote.

DarlingMonroe criticizes me for casting the vote before DarlingMonroe posted anything and calls me obsessed.

"Epi bad, Delta maybe, iffy on Lemon but don't vote there."

Then "Could be down to vote Epi."

Isn't that part and parcel to "Epi is giving very much wolf?" Does it need to be stated a second time?

"Oh and Wilgy too."



Then I get voted anyway.

The timestamps here are back-to-back-to-back, and this indicates that DarlingMonroe has not read my own posts to see if I've said anything.

The lack of posting since then is indicative of another lazy ass mafia member who can't compete in the Game of Champions.

youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:00 am

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:16 pm Out of the other thread players so far, I feel most comfortable calling Cape90/Dyslexicon town. I dont think I can put that into words more than just 'They seem alright.' Would like to know if that's a sentiment shared with those who were in their thread these last few days though.

To a more technical extent, Nutella/MasterRadishes join that list since I dont think the haiku restriction would come from town, even if just because it seems so inconvenient for town to apply to someone, and what they have given so far doesn't feel scummy enough to warrant being restricted by town to begin with.

This is the first time I disagree with the puppy

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:10 pm So I'll work my way from the wagons to others, within my capability.

Wagons

Overall, I'd favor a falcon lynch over a Lemon or Monroe one. Grouping bias is a factor, cuz I've played and judged falcon down in West, whereas I know less on why the other two are wolfread or didn't catch all the details from others' cases.

Between Lemon and Monroe, I'd place Monroe within question marks, both in regards to why they've become a D3 wagon and what they've done in response.

So, falcon > Monroe > Lemon

falcon

West - pyxxy connection: none that could have been established, because they interacted with / mentioned each other a total of zero times
West D1-D2 judgement: ended D2 with a low opinion on him and down on my would-vote list; excluding pyxxy connections I considered (Porscha, Delta), he was the lowest ranked de facto. West gameplay resembled current gameplay: brief intervals of engagement, much of which was spent prodding others (with a degree of randomness, never focused) or reactive-toned defending when voted/wagoned
D3 judgement:
-- pretty much the same, tone and grasp of play have not improved.
-- noted him hitting back in rebuttal form at most of his wagoners (Sloonei's characterisations, calling MRadishes opportunistic, bark back at nutella), plus placing three others (leetic, sig, Abigail) within wolf pairings with no reasoning. so pretty much a kind of "you're all bad" howl.
-- parked defense into two main ideas: that the Western nightkills are a frame and that he is towning like mad and we fail to see it. Former boils down to wifom, as leetic also said; latter is not something I can agree with, based on what I've judged. I've read or remember no strong meta read from others on this gameplay, as it stands, being town!falcon indicative
-- meanwhile, withheld to offer townreads (apart from not wanting to vote LC and Epignosis).
-- of his votes, Abigail and Monroe were/are without discernible cause. Monroe isn't even the counterwagon to self-pres on, at the moment

Monroe
D3 judgement: only 3 posts, of which their essence is an aggro response and vote on Epignosis (for their vote / case on them); other reads (Delta ping, wouldn't wagon Lemon) all vague. It doesn't look great, of course, to drop and omgus upon the very first interaction with a player from the other group. But also not the deepest material to make a solid case out of. Hence the question mark status.

Lemon
D3 judgement: I'd structure 3 phases, thus far, of activity.
-- first phase (posts 1-3) in which she mentioned postponing activity and also a statement on the merger being a sensible disorienting moment. I think some wagoned her starting for as little as this and, without proper context if this would classify as a pattern from wolf!lemon (that I can remember), I felt it was undeserved.
-- second phase (pre legacy post), with a first wave of rebuttals (at nutella and Windward). something about wanting to sit more on it. at worst, could display nerviness in face of pressure.
-- third phase (the legacy post): quite a shift from small bites to extensive reads. rebuttal-wise, argues more than the cases on her are not solid or convincing, then also tiers the wagoners based on individual performance. if this alone (or more of this throughout D3), without suss pressure, would have been Lemon's activity, I'd probably read it well. given suss and wagon pressure, I am missing meta info on whether Lemon would as to go steroids, from feeble to opinionated, as wolf. also, a bit funny to have labeled it as "legacy", as if the lynch is a done deal.

tldr: falcon suss (with no prevailing meta info that he towns this way), Monroe who knows (startled by bad form, but tis all so far), lemon no real ping on her elaborate reply

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm
youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:49 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm
youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

I made a nearly identical post to Epi's immediately before he posted it. Do you have anything to say about that?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:43 pm Falcon said Epi and LC were his townreads.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:14 pm
I I do have a couple TRs from the West but my mom is largely a fictional character in this narrative

I'm not voting LC or Epi

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:49 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:16 pm
youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

I made a nearly identical post to Epi's immediately before he posted it. Do you have anything to say about that?

I do.

youre not very fun to play with... and your reads have always been awful

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:06 am All the DM voters are players that weren't in the same thread as them.

Wild.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:43 pm Falcon said Epi and LC were his townreads.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2024 1:17 pm Both those statements are categorically false.