Kagemusha (ENDGAME)

[Epignosis]

Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.

What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.

What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?

I don't actually know if you want them to unvote me. Am I a civilian?

[Epignosis]

Well, is he even here?

He's been around most of the day phase since I accumulated three votes.

Logged in =/= "around"

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Well, is he even here?

He's been around most of the day phase since I accumulated three votes.

Logged in =/= "around"

I don't mean that. I mean you've made posts during that period.

[Epignosis]

Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.

What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?

I don't actually know if you want them to unvote me. Am I a civilian?

I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.

[falcon45ca]

Ah, well you've said it about myself in a game we played together last year

Do you now feel it's an inaccurate description of how I play?

I'm sure you do that sometimes. Everyone does that sometimes.

Why are you voting for me?

I think you're Maf

You talk about a stranglehold on the thread...what does that mean?

Does it mean you'd have near or over 200 posts by D2? Cuz that's what's happened

What I mean is that I would have zero votes on me, because I'd be adhering to everyone's generic cookie cutter impression of my "meta" by being assertive, making cases, being extensively analytical all game instead of just today, and I would have achieved this with fewer than 200 posts. I would exhibit no turbulence. I would be a beacon of self-assurance and strategic soundness. People would look up to me instead of telling me that they don't believe in my methods. People would find warmth under my gaze instead of saying I'm "demotivated".

That's all so damned easy in a game like this. I could do it with my eyes closed. I have many times.

If I am a goofy floppy mess, it's because I am not in control and cannot take it by force. That only comes from my civilian body. This is complete truth, but nobody I know nobody cares. WIFOM is too scary, and we don't have the courage to acknowledge that it's probably legitimate.

You've made many reads based off meta, and I asked you about that earlier




Now you're referring to your own meta and asking us to read you based off it





I recall a game you were scum in last year, and I sussed you due to your milquetoast posting






You're doing the same thing this game as well






You're the flavour of whoever is currently sitting at the table, you have no spice of your own

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.

You're not responsible for other people's votes. You are responsible for what you do and do not say. Anyway you're not dying today so whatever.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

You've made many reads based off meta, and I asked you about that earlier

Now you're referring to your own meta and asking us to read you based off it

I recall a game you were scum in last year, and I sussed you due to your milquetoast posting

You're doing the same thing this game as well

You're the flavour of whoever is currently sitting at the table, you have no spice of your own

I'm not asking anyone to read me based on my own self-assessment. I know that's pointless. But it feels good to tell the truth even when it falls on deaf ears. I have absolutely not been milquetoast in this game. I have been turbulent and irritable, yes, but not milquetoast.

[DrWilgy]

If I am dead, I want to know everyone's plans of action moving forward.

We're not going to fart around while I watch from the grave. What's next? Plan ahead starting immediately.

Kill a slankers in effort to prep for best possible lylo.

If slankers is hit, proceed with assoc.

If slankers not it, cry.

[Epignosis]

I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.

You're not responsible for other people's votes. You are responsible for what you do and do not say. Anyway you're not dying today so whatever.

I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.

[Long Con]

His Meta read on me was accurate.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.

I don't care about logged in or logged out. I am not going to go there.

A simple "Abigail is a much more sensible elimination than JJJ" goes a long way if that's your belief. You may genuinely believe that placing the vote alone is sufficient to convey that message, and maybe it is. But I am tasked with assessing you as I am anyone else, and that includes assessing your apparent investment (or non) in what happens at today's deadline.

[Epignosis]

I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.

I don't care about logged in or logged out. I am not going to go there.

A simple "Abigail is a much more sensible elimination than JJJ" goes a long way if that's your belief. You may genuinely believe that placing the vote alone is sufficient to convey that message, and maybe it is. But I am tasked with assessing you as I am anyone else, and that includes assessing your apparent investment (or non) in what happens at today's deadline.

Assess all you like.

I'm assessing my bank account right now, and that's more important than worrying about what happens to you in a game of mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

In case I am unclear in my narcissistic brags: I don't mean I would have a stranglehold over ANY game if I was mafia. Sometimes I lay eggs, but that has only happened in highly active threads with super-effortful civilians (e.g., Mountain Mafia or Philosophy 2). I don't think I have ever lost a game as mafia in a low-activity thread. Those games allow me to utterly dictate terms. I become god-emperor.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If Abigail Sophia is mafia, I think the only bad teammate fit on the board is Epignosis. Everyone else is basically compatible, POE or not.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would love to see falcon and Long Con interact more with one another, because they occupy similar spaces in my mind.

If I want, I could easily devise a case against them, because they're not overtly town in most regards. However, in response to pressure, each one has kinda looked like their ordinary town game. If they're both town, then that suggests someone is pulling the wool. So don't be complacent with the poop-tier reads we've been trying to work with to this point. It's all been barrell-scraped and shouldn't be trusted. Start over if you have to.

If Abigail Sophia is mafia, there's still room for a little status quo. Even then though, it's precarious. LoRab?

If Abigail Sophia is town, the game is bung. You're likely looking at mafia that are under no pressure today.

[DrWilgy]

Proposition

[VOTE: Falc] aubergine

[Long Con]

But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd vote falcon if forced to do so. I would place such a vote with a confidence level amounting to "bleh".

[LoRab]

Been reading but not posting over dinner. I’m not seeing bad Jjj. Moving to Abigail Sofia to break the tie. Don’t really have strong opinion of her, but epi has suspected her, and I have no reason to think she is civ.

[VOTE: AS] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.

Certainly could be. She should try to Let It Go.

[DrWilgy]

I mean, I'm not leaving it a tie.

I'm at Abigail > Falc > Jay

Moving from Abigail to Falc still satisfies tie condition, but doesn't send the preferred

[Long Con]

But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.

Certainly could be. She should try to Let It Go.

Ok, good enough for me. You are free.

[VOTE: Abigail sophia ] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Please forgive my hubris late this phase, friends. While it was honest, it's still annoying to listen to some idiot on a forum talk about how great he'd be if X or Y or Z. Can it, Jay.

[Long Con]

I mean, I'm not leaving it a tie.

I'm at Abigail > Falc > Jay

Moving from Abigail to Falc still satisfies tie condition, but doesn't send the preferred

You are no longer responsible.

[Long Con]

Please forgive my hubris late this phase, friends. While it was honest, it's still annoying to listen to some idiot on a forum talk about how great he'd be if X or Y or Z. Can it, Jay.

I enjoyed it.

[DrWilgy]

Mmmm good

[JaggedJimmyJay]

One day I hope to visit the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. The Byzantines were so neat.

[TonyStarkPrime]

smh really wanna vote jay

[JaggedJimmyJay]

smh really wanna vote jay

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[Long Con]

Go for it, there's room.

[TonyStarkPrime]

this isn't a wolf flip

[TonyStarkPrime]

i kinda started it didn't i

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If not her, I am quite stumped.

[Long Con]

Probably not.

[Long Con]

Probably because it feels so much like the first limp-ass one ,as I said earlier.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Review my latest analyses for legacy.

[TonyStarkPrime]

also could be a pr flip

[TonyStarkPrime]

when does day end

[TonyStarkPrime]

oh shit

[leetic]

Phase locked

[DrWilgy]

oh shit

Mmmm yes

[leetic]

@falcon45ca
@Epignosis
@DrWilgy
@LoRab
@TonyStarkPrime
@Long Con
@sig
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Abigail Sophia
@motobot
@Simon

Who killed Naitō Masatoyo?
Poll ended at Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm


falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
7%
Voters: sig
LoRab
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
4
29%
Voters: motobot, Simon, falcon45ca, Abigail Sophia
Abigail Sophia
6
43%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, LoRab, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, Epignosis, Long Con
motobot
0
No votes
Voters: None
Simon
0
No votes
Voters: None
The Jesuits (host/spec)
3
21%
Voters: S~V~S, leetic, Scotty

A thief was caught stealing coins and was later hanged. Abigail Sophia was the thief.

N2 begins and ends 24 hours from now.

[leetic]

@falcon45ca
@Epignosis
@DrWilgy
@LoRab
@TonyStarkPrime
@Long Con
@sig
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Abigail Sophia
@motobot
@Simon

In order to get revenge for the Takeda clan's casualties, Takeda Katsuyori rushed into battle. However, his strategical acumen was nowhere near as good as his father's, and he was quickly killed.

You are Takeda Katsuyori, Shingen's son and heir! You are a member of the Takeda Clan, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated or otherwise neutralized or if nothing can stop this from happening.

DrWilgy was killed. It is now D3, which lasts 48 hours.

[Long Con]

RIP Wilgy.

I thought the thief WAS Kagemusha, from the opening description. The thief is identical to the daimyō, but is Shingen the daimyō? And Kagemusha replaces Shingen, so I thought they would be identical.

But now I don't know, because AS didn't flip Kagemusha, so the thief is someone different? Hopefully, a Wolf? Also, there was no alignment given in the host post?

[falcon45ca]

Did we get Maf?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Fairly sure Abigail was non-mafia. She was likely the main character flipping as Kagemusha (who is the thief).

[JaggedJimmyJay]

So the game is kinda bung.

DrWilgy is a somewhat fortuitous kill. That removed one layer of tinfoil.

[Long Con]

That sucks, if true.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Radical theory:

Epignosis and motobot are mafia. Scotty only gave them soft town reads, so they killed him. Wilgy explicitly suggested they’re a tinfoil theory of his, so they killed him.

It’d also explain why this whole game has felt like ass.