Re: Kagemusha (D4)
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:33 pm
If you had to pick between the two do you still find Epi worse?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:30 pmThis may be an important thing. LoRab, when accused, has fully opened the POE pool (in a sense) by including sig as a suspect, and that has progressed. I don't actually think that is a suspicious thing for her to do in isolation. Indeed, that's kind of what I would expect from a civilian in her position. She would have a uniquely insightful view of the game by way of knowing LoRab isn't it. That tends to require considering more radical possibilities.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:25 pm You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.
Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.
Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.
And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.
I contrast this with Epignosis, who found another player in as much danger as he was to accuse (LoRab herself) and went for the self-proclaimed "slam dunk". That's easier to describe as an agenda.
I also find this kind of hard to believe.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:17 amAll right. This is a civilian JJJ. Final answer.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:22 pm @falcon45ca I can’t get Epi to talk about you, so he’s either teamed with you or trying to make it look that way. If it’s the latter, only you can drive the wedge.
Can you better explain your second sentence? I don’t know what you mean of “convincing civs,” other than it seems to be an admission of you’re not civ.
Yes, I do.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:34 pmIf you had to pick between the two do you still find Epi worse?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:30 pmThis may be an important thing. LoRab, when accused, has fully opened the POE pool (in a sense) by including sig as a suspect, and that has progressed. I don't actually think that is a suspicious thing for her to do in isolation. Indeed, that's kind of what I would expect from a civilian in her position. She would have a uniquely insightful view of the game by way of knowing LoRab isn't it. That tends to require considering more radical possibilities.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:25 pm You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.
Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.
Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.
And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.
I contrast this with Epignosis, who found another player in as much danger as he was to accuse (LoRab herself) and went for the self-proclaimed "slam dunk". That's easier to describe as an agenda.
Personally I think expanding the POE at this phase just makes it more confusing, adds more unknown, and just further increases the chance we misvote. But, I’m a bit bias regarding that
Didn’t you not know if there was an Indy in the game a few hours ago? And wasn’t I the one to answer you about it?sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:26 pm If we add TSP back into the mix and say they’re teammates that would explain why we’re all having such a hard time finding two mafia members. But; there’s the risk there that we assume this and blindly go into the lorab vote.
Having said that it isn’t a stretch to think that Lorab, who isn’t as tied into the game wouldn’t be totally aware of TSP Claim/}remember her early comment
Ah. That makes sense. Shoddy logic, but I understand what you are wrong about.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:38 pmYou and LC are mafia,
You only need one maybe two civs to join you on the falcon wagon and boom win.
@Long Con @TonyStarkPrime any thoughts about this rationale?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:30 pmThis may be an important thing. LoRab, when accused, has fully opened the POE pool (in a sense) by including sig as a suspect, and that has progressed. I don't actually think that is a suspicious thing for her to do in isolation. Indeed, that's kind of what I would expect from a civilian in her position. She would have a uniquely insightful view of the game by way of knowing LoRab isn't it. That tends to require considering more radical possibilities.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:25 pm You’re either wrong or you re lying. Either way, I’m civ.
Please, show me a game where players on this forum didn’t suspect me for that. Because, that is not alignment indicative. And I just clarified my thoughts on Indy views.
Meanwhile, since I have nothing to lose now,. And in case there’s some weird thing and my lynch doesn’t end the game with the bad guys winning,I’ll share that you have become way more suspicious this round. You’re close in line for rising from orange to red. Evidence includes your clearly not really paying attention to details of the game.
And your apparent glee at the wagon against me.
I contrast this with Epignosis, who found another player in as much danger as he was to accuse (LoRab herself) and went for the self-proclaimed "slam dunk". That's easier to describe as an agenda.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:48 pm If LoRab is mafia, I am struggling to find a good teammate right now. I don't think Epi makes sense unless he abandoned his old aversion to bussing. He can win the game today if he wants to, so pursuing his teammate would be goofy.
Long Con is theoretically plausible, but he is also the origin of the LoRab wagon today more than anyone else. So eh.
falcon is theoretically plausible, but only if we accept significant distancing earlier in the game (especially with LoRab's indignant reception of his accusations).
That’s because my teammates are other civs who have no other information and are lost.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:48 pm If LoRab is mafia, I am struggling to find a good teammate right now. I don't think Epi makes sense unless he abandoned his old aversion to bussing. He can win the game today if he wants to, so pursuing his teammate would be goofy.
Long Con is theoretically plausible, but he is also the origin of the LoRab wagon today more than anyone else. So eh.
falcon is theoretically plausible, but only if we accept significant distancing earlier in the game (especially with LoRab's indignant reception of his accusations).
And with 2 mafia we really need to try and consolidateJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:52 pm Reminder that a tie won't cut it -- mafia control them. It shouldn't happen with 7 players, but yanno.
You’re saying he’s right and you’re mafia?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
I dunno what I'm saying.sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmYou’re saying he’s right and you’re mafia?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
Because your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmCould you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:33 pm Player - are they suspicious? - would I vote?
falcon45ca - no - yes
Epignosis - no - no
Princess Abigail - yes - yes
DrWilgy - no - no
LoRab - no - yes
Scotty - no - no
TonyStarkPrime - kinda? - eh?
Long Con - no - no
sig - no - no
Abigail Sophia - no - yes
motobot - no - no
Simon - yes - yes
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pmBecause your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmCould you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
I struggle to imagine why you care about that right now. There has been a whole game and I have made hundreds more posts (as you have mentioned repeatedly).falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:06 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:33 pm Player - are they suspicious? - would I vote?
falcon45ca - no - yes
Epignosis - no - no
Princess Abigail - yes - yes
DrWilgy - no - no
LoRab - no - yes
Scotty - no - no
TonyStarkPrime - kinda? - eh?
Long Con - no - no
sig - no - no
Abigail Sophia - no - yes
motobot - no - no
Simon - yes - yesYou had me as not sus, yes would vote on D1JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
Which means the whole not sus is a non read
D1 bud. You're Maf
You’re not going to listen to me, so why bother.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:07 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pmBecause your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmCould you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read
I would appreciate the same.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:07 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pmBecause your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmCould you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:08 pmI struggle to imagine why you care about that right now. There has been a whole game and I have made hundreds more posts (as you have mentioned repeatedly).falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:06 pmJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:33 pm Player - are they suspicious? - would I vote?
falcon45ca - no - yes
Epignosis - no - no
Princess Abigail - yes - yes
DrWilgy - no - no
LoRab - no - yes
Scotty - no - no
TonyStarkPrime - kinda? - eh?
Long Con - no - no
sig - no - no
Abigail Sophia - no - yes
motobot - no - no
Simon - yes - yesYou had me as not sus, yes would vote on D1JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pm Perhaps it's meaningful that falcon is the only player who has suspected me and never reconsidered.
Which means the whole not sus is a non read
D1 bud. You're Maf
Why is that Day 1 post important to you? What do you even mean? I seriously don’t understand.
“Not sus, would vote” is basically just null/POE.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:10 pmYou’re not going to listen to me, so why bother.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:07 pmLoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:05 pmBecause your thoughts have been civ aligned as I red them, and tone.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:55 pmCould you describe what it is about me that you find trustworthy?
I'd like to hear some specifics, cuz this is a boiler plate read
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:14 pm I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard.
I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue.
LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:20 pm Seriously, though. Is there anything I could have responded to that which would convince anyone that by lynching me they are handing the game to the baddies?
Because, y’all are.
And I’m exhausted (and still not fully healthy), and I’m not going to bother. There’s no way civvies will win if we don’t lynch a baddie this round, as far as I can see. In lynching me, yall are lynching a civvie.
So, I’ve kind of lost motivation to respond other than how I feel l Ike responding.
I mean I haven’t concretely town read anyone other than sig or Tony.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:23 pmYou absolutely have said I've had town moments, but you've also never TR me. Are you trying to say now that you have?JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:14 pm I absolutely vote null reads @falcon45ca. I have done in this and many other games. I look for civilians and null reads don’t meet the standard.
I have also said you have had town moments repeatedly this game. Treating it like I have tunneled you is just demonstrably untrue.
I don't think every post you've made is wolfy, far from it, but that doesn't mean you're not scum dude
Thanks LoRab. @falcon45ca please interact.LoRab wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:46 pm Fine.
Your consistent sharing of ideas as they come to your head, and being willing to be wrong, are both civ qualities.
Your frequency of shorter posts throughout day cycles makes it unlikely that you are also posting in ptsd.
I wouldn’t really be logical that you’d NK Wilgy, only to make the point that the baddies are likely not fully following the game. I mean, maybe? But then you’d let someone else make the actual case for the idea. I mean, occam on top of occam means, you’re likely civ.