The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:52 am**

P.S. I did not even go into my SD opinions as she is not on the poll.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:57 am**

S~V~S wrote:P.S. I did not even go into my SD opinions as she is not on the poll.

Oh bugger! I didn't see that. And... I kinda want to open mine. Go out with a bang and stuff.

And Hedgie is very likely to be my pick for today as well.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:26 am**

S~V~S wrote: For instance, helpful as he was, I really do think DH was bad. I was trying to find a chink in his armor when he got Red Roomed.

I agree with you there! And yes, it was tough to stick anything to him, since he stayed with analysis and avoided opinions.
My reasons for suspecting him revolved around finding flaws or missing conclusions in his analyses..
one can't ever be sure someone didn't really just miss some facts though.

S~V~S wrote:Hedgie, however, has said a bunch, and none of it really made me feel better about her. I would not be surprised if they both were bad, tbh.

I would be!

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:52 am**

Nevinera wrote:There are lots of thing I (for example) do not know.
How would you like me to take them under consideration?
Should I make illogical decisions based on the fact that my logic might be wrong?
Should I vote roughly randomly to compensate for the chance that MP is just messing with us when he tells us things?

Please, recommend some specific alternative course of action while you rail at my behavior.
Any ideas what this "boom" might be, or how we could prepare for it?
Should we lynch boomslang first, based on your feelings about his behavior?
What role do you think he has, and how would lynching him again help us win in that case?

Linki mp - interesting!
And I am confused that they would choose her, since she was one of a small pool of suspects.
Still, I suppose the odds she would waste a Rez to kill herself to throw off suspicion are a bit remote,
so I'll pop her up into the probably civ category with DF.
I wonder if maybe Henderson is still around? That would explain the very odd choice of target.
I suppose BB is still unaccounted for, so that might have been the alarm clock going off.

Linki mp again..
Bah. I hate guessing games!

I am out most of the day, so I am just going to remind Nev of this post before he votes.

SVS, I am most surprised by your vote as I thought you might be the one person to know I was possibly civ. My question to you is how come I never got to play your game?

I am not an important civ by any means, but I am civ nonetheless. Sorry if my attempts at discussion make me a baddie, but seriously I was at least trying in the limited time I have right now. Based on my role, which you will all know soon enough, I have been wathcing and waiting for when the lynch bandwagoning might start around me, as a sign of baddies, That is why I am so surprised its coming from NEev and FH, and thats I had the ZOdac speculation that I did. Think about it.

ok, I am out peace ya'll.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:01 am**

I believe she is hinting here, is anyone aware of corroborating evidence?
A night power that targeted Hedge but didn't turn out to hit her, perhaps?

That would persuade me to vote Elo instead today.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 am**

(preferably on a night that wasn't Inh's random-fest)

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:18 am**

Mind you, I don't think that role would fully make sense, since I can't see why the creeper would have tried to kill Hedge (and get bounced onto SD) either, as another of the only suspected people remaining..

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:53 am**

I agree, Creeper's decision to kill SD was odd. I see what Hedge might be hinting at, but like you said, Nev, if she was the original target last night, that doesn't make much sense either.

I am trying to look at things from every angle. The only Kate voter's who are still alive are bea, birdwithteeth, and Spacedaisy. But when bea voted for Kate, she was a civvie (assuming we are certain she was civvie before her suicide and rezz?). We know BWT's role so unless something really funky has happened there, I think he can be cleared of being a baddie. And I've pointed out why I don't think SD makes much sense as a Video Game baddie. Plus with her recent death and rezz, there is a civvie role that makes more sense.

I skimmed back through Hedgeowl's posts and she has never been insanified, doesn't appear to have been Homestar Runnered, and hasn't been targeted at night for a kill. So there might be something there.

One thing I considered is players who have missed votes. I know when I am on a team I am much more careful about voting because I have a team relying on my vote. Hedgeowl has missed two votes, but Elohcin, who has been mostly absent from discussion this game, has never missed a vote.

I am going to carefully read back through some people's posts. I was ready to vote Hedge until her latest post which has given me pause.

Question to everyone: Do you think there's a chance Dr. Fetus is dead already? I've been pondering if were dealing with a lone baddie in Creeper right now.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:57 am**

There's certainly a solid chance of that, imo.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:47 pm**

Lizzy wrote:You guys, I'm not sure I'm buying this whole SD thing because that's just bad baddie strategy :\ She could be BB, but I somehow don't see her accepting a NK offer from a random butler (unlike myself )

Also, should we have some sort of package strategy? I played the Avant game on PA and naturally, I opened mine (although I think that one was a poll option) and kinda died.

I would recommend you go back and read my posts after the secrets were revealed. There was a very good reason I was suspicious of Epi because of his connecting the dots of the Moriarty kill and the BB kill so quickly. I was suspicious of him before the secrets were revealed because of the phrasing of a PM I received.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:05 pm**

I doubt I'll be around for the end of the lynch, so I'll go ahead and vote now. I'll stick with my suspicion from yesterday. *votes Elohcin*

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:39 pm**

Yes, that fit my assessment of you SD.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:31 pm**

Blargh! I'm voting Elo and will die in an explosion. So there!

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:38 pm**

On my way to work. I'm going with elo.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:47 pm**

Boomslang wrote:Well, it seems like you all have the analysis pretty well locked down, so I'll just pop in to say I'm totally opening my box. And will probably vote Elo, because nothing important has changed since the last day.

This is pretty much where I'm at. And I will be voting Elo as well.

Sorry I haven't contributed anything at all the last few days, but I've been super ridiculously busy and tired. Plus I'm about to leave for a concert so I have to vote and run.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:58 pm**

I'm going to vote for Elo, because Hedge's defense is plausible, despite having no confirmation.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:58 pm**

EBWOP: Color change

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:59 pm**

to all the Elo voters. I won't throw a hissy fit today. But I will say that you are W.R.O.N.G. Wrong! for thinking I should be the one to go.

linki BWT -

on you too.

goodness. More linki!

for Nev!

You all suck!

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:07 pm**

*Hedgie*

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:09 pm**

I guess I suck too, then.

*Votes Elohcin* If she's not Creeper then some shenanigans have gone down for sure.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:31 pm**

Voting Elo, but you already knew that.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:37 pm**

I was torn, I considered voting Hedge so SVS wasn't left out to dry. Basically I don't have a clue what is happening in this game so I could have gone either way. I ended up voting Elo though.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:48 pm**

Under standably I really hope Elo is bad, because otherwise who is really left? Everyone is vouching for everyone else is this game. It almost feels like Elos the only one left or otherwise some of us are not who we have guessed etc.

Votes Elo

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 pm**

[center]Day 13: CREEPER![/center]
"Screw you all!!!" proclaimed Elohcin.

She exploded, hoping to take down as many players as she could. Hedgeowl was her only victim, suffering too much from the explosion.

Elohcin has exploded. She was Creeper.
Hedgeowl has died in an explosion.

It is now Night 13. You have 48 hours to send in your night PMs.[/b]

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:16 pm**

Who should be sent to The Red Room?

Poll runs till Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:22:01 pm

bea
0
No votes
birdwithteeth11
0
No votes
Boomslang
0
No votes
DFaraday
0
No votes
Elohcin
9
DFaraday (4), Lizzy (5), bea (6), birdwithteeth11 (7), Nevinera (8), Flyin' High (10), Boomslang (11), Spacedaisy (12), Hedgeowl (13) 69%
Flyin' High
0
No votes
Hedgeowl
2
S~V~S (3), Elohcin (9) 15%
Lizzy
0
No votes
Nevinera
0
No votes
S~V~S
0
No votes
No one! (host, deadies, non-players)
2
MovingPictures07 (1), timmer (2) 15%
Total votes : 13

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:30 pm**

[center]Night 13: Packages[/center]
bea, birdwithteeth11, Boomslang, and Lizzy all decided to open their packages.

"Congratulations!!!" the voice snickered.

The lucky four ripped open the packages and found giant red buttons. birdwithteeth11 commented, "Mine has a number 1 on it."

Boomslang, "Interesting... mine has a 2."

Lizzy, "3 k".

bea remarked, "...and mine says four."

What did it all mean?

The voice laughed uncontrollably. "Push the button or not? Let me know by the end of the night period!!!"

It is still Night 13.[/b]

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:45 pm**

RIP Hedgeowl, I think you were good based on reading back and some things you said.

Good game, Elohcin! You almost had me convinced we were wrong about you!

So the game isn't over. Does that mean we need to take care of Cohen? Or is there another baddie unaccounted for?

Those buttons have me scared.

Posted: **Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:55 pm**

It was a lot of fun y'all

Stay cool! I don't really think any of you suck.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:57 am**

Flyin' High wrote:
So the game isn't over. Does that mean we need to take care of Cohen? Or is there another baddie unaccounted for?

Yeah.

Well, I am glad you guys were right, and now I know Elo can manipulate me emotionally, lol. Nice to know for the future.

Sorry you are gone that way Hedge.

And hope you make the right choices with the boxes.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:33 am**

So I am now actually flying out to Tallahassee tonight. As a result, I gave you guys 48 hours for night, but it might be longer than that before I get around to the post. Stay tuned.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:34 am**

We will still need to lynch boomslang, unless Bea dies tonight in a mysterious sock-motivated explosion of some kind.
We'll probably need to do it twice :-\

The logic that he's cohen is solid, though far from proof.. but he hasn't really argued the point.
Of course if whatever is in these packages kills either of them, that could easily change.

linki: OH GOD THE SUSPENSE! :-)

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:05 am**

oooo Elo you really had me there. Good luck everyone! Off to the red room...

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:19 am**

Well, you could try to lynch me, but that's really only a wise course of action if you're sure I'm Cohen and there are no baddies remaining. I think there still are some unaccounted for, and do you want to let them fester?

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:43 am**

I agree, it would only be logical to lynch you in that case.
I plan on voting for you tomorrow.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:45 am**

BIH Elo! Glad to see you go! Hoping Hedge was up to no good, but now I'm starting to think she wasn't.

So either one of two things will occur with the packages:

1) Each number corresponds to 1 of the 4 of us. If the number that represents any of the 4 of us is pressed, that person explodes and dies.

2) Same as before. But instead, each person explodes if the button is NOT pressed.

At least that's what I would conjecture. So if that's the case, I think the 4 of us need to agree to all do the same thing. So either we all push our buttons or none of us do.

Now as for which Sock would do, I'll have to think about that one. Anyone else with other ideas is more than welcome to discuss them too.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:05 pm**

Whehey! Poor Hedgie!

And nice one, Elo!

So yus, we either blow each other up (ifyouknowwhatimean), we blow ourselves up, we blow up some of the people who decided not to open the package, orrrrr if we all decide to sit back we'll all explode and... I have no idea.

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 7:45 pm**

Awesome lynch result was awesome!

Nevinera wrote:We will still need to lynch boomslang, unless Bea dies tonight in a mysterious sock-motivated explosion of some kind.
We'll probably need to do it twice :-\

The logic that he's cohen is solid, though far from proof.. but he hasn't really argued the point.
Of course if whatever is in these packages kills either of them, that could easily change.

linki: OH GOD THE SUSPENSE! :-)

I'm confused as to what my dying tonight would have to do with how many times we would need to lynch boomslang.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:BIH Elo! Glad to see you go! Hoping Hedge was up to no good, but now I'm starting to think she wasn't.

So either one of two things will occur with the packages:

1) Each number corresponds to 1 of the 4 of us. If the number that represents any of the 4 of us is pressed, that person explodes and dies.

2) Same as before. But instead, each person explodes if the button is NOT pressed.

At least that's what I would conjecture. So if that's the case, I think the 4 of us need to agree to all do the same thing. So either we all push our buttons or none of us do.

Now as for which Sock would do, I'll have to think about that one. Anyone else with other ideas is more than welcome to discuss them too.

I actually agree with all of this. I'll also add this:

We have no way of knowing if we hold our own button or someone else's button. I can see the scenario SVS talked about where each button we have corresponds to a different player. Since boom is the one who is suspect, I can't see any reason to risk just one of us pushing the button (or not) while the rest of us do the opposite. If we accidentally aspolodey ourselves we'll seriously hurt our voting power.

So yea - I think all in or all out is the best way to go. Just not sure which one to choose. Again, more roulette as far as I'm concerned. I will go with what the rest of you decide.

Lizzy - that's the best gif ever! Well played

Posted: **Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:53 pm**

You're just the only living person who has voted for him. So if you died for some random reason tonight, he could again win with the civs. Not advocating for that, just mentioned it as an aside.

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:38 am**

Refer to post in red room for update. Not sure how to.copypaste on this phone.

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:09 am**

Oh my gosh, MP. I am so so sorry to hear about your flights getting all screwed up again! Travel safely and don't worry about the game right now.

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:25 pm**

Alex, in the words of Courage Wolf, you need to climb the highest mountain and punch the face of God. That is complete bs (even though I know it's out of anyone's control) that the weather has messed up your campus visit twice now. If you weren't in the middle of tax season, I would recommend you just drive down to Tallahassee at this rate lol. But yeah, as FH said, don't even worry about the game until you can get yourself situated again! You have more important things to take care of anyway.

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:44 pm**

Alex.

@ nev - ok - got it. I just forgot the connection.

So are we pushing the button or not?

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:44 pm**

No worries about us, Sockman! Do what you have to do, zzz, rest and then deal with our dangerous explosives.

Bea... I want to push it.

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:28 pm**

You remind me of BDH. *giggles*

Posted: **Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:07 pm**

I'm leaning towards not pushing them honestly. While I think each one corresponds to one of us, I don't want to take the risk of trying to get Boomslang with it and catching one of the other 3 of us instead. So I vote no pushing.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:49 am**

Teefies - I was kinda thinking the same thing. If I remember correctly - pushing the button deactivated the bomb last time, so the logical response is not pushing the button.

I am not pushing it either. Sorry lizzy - I know there's a big red button begging to be pushed. But unless someone can give me a *really* good reason to push it in the next several hours, I'm not pushing it.

(how funny would it be it I was the one that had boom's button?)

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:27 pm**

ok - I'm not sure what time alex will get in to do the night post, but I've got to head into work now. I'm sending in my pm to not push the button.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:00 pm**

Hey everyone, sorry I have been so busy and not around. I ended up rescheduling for tomorrow to fly out and visit on Monday. Here's hoping third time is the charm.

I'll see if I can get to the night actions sometime later tonight.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:36 pm**

My flight has been canceled.

Again.

I am livid.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:46 pm**

MovingPictures07 wrote:My flight has been canceled.

Again.

I am livid.

You shouldn't worry about that.

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