The Syndicate

Well, $3 on Pennsylvania

Could be. She isn't the only one who struggles with the change. It seems to work both ways as well.

Now I'm scared to go over there.

I think they are scarier, lol. They suspect EVERYTHING and rip everything apart and call each other by their real names so you have no idea who is whom. I was lost, alone and afraid ha ha.

S~V~S wrote:I think they are scarier, lol. They suspect EVERYTHING and rip everything apart and call each other by their real names so you have no idea who is whom. I was lost, alone and afraid ha ha.

lol I agree completely!

S~V~S wrote:I think they are scarier, lol. They suspect EVERYTHING and rip everything apart and call each other by their real names so you have no idea who is whom. I was lost, alone and afraid ha ha.

It can't be as bad as mafiascum. That place is unforgiving.

Night 6 End/Day 7 Start: Worked Over

zeek got smashed over the head with a pipe.

zeek has been killed by Water Works. Thanks for playing zeek.
It is now Day 7. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now I'm scared to go over there.

I don't personally understand it, but I seem to be the minority in that

linki About the Real names. i learned most of them they used pretty quickly. I try not to use them in games, but loads of people on this site seem to do it as well.

more linki

zeek

Nice roll SVS. RIP zeek

So that's three monopolies now. Green, red, and baby blues. Yeesh.

I did not buy anything on Pennsylvania Avenue, as I only just acquired it.

fingersplints wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Now I'm scared to go over there.

I don't personally understand it, but I seem to be the minority in that

linki About the Real names. i learned most of them they used pretty quickly. I try not to use them in games, but loads of people on this site seem to do it as well.

more linki

zeek

I know. I personally am not a fan of it, if feels cliquish & exclusionary, calling someone a personal name in public. I know it tends to make me feel excluded, like I'm not one of the cool kids. But that's me.

So I guess that either WW is a returned low poster, or WW was goofing with us, or missed a PM. And Zeek has been taking some heat, so that is a surprise. And the Greens have houses? Wasn't llama a Green? So that means they bought the houses before he died?

Linki~ I did not look yet. Where am I?

S~V~S: Started on Vermont Avenue. Moved 2 (1+1) to Just Visiting. 2nd roll = 7 (3+4) moved to Community Chest (got $50 for every other living player from bank)

S~V~S wrote:So I guess that either WW is a returned low poster, or WW was goofing with us, or missed a PM. And Zeek has been taking some heat, so that is a surprise. And the Greens have houses? Wasn't llama a Green? So that means they bought the houses before he died?

Linki~ I did not look yet. Where am I?

LC was suspicious of zeek, but I'd have to double-check why. MP thought zeek was civ.

Did anyone else voice an opinion? I didn't have one, other than zeek was quiet.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:S~V~S: Started on Vermont Avenue. Moved 2 (1+1) to Just Visiting. 2nd roll = 7 (3+4) moved to Community Chest (got $50 for every other living player from bank)

Why are you pointing this out? It's happened on other nights.

RIP zeek! Hope to play with you again soon.

Oh sorry i did not see that SVS asked MM. Linki

zeek wrote:Don't think I've got a lynch vote on this site yet, but y'all love NKing me :P

Taking a short break from Mafia now (provided I don't get rezzed), so I'll be back when life settles down a little

I look forward to playing with you again. I was hoping to chat with you today.

So three people landed on red and paid over $1000 out of their own pockets. Supposedly.

The reds made at least $3200 that turn.

None of the people who landed on a red property died. Which of them didn't die because they are red?

who are the three?

Long Con wrote:So three people landed on red and paid over $1000 out of their own pockets. Supposedly.

The reds made at least $3200 that turn.

None of the people who landed on a red property died. Which of them didn't die because they are red?

Good point. I completely missed that. That's a lot of quiet players that landed there. DP, DF, and Ninja Bloops.

I definitely don't see them all being red. Since they're still around, they've each passed GO once and collected a bit of rent, so each of them probably has more than $1100, and not being very active, they haven't spent much either, if they've spent any money. They each would have had to buy hotels too, and come on to buy houses the last couple turns.

But one of them being red is very possible.

Turnip Head wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Bye Llama.

I got you once.

I'm reconsidering wanting you lyched Long Con. I don't think you're one of the reds, and they are more important to track down right now.

While I agree the reds are more dangerous, keep in mind that the baby blues have recently purchased more houses, and their hotels are significantly cheaper for them to buy than the reds' hotels. Once those hotels go up, that money is coming out of our pockets.

I'm going to stick with thinking the reds are the most dangerous.

Sorry couldn't resist after that crazy night. So the Reds have hotels and I had a lucky break last night. Unfortunately I moved so far around the board I am back in danger land. The light blues don't seem to be acting in unison, that's something to consider and now the greens are building. Does that mean a green bought Llama's property?

For the ones that landed on Red, I am thinking they have been real quiet and not spending money, so they have passed go and could afford it this time around.

Yeah, knowing I was headed that way, even when they had only houses, was why i decided against the Pricey power yesterday. I guess we know why they sold their houses now.

Linki, MM bought Llamas card, and he says he did not build.

S~V~S wrote:Yeah, knowing I was headed that way, even when they had only houses, was why i decided against the Pricey power yesterday. I guess we know why they sold their houses now.

Linki, MM bought Llamas card, and he says he did not build.

I just realized they bought it during the day before he was lynched.

Also, "MM said" means nothing to me...

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I did not buy anything on Pennsylvania Avenue, as I only just acquired it.

True, you would have to believe him. I am not sure what he would gain by lying about this though, since he publicly bought the card overnight. No one owned it overnight, right? Llama was dead, and the card was on the market.

I also feel less bad about llama since he apparently WAS in a LMS group.

S~V~S wrote:I also feel less bad about llama since he apparently WAS in a LMS group.

They must have found each other Night 5, I think. The greens did not have houses yesterday, and players paid standard rent when they landed on green, rather than double.

Both DFaraday and Nijuu seem to have had enough money to survive landing on a red hotel, provided neither of them have bid and won for anything substantial.

DisgruntledPorcupine, however, landed on Luxury Tax, so he didn't make any money by passing GO. At a base $1000, paying $1050 should have killed him. Granted, he probably made some cash from people landing on his property, but if he made any bids that he won, then it becomes suspicious. We'll have to look into that.

S~V~S wrote:Yeah, knowing I was headed that way, even when they had only houses, was why i decided against the Pricey power yesterday. I guess we know why they sold their houses now.

Linki, MM bought Llamas card, and he says he did not build.

I will buy one house to increase my total to 3. That will increase my own profit, but it will still keep the other two greens from building hotels, and therefore keep anyone from having to pay rent.

Linki: LC everyone collected $50 when someone, I think you, landed on chance. DP probably had enough then.

Oh, that's right. So that would put him at $0 plus any rent he's made, minus anything he has bid and won, if that has happened.

And if he's clean... then amazingly, three people landed on the Death Hotels and survived. :o

Long Con wrote:Both DFaraday and Nijuu seem to have had enough money to survive landing on a red hotel, provided neither of them have bid and won for anything substantial.

DisgruntledPorcupine, however, landed on Luxury Tax, so he didn't make any money by passing GO. At a base $1000, paying $1050 should have killed him. Granted, he probably made some cash from people landing on his property, but if he made any bids that he won, then it becomes suspicious. We'll have to look into that.

I haven't won anything this game.

If DP is one of the more expensive properties I could see him having racked up enough reserve if people have landed on his, but it's hard to say.

Rest in peace Zeekypoo. Hope your hiatus isn't a long one. Looks like the utilities are back to their old tricks.

RIP Zeek

Quite a few LMS groups now then and I am dangerously close to the reds

Note on DP he got $100 from the community chest on the first part of his roll before he hit the red hotel so that plus any rent he collected plus the COB thingy from LC (all players get $50) would have gotten him enough to get by I think.

Well, all three of those are heading down the stretch towards the Greens. Looking at the board & recent movements, the Yellows are a Monopoly (MP is on Ventnor and the bank paid $44, which is the rent w/Monopoly). The night before Splints landed on Boardwalk and paid $50, which is the non monopoly rent, but they could have Monopolized since then. So Red thru Green is going to be very ugly very soon. We are going to start seeing some attrition, especially if Yellow starts building.

Ok, so here's the new theory of TH being Water Works. I'll acknowledge the "base" theory that Llama put forth, since he was quite adamant about TH being bad, but his ideas didn't gain enough traction, probably because he was a sketchy character himself. And this theory has a bonus aspect, that this Utility has generously given us a Railroad as well.

I'll go with one of the smaller pieces of evidence first, that TH was actually actively campaigning to NOT kill Water Works, based on the fact that Water Works missed their kill on Night 4. He wanted to skip Water Works and go after LMS groups in order to leave the kill in the hands of an inactive player. He wanted us to accept the theory that we would be seeing Water Works miss more kills in the future, making it safer for everyone to leave Water Works alive.

Upon reflection, that's a fool's dream. I don't think it's a remotely plausible thing to believe. But Turnip Head was pretty insistent on it, even going so far as to accuse people who wanted to kill Water Works of anti-Civvie behaviour.

One of TH's main suspicions is Lorab. He is really pushing the idea that she's a Railroad. Lorab landed on Electric Company on Day 1. If TH is Water Works, then he's doing this because he knows that Lorab is a Railroad, and he's now moving to take her out. It makes sense to wait a while after learning her role so early, because she would be looking for a Utility coming after her after landing on it. And in the last lynch, TH vs Llama, you would think that Llama would be the first vote, since this was his case... but Lorab is actually the first vote.

In the 'Mexican Standoff' situation of a Uitility knowing a Railroad, and a Railroad knowing they know... the Railroad would probably act fast to eliminate the Utility once they know who it is.

Zeek, incidentally, also landed on Electric Company and had his role learned. Water Works killed zeek last night. If zeek was a red property, then that's why he was killed. Which means Water Works would have a Death Hotel in possession. If that's true, and we lynch Water Works, then that hotel will be up for grabs, and the reds obviously have enough money to outbid anyone to get their property back. Just stuff to think about.

*votes TH*

Also, MetalMarsh, yeah, you got me. Four times in total, though the first two were generously combined into one warning. Then I went to bed, got up the next morning, and went about posting like I was Mr. Normal. I posted twice, then had one of those realizations where you feel yourself go pale and catch your breath, before going back and seeing exactly how many posts I had already made. I lost my vote on the first one, and paid you $50 for the second one.

Well played, sir.

You've got some neat ideas there LC, and I must say it's refreshing to see an actual case against me for once. I'm not Water Works though, and here's why.

Long Con wrote:I'll go with one of the smaller pieces of evidence first, that TH was actually actively campaigning to NOT kill Water Works, based on the fact that Water Works missed their kill on Night 4. He wanted to skip Water Works and go after LMS groups in order to leave the kill in the hands of an inactive player. He wanted us to accept the theory that we would be seeing Water Works miss more kills in the future, making it safer for everyone to leave Water Works alive.

To be fair, I wanted to skip lynching an inactive Water Works for now and go after railroads and LMS groups, not just LMS groups as you state here. They are all threats, but I figure that an inactive player who is solely in charge of an NK is the least threatening of those. In addition, I didn't want to randomly go after a nonparticipant hoping they were Water Works, again because it's like looking for a needle in a haystack AND the kill would transfer to another group anyways. It seemed safest to leave it in WW's hands if WW wasn't playing. It also seemed safe to wait one more day to see if the trend continued. Sadly it did not.

Long Con wrote:Upon reflection, that's a fool's dream. I don't think it's a remotely plausible thing to believe. But Turnip Head was pretty insistent on it, even going so far as to accuse people who wanted to kill Water Works of anti-Civvie behaviour.

Thank you Captain Hindsight, a fool's dream indeed. But I ask you why it is uncivvie-like for me to want to save lives by leaving that NK in WW hands if WW wasn't using it? If WW had missed another kill last night, wouldn't we be better off leaving WW alone for as long as possible? Lynching an inactive WW would have moved the kill over to a more powerful team, which is all I wanted to avoid. I was trying to save civvie lives.

As for accusing people for wanting to kill WW... that was just BR. I've since written this off as a misunderstanding on her part. She didn't realize how the Beatdown power worked.

Long Con wrote:One of TH's main suspicions is Lorab. He is really pushing the idea that she's a Railroad. Lorab landed on Electric Company on Day 1. If TH is Water Works, then he's doing this because he knows that Lorab is a Railroad, and he's now moving to take her out. It makes sense to wait a while after learning her role so early, because she would be looking for a Utility coming after her after landing on it. And in the last lynch, TH vs Llama, you would think that Llama would be the first vote, since this was his case... but Lorab is actually the first vote.

In the 'Mexican Standoff' situation of a Uitility knowing a Railroad, and a Railroad knowing they know... the Railroad would probably act fast to eliminate the Utility once they know who it is.

If I KNEW Lorab was a railroad, if I've known since Day 1 as you claim, and IF I'm Water Works... I would have tried to NK Lorab and I would have done it immediately. She probably would have swiftly received the Hedgeowl treatment after surviving. I would NOT tip my hand of being the game's only rolechecker by accusing her straight up, I'm smart enough to know better than that.

Long Con wrote:Zeek, incidentally, also landed on Electric Company and had his role learned. Water Works killed zeek last night. If zeek was a red property, then that's why he was killed. Which means Water Works would have a Death Hotel in possession. If that's true, and we lynch Water Works, then that hotel will be up for grabs, and the reds obviously have enough money to outbid anyone to get their property back. Just stuff to think about.

This... has nothing at all to do with me so I guess I don't have to respond to it. Hopefully Zeek was a red or a member of another monopoly, but I don't know his role and I didn't kill him.

Long Con I will strongly consider your case as I look at who will get my vote today.

Two questions for you - or anyone really. One, doesn't it seem rather brazen of someone who is WW to argue against not killing WW? I guess this is a WIFOM thing - would he really do that?

Secondly, what about that night with no kill? Are you saying you think TH did that to set up low posters or do you have something else in mind?

Yeah, if I'm WW and missed that kill to set up low posters, but then I DEFENDED low posters from being lynched... what exactly was my endgame there?

@LC: Except that I'm not a railroad. I'm just a colored street. If TH knows my role, then he knows that. I think he's making a case against me for the sake of making a case against me. I always seem bad, so it's never that hard to do.

Other than that aspect, I agree with your case.

linkitis: your endgame was to be able to make the post that you just made.

You missed the kill so that it would seem like it wasn't you who had that power. You didn't actually care who was lynched as long as it wasn't you. So why not "defend" low posters (and really, you didn't defend them, just suggested that it wasn't worth trying to find them because they aren't really dangerous if they aren't really playing and because needle in haystack..that isn't actually defending).

Well I can't defend against accusations of WIFOM. My actions do not make sense if I'm a baddie, and you're saying that's WHY they make sense as a baddie. I can't defend against that. Some people will suspect me no matter what I do.

I think LCs case has some valid points but this one:

Turnip Head wrote:

Long Con wrote:One of TH's main suspicions is Lorab. He is really pushing the idea that she's a Railroad. Lorab landed on Electric Company on Day 1. If TH is Water Works, then he's doing this because he knows that Lorab is a Railroad, and he's now moving to take her out. It makes sense to wait a while after learning her role so early, because she would be looking for a Utility coming after her after landing on it. And in the last lynch, TH vs Llama, you would think that Llama would be the first vote, since this was his case... but Lorab is actually the first vote.

In the 'Mexican Standoff' situation of a Uitility knowing a Railroad, and a Railroad knowing they know... the Railroad would probably act fast to eliminate the Utility once they know who it is.

If I KNEW Lorab was a railroad, if I've known since Day 1 as you claim, and IF I'm Water Works... I would have tried to NK Lorab and I would have done it immediately. She probably would have swiftly received the Hedgeowl treatment after surviving. I would NOT tip my hand of being the game's only rolechecker by accusing her straight up, I'm smart enough to know better than that.

I dunno TH defence to this point makes a lot of sense to me so I don't see enough there for TH being a baddie. I still hope for some (more) input from low-posters, apart from that I would be fine with lynching someone from a LMS group as well since (for me personally the reds) they are a big threat to consider as well

RIP Zeek.

As for the case on TH . If TH is Water Works he is super brave for trying to get people not to vote Water Works.

RIP llama and zeek. Though from what I've been reading - llama was not quite so "I only have one partner and therefore not bad, not LSM." as he presented himself

HannaK wrote:I think LCs case has some valid points but this one:

Turnip Head wrote:

Long Con wrote:One of TH's main suspicions is Lorab. He is really pushing the idea that she's a Railroad. Lorab landed on Electric Company on Day 1. If TH is Water Works, then he's doing this because he knows that Lorab is a Railroad, and he's now moving to take her out. It makes sense to wait a while after learning her role so early, because she would be looking for a Utility coming after her after landing on it. And in the last lynch, TH vs Llama, you would think that Llama would be the first vote, since this was his case... but Lorab is actually the first vote.

In the 'Mexican Standoff' situation of a Uitility knowing a Railroad, and a Railroad knowing they know... the Railroad would probably act fast to eliminate the Utility once they know who it is.

If I KNEW Lorab was a railroad, if I've known since Day 1 as you claim, and IF I'm Water Works... I would have tried to NK Lorab and I would have done it immediately. She probably would have swiftly received the Hedgeowl treatment after surviving. I would NOT tip my hand of being the game's only rolechecker by accusing her straight up, I'm smart enough to know better than that.

I dunno TH defence to this point makes a lot of sense to me so I don't see enough there for TH being a baddie. I still hope for some (more) input from low-posters, apart from that I would be fine with lynching someone from a LMS group as well since (for me personally the reds) they are a big threat to consider as well

I'm quoting hanna's post because it's *exactly* the thought I had reading through this.

I get you LC, but TH is right in the defense here. IF TH is water works and if he knew LR was a RR - the smarter move would be to NK and stay hidden rather than try to lynch her and potentially reveal yourself. I figured that out easily enough and I'm the world's suckiest baddie. Soooo....either TH isn't water works, LR isn't rail road or they both aren't who you think they are in this theory.

RIP zeek. That's a bummer.

So it seems Llama had LMS conditions after all, even if newly acquired.... I still think that negates my LC/Llama connection though.

There have been good points on the LC/TH front. I find LC's case much more convincing potentially than Llama's. However... I am having trouble discerning one of two possibilities:

1) LC is dead on; TH is WW and LoRab is railroad.
2) LC is incorrect.

I think my gut still leans towards #2, with TH being a civvie since he seems genuine.

That said, I find it really odd Hanna and Bea come in here and say what they have. If #1 was the case, would either of them be so bold as to assert such a thing? It just seems weird to me given both of them have been very nonopinionated all game. Thoughts here?

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Today has been insanely busy for me.

I don't know that I want to follow MP's vote on llama, because I don't really trust him this game. I don't understand how TH can narrow LC down to a couple of colors. That seems incredibly sketchy to me. I haven't been able to narrow down anyone except that they aren't my color. So I'm going to vote there, but I will hopefully be around later and be able to change if something else presents itself.

happy birthday btw

Also, I wanted to point out this post too.

Why don't you really trust me this game? I mean, you shouldn't probably trust anyone, but I'm curious why you dropped this.

Also, this vote strikes me as illogical. I also had LC narrowed down to a likely Light Blue/Reds because of my theory AND because many of the posts LC has made have been of the "I may be LMS but I'm not the threat!!!" implications in them. Even though he wasn't connected to Llama, that doesn't change the fact that many of LC's posts have implied that content. So I don't understand why TH deserved your vote just because he thought LC was an LMSer.

I do not see the same things in LC's posts which are apparently obvious to you. He has said he has one btsc partner. I do not think anyone would try to imply they are LMS. Like I said, I have not been able to narrow it down so much so I do not understand how TH has, or you for that matter. Just because you disagree it does not make it "illogical"

I do not trust you because of your general blendiness, unwillingness to see other sides, and who has been targeted for NKs I am beginning to believe you might be a railroad.

Well, I really thought that's what he's been implying, but I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. I really hate it because I thought for once I was onto something totally spot on, but Llama's reveal made me realize that I think I pursued something heavily and it was incorrect. Just because LC has said he has one BTSC partner really means nothing to me; he made plenty of defenses against accusations of mine earlier that really read to me like he was claiming "I'm not a threat!!" but didn't ever rebut the LMS suggestion.

Unwillingness to see other sides? Sure. I get that. I wanted to listen to my gut because I feel I doubt myself too much. Well, I guess there's a reason I do.

Posting less? Sure. Building less cases? Sure. But general blendiness? I'm not sure how you see my behavior this game as blendy: I crusaded with my LC and Llama theory with practically no one backing me up, I was the only one to say zeek was a civvie to my knowledge... etc. So I feel I've been just as opinionated and active in original suspicions as almost anyone else this game, probably much more so than many, so I don't understand your perception. I appreciate your elaboration, but you're wrong about me. And I'm not sure what who has been targeted for NKs has to do with me either.

Once again I feel we're not seeing eye to eye and that's why you're suspecting me.

And multiple players keep throwing out how badly they want to catch Reds, but I don't see much baddie hunting from most players considering it's Day 7. I know I haven't been amazing myself, but I feel more people should have opinions of others by now. Hanna, for example, keeps stressing all of this, but never throws out any suspects of her own. It's starting to ping me big time.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:Today has been insanely busy for me.

I don't know that I want to follow MP's vote on llama, because I don't really trust him this game. I don't understand how TH can narrow LC down to a couple of colors. That seems incredibly sketchy to me. I haven't been able to narrow down anyone except that they aren't my color. So I'm going to vote there, but I will hopefully be around later and be able to change if something else presents itself.

happy birthday btw

Also, I wanted to point out this post too.

Why don't you really trust me this game? I mean, you shouldn't probably trust anyone, but I'm curious why you dropped this.

Also, this vote strikes me as illogical. I also had LC narrowed down to a likely Light Blue/Reds because of my theory AND because many of the posts LC has made have been of the "I may be LMS but I'm not the threat!!!" implications in them. Even though he wasn't connected to Llama, that doesn't change the fact that many of LC's posts have implied that content. So I don't understand why TH deserved your vote just because he thought LC was an LMSer.

I do not see the same things in LC's posts which are apparently obvious to you. He has said he has one btsc partner. I do not think anyone would try to imply they are LMS. Like I said, I have not been able to narrow it down so much so I do not understand how TH has, or you for that matter. Just because you disagree it does not make it "illogical"

I do not trust you because of your general blendiness, unwillingness to see other sides, and who has been targeted for NKs I am beginning to believe you might be a railroad.

Well, I really thought that's what he's been implying, but I suppose it's possible I'm wrong. I really hate it because I thought for once I was onto something totally spot on, but Llama's reveal made me realize that I think I pursued something heavily and it was incorrect. Just because LC has said he has one BTSC partner really means nothing to me; he made plenty of defenses against accusations of mine earlier that really read to me like he was claiming "I'm not a threat!!" but didn't ever rebut the LMS suggestion.

Unwillingness to see other sides? Sure. I get that. I wanted to listen to my gut because I feel I doubt myself too much. Well, I guess there's a reason I do.

Posting less? Sure. Building less cases? Sure. But general blendiness? I'm not sure how you see my behavior this game as blendy: I crusaded with my LC and Llama theory with practically no one backing me up, I was the only one to say zeek was a civvie to my knowledge... etc. So I feel I've been just as opinionated and active in original suspicions as almost anyone else this game, probably much more so than many, so I don't understand your perception. I appreciate your elaboration, but you're wrong about me. And I'm not sure what who has been targeted for NKs has to do with me either.

Once again I feel we're not seeing eye to eye and that's why you're suspecting me.

This is just not true and you are trying to use it to discredit my opinions. I don't see eye to eye with loads of people, but I don't suspect them for it. I suspect you because I think you are bad.

I say "general blendiness" because you have only "crusaded" LC and llama. I have noticed a civvie you generally likes to give opinions on more players on almost everyone, which I haven't noticed you doing as much this game. Maybe its that you are busy? But also maybe you just aren't as interested in finding baddies? You generally post a lot as both, but with saying less as a baddie, if that makes sense. Which is what I have seen here. I don't think the "probably much more than many" holds much weight here. So many people are barely playing, do you really want to be compared to them?

Epig has posted several times that there are "baddie tells" that you do, and I think SVS knows you pretty well. That is what I mean by who has been killed. More so then anyone else this game I can see why you would want them dead.

I'm not trying to discredit your opinion; I just know you're wrong. It seems you suspect me because my playstyle this game is different because I'm really busy and distracted and posting less. Sure, all of that is true. But it doesn't mean I'm less interested in finding baddies just because I'm not manically throwing names out all over the thread. I did that enough in DW and I just don't feel as invested this game (not boo's fault, it's really entirely due to my schedule). And for when I am a baddie, what you said is just not true. If anything, I throw out more opinions when I'm bad. And regarding the "probably much more than many", I just find it odd you single me out for that when there are plenty of other players who have contributed to the same or lesser degree than me.

Epig is always very opinionated when he even slightly thinks I am bad, and in 5 whole cycles he never said anything against me. I haven't killed anyone.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not trying to discredit your opinion; I just know you're wrong. It seems you suspect me because my playstyle this game is different because I'm really busy and distracted and posting less. Sure, all of that is true. But it doesn't mean I'm less interested in finding baddies just because I'm not manically throwing names out all over the thread. I did that enough in DW and I just don't feel as invested this game (not boo's fault, it's really entirely due to my schedule). And for when I am a baddie, what you said is just not true. If anything, I throw out more opinions when I'm bad. And regarding the "probably much more than many", I just find it odd you single me out for that when there are plenty of other players who have contributed to the same or lesser degree than me.

Epig is always very opinionated when he even slightly thinks I am bad, and in 5 whole cycles he never said anything against me. I haven't killed anyone.

You have offered less to say something about though. So maybe Epig just didn't get a chance to say it, or was busy finding the other baddies that he was lynching. It's really hard to say here, but as I said, I can see you having reason to kill both of them.

Being distracted and posing less doesn't make you good either. Why do you think you should get a free pass based on it?