The Syndicate

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XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:Are you guys serious? I didnt spoil shit.

And yeah you can start with a pacifist playthrough, as long as you know you can do one. I didnt say shit about the plots or characters..

Look, what I mean is, it's possible to go into this game without knowing anything about how the gameplay relates to the endings, and that the whole game is a big message about killing and the consequences of your choices.

I've seen a playthrough of someone else who did it like that and it was awesome, he killed most of the bosses while slowly and slowly realizing what he was doing, until he finally decided the madness had to stop, so he spared Flowey at the end.

WHile in my case, I came in aware of how the three main endings were supposed to be achieved, so I played my first playthrough almost completely pacifist. It was fun, but I regret not going in blindly.

So we don't need to spoil that for more people. Don't talk about endings, please. Not even how the gameplay relates to them.

XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:And yeah you can start with a pacifist playthrough, as long as you know you can do one. I didnt say shit about the plots or characters..

Even if you start with a pacifist playthrough, you are getting the neutral ending if it's your first time.

That Giant Flower thing that looked like photoshop? That's the boss of the neutral playthrough.

Almost done with the Pacific Chist. I both picked up the gist of what that means and spoiled myself during a few places in the game, but I don't have a problem with that.

Also, TGG wasn't kidding about those sleeping-with-the-lights-on scenes...

Although, incidentally, the few hours spend playing Undertale made me worry it'll be exactly like a Pokemon-like wander through the map and getting hassled by the same local monsters every tenth square.

Wow you are playing pretty fast. Almost finishing the second playthrough already?

I posted only yesterday about playing it, but I think I started sometime during the weekend.

Why second? I mean I understand now what you've hinted at needing to play Neutral Milk Hotel until you can do Pacific Rim, nonetheless I did everything to fit the criteria and be able to wrap it up as Pacific during this first playthrough..

I'll probably redo the game by walking down the other paths as well, given that the holidays are one week and a half away and it's not like I'm doing anything with my life right now. Heck, I'll even contemplating playing it berserk once.

Three playthroughs (neutral, pacifist genocide).

Each one has a different final part. The first time you play, you will see the neutral ending, regardless of whether you killed something or not.

Though if you beat neutral without killing a thing, the game lets you skip to the final part of pacifist.

Also if you do genocide, you can never get the normal pacifist ending again, only a "tainted" version of it where the game shows you your sins are permament).

So the order most people take is neutral-pacifist-genocide. Therefore, I guessed pacifist was your second one

Also if you haven't beaten neutral yet, you have no idea what TGG means.

Yep, read about all those. Still eager to try them all. Although that genocide factor changing future re-tries is a bit of a bummer (but a good detail in the game nonetheless).

I didn't go neutral this first time, because of all the pacifist hints in here making me curious.

TGG meant what he meant re: playthroughing as pacifist, not as neutral. Although at that particular stage, it's the same thing.

Wait, does it get even more f'd up if one is on the neutral path.

I'm wrapping Asriel now and maybe I can finally end this gaawhoooolleee crap it's 4.30 am!!!

Is there a way to get past Toriel without killing her?

Other boss was the spookser I meant. Actually those fucking flower facials haunted me from the very beginning.

I was way past that and almost near the end, when I started posting here last night.

If I do a neutral playthrough the second time, will it alter future pacifist runs, the way a genocide run would?

Ys. And maybe not just her...

We wouldn't want to hurt anyone, do we...?

Oh yeah, that one. Awesome boss is awesome.

So you beat Neutral, then the game let you skip to the end of Pacifist because you hadn't killed anything, and you beat pacifist. Nice.

Nope, only Genocide does that afaik. Though if you beat Neutral again, the only things you might get are a slightly different ending depending on who you kill/date (there are 20 of them, so you should probably watch them on youtube some time), and some cool death scenes for the characters you kill (Undyne on neutral has a particulary sad death scene). Genocide is completely different because as soon as you leave the ruins, the game starts treating you as the mass murderer you are, so basically every major scene is changed.

Of course, if you try to play anything after Pacifist, the game will let you know how much of a monster you are for undoing their happiness.

tfw I'm watching a Neutral playthrough on YouTube to see if the differences are enough to be worth a replay (although the guy figures out how to spare early on, so I guess it's not that conclusive) and in two videos out of 10, the guy just livechats with his followers whilst playing about his gay sexual preferences