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Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:13 pm
by Epignosis
Thanks to those who had some real skin in the game. I love a game when I don't know who is winning.

You're all winners. :hug:

Wait no, this Biblical Mafia. If you lose, you are cast outside where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth. :feb:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:14 pm
by thellama73
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:Yay MP - I had no idea any of those were you. I was Jonathan first and then Bathsheba. Bathsheba was Noah.
You were Bathsheba! I'm so glad you got to win. Your lynch as Jonathan was a travesty!
A travesty of my making. :feb:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:14 pm
by DharmaHelper
Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Oh, so it was Famine? Thank You :)
Correct. I was surprised he used his one "super power" as soon as he did, but that's DH for you. :p
Better to use it when I can, and cripple early game discussion, rather than risk not using it and getting NKed.
I was surprised at how a lot of folks chose to use their powers.

While I can't fault you for burning it early, I was surprised. I personally would have waited until Night 3 or 4, hoping that some of the more talkative ones were dead already.
Shit, I was too scared I'd be killed by N4

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:14 pm
by Tangrowth
Golden wrote: @MP - it is ridiculous how many of those questions I had preached on. Like, I've only preached maybe 15-20 sermons in my time, and so many questions for from exactly those passages.

But also, I was faster at googling than everyone else, so people lost both ways.
I was one of the participants and I knew it wasn't Daisy since she was at work so I figured it had to be you!

As soon as I found out it was Bible trivia (which I should have expected), I gave up, really. I was the one who hardly said anything. :P

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:15 pm
by Epignosis
Golden wrote:@MP - it is ridiculous how many of those questions I had preached on. Like, I've only preached maybe 15-20 sermons in my time, and so many questions for from exactly those passages.
I am preaching tomorrow morning.

My passage? The parable of the talents.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:15 pm
by XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Another fun fact: Until Day 5, we were scrambling a bit on how to handle damage control. Every day that Uzziah was alive, we almost threw him under the bus. We were genuinely shocked that it took you guys that long to gather majority against him and not somebody else.

I tried to defend him a bit but I made it extremely neutral sounding, aside from shaming you guys for taking the easy road lmao

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:15 pm
by thellama73
Golden wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Helo,
My name is Absalom and I'm a Horseman of the Apocalypse.
I knew you were horseman for such a long time. I just couldn't get any purchase on you.

After lynching Belshazzar, I realised lynching you might not be the best idea anyway.

@MP - it is ridiculous how many of those questions I had preached on. Like, I've only preached maybe 15-20 sermons in my time, and so many questions for from exactly those passages.

But also, I was faster at googling than everyone else, so people lost both ways.
When I was NKed, I was about to flip so hard on you and try to get you lynched. I'm curious about whether I could have pulled it off.




I think I could have.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:15 pm
by Tangrowth
thellama73 wrote:
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:Yay MP - I had no idea any of those were you. I was Jonathan first and then Bathsheba. Bathsheba was Noah.
You were Bathsheba! I'm so glad you got to win. Your lynch as Jonathan was a travesty!
A travesty of my making. :feb:
That was well played, I knew juliets was Jonathan and was thinking she was civilian, but you convinced me you were onto something there.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:16 pm
by Golden
Epignosis wrote:Rahab - Niju
I thought you were Roxy :sigh:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:16 pm
by Tangrowth
XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:Another fun fact: Until Day 5, we were scrambling a bit on how to handle damage control. Every day that Uzziah was alive, we almost threw him under the bus. We were genuinely shocked that it took you guys that long to gather majority against him and not somebody else.

I tried to defend him a bit but I made it extremely neutral sounding, aside from shaming you guys for taking the easy road lmao
I can't imagine how much you guys must have discussed the Vompatti/Uzziah situation. I was shocked at how long he lasted myself.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:17 pm
by Golden
Oh, llama you had the thread around your little finger... I was so glad when you got NKed. It got thread leading momentum back onto my side. I did not trust you at all.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:18 pm
by Epignosis
Golden wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Rahab - Niju
I thought you were Roxy :sigh:
I laughed so hard at this!

Dude: How many "tbqh" and "made my nose twitch" posts did you see? :haha:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:18 pm
by Golden
DharmaHelper wrote:
First, I was Paul. Civilian.
You loudmouthed bastard.

I was Nico/Famine, and my win condition was dependent on the number of posts at endgame. :suspish:
I figured Nico might be famine. Because I had seen things I chalked up to famine and they never happened again after you died.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:18 pm
by XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Epignosis wrote:Thanks to those who had some real skin in the game.
What are you talking about smooth skin?

No really though. That line about skin and the fact that I am currently playing Fallout made me think of trying to design a Fallout game.

Brotherhood of Steel, the Enclave, NCR, Tribal Raiders, so many angles I could design.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:18 pm
by thellama73
Golden wrote:Oh, llama you had the thread around your little finger... I was so glad when you got NKed. It got thread leading momentum back onto my side. I did not trust you at all.
I am honestly baffled every game at how eager people are to follow me. I really do not feel like much of a leader.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:20 pm
by Golden
I would like to say at this point that I had guesses for who was behin many socks and the only ones I had right are ones that I either saw or were made clear in the thread.

I thought SVS was Jephthah, because I have a tendency to incorrectly lynch her.

Basically, never trust me if I tell you I think I know who is behind a sock.

@Elo - you played Esther sooooo well.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:20 pm
by Tangrowth
Epignosis wrote:
Golden wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Rahab - Niju
I thought you were Roxy :sigh:
I laughed so hard at this!

Dude: How many "tbqh" and "made my nose twitch" posts did you see? :haha:
I know, right?

Roxy was obviously Cain from the get go, in my opinion. :P

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:22 pm
by Tangrowth
I actually was reading everyone with their actual metas in mind since I could peg so many players immediately. I wish I hadn't been doing that since it read me to give Elo more of a pass.

That's why I defended Isaac so hard. I KNEW it was Devin and I could tell he was being genuine.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:22 pm
by Golden
Elohcin wrote:And, I haven't been able to say ONE thing about my kids all game. So...Simon learned to swim today!!!
Lazarus?

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:23 pm
by Tangrowth
Bass was Lazarus, Simon was Gideon.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:23 pm
by Golden
thellama73 wrote:(Why didn't the Heathens ever kill him? He was such an obvious target?)
Why kill the guy Lazarus is going to get lynched? The moment that happened, I knew I had a shot at winning.

@MP - I meant the zealot.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:24 pm
by thellama73
MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass was Lazarus, Simon was Gideon.
Gideon just now learned how to swim?

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:25 pm
by Epignosis
Simon is Bass? :kadaj:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:26 pm
by thellama73
Epignosis wrote:Simon is Bass? :kadaj:
Pretty sure bass already know how to swim.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:26 pm
by Tangrowth
This thread. :haha:

Thanks again for the game, Epi. It was so much fun. I'm glad I went ahead and decided to play after all.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:28 pm
by Golden
I thought Gamerguy was Pilate.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:29 pm
by Golden
I don't normally sign up for more than one game at once. Playing this and economics at the same time was incredibly taxing, I have to say! But at least I just got to balance out everyone thinking I'm bad for the next several months.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:30 pm
by Golden
thellama73 wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Golden once again blew me away with his civilian play. That guy is epic.

Seriously, HEathens, why didn't you kill Lot? I even made it so Deborah couldn't win unless you killed him, and you still wouldn't do it. It was driving me nuts!
He was cursed to vote Lazarus and it was to our voting advantage to keep it that way :biggrin:
Oops, I did that. I thought Laz was Simon the Zealot, and thought maybe I could get Lot that way.
I knew that was you.

I was so hopeful when you were NKed that it would end, but no.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:31 pm
by Ricochet
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:who was Amor in the first Bible jeopardy? Was it nutella?
ME!
Thanks a LOT for the day off. :dark: Did Balaam also get off the poll because he was your BTSC teamie, then?

I didn't sign up for Bible trivias knowing I'd suck ass. Then I lurked as spectator during the second one, Epig revealed it wouldn't be actual Bible stuff, but Bible allusions in art stuff, so when Samson didn't show up, I jumped in and then also won.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:38 pm
by Golden
thellama73 wrote:I'm glad nobody was around to see how pissed off I was after Ruth got rezzed (and Golden wanted to NOT lynch her!)

I was working so hard to finish off my marks, to have one suddenly pop back alive was infuriating. :haha:
I had three goals there...

One was to get the baddies to show their hand
One was to start getting people to look more closely at you, because I wanted you dead
One was that I wanted people to start using their brains and not following blindly

I think it achieved the first two, at least.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:40 pm
by Golden
MovingPictures07 wrote:
nutella wrote:That whole sounding-like-another-site ploy was really clever, you had me fooled :p
I was hoping it would work. It was really difficult to maintain at times, that's for sure. I actually forced myself to post from my phone as much as possible in order to keep myself from posting long posts. :haha:
I had you from the very start. But I never would have guessed it was you. Would have expected someone more like llama or MM.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:42 pm
by Golden
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I had my "Balaam and Lot are John and James" theory written down as soon as Lot vouched for you, G-Man.
Same.
That was my intent.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:43 pm
by Golden
Ricochet wrote:
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:who was Amor in the first Bible jeopardy? Was it nutella?
ME!
Thanks a LOT for the day off. :dark: Did Balaam also get off the poll because he was your BTSC teamie, then?

I didn't sign up for Bible trivias knowing I'd suck ass. Then I lurked as spectator during the second one, Epig revealed it wouldn't be actual Bible stuff, but Bible allusions in art stuff, so when Samson didn't show up, I jumped in and then also won.
I got to pick one to take off, naturally I picked him.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:45 pm
by juliets
You were Amor Golden? I was your rabid spectator! Lol! You did incredible in that game - I couldn't believe the things you knew. Awesome!

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:56 pm
by Dom
Ricochet wrote:So it turns out most of the Prophets were slackers.

Dom, I also had Rachel/you tagged as possible Zealot, but Bass completely drew in with his gameplay. As I've hinted once, Bass isn't usually the subtle player with his abilities (think Film Directors, when he called MM bad both in the thread AND in his Night messages, lol), so that's why I really doubted he could be anything but the Zealot.

Boy though, did he really mess things around with his Zealot-insinuating game.
Once I figured out he was probably civvie, I decided it was okay that he was imitating my role.
XthAtGAm3RGuYX wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Thanks to those who had some real skin in the game.
What are you talking about smooth skin?

No really though. That line about skin and the fact that I am currently playing Fallout made me think of trying to design a Fallout game.

Brotherhood of Steel, the Enclave, NCR, Tribal Raiders, so many angles I could design.
THIS THIS

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:06 pm
by Ricochet
Any clarification on what the D0 poll choices led to (if anything)? Us Law-voters got told to respect the commendements (rules), nothing else.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:12 pm
by Ricochet
Also, a chuckle I totally forgot about: on my lynch day, it turns out I asked Phinehas/Rebecca to spear herself (as she was my top suspect) instead of me. No wonder she didn't listen. :haha:

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:14 pm
by Golden
juliets wrote:You were Amor Golden? I was your rabid spectator! Lol! You did incredible in that game - I couldn't believe the things you knew. Awesome!
Don't believe it. Thing's like Hosea's prostitute I just googled. Yay for you being my rabid spectator lol! It made me miss jeopardy!

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:15 pm
by Golden
Also can I say - G-Man deserved every bit of this win and I'm sorry he couldn't share in it.

He continued to provide me with advice and technicolour lists long after he died.

The effort he was putting in to this at the same time as economics was immense.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:21 pm
by Ricochet
Maybe team win condition for two/three-civ BTSCs should be implemented.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:23 pm
by XthAtGAm3RGuYX
Ricochet wrote:Any clarification on what the D0 poll choices led to (if anything)? Us Law-voters got told to respect the commendements (rules), nothing else.
People who voted for Apocalypse knew about the Bible Trivia game from day one. We were told it was coming, but not when it was happening.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:26 pm
by dodo
All cleaned out!

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:31 pm
by Marmot
When I saw Snow Dog post, I was really hoping he was one of the socks in this game.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:35 pm
by juliets
Just fyi everyone, both my socks had messages in Sent Mail from previous games. Don't forget to clean out Sent Messages along with the Inbox.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:37 pm
by Sockys2023
Samson is clean.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:37 pm
by Larry David
I cleared all messages pertaining to this game. Mordecai is now ready for future usage

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:39 pm
by juliets
Oh, I forgot to say, bathsheba and jonathan are also clean and back to the original password.

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:42 pm
by Dom
juliets wrote:Just fyi everyone, both my socks had messages in Sent Mail from previous games. Don't forget to clean out Sent Messages along with the Inbox.
THIS I FORGOT THANKS~

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:43 pm
by DharmaHelper
Yeah Nicodemus is cleaned out. Also, you're welcome whoever had that sockpuppet last :P

Re: Biblical Mafia [ENDGAME]

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:46 pm
by G-Man
S~V~S wrote:@Epi, how DID all those people get silenced Night 1? Four, I think?

Linki~ :hugs:

But I really was silenced.
Huh. Well then I had three of the five Heathens pegged and just got really lucky with you because I never believed you were silenced. :biggrin:


Dom wrote: G-Man and Golden-- you always amaze me, Bravo!
Dom, please tell me- what did I do to amaze you? Or are referring to Golden and my BTSC efforts?

Also, I've been trying to figure out where I know you from before because you feel so familiar to me. Which of the following did we play together at: Lostpedia, The Piano, SpoilerTV?

I don't see your name in any of my past game spreadsheets but I'm finding that I wasn't very good at keeping record of all my past exploits.



MovingPictures07 wrote:
G-Man wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I knew it was you around Day 2 or so. I knew I wasn't the one making technicolor lists and a few of the posts you made sounded very much like you. In addition, the technicolor lists could only be a handful of players or less and I knew how much you loved spreadsheet and analysis in seeing your Secret Mafia games.

I loved your Dear Living Players posts and I'm fortunate you gave this game your all. You really played an outstanding game. One of the most inspired civilian games I've seen in recent memory.
MovingPictures07 wrote:G-Man:
MovingPictures07 wrote:And NOW I can finally say that I knew Balaam was G-Man and that's why I mainly thought he was faking the pictures in Economics because I saw civilian G-Man in full action here and he was SO DIFFERENT in Economics.
I'm so glad I can finally explain this to you.
My level of involvement in this game was a major factor into my decision to post in pictures in the Econ game. I would have been overextended to the max! :nicenod:
See, that's what I figured, but then even after your death in here, you weren't your Balaam overanalytical self in Econ, and it kept throwing me off. That's why I waited so long (until D4) to really go after you for it.
I didn't want to take my Balaam game over to Econ even though it would have been much easier for me to do so. I can see why my decision not to contributed to you thinking I was bad. I committed to that picture thing and I was sticking with it doggone it! Besides, I was honestly hoping to avoid being Mr. Overanalytical like I was back in the day on The Piano. I guess old habits die hard! Besides, I try to play differently every game. At least that's how I rolled back in my STV days.


MovingPictures07 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:who was Amor in the first Bible jeopardy? Was it nutella?
ME!
I knew it!

Only you or Daisy could perform that well on Bible questions. :haha:
Now, Esther/Eloh thought it was G Man.
Ah, that's a good guess actually, I didn't really think of a G-Man possibility.
Oh wow. Elo thought I rocked the Bible game? No. I may have married a pastor's daughter, but I don't know my Bible well enough to win a trivia game. Besides, I was busy with RL plans when both games happened.


Golden wrote:G-Man!!! My buddy was G-Man!

How ridiculously appropriate is that, given economics.

G-Man, it was so great to get to play with you. And I can't believe you didn't rat me out in economics when I accidentally logged into our chat room as golden. I must have covered that one well.
Golden, the Coward ;) - it was fun having BTSC with you! We rocked it pretty well. I really think we balanced each other out pretty well in our chat. You're much more even keel than I am. I spent half the game mired in paranoia and you just seemed to brush it off. Thanks for listening to my many theories and rants. I'm glad you only took my advice on most of the ones that turned out to be right. :D

I didn't see any need to mention your accidental outing to the Econ hosts. You unsocked yourself for Biblical but you didn't post anything that gave away your identity in Econ. I didn't even think it could have meant you got your BTSC chats mixed up too. I guess I'm a little dense like that. :fist: Did you notice when I accidentally logged in as Marx before the Econ reset?


Golden wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Golden wrote:
juliets wrote:who was Amor in the first Bible jeopardy? Was it nutella?
ME!
Thanks a LOT for the day off. :dark: Did Balaam also get off the poll because he was your BTSC teamie, then?

I didn't sign up for Bible trivias knowing I'd suck ass. Then I lurked as spectator during the second one, Epig revealed it wouldn't be actual Bible stuff, but Bible allusions in art stuff, so when Samson didn't show up, I jumped in and then also won.
I got to pick one to take off, naturally I picked him.
That was so clutch. I'm pretty sure you guys would have lynched me on Day 6 had I been on that poll. Good thing Golden and I were tight. :beer:


Golden wrote:Also can I say - G-Man deserved every bit of this win and I'm sorry he couldn't share in it.

He continued to provide me with advice and technicolour lists long after he died.

The effort he was putting in to this at the same time as economics was immense.
:blush: :beer:

I'm okay with not getting a winner's badge for this game. Honestly, I am just so glad that you got the win after all the extra technicolor lists I made for you. I still feel like a winner because of it. :nicenod: