The Syndicate

for some reason every time I see or hear the word "meta" I immediately think of The Dark Tower VI: Song of Susannah.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I definitely recall talk of "meta" back at LP, but not as much as it's occurred since TS's inception.

I dont' think we called it meta, but I definitely remember linknig back to old games on LP.

So here's a wrap-up of what I got, of course it's still wildly incomplete, without every action and event being in its place and making sense, but it's the most up to date form.

This analysis still doesn't reveal why nobody (except SVS) wanted to recruit me or award my contest submissions.

Game!
Votes!
Theories! (lol at how dumb I imagined the epic challenges might be)

Also as a reminder of my efforts throughout the game:

The Story of Golden
The Story of Everyone Alive, Part I and Part II.

Black Rock wrote:Starting Clan Dynamics

Children of Serenity - They are at peace with the Guardians and Brotherhood. They don't like the Warriors or the Sorcerers.

Guardians of the Lifeforce - They are at peace with the Children and Warriors. They don't like the Brotherhood or the Sorcerers.

Warriors of the Shadows - They are at peace with the Guardians and Brotherhood. They don't like the Children or the Sorcerers.

Sorcerers of the Elements - They are not at peace. They don't like any one.

Brotherhood of the Inner Eye - They are at peace with the Children and the Warriors. They don't like the Guardians or the Sorcerers.

Did this affect the game in any way?

So Devin was the one who took out Typhoony Night 1.

No, Llama did. Timmer switched their powers (I'm not sure who the third player was - LoRab?). Devin got fluff messaging as Keeper of Ravens, Llama got Executioner kill.

I forgot to bring up why I thought there was two nights - it is bc there were TWO NIGHTS!

The first night I got to use my power. The second night I did not get to use my power bc LC gave me the lame reason that the game *must* go on and could not be stuck in perpetual night. (jk LC) Then I was silenced the second night.

I say two night bc of my perspective at the time felt like two nights.

Using my power then not being able to use my power
Not being silenced then was silenced

Get it?

Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

Roxy wrote:I forgot to bring up why I thought there was two nights - it is bc there were TWO NIGHTS!

The first night I got to use my power. The second night I did not get to use my power bc LC gave me the lame reason that the game *must* go on and could not be stuck in perpetual night. (jk LC) Then I was silenced the second night.

I say two night bc of my perspective at the time felt like two nights.

Using my power then not being able to use my power
Not being silenced then was silenced

Get it?

Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

Yes, but "restarting a Night" means that it's a repeat of the same Night. That's our perception of it.

Ricochet wrote:

Roxy wrote:I forgot to bring up why I thought there was two nights - it is bc there were TWO NIGHTS!

The first night I got to use my power. The second night I did not get to use my power bc LC gave me the lame reason that the game *must* go on and could not be stuck in perpetual night. (jk LC) Then I was silenced the second night.

I say two night bc of my perspective at the time felt like two nights.

Using my power then not being able to use my power
Not being silenced then was silenced

Get it?

Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

Yes, but "restarting a Night" means that it's a repeat of the same Night. That's our perception of it.

But how can it be the "same night" when targets shifted and changed? Can't be a repeat bc if it was I would have used my ability in an endless cycle.

Roxy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Roxy wrote:I forgot to bring up why I thought there was two nights - it is bc there were TWO NIGHTS!

The first night I got to use my power. The second night I did not get to use my power bc LC gave me the lame reason that the game *must* go on and could not be stuck in perpetual night. (jk LC) Then I was silenced the second night.

I say two night bc of my perspective at the time felt like two nights.

Using my power then not being able to use my power
Not being silenced then was silenced

Get it?

Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

Yes, but "restarting a Night" means that it's a repeat of the same Night. That's our perception of it.

But how can it be the "same night" when targets shifted and changed? Can't be a repeat bc if it was I would have used my ability in an endless cycle.

It's the same night, because we have to send them over again (I don't recall if double-targetting was in effect or not, but it's the same thing). It's not a change, it's a redo. You're the only exception, because of your inherent ability to restart the night endlessly, if allowed.

It's just like, when in Film Directors, the Day was restarted after a bad lynch. It wasn't a second Day i.e. Day 2. It was Day 1 again, despite our targets shifting and changing (i.e. not lynching again the same guy).

A restart is not a verbatim redo. That'd be Groundhog Day Mafia material.

I was not the only exception.

If it was the same night then I would have never been silenced.

If it was double targeting then that implies a new night.

Again, you restarted the Night. That was your actual power. It was a second version of the same Night 9.

Ricochet wrote:Again, you restarted the Night. That was your actual power. It was a second version of the same Night 9.

Are you yelling at your computer yet?

I am sorry I am just fucking with you bc it is fun to wind you up

Roxy wrote:I forgot to bring up why I thought there was two nights - it is bc there were TWO NIGHTS!

The first night I got to use my power. The second night I did not get to use my power bc LC gave me the lame reason that the game *must* go on and could not be stuck in perpetual night. (jk LC) Then I was silenced the second night.

I say two night bc of my perspective at the time felt like two nights.

Using my power then not being able to use my power
Not being silenced then was silenced

Get it?

Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

That was our doing (per SVS's suggestions). She knew you were the judge after that "two nights in a row" commentary, and we didn't want our actions getting skipped again. Also I don't recall what clan your role was aligned as, but that one had come up in Devin's cycle, so he killed you.

Since Caelia got the nightkill in on Night 7, I tinfoiled that you were in cahoots with Caelia and had to go.

Roxy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Again, you restarted the Night. That was your actual power. It was a second version of the same Night 9.

Are you yelling at your computer yet?

I am sorry I am just fucking with you bc it is fun to wind you up

Me doing that? Never.

*votes Roxy*

oops my hand slipped

what's that? the game's over?

Roxy wrote:
Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

I was dead by then, and while I tried to talk them out of it, since you had not looked our way even once, we thought the Judge was on Caelia becasue of the way when day ended, DH jumped in, voted for his best option, put in the kill on me, and then night ended. At that point I don't think we thought you were the Judge, I think we thought it was Timmer, but after you started getting indignant when people were suspecting you for your opinion on the two nights it became pretty clear, lol. I did not want to kill you, but it was not my call.

I wanted to recruit you. When we had the list challenge, you were one of the names I put on it, but the Judge was not one of the roles aapje felt to be most advantageous for us. Did you submit a picture to the picture challenge?

Ricochet wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Again, you restarted the Night. That was your actual power. It was a second version of the same Night 9.

Are you yelling at your computer yet?

I am sorry I am just fucking with you bc it is fun to wind you up

Me doing that? Never.

*votes Roxy*

oops my hand slipped

what's that? the game's over?

S~V~S wrote:

Roxy wrote:
Also why was I killed? I felt it was clear that I was unrecruited and I played my role to cause pure chaos.

I was dead by then, and while I tried to talk them out of it, since you had not looked our way even once, we thought the Judge was on Caelia becasue of the way when day ended, DH jumped in, voted for his best option, put in the kill on me, and then night ended. At that point I don't think we thought you were the Judge, I think we thought it was Timmer, but after you started getting indignant when people were suspecting you for your opinion on the two nights it became pretty clear, lol. I did not want to kill you, but it was not my call.

I wanted to recruit you. When we had the list challenge, you were one of the names I put on it, but the Judge was not one of the roles aapje felt to be most advantageous for us. Did you submit a picture to the picture challenge?

Aww SVS <3

I never omce tried for a recruitment (for either side) at any time.

I tried once to get recruited..the first public one. After that I became committed to staying neutral

What positions would you have gotten if recruited?

For that matter, I still don't know what Epig's real positions were?

reywaS wrote:I tried once to get recruited..the first public one. After that I became committed to staying neutral

We saw your photobucket info on the picture

I submitted a picture to be recruited by Ubzargan, but mine was never included it seems.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I submitted a picture to be recruited by Ubzargan, but mine was never included it seems.

I don't know how that happened at all.

This was my submission.

Yeah that was the recruit that we got aapje. So I had 2 Dutchies, I was in Dutchie heaven. It could have been better, but then Llama killed Typhoony

Metalmarsh89 wrote:This was my submission.

I don't remember seeing this at all.

I got aapje first

Black Rock wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:This was my submission.

I don't remember seeing this at all.

That's weird. I double-checked my Sent Folder and it was there.

Maybe it was fate.

Don't worry, MM. It's not as bad and not being told you were recruited until dying a lonely death.

Ricochet wrote:Don't worry, MM. It's not as bad and not being told you were recruited until dying a lonely death.

It was non-BTSC anyways. You would have been lonely anyways.

Black Rock wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Don't worry, MM. It's not as bad and not being told you were recruited until dying a lonely death.

It was non-BTSC anyways. You would have been lonely anyways.

Not in spirit.

Although I understand I wouldn't have even been told who the team consists of, so not much to it, lol.

S~V~S wrote:

reywaS wrote:I tried once to get recruited..the first public one. After that I became committed to staying neutral

We saw your photobucket info on the picture

lol yeah Tranq told me about that in IRC.

Black Rock wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Don't worry, MM. It's not as bad and not being told you were recruited until dying a lonely death.

It was non-BTSC anyways. You would have been lonely anyways.

Black Rock wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Don't worry, MM. It's not as bad and not being told you were recruited until dying a lonely death.

It was non-BTSC anyways. You would have been lonely anyways.

Yes. Yes you would have.

Oops, wrong thread, lol.

Can I haz a stellar banner?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Can I haz a stellar banner?

Yes you can. I'll get my graphics guy to whip one up for me.

He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

So you are saying I should deny him

No

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

Reminds me of when I won Kill Bill Mafia by being Bill and getting killed.

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

You forgot the win he got by getting Alex to do the macarena.

Turnip Head wrote:

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

Reminds me of when I won Kill Bill Mafia by being Bill and getting killed.

That was my first win on TP, it is still dear to my heart

i was one of the, I forget the name, we were two opposing groups, that won as a group regardless of the main faction winner by outnumbering the other group. I was partners with Bleag.

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

You just wish you could win games by such unreal methods.

Getting lynched Day 1 is an art.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

You just wish you could win games by such unreal methods.

Getting lynched Day 1 is an art.

I just wish you'd take me along, like old times.

I know that feel, the only time I got lynched on Day 1 I accomplished that with only four posts.

Golden wrote:

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

You forgot the win he got by getting Alex to do the macarena.

That's what he got that banner for?? PRICELESS

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:He's gotten so many by now. Two of them for being unlynchable. One just for dying D1 and getting to hang out with me.

You just wish you could win games by such unreal methods.

Getting lynched Day 1 is an art.

Just copy and paste BWT's style and mannerism on all Day 1s. He's perfected it

Speaking of banners, my signature is feeling rather small right now.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Speaking of banners, my signature is feeling rather small right now.