This is a bit hypocritical, Mr. Double Self-Voter. lolMovingPictures07 wrote:TinyBubbles just committed another drive by vote...
How is this acceptable? If she's a civilian at this point then she's clearly a liability, unwilling to even post her suspicions as she votes for them. Hopefully she's just a lazy mafia.
She gets my vote. Just popping in before teaching, so apologies in advance for my absence today. Long day ahead of me
Why are one of Elo or boo mafia? I find these kind of dualities very often lead to follow-the-opponent lynches, where we go in circles lynching the person who came out hardest against the last person we lynched.Made wrote:To further elaborate on Ice Bear's "reads" game, as Ice Bear see it, Either Elo is mafia or Boo is mafia, but not both. This of course means that at least one player is currently fooling Ice Bear.
Further thinking required.
To me, DF hasn't said anything overtly pingy. He's clearly somewhat busy, and his posts mostly consist of concisely explaining his votes. I can read it one of two ways, pretty much equally easily: 1) he seems to be following his nose and going after people for sound reasons, or 2) he's going after relatively easy targets and getting a free pass because they're acting wacky. He gives my gut the heebie-jeebies just a little bit, but I don't have anything votable on him right now.
Blooper's non-matching number of mafia feels civ-isn to me in and of itself. I actually find it slightly suspicious that Made (it was Made, right?) had exactly 4 baddie hunches. That feels calculated, like it's something a baddie would think about during the game to avoid looking weird, while a civ might not care so much. MP, can you elaborate on whether anything like that has helped in The Game before? And in general on what results you've seen from it? Is it generally used for immediate results, or do you let things play out a few days to see where a baddie might be bussing or buddying or whatever?
@FZ.: Yeah that's fair on Elo, I suppose. My thing is, people give her a hard time for a "crappy civ game" all the time, and it usually gets her lynched eventually. I think you have to look at Elo's style within her own personal meta. She sometimes does wacky things that don't make sense to others.
I haven't read LoRab back yet today, so I'll do that now. I'm not confident about my read on her though, since in Watchmen I just had her as a bad read and she was good (although I will admit in that case I didn't particularly care, since I was the LMS.
I don't necessarily think two drive by votes are alignment-indicative. They are stinky for the rest of us, for sure, because they don't give us anything to work with in future days, which is why a civ shouldn't/wouldn't do them. However, they also are a terrific way to get tons of suspicion, which is why both baddies and civs would avoid them. I'd have to look at the context around it, and there's not much there from Tiny. Her reasoning in hindsight looks terrible to me. She basically says the majority is usually right and/or that not ALL the votes could be for llama. Also, she completely ignores that llama was after her first, so her vote amounts to a NO U, and that she voted him to get the Golden Egg, indicating she thought he seemed civ-isn. Now of course that was D0, but still. Also, Spacedaisy had as many votes as llama did when she voted him. Clearly it wasn't a baddie protect of Daisy since she was good, so I dunno why a baddie would bother, but everything else about her play this game looks just awful.
On a first read I'd be 100% ok voting Tiny today. I just need to decide if it's too easy.
Fiddler on the Roof
I feel like I'm speaking Chinese and seeing things that others are not seeing, and vice versa. Maybe I'm the blind one.
and good luck civs
Even though I wasn't 100% sure you were a civ, you are definitely a loss for the game.
