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Bela Fleck wrote:Are you willing to listen now? After I was already saying he was cop? And that he was town?Chris Potter wrote:Fuck. I guess Vomps isn't the kind of guy who defends himself.
Free jazz is too expensive in Finland.
And that Mingus needs to be quiet now if he's town
Did you really think that would convince us?Bela Fleck wrote:lynch is on probable cop. not joining
It should of given a pause at least, it sucks not being able to post proper and working overnights now doesn't it?Chris Potter wrote:Bela Fleck wrote:Are you willing to listen now? After I was already saying he was cop? And that he was town?Chris Potter wrote:Fuck. I guess Vomps isn't the kind of guy who defends himself.
Free jazz is too expensive in Finland.
And that Mingus needs to be quiet now if he's town
Wow, you really did spare no effort to tell us that he was cop:
Did you really think that would convince us?Bela Fleck wrote:lynch is on probable cop. not joining
Let's see, terrible votes, inacitve, night kill.Charles Mingus wrote:This is one instance where knowing the player behind the sock would have changed my mind completely, quite a shame. I still don't see any actual reasons for suspecting Hiromi yet and I will fight a lynch against her tomorrow.
John Coltrane wrote:The fact he got lynched was stupid. If hirome isn't mafia then whoever, pushed the wagon on him is.
I could get behind a Dixon lynch tomorrow but I'd prefer to ISO everyone first before I vote. I won't publicize whatever I might find, however.John Coltrane wrote:Dixon is most likely mafia. He was the other counterwagon day 1 yet neither tito nor bubles voted for or pushed his wagon. Dixon also didn't vote for Buble's AND he didn't vote for tito. TWO times he didn't vote for mafia, and for day 2 actively tried to get Fleck lynched over tito.
Votes for Mingus without mentioning him at all, strange vote but it is just day 1.Bill Dixon wrote:I'd like to cast my vote for Charles Mingus, seein' as he's a most likely to be th' one draggin' and huffin' and puffin' and toutin'.
So we see some mafia distancing here, you seem like mafia but I'll give ya benefit of the doubt.Bill Dixon wrote:Mr. Buble, I can't say I'm a fan of your music personally, and I'm not sure I would consider your playin' or singin' to be the genuine expression we here jazz folks hold in regard, but I can say that so far your responses feel real sincere. I'm willin' ta give you the benefit of the doubt time bein'.
First time he mention Coleman, this is the start of his attempt to get our cop lynched.Bill Dixon wrote:Interestin' that there's a no-lynch option heah. Mr. Coleman, I know you and I may have slightly... diff'rent thoughts on what is considered "in-tune" but surely ya gotta admit someone was way off in that rehearsal?
Bill Dixon wrote:Th' Mafia Godfatha hisself gets taken out on Day 1? Hoo-wee, I seen me many a bad session turn out somethin' lovely but nothin' ever quite so spec-TACulah.
Now, the lovely Miss Holiday (and beg pardon, miss, but you do look jus' gorgeous tonigh') brings up a point Ah'd like to consider. We cut the head offa the snake pretty quickly heah but I'm thinkin' : what if these bad cats saw they boss man wann't long fo' this world and threw him unna the bus, so t' speak, to try'n get off scott free?
Bear with me, heah. I ain't so down with the lingo these kids is speakin' these days. Music the only language I speak, man. But I think I heard some fella callin' it, pardon my lack of creativity heah, these sessions do tend to wear an ol' man out, "bussin'", am I wrong?
I'mma think the first two people who voted to kick out Mr. Buble ah likely t' be playin' the straight n' narrow of it all. I'ma bit more worried here bout the fellas on the end.
Some defense for his Buble thoughts, he uses roleplaying as a way to mask his attempts to not vote for his teammate. Not much here besides him wiggling outta a lynch.Bill Dixon wrote:Brotha Fats was not deservin' of none such treatment. This is some reeeeal sinistuh activity goin' on. Rest in jazz, brotha Fats.
Who among us heah coulda done such a terribuh thang? Ah'm thinkin' when Ah get back from mah rehearsal, I'mma take a closer look at some of y'all and report back with some thoughts.
I'd like to address Miles with regards to the passin' of that Buble fella: my thoughts were that I warn't a fan o' his character, like he seemed pretty outta place and outta his league. He seemed fairly eager to just fit in an' contribute a few bars, an' I thought maybe I was judgin' 'im too harshly. I'm very much guilty of puttin' a personality to the music, thinkin' erryone got the same sorta mode uh emotional expression us old timers do, not playin' anythin' we don' mean. But I was wrong, and that fella was a rat. He was jus' tryna play along for more nefarious purposes, fit in witha crowd n' trya destroy 'em from th' inside. I was judgin' 'em by 'is music, thinkin' it insincere and maybe chalkin' up differences to diff'rent generations, but it turns out the weasel was just as false as he music.
I done pulled the wool over mine own eyes, so ta speak. I ain't never takin' my eyes off the notes again, and I'mma stick with my gut, tha's for sure.
Another post to set up Coleman.Bill Dixon wrote:'s that a thing? Sho' would make my life easier.Chris Potter wrote:And Bill Dixon, goddamn it man, are you using Jive Speak Translate?
Ornette Coleman wrote:Why are you defending him so vehemently though? It's not like it matters if we accidentally lynch a civ or two.The hell you sayin', Coleman? I'm gettin' some veeeery diff'rent sorta vibes from these posts an' am begginin' to question your intentions.Ornette Coleman wrote:If you would stoop to participating in a lynch just to avoid helping the bad guys, you are no better than them.Fats Navarro wrote: No Lynch Voters
Coleman - Why are you voting the one thing to help the bad guys?
First you take a position of no-lynch to avoid potentially clappin' a fellow player, now you sayin' it don' matter if a few good guys kick the can?
I don't vibe with this one bit, man.
Then this, very weak reasoning for a vote, espacilly when we had someone who was very obvious mafia. THIS WAS another attempt to avoid teammate/start a counterwagon.Bill Dixon wrote:Mr. Coleman, I was hopin' to have a slightly more concrete case to think about in th' wake of th' vote today, but I'm startin' to think yo lookin' a little more worrisome than anyone else here. I think you got my vote now.
Well his Coleman wagon doesn't take off, so he switches to Fleck in an attempt to protect Tito his scum buddy. He dislikes Fleck's town no other reason. Notice Silver his main defender was killed this same night after the push on Fleck failed and a mafia member was lynched instead?Bill Dixon wrote:Hrmm. I guess as it stands, my vote for Mr. Coleman don' mean much, huh?Vince Guaraldi wrote:Mr. Dixon, I beg you to place your vote on either Tito or Fleck. As it stands, there will be a tie if Tito shows up and tries to save himself. Let's pick sides on these two and see how any vote changing shakes out.
I think I mentioned before I'd rather Tito have a chance to 'splain his position. Don't like how he ain't been here, but I'm feelin' more strongly 'bout the case made against Mr. Fleck-tone. If it's in th' best interest of the band, I'll begrudgin'ly switch to Mr. Fleck.
I have twice had to vote to save myself.Bela Fleck wrote:Let's see, terrible votes, inacitve, night kill.Charles Mingus wrote:This is one instance where knowing the player behind the sock would have changed my mind completely, quite a shame. I still don't see any actual reasons for suspecting Hiromi yet and I will fight a lynch against her tomorrow.
There's more then enough reasons to do so, you have been wrong on everyone how about you listen for a change?
What if there are crazy mechanics in this game like the last Heist?Vince Guaraldi wrote:Hey cats, sorry I pulled a drive-by vote but I'm glad it went through. I was having horrible connection issues in my travels. I finally got signal and tried to write a post and lost signal. Next time I got signal, I just voted.
RIP Coleman. Unsocked, the behavior makes a lot more sense. Shame to lose the cop. I will also check back to see if he made any hard confirmations or seemed to suggest anything.
As to the question about how many baddies there are, Heist rules mandate 10 civvies and 3 baddies, so we're looking for a solo killer so long as this game follows the guidelines. It was made pretty clear after the last game that that is the setup for these types of games.
Sorry about that, Ornette! I was wrong to suspect you for your weird behaviour. Since my Fleck suspicion is just fake, I am down with lynching Dixon or Hiromi. I'm not sure what logic is being used to say that the nightkill choices point to Hiromi, but that could be jus' because I am not really very good at Mafia detective work.Miles Davis wrote:Miles Davis
Vince Guaraldi
Charles Mingus
John Coltrane
Chris Potter
Hiromi Uehara
Bill Dixon
Ornette Coleman
Béla Fleck
That's my rainbow list as it stands right now.
I recognize the Dixon case as a lot of what I have said before, so that's easy to agree with. Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
Not Hiromi any more?Bela Fleck wrote:Re reading the game it's between Dixon and Davis right now I'm mobile still but I can make it more later if I can
Well it's dependent on if the post restriction was due to or play or notMiles Davis wrote:Not Hiromi any more?Bela Fleck wrote:Re reading the game it's between Dixon and Davis right now I'm mobile still but I can make it more later if I can
What is Poe?Bela Fleck wrote:Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
There's a lot more to how I can figure people's roles out but if you want the full run down I can do that when I am home
Oh yeah, you mentioned you had a posting restriction. I was wondering how that happened?Bela Fleck wrote:Well it's dependent on if the post restriction was due to or play or notMiles Davis wrote:Not Hiromi any more?Bela Fleck wrote:Re reading the game it's between Dixon and Davis right now I'm mobile still but I can make it more later if I can
I didn't have a posting restriction ever. I just chose not to post.Bela Fleck wrote:Well it's dependent on if the post restriction was due to or play or notMiles Davis wrote:Not Hiromi any more?Bela Fleck wrote:Re reading the game it's between Dixon and Davis right now I'm mobile still but I can make it more later if I can
Due to the closed setup, I will make no official statement regarding this.John Coltrane wrote:@Hosts How many mafia members are there?
An unofficial one will do.Ricochet wrote:Due to the closed setup, I will make no official statement regarding this.John Coltrane wrote:@Hosts How many mafia members are there?
poe =process of elimination, as i have ALREADY SAIDHiromi Uehara wrote:What is Poe?Bela Fleck wrote:Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
There's a lot more to how I can figure people's roles out but if you want the full run down I can do that when I am home
I was saying the exact same things as Coleman. What I want to know is how you came to the conclusion that he was the cop, yet suspected me at the same time?
If hydra is the term used for these ghost accounts, we usually call them socks or sockpuppets, but I think that's the word you are looking for.Bela Fleck wrote:poe =process of elimination, as i have ALREADY SAIDHiromi Uehara wrote:What is Poe?Bela Fleck wrote:Poe is a very powerful tool. Not only that his continued "Mingus is confirmed civ" is quite telling in itslef.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Bela, how did you know that Vomps was the cop?
I apologize for not realizing it, but I will have you know that I was trying to protect the cop.
There's a lot more to how I can figure people's roles out but if you want the full run down I can do that when I am home
I was saying the exact same things as Coleman. What I want to know is how you came to the conclusion that he was the cop, yet suspected me at the same time?
anyways, its near impossible for me to expalin cus it litarly makes little to no sense, but ill try anyway. its better explained hands on by example in a hydra is that a thing on here btw?
but with the flip of a gf its says "hi theres a cop" so the next thign that comes up is to see how players are acting, know it or not, when people play pr vs civ, they tend to have a sense of "awareness" not a scum awareness of a scum team but jsut seems to react diffrently then how a civ does
not only that but i have been playing for 4 years so i have picked up on quite a few tells that come from civ vs non-civ players
On the flip side, sometimes it is nice to avoid a huge wall of text single post by splitting it up into logical sections in different posts.Chris Potter wrote:I'd also ask Fleck to try and not post thrice in a row. It's quite detrimental to those trying to actually read the whole thread and those who isolate your posts.
Eat a dick, Hiromi! jkHiromi Uehara wrote:@ the other folks, let's not criticize Bela for using acronyms that we don't know. He can't automatically know all of our terminology just from playing a game or two here. We can be a little more patient and ask what they mean, and share our own variation if possible. The beauty of having players from other mafia cultures come play here is they bring a new spice to our lives. They should not automatically have to play and act exactly as we do.
I mean, he used the acronym "PR" (which I believe is power role), and posted 3 times in a row. It's not like he told someone to eat a dick or something.
We don't have a smiley for that, probably for the greater good.Miles Davis wrote: Eat a dick, Hiromi! jk
I don't know if you were, I just felt the need to mediate if it came off that way. But based on what I've said earlier in this game, I'm probably the last person who should be telling folks not to be mean to Bela.Miles Davis wrote:I didn't feel like I was being critical or harsh at all. I was friendly and helpful... wasn't I?
It is nice, but not when each post is a one liner.Miles Davis wrote:On the flip side, sometimes it is nice to avoid a huge wall of text single post by splitting it up into logical sections in different posts.Chris Potter wrote:I'd also ask Fleck to try and not post thrice in a row. It's quite detrimental to those trying to actually read the whole thread and those who isolate your posts.
