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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:38 pm
by Akemi Homura
I forgot all about Dixon, I could get behind him being lynched as well.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:39 pm
by Akemi Homura
I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:42 pm
by November
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Coltain is cop cleared.

Its himori or Dixon

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:44 pm
by Akemi Homura
Bela Fleck wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Coltain is cop cleared.

Its himori or Dixon
Then it's Dixon. Hiromi is confirmed civ.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:46 pm
by Akemi Homura
Although I'm still inclined to lean towards the last baddie being you Mr. Fleck. I don't think that much misrepresentation and disingenuous behavior could be accidental. Either you're doing it deliberately to manipulate the direction the game is going or you're doing it deliberately to frustrate people and demand attention. I hope it's the former.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:46 pm
by November
Charles Mingus wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Coltain is cop cleared.

Its himori or Dixon
Then it's Dixon. Hiromi is confirmed civ.
hi pot I'm kettle

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:47 pm
by November
Charles Mingus wrote:Although I'm still inclined to lean towards the last baddie being you Mr. Fleck. I don't think that much misrepresentation and disingenuous behavior could be accidental. Either you're doing it deliberately to manipulate the direction the game is going or you're doing it deliberately to frustrate people and demand attention. I hope it's the former.

Well seeing how you have yet addressed one single point or made any effort to show misrepresentation, all I have to say is the pot has met kettle yet again

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:49 pm
by November
I mean I quoted a post that litarly showed you trying to stop the last scum lynch so you couldn't even argue maiden on that point if you wanted to try

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:49 pm
by Maid
Let's not forget that our deceased friend, the cop Ornette Coleman, once placed a vote on Mingus and put it back on Hiromi to try and avoid getting lynched.

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Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 pm
by The Dry Flood
Charles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
looooool, yeah lets lynch the cop cleared player, who the player cleared by silver who conveniently died that night.
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Wow This makes me not want to lynch Dixon, are you mafia man? Since I'd expect town to be more observant and not say we should Lycnh two people who could be easily mislynches, espacilly since one is cop cleared. This is a sloppy bandwagon attempt.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:34 pm
by The Dry Flood
Also how is Hirome confirmed civ? I don't recall the cop saying that?

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:49 pm
by Fuskdall
RIP Guaraldi. Should I vote for Potter? :smoky:

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:57 pm
by Maid
Voting for me this game is an worse idea than voting for Trump.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:50 pm
by Maid
Now, why did officer Coleman place a vote on Mingus? Did he know Mimgus was a baddie or was that just a wild guess?...

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:52 pm
by Maid
EBWOP: I'd like to see your reasoning for picking me today, Miles.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:22 am
by Maid
I've isolated Bill Dixon and took my time looking at the polls. Bill Dixon's got my vote tonight.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:32 am
by nutellaphant
Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:37 am
by nutellaphant
My vote is probably going to Bill Dixon or Charles Mingus today, though most likely the former of these two.

Unfortunately, looking at the interactions of dead players with all other players is next to useless.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:15 pm
by Akemi Homura
John Coltrane wrote:Also how is Hirome confirmed civ? I don't recall the cop saying that?
Charles Mingus wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Why? shes confirmed civ.

how about we push you? how come you were so adiment to save tito?
Why push me? I'm confirmed civ. Is this a running joke that I'm not in on or is everyone in this game really deluding themselves to think that their strongest town reads are more than reads and that in fact that they know...for a fact, that the people they think are town are actually the people that they know are town, and that everyone else knows this as well, or at least they should. What am I missing? Because every time since the start of the game someone has referred to someone else as a "confirmed civ" I've failed to see the basis for such a bold claim or if it's just humorous then I'm missing the humor.

Billie Holiday is not a confirmed civ. There are no confirmed civs. Get over it.
Get it? It's a joke. Because there are no confirmed civs.


Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
Wow Hiromi, just wow. If you were paying any attention at all you would know that it's not exactly sudden.
Charles Mingus wrote:So Coltrane is voting for Hiromi because he doesn't believe in WIFOM, Coleman is voting for Hiromi to save his ass, and Fleck is voting for Hiromi because he wouldn't dare vote for the same player I'm voting for. What a sorry excuse for a counterwagon.
Charles Mingus wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:So Coltrane is voting for Hiromi because he doesn't believe in WIFOM, Coleman is voting for Hiromi to save his ass, and Fleck is voting for Hiromi because he wouldn't dare vote for the same player I'm voting for. What a sorry excuse for a counterwagon.
Or maybe cus of POE that has been stated, and you complain abotu misrepresenttion
Wrong again, you don't even suspect Hiromi. If you did then you would've given a reason why you do by now.
Charles Mingus wrote:This is one instance where knowing the player behind the sock would have changed my mind completely, quite a shame. I still don't see any actual reasons for suspecting Hiromi yet and I will fight a lynch against her tomorrow.
Charles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
Charles Mingus wrote:
Bela Fleck wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
Or himori is just scum removing suspects? I mean occam razor is simpler to use
RIght, because HIromi being scum is the option with the fewest assumptions.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:15 pm
by nutellaphant
Charles Mingus wrote:
Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
Wow Hiromi, just wow. If you were paying any attention at all you would know that it's not exactly sudden.
Perhaps it isn't sudden.

I'm still having trouble finding the answer to the "why" part though. You have defended me, but the defenses have more to do with the other players' actions, and less to do with my behavior. I'm not saying it's completely illegitimate, but does it have anything to do with what I've done?

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:41 pm
by Akemi Homura
:wall:

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:41 pm
by Akemi Homura
It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:48 pm
by The Dry Flood
If you look at the posts of our cop, then yeah you can puzzle out who might be a confirmed civ.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:54 pm
by Akemi Homura
John Coltrane wrote:If you look at the posts of our cop, then yeah you can puzzle out who might be a confirmed civ.
We don't know who the cop is, and like I said, everyone has been throwing around the term "confirmed civ" like the word "confirmed" means "in my personal opinion" to them. And no, I don't think you're the cop.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:11 pm
by Maid
Mingus, Coleman was the cop.

Re: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:23 pm
by November
Ricochet wrote: Ornette Coleman - [ Posts ] - LYNCHED Day 3: 'Jazz', Civilian cop
Hey mingus, whos not paying attention now

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:24 pm
by Akemi Homura
Chris Potter wrote:Mingus, Coleman was the cop.
No, Vompatti was the cop.

Re: Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:24 pm
by Akemi Homura
Bela Fleck wrote:
Ricochet wrote: Ornette Coleman - [ Posts ] - LYNCHED Day 3: 'Jazz', Civilian cop
Hey mingus, whos not paying attention now
(the point)




































(your head)

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:27 pm
by Maid
There must be a very good reason why Vompatti placed a vote on you, Mingus. He chose not to lynch anyone on day 1. Did he check you? That's what I ask myself. Perhaps you're the baddie after all.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:29 pm
by Akemi Homura
Chris Potter wrote:There must be a very good reason why Vompatti placed a vote on you, Mingus. He chose not to lynch anyone on day 1. Did he check you? That's what I ask myself. Perhaps you're the baddie after all.
Ornette Coleman wrote:Mingus is a confirmed civ.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:29 pm
by nutellaphant
Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:31 pm
by nutellaphant
Actually, never mind, I don't want to ask that question anymore.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:31 pm
by Akemi Homura
Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?
We knew who the cop was the first time you asked. :confused2:

And I already gave you my answer here:
Charles Mingus wrote:It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:32 pm
by nutellaphant
My vote is going on Bill Dixon at least until he comes in and posts today.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:33 pm
by nutellaphant
Charles Mingus wrote:
Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?
We knew who the cop was the first time you asked. :confused2:

And I already gave you my answer here:
Charles Mingus wrote:It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.
I was pushing and testing you in case you were attempting to claim another power role or what.

But I forgot that vompatti had cleared you, so I don't think it matters either way.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:35 pm
by Akemi Homura
Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:38 pm
by nutellaphant
Charles Mingus wrote:Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
I think that just means he didn't feel comfortable with lynching me. I don't think this post has much to do with you or Coltrane.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:41 pm
by Akemi Homura
Hiromi Uehara wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
I think that just means he didn't feel comfortable with lynching me. I don't think this post has much to do with you or Coltrane.
My point is that nothing the "cop" said can be taken at face value. We shouldn't blindly accept any statement that Coleman made, because Coleman is Vompatti and his methods often have ulterior motives. I think the cop wanted us to question things, even himself.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:42 pm
by Akemi Homura
I think that's supported by his frequent unexplained vote changes, more than once voting for himself.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:46 pm
by November
Or we can jsu accpt those are his to clears and move on like i knew after his flip

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:47 pm
by Akemi Homura
Bela Fleck wrote:Or we can jsu accpt those are his to clears and move on like i knew after his flip
Sure, we could. But by accepting that we would also have to accept a lot of contradictory behavior in Coleman's ISO, which wouldn't be wise.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:49 pm
by Akemi Homura
You know what's funny?

What's funny is that you claim to have thought that Coleman was the cop before the flip, partly because he said at one point that I was confirmed civ, yet at the time he said that, you were still advocating that I was a baddie.

Re: [Rest / Night 2] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:53 pm
by Akemi Homura
Ornette Coleman wrote:Mingus is a confirmed civ.
About two and a half hours later...
Bela Fleck wrote:So its between mingus/hiromi like silver said.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:54 pm
by Akemi Homura
Haha oh look a silent vote for Dixon.

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:57 pm
by November
Charles Mingus wrote:You know what's funny?

What's funny is that you claim to have thought that Coleman was the cop before the flip, partly because he said at one point that I was confirmed civ, yet at the time he said that, you were still advocating that I was a baddie.
i know i was, i did it intetionaly, like i said, POE wins out every time

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:58 pm
by November
Plus epi, you used a lot fo meta here for someone who says they dont use it

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:00 pm
by Akemi Homura
But of course I shouldn't single out Fleck for doing essentially the same thing Coltrane did more recently.
John Coltrane wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Wow This makes me not want to lynch Dixon, are you mafia man? Since I'd expect town to be more observant and not say we should Lycnh two people who could be easily mislynches, espacilly since one is cop cleared. This is a sloppy bandwagon attempt.
John Coltrane wrote:If you look at the posts of our cop, then yeah you can puzzle out who might be a confirmed civ.
:haha:

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:00 pm
by November
Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Hye look mingus did the same thing!

isnt it funny how the pot and kettle ar eblack

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:01 pm
by Akemi Homura
Bela Fleck wrote:
Charles Mingus wrote:You know what's funny?

What's funny is that you claim to have thought that Coleman was the cop before the flip, partly because he said at one point that I was confirmed civ, yet at the time he said that, you were still advocating that I was a baddie.
i know i was, i did it intetionaly, like i said, POE wins out every time
What does either lying about reading me as bad or lying about thinking Coleman was the cop have to do with process of elimination?

Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia

Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:02 pm
by Akemi Homura
Bela Fleck wrote:Plus epi, you used a lot fo meta here for someone who says they dont use it
Please stop using non-sock account names to refer to players that aren't dead yet.