Re: [Take / Day 4] Esbjörn Svensson Trio Mafia
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:38 pm
I forgot all about Dixon, I could get behind him being lynched as well.
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Coltain is cop cleared.Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Then it's Dixon. Hiromi is confirmed civ.Bela Fleck wrote:Coltain is cop cleared.Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Its himori or Dixon
hi pot I'm kettleCharles Mingus wrote:Then it's Dixon. Hiromi is confirmed civ.Bela Fleck wrote:Coltain is cop cleared.Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
Its himori or Dixon
Charles Mingus wrote:Although I'm still inclined to lean towards the last baddie being you Mr. Fleck. I don't think that much misrepresentation and disingenuous behavior could be accidental. Either you're doing it deliberately to manipulate the direction the game is going or you're doing it deliberately to frustrate people and demand attention. I hope it's the former.
looooool, yeah lets lynch the cop cleared player, who the player cleared by silver who conveniently died that night.Charles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
Wow This makes me not want to lynch Dixon, are you mafia man? Since I'd expect town to be more observant and not say we should Lycnh two people who could be easily mislynches, espacilly since one is cop cleared. This is a sloppy bandwagon attempt.Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
John Coltrane wrote:Also how is Hirome confirmed civ? I don't recall the cop saying that?
Get it? It's a joke. Because there are no confirmed civs.Charles Mingus wrote:Why push me? I'm confirmed civ. Is this a running joke that I'm not in on or is everyone in this game really deluding themselves to think that their strongest town reads are more than reads and that in fact that they know...for a fact, that the people they think are town are actually the people that they know are town, and that everyone else knows this as well, or at least they should. What am I missing? Because every time since the start of the game someone has referred to someone else as a "confirmed civ" I've failed to see the basis for such a bold claim or if it's just humorous then I'm missing the humor.Bela Fleck wrote:
Why? shes confirmed civ.
how about we push you? how come you were so adiment to save tito?
Billie Holiday is not a confirmed civ. There are no confirmed civs. Get over it.
Wow Hiromi, just wow. If you were paying any attention at all you would know that it's not exactly sudden.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
Charles Mingus wrote:So Coltrane is voting for Hiromi because he doesn't believe in WIFOM, Coleman is voting for Hiromi to save his ass, and Fleck is voting for Hiromi because he wouldn't dare vote for the same player I'm voting for. What a sorry excuse for a counterwagon.
Charles Mingus wrote:Wrong again, you don't even suspect Hiromi. If you did then you would've given a reason why you do by now.Bela Fleck wrote:Or maybe cus of POE that has been stated, and you complain abotu misrepresenttionCharles Mingus wrote:So Coltrane is voting for Hiromi because he doesn't believe in WIFOM, Coleman is voting for Hiromi to save his ass, and Fleck is voting for Hiromi because he wouldn't dare vote for the same player I'm voting for. What a sorry excuse for a counterwagon.
Charles Mingus wrote:This is one instance where knowing the player behind the sock would have changed my mind completely, quite a shame. I still don't see any actual reasons for suspecting Hiromi yet and I will fight a lynch against her tomorrow.
Charles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
Charles Mingus wrote:RIght, because HIromi being scum is the option with the fewest assumptions.Bela Fleck wrote:Or himori is just scum removing suspects? I mean occam razor is simpler to useCharles Mingus wrote:I think it's more likely that whoever killed Vince was doing so in an attempt to make Hiromi an easy mislynch for today. I'm putting my money on John Coltrane being the last baddie since I don't think the development of his opinions over the course of the game feels natural, both the ones I agree and disagree with. But it could also be Fleck still.
Perhaps it isn't sudden.Charles Mingus wrote:Wow Hiromi, just wow. If you were paying any attention at all you would know that it's not exactly sudden.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, why the sudden faith in my civvieness?
We don't know who the cop is, and like I said, everyone has been throwing around the term "confirmed civ" like the word "confirmed" means "in my personal opinion" to them. And no, I don't think you're the cop.John Coltrane wrote:If you look at the posts of our cop, then yeah you can puzzle out who might be a confirmed civ.
Hey mingus, whos not paying attention now
No, Vompatti was the cop.Chris Potter wrote:Mingus, Coleman was the cop.
(the point)Bela Fleck wrote:Hey mingus, whos not paying attention now
Chris Potter wrote:There must be a very good reason why Vompatti placed a vote on you, Mingus. He chose not to lynch anyone on day 1. Did he check you? That's what I ask myself. Perhaps you're the baddie after all.
Ornette Coleman wrote:Mingus is a confirmed civ.
We knew who the cop was the first time you asked.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?
Charles Mingus wrote:It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.
I was pushing and testing you in case you were attempting to claim another power role or what.Charles Mingus wrote:We knew who the cop was the first time you asked.Hiromi Uehara wrote:Mingus, I'll ask again now that we know who the cop is. Why are you still convinced I am a civilian?
And I already gave you my answer here:
Charles Mingus wrote:It's what you haven't done, and that is to ping me. The fact that you haven't said or done anything that I find suspicious combined with the baffling amount of heat you've been getting that has all been based on little to no legitimate reasoning makes me think that the last baddie is trying to get you mislynched.
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
I think that just means he didn't feel comfortable with lynching me. I don't think this post has much to do with you or Coltrane.Charles Mingus wrote:Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
My point is that nothing the "cop" said can be taken at face value. We shouldn't blindly accept any statement that Coleman made, because Coleman is Vompatti and his methods often have ulterior motives. I think the cop wanted us to question things, even himself.Hiromi Uehara wrote:I think that just means he didn't feel comfortable with lynching me. I don't think this post has much to do with you or Coltrane.Charles Mingus wrote:Vompatti didn't clear me lol, just like he didn't clear Coltrane. Are we forgetting that our cop said this:
Ornette Coleman wrote:To be honest I would be voting for no lynch if I didn't have four votes on myself. Hiromi is a possible baddie, but not a confirmed one. I think it would be wise if we all thought this through and voted for no lynch. Remember, a mislynch is no less likely than the baddies accidentally killing one of their own during the night phase!
Sure, we could. But by accepting that we would also have to accept a lot of contradictory behavior in Coleman's ISO, which wouldn't be wise.Bela Fleck wrote:Or we can jsu accpt those are his to clears and move on like i knew after his flip
About two and a half hours later...Ornette Coleman wrote:Mingus is a confirmed civ.
Bela Fleck wrote:So its between mingus/hiromi like silver said.
i know i was, i did it intetionaly, like i said, POE wins out every timeCharles Mingus wrote:You know what's funny?
What's funny is that you claim to have thought that Coleman was the cop before the flip, partly because he said at one point that I was confirmed civ, yet at the time he said that, you were still advocating that I was a baddie.
John Coltrane wrote:Wow This makes me not want to lynch Dixon, are you mafia man? Since I'd expect town to be more observant and not say we should Lycnh two people who could be easily mislynches, espacilly since one is cop cleared. This is a sloppy bandwagon attempt.Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
John Coltrane wrote:If you look at the posts of our cop, then yeah you can puzzle out who might be a confirmed civ.
Hye look mingus did the same thing!Charles Mingus wrote:I will oppose any lynch that isn't Coltrane, Dixon, or Fleck.
What does either lying about reading me as bad or lying about thinking Coleman was the cop have to do with process of elimination?Bela Fleck wrote:i know i was, i did it intetionaly, like i said, POE wins out every timeCharles Mingus wrote:You know what's funny?
What's funny is that you claim to have thought that Coleman was the cop before the flip, partly because he said at one point that I was confirmed civ, yet at the time he said that, you were still advocating that I was a baddie.
Please stop using non-sock account names to refer to players that aren't dead yet.Bela Fleck wrote:Plus epi, you used a lot fo meta here for someone who says they dont use it